Originally posted by daeandorWe're not arguing about every single theory. I'm here about the movie. The movie is not about or like Loose Change because it isn't about the theories regarding the physical aspects....yes it does mention them in the beginning but in a context that you must watch the movie to understand. The movie is about how the government did a crap job with the handling of post-9/11....Christ if you watched the movie then you wouldn't have to post this off topic BS.
No, I don't need to watch it. Fine, just don't post in this thread then. You have nothing to add that is constructive. It is the same story time and again. How do you know? You don't. I told you this is a very different film. You must not be a quitter like enigma or else you won't understand the film's context. I was not talking about loose change. I was talking about your information being based on convenient internet theory and the fact that you changed from trying to argue points to being an a-hole about it. Honzolo just "/yawned" so that wasn't being an a-hole? Enigma thinks that he can conclude the film after watching 30 minutes of it. Is that not being an a-hole? Lardmouth puts up a bunch of little child photos that is supposed to be condescending to my intelligence. Is that not being an a-hole?
Sorry but the movement is constantly attacked and has been attacked by people on here by calling me a grave stomper and disgraceful....ect. Every name in the book. BTW, just because someone is witholding information does not equal covering up. In this case it does. Videos, and recordings and complete recordings could be released. Like I have told you before many times, I do not know who poisoned your mind in your youth, but you have not learned much about true logic in life. If A, then B, is not an argument. It is a fallacy. Your posts don't need to be taken in context with
some lame video that compiles a nice list of errors, problems, whatnot, and only their corroborating evidence. You don't have to watch it but don't bash it....that's false logic for sure. The day I see you post a video or quote / link that looks at ALL possibilities and supporting evidence, then maybe, just maybe, I will get off your back when it comes to this.
______________________________ "When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!" -cheer leading, flag waving American
Originally posted by Draenor Originally posted by AlexAmore Originally posted by Draenor Didn't watch it...don't need to. If that origional poster is likening it to fahrenheit 911, well that's reason enough for me to pass.
Pffft. If you read my post I said it wasn't like fahrenheit at all. It's not a right vs left movie. I've seen both movies.
You all have to understand that just because someone is conservative/Republican doesn't make them God where they can't do anything bad. This film doesn't attack conservative/Republican beliefs at all. Same goes for Liberals. Clinton did some pretty horrible things. If some films came out showing all of Clintons horrible acts then I would come right on and post it for all to see.
How did you disern that as my meaning from my post? Evel Kenievel couldn't have made that leap........ You said if the film is like fahrenheit 911 then you will not watch it. That movie is KNOWN for having a liberal bias, because of Michael Moore. It wasn't much of a stretch to think you're the opposite of Moore.
I'm not a republican.
btw, you conspiracy theory people really need to stop...maybe the government is witholding sensative information because they have a reason to do so? Yeah some videos of the Pentagon is real sensitive for sure...... Not everything that Bush does is done with malicious intent, no matter how much you like to think that it is. I am far from being a Bush fanboy, but you people who challenge every single god damn thing that the man does; you are sad. Anything to get a republican out of office right? No matter how petty, no matter how insignificant, you NEED to challenge Bush, because if you don't, then the American people won't hate the man and you won't get your diefied democrats into office. I don't like democrats either. This isn't about right vs left. If a conservative kills someone and I turn that conservative in then does that make me a liberal?
Once again, I'm not a republican, you people are just disgusting. Watch the damn movie.
______________________________ "When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!" -cheer leading, flag waving American
There is zero evidence that Bin Laden was employed by the CIA....This is the kind of claim that makes me not waste time on this video. Zero evidence, Alex. If you have it, please begin to cite HARD evidence. Don't even bother posting "anonymous ex CIA agent said...." Anything like that will be ignored. Please post verifiable documents, etc. Let me head you off first. Pre-empitve strike, if you will. The CIA funneled resources to the afghanis to throw out the russians. Foriegn figures and their groups, such as Bin Laden, recieved their funds from other sources.
Page 59, Al Qaeda: The true story of radical Islam Jason Burkes
"It is often said that bin Ladin was funded by the CIA. This is not true, and indeed it would have been impossible given the structure of funding that General Zia ul-Haq, who had taken power in Pakistan in 1977, had set up. A condition of Zia's cooperation with the American plan to turn Afghanistan into the Soviet's 'Vietnam' was that all American funding to the Afghan resistance had to be channeled through the Pakistani government, which effectively meant the Afghan bureau of the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), the military spy agency.
