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Tamalan
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So I thought i would give the new trial a go, bear in mind i havn't played since i quit just after the CU.
Im not using my old account, i gave it away long ago to a friend, so hence why im not using the vet trial.
Whats the quickest way in? Re-installing from old disks and patching or downloading the whole trial?
Im not using my old account, i gave it away long ago to a friend, so hence why im not using the vet trial.
Whats the quickest way in? Re-installing from old disks and patching or downloading the whole trial?
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Thanks for not actually answering the question i posed
But in response, Im very aware of the other threads. I feel, like many others, that I am completely unable to credibly vent my SWG spleen without actually trying the 'new' game first hand.
So thats why im giving the new trial a go.
So I'll ask again, whats quicker Install and patch, or downloading the whole trial?
Edit: Thanks for the info Obraik
I'll be posting my feedback initially in the current forums, seeing as though I am trying the current game
As for how long it remains there, well that depends on how i personally find the state of the game to be and my response to it.
Just to add, I will be also be giving the opinions of my 8 year old son for balance
I'll be posting my feedback initially in the current forums, seeing as though I am trying the current game
As for how long it remains there, well that depends on how i personally find the state of the game to be and my response to it.
Just to add, I will be also be giving the opinions of my 8 year old son for balance
Generally, as long as you're not overly comparing every feature to the pre-nge version, it won't be moved.
I'll be posting my feedback initially in the current forums, seeing as though I am trying the current game
As for how long it remains there, well that depends on how i personally find the state of the game to be and my response to it.
Just to add, I will be also be giving the opinions of my 8 year old son for balance
Generally, as long as you're not overly comparing every feature to the pre-nge version, it won't be moved.
Hmm.. could be tricky, my main was a Wookie Ranger who liked Camping and had a sideline in Creature Handling :P
I'll be posting my feedback initially in the current forums, seeing as though I am trying the current game
As for how long it remains there, well that depends on how i personally find the state of the game to be and my response to it.
Just to add, I will be also be giving the opinions of my 8 year old son for balance
Generally, as long as you're not overly comparing every feature to the pre-nge version, it won't be moved.
Hmm.. could be tricky, my main was a Wookie Ranger who liked Camping and had a sideline in Creature Handling :P
Chapter 5 is apparantly the return of camps
Thanks for not actually answering the question i posed
But in response, Im very aware of the other threads. I feel, like many others, that I am completely unable to credibly vent my SWG spleen without actually trying the 'new' game first hand.
So thats why im giving the new trial a go.
So I'll ask again, whats quicker Install and patch, or downloading the whole trial?
Edit: Thanks for the info Obraik
We all do this... it's odd almost like a drug addiction.
BUT, no worry.. you will be right back here with us shortly there after.
In a way, it will bring some closure to what you think though, as it did myself I think.
Once you "feel" the game and see what they have done to it, by means of control, looks, feel and just being in places that were once full with people and that MMO hustle and bustle you will see it.
It sucks, I took screen shots of places I went... that used to be full and had a good feel of excitment and advancment to them.
Now, ghost towns.... bad ones, not just a little but I mean bad. Creepy bad...
(Also note: If one person tells you "Oh everyone is out questing" -- then you ask "Where?" because to this day, not one person that said that has shown me where or the giant flux of questers out there.
It's funny, all the NGErs will talk smack but the second you ask them to show you success, they cannot seem to do so. I asked, Devs, GS's anyone to show me where all these people are in game..
The response is this: "Restuess".... "Eisley Cantina" and "Mustafar" ---Restuess is nothing but dueling and PvP of the diehards, it is Zerg city and the same thing over and over... SO if that is it, then you can be in and out of there in 10 mins... Eisley is where you start, if you think about it... this is where ALL the entertainment is... I mean thats, it... Theed had 3 people in it... THEED!!!! Theed used to have freaking wall to wall people and CORONET Had more people outside and in then my map could see.. now empty..
At least go look around... You NEED to see it for yourself... go to some of your old favorite cities..
Don't let us tell you anything, just go look for yourself.. take screen shots, THEN please come back here and tell it from your point of view..
It does not, nor will not take anyone more then one hour in game to see how bad it is.
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I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
What good are camps going to be in the NGE? Are they bringing back wounds?
Either way it's laughable that they are slowly putting things back that they took away and act like it's new content.
I sleep with a pillow under my gun.
And once AGAIN, somthing we had pre-NGE that was taken out for 0 reason brought back under cheap code and will for sure be a highlight.
LOOK WE HAVE CAMPS!!! ... but oh yeah, once again we had them before.
I still have crates of camps I can drop in houses..
See this is my point...some people should not be fooled into thinking this is somthing great... it is SOMTHING we already had.
So if anything it is another "LOOK AT WHAT WE DID AS DEVS FOR YOU" type bullshit.
Unreal these people still have a job..
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
I think it's nice they are adding things back they took away. Sadly, the only thing to bring me back will be adding the old profession system. That was the meat for me. I get tired of the potato fluff when there is no meat...
I think it's nice they are adding things back they took away. Sadly, the only thing to bring me back will be adding the old profession system. That was the meat for me. I get tired of the potato fluff when there is no meat...
But see that is the is the problem.
11 months later and they are bringing back camps.... ?? I mean think about it. W T F??
I can think of about 1000 things they need to work on before a camp.
Not to mention it was somthing we had before...which now serves NO purpose at all in the NGE.
No decay, no wounds... Crap there is barely enough people to do anything with.. let alone set up a camp.
Nobody needs 20 people to bring a Krayt down, nobody needs a camp out on Dath to heal up and or sit..., in fact there is no Rangers, no CHs to pull pets out in, nothing...
Camps have less of a purpose now more so then ever...
