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  • kimosabekimosabe Member Posts: 516


    Originally posted by OneMuslim

    Originally posted by Aelfinn
    Heh, self delusion for the win. Why do you think most religions were created in the first place? I would say all of them were originally created out of a fear that this life is it, but most will have to do for now.
    Most religions were man made, except for 1, The Original Islam, which is what Judiasm and Christianity were about.



    Sorry man. Islam is as manmade as any other religion. Who drew up Islam? Muhammad. Muhammad was a man, a man with divine inspiration maybe, but still a man. From what I understand, Muhammad couldn't even read, so he had a buddy of his write up the Koran (I'm gonna spell it this way). This buddy of Muhammad's, he had no divine inspiration, and no motivation aside from the fact that Muhammad was his friend. This guy coulda spun up all of Muhammad's words to fit this one guy's liking, and Muhammad would never have known that what he heard from God was not what was put in the Koran. Possible, yes. Likely, I dunno, especially since it is a highly esteemed teaching of Islam. The simple fact is, every religion is manmade, whether through true divinity or not, and every religion is steadfastly confident in its own divinity.

    If I'm wrong about the illiterate Muhammad thing tell me and I'll edit it out.

    Je mettrai l'amour sur dos de moi.

  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857


    Originally posted by OneMuslim

    Originally posted by Aelfinn

    Heh, self delusion for the win. Why do you think most religions were created in the first place? I would say all of them were originally created out of a fear that this life is it, but most will have to do for now.
    Most religions were man made, except for 1, The Original Islam, which is what Judiasm and Christianity were about.
    This is your opinion, nothing else, its not fact, its not even a reliable theory. This is what I was reffering to before
    Originally posted by OneMuslim
    There are different types of Paradise with every different religion, however i've never seen a better paradise descriotion than that of Islam.

    Dude, I respect your religion, and especcially the message it entails, but you and obsir1 are getting really annoying with this kind of crap.

    First, ob1sr is me, second thing, if you do respect my religion, then please at least have the ability to show it, if it's crap then prove it's crap, at least it's good to have hope, rather than nothingness.

    Good to know it, in case you didnt know, having more than one account is against the rules here.

    I do not think your religion is crap, I never once said a thing to indicate that. The crap I am talking about is your attitude




    No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    Hemingway

  • modjoe86modjoe86 Member UncommonPosts: 4,050


    Originally posted by Aelfinn

    Originally posted by OneMuslim

    Originally posted by Aelfinn

    Heh, self delusion for the win. Why do you think most religions were created in the first place? I would say all of them were originally created out of a fear that this life is it, but most will have to do for now.
    Most religions were man made, except for 1, The Original Islam, which is what Judiasm and Christianity were about.
    This is your opinion, nothing else, its not fact, its not even a reliable theory. This is what I was reffering to before
    Originally posted by OneMuslim
    There are different types of Paradise with every different religion, however i've never seen a better paradise descriotion than that of Islam.

    Dude, I respect your religion, and especcially the message it entails, but you and obsir1 are getting really annoying with this kind of crap.

    First, ob1sr is me, second thing, if you do respect my religion, then please at least have the ability to show it, if it's crap then prove it's crap, at least it's good to have hope, rather than nothingness.

    Good to know it, in case you didnt know, having more than one account is against the rules here.

    I do not think your religion is crap, I never once said a thing to indicate that. The crap I am talking about is your attitude









    Called out for double account...impressive.
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  • OneMuslimOneMuslim Member Posts: 426

    Originally posted by Aelfinn
    This is your opinion, nothing else, its not fact, its not even a reliable theory. This is what I was reffering to before

    What was Judaism being called at the time of the messenger Moses? and what was Christianity was being called too at the times of the messenger Jesus?

    Good to know it, in case you didnt know, having more than one account is against the rules here.

    Once i knew that, i stopped posting on the same topic using different accounts, the other thing i made the other because i was banned because of something i was misunderstood for.

    I do not think your religion is crap, I never once said a thing to indicate that. The crap I am talking about is your attitude.

    Then how do you want me to talk? so i can be better at talking with you, or try to at least not offend you.

    This is your opinion, nothing else, its not fact, its not even a reliable theory. This is what I was reffering to before

    What was Judaism being called at the time of the messenger Moses? and what was Christianity was being called too at the times of the messenger Jesus?

    Good to know it, in case you didnt know, having more than one account is against the rules here.

