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SOE spins again!

Bob_BlawblawBob_Blawblaw Member Posts: 1,278
in Star Wars Galaxies

http://mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/874

Sorry if this has been posted already. SOE spin at it's finest.

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  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143

    Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

    http://mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/874
    Sorry if this has been posted already. SOE spin at it's finest.


    Lol I don't call that spin I call that saying a whole lot of nothing while denying everything.

    I like this one *People like the expertise"  -- Well crap, sure they do for 9 months they had nothing and no diversity.. pat yourself on the back for being this stupid before not adding it prior to launch....

    Spin is far from what they can do now.. it's more like low crawl..

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • Bob_BlawblawBob_Blawblaw Member Posts: 1,278
    You're right. It's nothing more than a feeble attempt at damage control over the gamasutra article.
  • WyethWyeth Member Posts: 51

    Sounds like Obraik wrote it.  Just kidding man.

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  • TacolaTacola Member CommonPosts: 263
    Well , hmm sounds like they are going to unplug the game, no wait, sounds like it is doing pretty good!! 
  • KenshuAniKenshuAni Member CommonPosts: 851


    “In late winter through early spring, SWG was one of SOE's biggest gainers in terms of new players to a live game, coming through both the trials and through new software purchases,” said Chris Kramer, Director of Corporate Communications.

  • ReachwindReachwind Member Posts: 275
    You note they avoided saying things like "We have more users now" or
    "We have more subscribers than we did before we made changes."


    Look at this statement;


    “In late winter through early spring, SWG was one of SOE's biggest
    gainers in terms of new players to a live game, coming through both the
    trials and through new software purchases,” said Chris Kramer, Director
    of Corporate Communications.

    You'll note he didn't say it was the biggest. Nor did he say all year long. Late winter through early spring... So a couple of months around Christmas. With SWG being SOE's second or third biggest title. I guess that statement could be absolutely true.


    Former SWG beta tester and player

  • TrueRivalryTrueRivalry Member Posts: 2
    The expertise system is a fix to a screw up of the NGE.  After the NGE came live, every person in game was about the same.  Even jedi was attainable now instead of doing the FS quests.  SOE screwed me on that.  Back to topic, even now only Jedi and BH have the expertise system.  Therefore, during PVP jedi and BH have the upper hand.  The expertise is almost like having diversity like it was during the CU and Pre-CU.  SOE is just shooting this once great game down.
  • TrueRivalryTrueRivalry Member Posts: 2
    But how many left compared to the new people coming?
  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143

    Originally posted by Reachwind
    You note they avoided saying things like "We have more users now" or "We have more subscribers than we did before we made changes."

    Look at this statement;

    “In late winter through early spring, SWG was one of SOE's biggest gainers in terms of new players to a live game, coming through both the trials and through new software purchases,” said Chris Kramer, Director of Corporate Communications.

    You'll note he didn't say it was the biggest. Nor did he say all year long. Late winter through early spring... So a couple of months around Christmas. With SWG being SOE's second or third biggest title. I guess that statement could be absolutely true.


    lol.. it is funny to read this though.

    They say this, after the execs say "Don't make our mistake"...lol  you have to love that.

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • Bob_BlawblawBob_Blawblaw Member Posts: 1,278

    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by Reachwind
    You note they avoided saying things like "We have more users now" or "We have more subscribers than we did before we made changes."

    Look at this statement;

    “In late winter through early spring, SWG was one of SOE's biggest gainers in terms of new players to a live game, coming through both the trials and through new software purchases,” said Chris Kramer, Director of Corporate Communications.

    You'll note he didn't say it was the biggest. Nor did he say all year long. Late winter through early spring... So a couple of months around Christmas. With SWG being SOE's second or third biggest title. I guess that statement could be absolutely true.


    lol.. it is funny to read this though.

    They say this, after the execs say "Don't make our mistake"...lol  you have to love that.

    Why would they call it a mistake if they are doing very well. Do they really think people are that stupid as to swallow that crap?
  • KenshuAniKenshuAni Member CommonPosts: 851

    Originally posted by TrueRivalry
    But how many left compared to the new people coming?
    And how many of the new people stayed?
  • ReachwindReachwind Member Posts: 275

    Originally posted by Bob_BlawblawWhy would they call it a mistake if they are doing very well. Do they really think people are that stupid as to swallow that crap?
    Well... They never actually say the game is doing well now do they? They just say it was among their top titles and getting positive feedback from some of its users. We see some of that feedback here if you think about it. There are at least two or three people that are quite sure they like the NGE that post here alone.