THIS is the gripe... They want to give camps back, but people are screaming for better crafting, they want to bring expertise, but people want back skil sets, they want to bring back Bounty system, people have no loss for that to matter?
Crap like that.. all while the game is so unpolished it allows me to stay in aggro and fight a ship terminal for 10 mins.
Great...
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
The camps thing will be part of the Crafter Revamp. It sounds like they want to give camps more of a role in combat then just being a portable cantina/camp.
Is it the same thing if it's been enhanced?
I think it's nice they are adding things back they took away. Sadly, the only thing to bring me back will be adding the old profession system. That was the meat for me. I get tired of the potato fluff when there is no meat...
But see that is the is the problem.
11 months later and they are bringing back camps.... ?? I mean think about it. W T F??
I can think of about 1000 things they need to work on before a camp.
Not to mention it was somthing we had before...which now serves NO purpose at all in the NGE.
No decay, no wounds... Crap there is barely enough people to do anything with.. let alone set up a camp.
Nobody needs 20 people to bring a Krayt down, nobody needs a camp out on Dath to heal up and or sit..., in fact there is no Rangers, no CHs to pull pets out in, nothing...
Camps have less of a purpose now more so then ever...
THIS is the gripe... They want to give camps back, but people are screaming for better crafting, they want to bring expertise, but people want back skil sets, they want to bring back Bounty system, people have no loss for that to matter?
Crap like that.. all while the game is so unpolished it allows me to stay in aggro and fight a ship terminal for 10 mins.
Great...
Isk, you have had too much coffee this morning. I was basically saying the same thing you are but in a more discreet, glib fasion.
I have no intention of resubbing just because CAMPS ARE BACK! My point was, they keep adding side dishes when the steak you ordered is still on the grill. If I fill up on potatoes while waiting on the steak it leaves me wholly unsatisfied and wanting to leave in a huff without paying.
But I do think it's nice that the new guys (and vets still playing) get to see a glimpse of what once was. It will make them start asking questions like, so what do camps do anyway.? Which leads to answers like "Well, in the old days...."
Now are we on the same page??
Lets put it this way... If they bring it back and say (You get a crafting bonus while in one then yes it is) ---
Camps alone did this: Healed wounds, Allowed entertainers to buff, allowed you to craft (in the big one with the crafting station) Also (Said at one time which I still think was crap) Kept creatures away.
If they bring it back and say: You can crafter better, You can heal up faster, You can Hide better
Then yeah, it's a joke. If they do not change the way they look even it will not suprise me.
Enhanced, version 11 months later.
Tell ya what.. What do you think is more important: Fixing the bad parts of the game, or making it so you can use camps again?
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
I think it's nice they are adding things back they took away. Sadly, the only thing to bring me back will be adding the old profession system. That was the meat for me. I get tired of the potato fluff when there is no meat...
But see that is the is the problem.
11 months later and they are bringing back camps.... ?? I mean think about it. W T F??
I can think of about 1000 things they need to work on before a camp.
Not to mention it was somthing we had before...which now serves NO purpose at all in the NGE.
No decay, no wounds... Crap there is barely enough people to do anything with.. let alone set up a camp.
Nobody needs 20 people to bring a Krayt down, nobody needs a camp out on Dath to heal up and or sit..., in fact there is no Rangers, no CHs to pull pets out in, nothing...
Camps have less of a purpose now more so then ever...
THIS is the gripe... They want to give camps back, but people are screaming for better crafting, they want to bring expertise, but people want back skil sets, they want to bring back Bounty system, people have no loss for that to matter?
Crap like that.. all while the game is so unpolished it allows me to stay in aggro and fight a ship terminal for 10 mins.
Great...
Isk, you have had too much coffee this morning. I was basically saying the same thing you are but in a more discreet, glib fasion.
I have no intention of resubbing just because CAMPS ARE BACK! My point was, they keep adding side dishes when the steak you ordered is still on the grill. If I fill up on potatoes while waiting on the steak it leaves me wholly unsatisfied and wanting to leave in a huff without paying.
But I do think it's nice that the new guys (and vets still playing) get to see a glimpse of what once was. It will make them start asking questions like, so what do camps do anyway.? Which leads to answers like "Well, in the old days...."
Now are we on the same page??
5th cup and now I am hungry as freaking Hell, you suck.
And yes I know..what your saying. Man I am hungry really now... I don't eat breakfast until someone says that like you did damn you.
I do like this "Well, in the old days..." lol
Maroji Melons for all.
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Lets put it this way... If they bring it back and say (You get a crafting bonus while in one then yes it is) ---
Camps alone did this: Healed wounds, Allowed entertainers to buff, allowed you to craft (in the big one with the crafting station) Also (Said at one time which I still think was crap) Kept creatures away.
If they bring it back and say: You can crafter better, You can heal up faster, You can Hide better
Then yeah, it's a joke. If they do not change the way they look even it will not suprise me.
Enhanced, version 11 months later.
Tell ya what.. What do you think is more important: Fixing the bad parts of the game, or making it so you can use camps again?
Why not do both?
While on the topic of camps...
I find it that much more pathetic that they are now saying they're going to bring them back.
Helios didn't understand what was fun about camps, and he took alot of flack for it. The funny thing is, and what he doesn't understand, is that he wasn't taking flack for not understanding camps, people were (are) pissed because he doesn't understand the players, and the players used the camps as an example of his ignorance.
What does he do? He says he's adding camps back in, as he so proudly announced on the forums, expecting a big 'huzzah!' from all the players. He's still proving his ignorance of the players. The crime which SOE/LA seems most guilty. Know your customers.
Putting the camps back may not be a bad thing.
But Helios is a "bad" thing...
People dislike him not for lack of camps, but for lack of understanding their customers need...
He just don't get it, what SWG once was about...