    Once i knew that, i stopped posting on the same topic using different accounts, the other thing i made the other because i was banned because of something i was misunderstood for.

    I do not think your religion is crap, I never once said a thing to indicate that. The crap I am talking about is your attitude.

    Then how do you want me to talk? so i can be better at talking with you, or try to at least not offend you.

  • kimosabekimosabe Member Posts: 516
    So you don't have anything further to say besides arguing your same old argument over and over again? Please, tell me your interpretation on my views and tell me how deep into hell I'm going for this heresy.

    Je mettrai l'amour sur dos de moi.

  • OneMuslimOneMuslim Member Posts: 426



    Originally posted by modjoe86

    Called out for double account...impressive.




    tsk tsk tsk, still being jealous because you were banned and i wasn't?

    at least i didn't know and i stopped before it happened to me, you on the other hand KNEW but you were too ignorant to not at least try and avoid :}

  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857


    Originally posted by OneMuslim




    Originally posted by Aelfinn This is your opinion, nothing else, its not fact, its not even a reliable theory. This is what I was reffering to before
    What was Judaism being called at the time of the messenger Moses? and what was Christianity was being called too at the times of the messenger Jesus?
    Good to know it, in case you didnt know, having more than one account is against the rules here.
    Once i knew that, i stopped posting on the same topic using different accounts, the other thing i made the other because i was banned because of something i was misunderstood for.
    I do not think your religion is crap, I never once said a thing to indicate that. The crap I am talking about is your attitude.
    Then how do you want me to talk? so i can be better at talking with you, or try to at least not offend you.





    The main issue I and others have with your posts is the attitude with which you present yourself and your religion. Islam may be the one religion for you, but that does not mean that everyone else is obligated to follow/believe in it just because you do. Try presenting your views as they are, opinions.
    Note: I am not saying your the only one who does this either

    No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    Hemingway

  • OneMuslimOneMuslim Member Posts: 426


    Originally posted by kimosabe

    Originally posted by OneMuslim

    Originally posted by Aelfinn
    Heh, self delusion for the win. Why do you think most religions were created in the first place? I would say all of them were originally created out of a fear that this life is it, but most will have to do for now.
    Most religions were man made, except for 1, The Original Islam, which is what Judiasm and Christianity were about.



    Sorry man. Islam is as manmade as any other religion. Who drew up Islam? Muhammad. Muhammad was a man, a man with divine inspiration maybe, but still a man. From what I understand, Muhammad couldn't even read, so he had a buddy of his write up the Koran (I'm gonna spell it this way). This buddy of Muhammad's, he had no divine inspiration, and no motivation aside from the fact that Muhammad was his friend. This guy coulda spun up all of Muhammad's words to fit this one guy's liking, and Muhammad would never have known that what he heard from God was not what was put in the Koran. Possible, yes. Likely, I dunno, especially since it is a highly esteemed teaching of Islam. The simple fact is, every religion is manmade, whether through true divinity or not, and every religion is steadfastly confident in its own divinity.

    If I'm wrong about the illiterate Muhammad thing tell me and I'll edit it out.


    It's Mohammad.

    And Qur'an.

    and thanks for asking.

    first of all i'd like to clear up one thing for you, with a question, just a small one.

    He was indeed an illeterate man, but that's one miracle by itself.

    Answer this one however, if you were beable to then i will concede, of course your answer has to be something i am not aware of :}

    How come an illeritate man, bring a book that contains things, writings and sayings, that no one on this entire earth knew about, until few years ago?

  • kimosabekimosabe Member Posts: 516

    My point is if Muhammad (I told you I was gonna spell it this way) was illiterate, how can he tell that his buddy didn't change the word of God to fit his own agenda? The Koran will have human error, even if this guy was on the level, and it is just as legit as the Bible and any of the books that didn't make the final cut. There is nothing to say that Islam is more divine or more correct than any other religion out there. Muhammad could've been crazy, like Nostradamus, and so his words would seem far ahead of their time, but still be based in just as much fact as my little brother's superbowl estimations.

    Je mettrai l'amour sur dos de moi.