The American funding, which went exclusively to the Afghan mujahideen groups, not the Arab volunteers [bin Ladin's groups], was supplemented by Saudi government money and huge funds raised from mosques, non-governmental charitable institutions and private donors throughout the Islamic world. Most of the major Gulf-based charities operating today were founded at this time to raise money or channel government funds to the Afghans, civilians and fighters. In fact, as little as 25 per cent of the monet for the Afghan jihad was actually supplied directly by states."
bin Ladin moved within Saudi intelligence's compartmented operations, outside of CIA eyesight... Page 86/ 87, Ghost Wars Stevel Coll
"...According to [Ahemd] Badeeb, on bin Ladin's first trip to Pakistan he brought donations to the Lahore offices of Jamaat-e-Islami, Zia's political shock force. Jamaat was the Pakistani offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood; its students had sacked the US embassy in Islamabad in 1979. bin Ladin did not trust the official Pakistan intelligence service, Badeeb recalled, and preferred to fund his initial charity through private religious and political networks.
From the beginning of the Afghan jihad, Saudi intelligence used religious charities to support its own unilateral operations. This mainly involved funneling money and equipment to favoured Afghan commanders outisde ISI or CIA control... "The humanitarian aid-that was completely separate from the Americans", Badeeb recalled. "And we insist[ed] that the Americans will not get to that, get involved--especially in the beginning," in part because some of the Islamist mujahedin objected to direct contact with Western infidels...
In spy lexicon, each of the major intelligence agencies began working the Afghan jihad--GID [General Intelligence Department, Saudi Arabia], ISI and the CIA-- began to "compartment" their work, even as all three collaborated with one another through formal liasons..."
Page 67/68, Holy War Inc, Peter Bergen
"But were the CIA and the Afghan Arabs in cahoots, as recent studies have suggested? One author charges: "The CIA had funded and trained the Afghan Arabs during the war". Another refers to "the central role of the CIA's Muslim mercenaries, including upwards of 2,000 mercenaries in the Afghanistan war". Both authors present these claims as axioms, but provide no real corroboration.
Other commentators have reported that bin Ladin himself was aided by the CIA. A report in the respected British newspaper The Guardian states: "In 1986 the CIA even helped him [bin Ladin] build an underground camp at Khost [Afghanistan] where he was to train recruits from across the Islamic world in the revolutionary art of jihad"...Bin Ladin, meanwhile, had expoused anti-American positions since 1982, and thanks to the fortune derived from his family's giant construction business had little need of CIA money. In fact, the underground camp at Khost was built in 1982 by an Afghan commander, with Arab funding.
A source familiar with bin Ladin's organisation explains that bin Ladin "never had any relations with America or American officials... He was saying very early in the 1980's that the next battle is going to be with America... No aid or training or other support have ever been given to bin Ladin from Americans." A senior offical unequivocally says that "bin Ladin never met with the CIA."
While the charges that the CIA was responsible for the rise of the Afghan Arabs might make good copy, they don't make good history. The truth is more complicated, tinged with varying shades of grey. The United States wanted to be able to deny that the CIA was funding the Afghan war, so its support was funneled through Pakistan's military intelligence agency, Inter Services Intelligence agency (ISI). ISI in turn made the decisions about which Afghan factions to arm and train, tending to fund the most Islamist and pro-Pakistan. The Afghan Arabs generally fought alongside those factions, which is how the charge arose that they were creatures of the CIA.
Former CIA officer Milt Bearden, who ran the Agency's Afghan operation in the late 1980's, says: "The CIA did not recruit Arabs," as there was no need to do so. There were hundreds of thousands of Afghans all too willing to fight...
Moreover, the Afghan Arabs demonstrated a pathological dislike of Westerners. Jouvenal says: "I always kept away from Arabs [in Afghanistan]. They were very hostile. They would ask, 'What are you doing in an Islamic country?" The BBC reporter John Simpson had a close call with bin Ladin himself outside Jalalabad in 1989. Travelling with a group of Arab mujahideen, Simpson and his television crew bumped into an Arab man beautifully dressed in spotless white robes; the man began shouting at Simpson's escorts to kill the infidels, then offered a truck driver the not unreasonable sum of five hundred dollars to do the job. Simpson's Afghan escort turned down the request, and bin Ladin was to be found later on a camp bed, weeping in frustration. Only when bin Ladin became a public figure, almost a decade later, did Simpson realise who the mysterious Arab was who had wanted him dead."
