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Shayde - SOE announcement?
royalpenalty
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so, Shayde mentioned that in a reply email from the Smedster there would be a big announcement this week?
today is Friday?.........any word?
SWG ADDICT...clean since the NGE
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But I think you're confusing my posts with someone else's. I said that I had an anonymous e-mail that said that there's a big announcement coming "soon". I didn't believe it since it really said nothing else, nor did it come from a known source.
Smed's been ignoring my e-mails. Isk got those.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Chapter 3 hits test center. Smugglers actually smuggle? that is a BIG announcement for soe.
Chapter 3 hits test center. Smugglers actually smuggle? that is a BIG announcement for soe.
It's a sign of the apocalypse.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Chapter 3 hits test center. Smugglers actually smuggle? that is a BIG announcement for soe.
It's a sign of the apocalypse.
Actually its a sign that "we" the disgruntled former players and lack of subscribers is actually motivating soe to move this game in a direction "we" want. Auto-aim, smuggling, no new expansions, expertise, decay, crafter revamp. Alot of what "we" want done is getting added. If we keep holding out instead of being weak sissies and going back we just might get pre-cu.
Chapter 3 hits test center. Smugglers actually smuggle? that is a BIG announcement for soe.
It's a sign of the apocalypse.
Actually its a sign that "we" the disgruntled former players and lack of subscribers is actually motivating soe to move this game in a direction "we" want. Auto-aim, smuggling, no new expansions, expertise, decay, crafter revamp. Alot of what "we" want done is getting added. If we keep holding out instead of being weak sissies and going back we just might get pre-cu.
/agree, also heard player bases and customizable UI were coming back. the devs are starting to crack, now if we could jsut get all the professions back lmao.
SWG ADDICT...clean since the NGE
Im thinking this one is on its Final leg and were all in a line to kick the other one out from under it
Destroy and Distruction is what im saying down with SWG
Poor Poor Game
Heres the big announcement.
John Smedley September 15, 2006
Weve officially adressed a critical flaw in game and like to announce it.
You can no longer in game ask another player there age!!!
With this new enhancement no one can ask each other there age. We believe this new enhancement will bring 5 million new subscribers and bankrupt WOW.
there ya go theres the big anouncement lol
We're sitting in our offices thinking of ways to upset our paying customers. I think were on track to meet that goal.
John Smedley
That sucks, we have actually discussed other things that I will NOT post due to the nature but he is a good father and does have a love for the industry. He knows the difference between anger and frustration too I think now more so.
I tell ya what, after him not leaving me to hang out to dry I have to say I have more of a respect for him coming right out and calling the NGE what it is for what it is. Also replying to people that assumed I was lying.
I mean if you think about it, that is not to shabby of him to do so. IT DOES not change how I feel he was wrong, but for him to just flat out say he was then follow it up by calling it as such does say somthing.
I do know that they cannot at all make classic servers now without alot of work and effort. I do not even think it is a wise business concept now.
The engine is over 6 years old, the game is not doing well and bottom line there is better stuff coming.
We all wish this went down different, but it didn't. Most people have the sense to know when somthing is not going well or is. I have to think some of the execs do as well. Some of us tried hard to stop this, we advised we were honest and we were serious.
At least we tried in the end.
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I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
That sucks, we have actually discussed other things that I will NOT post due to the nature but he is a good father and does have a love for the industry. He knows the difference between anger and frustration too I think now more so.
I tell ya what, after him not leaving me to hang out to dry I have to say I have more of a respect for him coming right out and calling the NGE what it is for what it is. Also replying to people that assumed I was lying.
I mean if you think about it, that is not to shabby of him to do so. IT DOES not change how I feel he was wrong, but for him to just flat out say he was then follow it up by calling it as such does say somthing.
I do know that they cannot at all make classic servers now without alot of work and effort. I do not even think it is a wise business concept now.
The engine is over 6 years old, the game is not doing well and bottom line there is better stuff coming.
We all wish this went down different, but it didn't. Most people have the sense to know when somthing is not going well or is. I have to think some of the execs do as well. Some of us tried hard to stop this, we advised we were honest and we were serious.
At least we tried in the end.
So that's it then? The bottom line seems to be, we tried and if we fail, we fail... there is no going back. Other games will be released, but nothing like pre-CU, probably not even Star Wars, but the failures of the NGE will simply stand on their own?
Why in the hell is it nobody in this industry has the balls to stand up and do it right?! I know, it's a rhetorical question... risk isn't equal to the reward. That's patently ridiculous. Everyone's looking for the grand slam, forget the home run anymore. My message to the MMO industry is INNOVATE, AND THEY WILL COME. It's a tired message, which is sad to say, because it should be the mantra by which games are developed!!
I broke my own rule by not offering a viable solution and just bitching... but it felt good to write. So bleah!
There's a sucker born every minute. - P.T. Barnum
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
We know they got the backups and the hardware. It just takes a man with a pair.
Hauken Stormchaser
I want pre-CU back
Station.com : We got your game
Yeah?, Well i want it back!!!
Nasedoo: You said traders would get a revamp under my supervision.