  • sexysarah19sexysarah19 Member Posts: 38


    Originally posted by OneMuslim




    Originally posted by modjoe86

    Called out for double account...impressive.




    tsk tsk tsk, still being jealous because you were banned and i wasn't?

    at least i didn't know and i stopped before it happened to me, you on the other hand KNEW but you were too ignorant to not at least try and avoid :}


    What does the RoC say about this? You guys seem to be ganging up on this guy.
  • kimosabekimosabe Member Posts: 516


    Originally posted by sexysarah19

    Originally posted by OneMuslim


    Originally posted by modjoe86

    Called out for double account...impressive.


    tsk tsk tsk, still being jealous because you were banned and i wasn't?

    at least i didn't know and i stopped before it happened to me, you on the other hand KNEW but you were too ignorant to not at least try and avoid :}


    What does the RoC say about this? You guys seem to be ganging up on this guy.

    He's a fire-starter, and slams everyone else's religion, albeit subtly (sp?). Since he doesn't agree with anyone else, and has a superiority complex, along with a suitcase full of arrogance, it makes him a little less than popular.

    ...I predict a martyr speech coming up.

    Je mettrai l'amour sur dos de moi.

  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857


    Originally posted by sexysarah19
    What does the RoC say about this? You guys seem to be ganging up on this guy.


    Merely this

    Multiple Accounts - If the staff of MMORPG.com discovers that a user is creating and/or using multiple accounts, that user, and all accounts, both past and present, will be banned from MMORPG.com.

    He stated he is now if not then aware of it, and isnt using the second account anymore. As far as I personally am concerned, that particular issue is closed based on that.

    That still does leave the superiority complex of his

    No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    Hemingway

  • OneMuslimOneMuslim Member Posts: 426


    Originally posted by kimosabe

    He's a fire-starter, and slams everyone else's religion, albeit subtly (sp?). Since he doesn't agree with anyone else, and has a superiority complex, along with a suitcase full of arrogance, it makes him a little less than popular.
    ...I predict a martyr speech coming up.


    If you're talking about me as a fire-starter then you're mistaken, i don't start any fire, or the fires i started were nothing compared to the fires started by the likes or modjoe :}
  • sexysarah19sexysarah19 Member Posts: 38


    Originally posted by OneMuslim

    Originally posted by kimosabe

    He's a fire-starter, and slams everyone else's religion, albeit subtly (sp?). Since he doesn't agree with anyone else, and has a superiority complex, along with a suitcase full of arrogance, it makes him a little less than popular.
    ...I predict a martyr speech coming up.

    If you're talking about me as a fire-starter then you're mistaken, i don't start any fire, or the fires i started were nothing compared to the fires started by the likes or modjoe :}

    The RoC was broken with your accounts,  was it not?
  • kimosabekimosabe Member Posts: 516
    Hellz yes it was, but I'm willing to bet he'll plead the ignorance bit, and everyone (including me) will let it slide without another word.

    Je mettrai l'amour sur dos de moi.

  • sexysarah19sexysarah19 Member Posts: 38


    Originally posted by OneMuslim

    Originally posted by kimosabe

    He's a fire-starter, and slams everyone else's religion, albeit subtly (sp?). Since he doesn't agree with anyone else, and has a superiority complex, along with a suitcase full of arrogance, it makes him a little less than popular.
    ...I predict a martyr speech coming up.

    If you're talking about me as a fire-starter then you're mistaken, i don't start any fire, or the fires i started were nothing compared to the fires started by the likes or modjoe :}

    You broke the RoC blatantly, banstick is in order.
  • ORLYORLY Member Posts: 29


    Originally posted by binary_0011
    This not a a flamebait ! Troll please go away.

    I want to know beside Christian, which religious say you can go to heaven?

    Buddhist is about free from recarnation.

    what about hindus?

    what about other regious?

    Any regious expert out there?


    there is no heaven sucker
  • binary_0011binary_0011 Member Posts: 528
    so judasiam, catholic and christian go to the same heaven or different heaven?

  • Runny123Runny123 Member Posts: 177



    Originally posted by binary_0011
    so judasiam, catholic and christian go to the same heaven or different heaven?




    catholics and christians are the same thing.
  • TheodorykTheodoryk Member Posts: 1,453


    catholics and christians are the same thing.

    No, I think not.

    "Speaking haygywaygy or some other gibberish with your mum doesn't make you foreign."
    -baff

  • kimosabekimosabe Member Posts: 516

    All right. Jews and Christians are pretty much the only ones who call eternal paradise "heaven." Other religions have other names, but it's my personal belief (through logic and reasoning) that it is the exact same "heaven" even though it is called a different name.

    -Note on christianity v catholicism- Christians are anyone who believe in the divinity of Jesus. Catholics are one specefic divison of Christianity.

    Je mettrai l'amour sur dos de moi.

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