I love how 2, maybe 3 of us in this thread actually watched it, yet those who didn't flame it without any base or information why, just because of the topic. Many of you who are flaming don't even have the topic correct, or are misinterpreting things entirely. THEN, this whole thread becomes a flamefest toward Alex, who has done nothing but explain the movie to those who would rather flame than watch it, and defend himself. These forums are really going down the shitter...
Originally posted by Draenor note that I didn't flame the movie itself...only the conspiracy theorists who seem to be conglomorating in this thread
Well the problem as I see it is this, and please don't take me as a conspiracy theorist for saying so, but some of the theories, even the most insane ones, are easier to believe than the bullshit the Bush administration has pulled out of its ass in the last 5 years. I don't personally believe there was anything more to the towers falling than what we've seen in press releases, but when you look at everything in perspective, I do believe the whole thing was covered up, at least partially.
Nope, have not watched the video, not going to either. I get fed enough horse shit every day by the biased (both left and right) mainstream media, last thing i need is some wanna-be's feedin me more.
Originally posted by AlexAmore Originally posted by honzolo What are you talking about Alex? I am a disgrace to the 9/11 families? LOL, what does that even mean?? Too funny.
People like you kept telling us that so I figured I throw it right back. The movie is all about the 9/11 families.
<<Honzolo just "/yawned" so that wasn't being an a-hole? Enigma thinks that he can conclude the film after watching 30 minutes of it. Is that not being an a-hole? Lardmouth puts up a bunch of little child photos that is supposed to be condescending to my intelligence. Is that not being an a-hole? >>
LOL, maybe I was just 'tired'.
Seriously though, I believe the 9/11 Commision was originally formed to attempt to demonize the administration, but once they got into examining all the facts, they realized that the damage to the Clinton administration from it all would have been far worse for them than Bush. It might ruin his 'legacy'... which is a joke anyhow, as the most notable thing he did was come up with the 'Don't ask, don't tell' policy... LOL, quite a courageous stand for him indeed.
Why was Jamie Gorelik included in the 9/11 commision if not to cover up for her former bosses? She crafted the so called 'wall' between the CIA and the FBI so that they could not communicate with each other about the terrorists or anything else. Yet she sits up there ON the commission?? She should have been a witness, not a person in control of how the report wold turn out. Why was Sandy Berger destroying documents days prior to his testimony before the commission with his buddy Bill Clinton? Stuffing documents ,related to your administration, in your pants and socks and secreting them out of the national archives, and then once you're caught telling everyone you mistakenly took the documents, and oh wow, some of them may have been thrown out by 'accident' doesn't look suspicious at all, does it? Somehow, I think that if Condoleeza Rice had been caught doing that, the outrage would have been far far greater.You talk about G-Dub only agreeing to meet with the 9/11 commission if he was there with someone else... in his case, Dick Cheney... but Bill Clinton did the same thing, but thats not important.
Your feelings about G-Dub are clear and obvious. They taint your world view and its obvious for all to see. That's why I /yawn when people bring up these topics. Its just the usual suspects plying their trade in hatred. Criticizing the man is fine, when its justified... and there is plenty to criticize. But what you guys do goes beyond that. Its clearly an obsession that goes even farther than even those who lived every day of the Clinton administration hating Bill Clinton. It got old then. and its gotten old now. We're bored with it all.
<<There is zero evidence that Bin Laden was employed by the CIA....This is the kind of claim that makes me not waste time on this video. Zero evidence, Alex. If you have it, please begin to cite HARD evidence. Don't even bother posting "anonymous ex CIA agent said...." Anything like that will be ignored. Please post verifiable documents, etc. Let me head you off first. Pre-empitve strike, if you will. The CIA funneled resources to the afghanis to throw out the russians. Foriegn figures and their groups, such as Bin Laden, recieved their funds from other sources. >>
Not a preemptive strike!!! OMG, you hatemongering warmongering hatemonger!
Originally posted by Infliction I love how 2, maybe 3 of us in this thread actually watched it, yet those who didn't flame it without any base or information why, just because of the topic. Many of you who are flaming don't even have the topic correct, or are misinterpreting things entirely. THEN, this whole thread becomes a flamefest toward Alex, who has done nothing but explain the movie to those who would rather flame than watch it, and defend himself. These forums are really going down the shitter...