Darth Lord Blixtev: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
I find it amazing that a company running a server farm of this size does NOT keep backup code stashed someplace or even archived. Every company I have ever worked for in the IT field keeps backups, some for several years. I worked for Kaiser for awhile doing hardware support and such and we had backups from 2 years prior specifically for proprietary software in case it was ever needed.
Granted, I don't know how SoE's farm is set up or how they maintain their client database structure but it seems odd to me. Especially since they kept my character and game data archived from EQ and that game is far older than SoE. They managed to find my old character and all my details related to it when I foolishly thought to start that mess up again and I hadn't played the game in over a year and a half. Maybe this is a tad different and I am willing to accept that but seems odd to have one kind of database backed up and not the other.
Nasedoo: You said traders would get a revamp under my supervision.
Darth Lord Blixtev: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
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Just in case someone from SOE is reading this... I'll give them one of the more popular theories on why they cannot do classic servers.
All of the talented developers have long since jumped ship from SOE.
Although, it could be due to things like licensing from LA preventing classic servers. But that response isn't as much fun and vindictive as the other
Iskareot wrote:
I do know that they cannot at all make classic servers now without alot of work and effort. I do not even think it is a wise business concept now. Even though so many people would re-sub in order to play that old game? How is that not a wise business decision?
The engine is over 6 years old, the game is not doing well and bottom line there is better stuff coming. Looking at Raph Koster's charts from AGC, Galaxies is fourth in subscriptions numbers after WOW and the EQs. I wouldn't have thought it could be doing that well, but if so, then it seems like a viable game. What is involved in updating the database and converting the game engine to a newer model? Do game companies typically upgrade at some point or do they all run with the original engine?
We all wish this went down different, but it didn't. Most people have the sense to know when somthing is not going well or is. I have to think some of the execs do as well. Some of us tried hard to stop this, we advised we were honest and we were serious.
At least we tried in the end. You also mention new things that are better coming out. From SOE? Other companies? DC Comics Online I don't think has the same potential audience as Galaxies. Vanguard may draw alot. I'm not seeing anything else from SOE that will appeal to displaced SWG fans. What things do you see coming out, Isk, that have a potential to appeal to the hardcore Galaxies player?
Nasedoo: You said traders would get a revamp under my supervision.
Darth Lord Blixtev: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
Althea stated :
You also mention new things that are better coming out. From SOE? Other companies? DC Comics Online I don't think has the same potential audience as Galaxies. Vanguard may draw alot. I'm not seeing anything else from SOE that will appeal to displaced SWG fans. What things do you see coming out, Isk, that have a potential to appeal to the hardcore Galaxies player?
I totaly agree with Althea's statement, the only thing up and coming is the same ole same ole level based quest games with just different skins.
There is nada on even the distant Horizon for the skill based system again. Considering the development costs of such I seriously doubt we will see one as involved or diversified as swg Once was.
For those that enjpyed the crafting side the entertainer from long ago or the social side there is nothing to even remotely satisfy those i wants in up and comming games.
I dare say swg did do something different, they brought alot of folks that never ever played mmorpgs before only to change music mid stream and now those players may never look at another mmorpg again knowing what they know now
As it states on every mmorpg box "Game Experaince May Change"
No no by all means they have it... we all know this I mean really -- they have drive images, I know better.
But code is like writing your own lingp -- It is in certain context and made a certain way and sometimes different for each coder.
They are gone, 90% of the old team is just gone, crap Koster is gone..lol The only people that could fix or get stable the older images would be them, not only that the time and cost factor would just be hard to sell as a investment of time. It just would.
It's to old now, I mean think about it... do you spend the 1 year it takes now to get a engine going (NEW ONE) the way you need it then code the game for a year (as it takes now give or take) -- Or do you just start over using the info and ideas you had from before that worked?
Just as a business investment I think it is to late. I think that not only would it just cause issues, but man.. imagine what the player base would do? Abort the NGE in 10fold, making things even worse then what they are. I see it now as nothing but a dissaster.
At this point using common sense, the only real option I see is to start over, learn from the mistake of the NGE and stear 100000 miles from that type of game. Skill based, complex, diverse games can work they just need to know that first and go from there.
I tell ya, after having some dialog with Mr. Smedley and realizing how long it's been since beta 2-- I know this is done. It has no future in it's current state and people that play even say "DO YOU THINK WE LIKE THE NGE??" ---- I mean how sad is that? People play the NGE while knowing they hated what it is about and did?
I mean this community is so fucked up from this mess it's not even funny. We argue on how much or who hates the NGE more then each other..lol how wrong is that??
I have learned alot over this last 4.5 years from beta 2 until now, I learned that money and business marketing can ruin a game, I learned that people accept things because of franchise names and alot of HOPE. I learned that people will argue over failure and what level it is at even though failure is failure. I learned that no matter how bad or hard we want somthing as a playerbase we cannot beat the deep pockets of corporation.
On the flip side, I did learn that even a president of that company may have the balls to admit, He messed up and seem to mean it.
I am to the point of just hoping to see this one go away and a new one fill it's place. This one is just to screwed up to make it.
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I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1