    Former SWG beta tester and player

  • YeeboYeebo Member UncommonPosts: 1,361

    Originally posted by Reachwind
    You note they avoided saying things like "We have more users now" or
    "We have more subscribers than we did before we made changes."


    Look at this statement;


    “In late winter through early spring, SWG was one of SOE's biggest
    gainers in terms of new players to a live game, coming through both the
    trials and through new software purchases,” said Chris Kramer, Director
    of Corporate Communications.

    You'll note he didn't say it was the biggest. Nor did he say all year long. Late winter through early spring... So a couple of months around Christmas. With SWG being SOE's second or third biggest title. I guess that statement could be absolutely true.



    Aha, I think you nailed it.  That guy should go into politics.

    I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183


    Why are you people being so hard on MMOrpg.com ? A few regular posters here should re-examine your statements/comments sometimes . How is it hard to believe what was said there ? The game has Star Wars in it's title . That all but assures People will try it out . Secondly Sci-fi fans have very few games to pick from in the MMO genre , You really think it is odd a lot of people try SWG out ? Or pick it up for 20$ when they see it on a shelf  ?


    Trials and Box purchases do not a subscriber make , you would not see a lot of these people ever on a live server . They simply didn't continue after their first taste of the game , This is very common with MMO's .








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  • JestorRodoJestorRodo Member UncommonPosts: 2,642
    What a crock and and they are spreading it on thick!

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  • Bob_BlawblawBob_Blawblaw Member Posts: 1,278

    Originally posted by JestorRodo
    What a crock and and they are spreading it on thick!
    Here's a thickly spreaded crock for your birthday JR.
  • JestorRodoJestorRodo Member UncommonPosts: 2,642
    Love that Jestor ! /blowoutcandles  Thanks

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  • grinreapergrinreaper Member Posts: 507
    It was in the top six, narrowly defeating Tunaras and emails to Smed

  • War_DancerWar_Dancer Member Posts: 941

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo


    Why are you people being so hard on MMOrpg.com ?






    Hard on mmorpg.com itself or that the posters here tend to be hard? Cause if you mean againts mmorpg.com I saw nonone give out about them and if you actuelly mean Krammer probably because nothing even vaguely worthwhile came out of his mouth. All that talking and nothing was said.
  • Concord7Concord7 Member Posts: 125

    Originally posted by KenshuAni

    Originally posted by TrueRivalry
    But how many left compared to the new people coming?
    And how many of the new people stayed?
    WINNERS - SOE is just starting early on the XMAS hype of the SWG Complete Fleece. It would not surprise me if there are some new posters btw now and the release hyping the game as well. Guerilla Marketing FTW
  • KzinKillerKzinKiller Member Posts: 625
    "Director
    of Corporate Communications" ... a/k/a "Professional Liar"

    It's a little disappointing that MMORPG publishes this kind of unchallenged fabrication, but I guess you have to keep advertisers happy.  But this is pure Baghdad Bob B.S., same as ever from the SWG corporate flunkies.


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  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143

    Originally posted by grinreaper
    It was in the top six, narrowly defeating Tunaras and emails to Smed


    Smedley has my props for the day.

    He did not leave me out to dry...also he took a pretty big hit for me so he is at least trying to be decent again about things.

    I hated his choice.. but at least he did tell it like it is today.

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143

    Originally posted by KzinKiller
    "Director of Corporate Communications" ... a/k/a "Professional Liar"

    It's a little disappointing that MMORPG publishes this kind of unchallenged fabrication, but I guess you have to keep advertisers happy.  But this is pure Baghdad Bob B.S., same as ever from the SWG corporate flunkies.

    Take a look at Smeds emails today on the other thread-- they are legit and somewhat good to see.

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • KzinKillerKzinKiller Member Posts: 625

    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by KzinKiller
    "Director of Corporate Communications" ... a/k/a "Professional Liar"

    It's a little disappointing that MMORPG publishes this kind of unchallenged fabrication, but I guess you have to keep advertisers happy.  But this is pure Baghdad Bob B.S., same as ever from the SWG corporate flunkies.

    Take a look at Smeds emails today on the other thread-- they are legit and somewhat good to see.



    No idea what thread you mean, sorry, busy day at the office today.

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  • KenshuAniKenshuAni Member CommonPosts: 851

    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by KzinKiller
    "Director of Corporate Communications" ... a/k/a "Professional Liar"

    It's a little disappointing that MMORPG publishes this kind of unchallenged fabrication, but I guess you have to keep advertisers happy.  But this is pure Baghdad Bob B.S., same as ever from the SWG corporate flunkies.

    Take a look at Smeds emails today on the other thread-- they are legit and somewhat good to see.


    Other thread?
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