I'm gonna post on youtube the music video to "We Will Rock You" and cite the link as the best 9/11 conspiracy movie ever. I bet you anything the same old faces will be in here flaming it as being 'just the same as Fahrenheit 9/11.' Idiots.
WATCH THE MOVIE OR DISCUSS YOUR OPINIONS IN A DIFFERENT THREAD FOR F*CKS SAKE! THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE MOVIE! NOT 9/11! NOT CT'S! NOT BUSH! Jesus christ...
Originally posted by Infliction I love how 2, maybe 3 of us in this thread actually watched it, yet those who didn't flame it without any base or information why, just because of the topic. Many of you who are flaming don't even have the topic correct, or are misinterpreting things entirely. THEN, this whole thread becomes a flamefest toward Alex, who has done nothing but explain the movie to those who would rather flame than watch it, and defend himself. These forums are really going down the shitter...
I guarantee that if I watch the movie I won't learn a damned thing. You know why? Because every accusation or bit of 'evidence' in the movie I will have seen at some time or another. There are at least a dozen 'documentaries' out that all cover, in a convenient fashion for the impaired, news and information that has been circulating for months and years before the 'ground breaking video' was made. The reason it is a flamefest toward Alex is because he is always believing everything that could possibly be considered "anti-establishment." He has become so predictably 1967.
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No, I don't need to watch it.
Fine, just don't post in this thread then. You have nothing to add that is constructive.
It is the same story time and again.
How do you know? You don't. I told you this is a very different film. You must not be a quitter like enigma or else you won't understand the film's context.
I was not talking about loose change. I was talking about your information being based on convenient internet theory and the fact that you changed from trying to argue points to being an a-hole about it.
Honzolo just "/yawned" so that wasn't being an a-hole? Enigma thinks that he can conclude the film after watching 30 minutes of it. Is that not being an a-hole? Lardmouth puts up a bunch of little child photos that is supposed to be condescending to my intelligence. Is that not being an a-hole?
Sorry but the movement is constantly attacked and has been attacked by people on here by calling me a grave stomper and disgraceful....ect. Every name in the book.
BTW, just because someone is witholding information does not equal covering up.
In this case it does. Videos, and recordings and complete recordings could be released.
Like I have told you before many times, I do not know who poisoned your mind in your youth, but you have not learned much about true logic in life. If A, then B, is not an argument. It is a fallacy. Your posts don't need to be taken in context with
some lame video that compiles a nice list of errors, problems, whatnot, and only their corroborating evidence.
You don't have to watch it but don't bash it....that's false logic for sure.
The day I see you post a video or quote / link that looks at ALL possibilities and supporting evidence, then maybe, just maybe, I will get off your back when it comes to this.
______________________________
"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
You all have to understand that just because someone is conservative/Republican doesn't make them God where they can't do anything bad. This film doesn't attack conservative/Republican beliefs at all. Same goes for Liberals. Clinton did some pretty horrible things. If some films came out showing all of Clintons horrible acts then I would come right on and post it for all to see.
How did you disern that as my meaning from my post? Evel Kenievel couldn't have made that leap........
You said if the film is like fahrenheit 911 then you will not watch it. That movie is KNOWN for having a liberal bias, because of Michael Moore. It wasn't much of a stretch to think you're the opposite of Moore.
I'm not a republican.
btw, you conspiracy theory people really need to stop...maybe the government is witholding sensative information because they have a reason to do so?
Yeah some videos of the Pentagon is real sensitive for sure......
Not everything that Bush does is done with malicious intent, no matter how much you like to think that it is. I am far from being a Bush fanboy, but you people who challenge every single god damn thing that the man does; you are sad. Anything to get a republican out of office right? No matter how petty, no matter how insignificant, you NEED to challenge Bush, because if you don't, then the American people won't hate the man and you won't get your diefied democrats into office.
I don't like democrats either. This isn't about right vs left. If a conservative kills someone and I turn that conservative in then does that make me a liberal?
Once again, I'm not a republican, you people are just disgusting.
Watch the damn movie.
______________________________
"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
There is zero evidence that Bin Laden was employed by the CIA....This is the kind of claim that makes me not waste time on this video. Zero evidence, Alex. If you have it, please begin to cite HARD evidence. Don't even bother posting "anonymous ex CIA agent said...." Anything like that will be ignored. Please post verifiable documents, etc. Let me head you off first. Pre-empitve strike, if you will. The CIA funneled resources to the afghanis to throw out the russians. Foriegn figures and their groups, such as Bin Laden, recieved their funds from other sources.
Page 59, Al Qaeda: The true story of radical Islam
Jason Burkes
"It is often said that bin Ladin was funded by the CIA. This is not true, and indeed it would have been impossible given the structure of funding that General Zia ul-Haq, who had taken power in Pakistan in 1977, had set up. A condition of Zia's cooperation with the American plan to turn Afghanistan into the Soviet's 'Vietnam' was that all American funding to the Afghan resistance had to be channeled through the Pakistani government, which effectively meant the Afghan bureau of the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), the military spy agency.
The American funding, which went exclusively to the Afghan mujahideen groups, not the Arab volunteers [bin Ladin's groups], was supplemented by Saudi government money and huge funds raised from mosques, non-governmental charitable institutions and private donors throughout the Islamic world. Most of the major Gulf-based charities operating today were founded at this time to raise money or channel government funds to the Afghans, civilians and fighters. In fact, as little as 25 per cent of the monet for the Afghan jihad was actually supplied directly by states."
bin Ladin moved within Saudi intelligence's compartmented operations, outside of CIA eyesight...
Page 86/ 87, Ghost Wars
Stevel Coll
"...According to [Ahemd] Badeeb, on bin Ladin's first trip to Pakistan he brought donations to the Lahore offices of Jamaat-e-Islami, Zia's political shock force. Jamaat was the Pakistani offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood; its students had sacked the US embassy in Islamabad in 1979. bin Ladin did not trust the official Pakistan intelligence service, Badeeb recalled, and preferred to fund his initial charity through private religious and political networks.
From the beginning of the Afghan jihad, Saudi intelligence used religious charities to support its own unilateral operations. This mainly involved funneling money and equipment to favoured Afghan commanders outisde ISI or CIA control... "The humanitarian aid-that was completely separate from the Americans", Badeeb recalled. "And we insist[ed] that the Americans will not get to that, get involved--especially in the beginning," in part because some of the Islamist mujahedin objected to direct contact with Western infidels...
In spy lexicon, each of the major intelligence agencies began working the Afghan jihad--GID [General Intelligence Department, Saudi Arabia], ISI and the CIA-- began to "compartment" their work, even as all three collaborated with one another through formal liasons..."
Page 67/68, Holy War Inc,
Peter Bergen
"But were the CIA and the Afghan Arabs in cahoots, as recent studies have suggested? One author charges: "The CIA had funded and trained the Afghan Arabs during the war". Another refers to "the central role of the CIA's Muslim mercenaries, including upwards of 2,000 mercenaries in the Afghanistan war". Both authors present these claims as axioms, but provide no real corroboration.
Other commentators have reported that bin Ladin himself was aided by the CIA. A report in the respected British newspaper The Guardian states: "In 1986 the CIA even helped him [bin Ladin] build an underground camp at Khost [Afghanistan] where he was to train recruits from across the Islamic world in the revolutionary art of jihad"...Bin Ladin, meanwhile, had expoused anti-American positions since 1982, and thanks to the fortune derived from his family's giant construction business had little need of CIA money. In fact, the underground camp at Khost was built in 1982 by an Afghan commander, with Arab funding.
A source familiar with bin Ladin's organisation explains that bin Ladin "never had any relations with America or American officials... He was saying very early in the 1980's that the next battle is going to be with America... No aid or training or other support have ever been given to bin Ladin from Americans." A senior offical unequivocally says that "bin Ladin never met with the CIA."
While the charges that the CIA was responsible for the rise of the Afghan Arabs might make good copy, they don't make good history. The truth is more complicated, tinged with varying shades of grey. The United States wanted to be able to deny that the CIA was funding the Afghan war, so its support was funneled through Pakistan's military intelligence agency, Inter Services Intelligence agency (ISI). ISI in turn made the decisions about which Afghan factions to arm and train, tending to fund the most Islamist and pro-Pakistan. The Afghan Arabs generally fought alongside those factions, which is how the charge arose that they were creatures of the CIA.
Former CIA officer Milt Bearden, who ran the Agency's Afghan operation in the late 1980's, says: "The CIA did not recruit Arabs," as there was no need to do so. There were hundreds of thousands of Afghans all too willing to fight...
Moreover, the Afghan Arabs demonstrated a pathological dislike of Westerners. Jouvenal says: "I always kept away from Arabs [in Afghanistan]. They were very hostile. They would ask, 'What are you doing in an Islamic country?" The BBC reporter John Simpson had a close call with bin Ladin himself outside Jalalabad in 1989. Travelling with a group of Arab mujahideen, Simpson and his television crew bumped into an Arab man beautifully dressed in spotless white robes; the man began shouting at Simpson's escorts to kill the infidels, then offered a truck driver the not unreasonable sum of five hundred dollars to do the job. Simpson's Afghan escort turned down the request, and bin Ladin was to be found later on a camp bed, weeping in frustration. Only when bin Ladin became a public figure, almost a decade later, did Simpson realise who the mysterious Arab was who had wanted him dead."
Now, Bin Laden himself. http://www.robert-fisk.com/usama_bin_ladin_in_sudan1996.htm
Al Qaida recounting their funding. http://www.uofh.com/114/id_s/1304/
US Department of State makes this statement http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/24-318760.html
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Nope, have not watched the video, not going to either. I get fed enough horse shit every day by the biased (both left and right) mainstream media, last thing i need is some wanna-be's feedin me more.
Ah, ok.
<<Honzolo just "/yawned" so that wasn't being an a-hole? Enigma thinks that he can conclude the film after watching 30 minutes of it. Is that not being an a-hole? Lardmouth puts up a bunch of little child photos that is supposed to be condescending to my intelligence. Is that not being an a-hole?
>>
LOL, maybe I was just 'tired'.
Seriously though, I believe the 9/11 Commision was originally formed to attempt to demonize the administration, but once they got into examining all the facts, they realized that the damage to the Clinton administration from it all would have been far worse for them than Bush. It might ruin his 'legacy'... which is a joke anyhow, as the most notable thing he did was come up with the 'Don't ask, don't tell' policy... LOL, quite a courageous stand for him indeed.
Why was Jamie Gorelik included in the 9/11 commision if not to cover up for her former bosses? She crafted the so called 'wall' between the CIA and the FBI so that they could not communicate with each other about the terrorists or anything else. Yet she sits up there ON the commission?? She should have been a witness, not a person in control of how the report wold turn out. Why was Sandy Berger destroying documents days prior to his testimony before the commission with his buddy Bill Clinton? Stuffing documents ,related to your administration, in your pants and socks and secreting them out of the national archives, and then once you're caught telling everyone you mistakenly took the documents, and oh wow, some of them may have been thrown out by 'accident' doesn't look suspicious at all, does it? Somehow, I think that if Condoleeza Rice had been caught doing that, the outrage would have been far far greater.You talk about G-Dub only agreeing to meet with the 9/11 commission if he was there with someone else... in his case, Dick Cheney... but Bill Clinton did the same thing, but thats not important.
Your feelings about G-Dub are clear and obvious. They taint your world view and its obvious for all to see. That's why I /yawn when people bring up these topics. Its just the usual suspects plying their trade in hatred. Criticizing the man is fine, when its justified... and there is plenty to criticize. But what you guys do goes beyond that. Its clearly an obsession that goes even farther than even those who lived every day of the Clinton administration hating Bill Clinton. It got old then. and its gotten old now. We're bored with it all.
<<There is zero evidence that Bin Laden was employed by the CIA....This is the kind of claim that makes me not waste time on this video. Zero evidence, Alex. If you have it, please begin to cite HARD evidence. Don't even bother posting "anonymous ex CIA agent said...." Anything like that will be ignored. Please post verifiable documents, etc. Let me head you off first. Pre-empitve strike, if you will. The CIA funneled resources to the afghanis to throw out the russians. Foriegn figures and their groups, such as Bin Laden, recieved their funds from other sources. >>
Not a preemptive strike!!! OMG, you hatemongering warmongering hatemonger!
Hehe
I'm gonna post on youtube the music video to "We Will Rock You" and cite the link as the best 9/11 conspiracy movie ever. I bet you anything the same old faces will be in here flaming it as being 'just the same as Fahrenheit 9/11.' Idiots.
WATCH THE MOVIE OR DISCUSS YOUR OPINIONS IN A DIFFERENT THREAD FOR F*CKS SAKE! THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE MOVIE! NOT 9/11! NOT CT'S! NOT BUSH! Jesus christ...