Japanese researchers find dolphin with 'remains of legs' Why do stories like this never seem to get through to the anti-evolutionists? I mean, it's a dolphin with the reamains of back legs! That means something. And it also means something that scientists have said that dolphins are animals that returned to the water as shown through the fossil records. Of course there are going to be some reminants of those traits in the DNA that will show itself from time to time. Sometimes babies are even born with tails.
I hear of cat babies too from the japanese....but that is some good news. It will just be ignored though. Yahoo don't put up good news and I don't know about the rest of the news sites.
I don't see how people cannot make the connection between seafaring mammals and land mammals. They all have the same attributes, fins that contain the same type of bones as hands and feet do, spinal cords, lungs, etc.
To say that they just came into existance like that is retarded, to say the least.
Originally posted by Xexima I don't see how people cannot make the connection between seafaring mammals and land mammals. They all have the same attributes, fins that contain the same type of bones as hands and feet do, spinal cords, lungs, etc.
To say that they just came into existance like that is retarded, to say the least.
Say that too outfkctrl's 13 year old son. He thinks the planet is only 10,000 years old. ( No offense! I just think your kid is...um.....interesting. Oo )
Makes me wonder... than what about the Dino's? ;D Man never lived with the Dino's, EVER. Only the during the ice age era did man evolve from ape's.
I bet their fossiles just "appeared" in the ground by some "god or goddess" for kicks and giggles. Yea..right. Lol.
I have an easy time believing evolution by looking just above my arse. I got a tail bone you see. A a dual cartilage/bone portrusion where a tail would start if I had one.
Either that or I'm the spawn of Satan. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Originally posted by Babbuun I have an easy time believing evolution by looking just above my arse. I got a tail bone you see. A a dual cartilage/bone portrusion where a tail would start if I had one.
Either that or I'm the spawn of Satan. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Originally posted by Babbuun I have an easy time believing evolution by looking just above my arse. I got a tail bone you see. A a dual cartilage/bone portrusion where a tail would start if I had one.
Either that or I'm the spawn of Satan. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Don't get me wrong, I'm a firm supporter of Evolution. But your tailbone isn't much proof on its own.
Remove the tailbone in the human body, and the muscles that stop you from crapping your pants every hour or so have nothing to attach to
Back on topic, its interesting some of the things one finds when you look closely.
For example, a human fetus in the early stages of development has a fishlike tail and gills. There is no logical reason for this to be that way, except as a throwback to earlier genetic lifeforms.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
I really don't see why evoluton ITSELF is controversal, it's just human evolution that's such a hot potato topic. I find it easy to support evolution and yes still be spritual, seeing as how I view evolution to simply be the will of nature to make alterations to life or allow life itself to choose when to make alterations.
Nice little nugget there, reav.
I think it's the objective of your past self to make you cringe.
"...has an extra set of fins that could be the remains of back legs..."
Since when is a dolphin with a deformity proof of evolution?
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Originally posted by Finwe "...has an extra set of fins that could be the remains of back legs..." Since when is a dolphin with a deformity proof of evolution?
When the deformity happens as a result of suppressed genes from back in the evolutionary cycle.
Most deformities of the ordinary kind involve body parts that the creature ALREADY has, just in the wrong place, or twisted out of shape.
For the stubs of limbs that a creature does not have already to form from randomly combined genes is highly unlikely, the proverbial monkeys on the typewriters will write shakespeare first.
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Originally posted by Aelfinn Originally posted by Babbuun I have an easy time believing evolution by looking just above my arse. I got a tail bone you see. A a dual cartilage/bone portrusion where a tail would start if I had one.
Either that or I'm the spawn of Satan. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Don't get me wrong, I'm a firm supporter of Evolution. But your tailbone isn't much proof on its own.
Remove the tailbone in the human body, and the muscles that stop you from crapping your pants every hour or so have nothing to attach to
Back on topic, its interesting some of the things one finds when you look closely.
For example, a human fetus in the early stages of development has a fishlike tail and gills. There is no logical reason for this to be that way, except as a throwback to earlier genetic lifeforms.
Can't believe I was so stupid as to call it a tailbone.
No it's not the tailbone, it's a "tail bone". It's an actual sizeable "mutation" protruding from the top of my tailbone(2 spherelike shapes of the same size, about the size of marbles).
Originally posted by reavo Japanese researchers find dolphin with 'remains of legs' Why do stories like this never seem to get through to the anti-evolutionists? I mean, it's a dolphin with the reamains of back legs! That means something. And it also means something that scientists have said that dolphins are animals that returned to the water as shown through the fossil records. Of course there are going to be some reminants of those traits in the DNA that will show itself from time to time. Sometimes babies are even born with tails.
I almost made this topic myself last night, I found it laughable that they are calling those things legs.
This proves NOTHING, if you have seen the pictures of the Dolphin, then you know that what they mean by legs, is an extra set of fins towards the back of the Dolphin. If that is proof of evolution, that a Dolphin has an extra set of fins, then so be it. My guess is that there is either an extinct, or existing species of Dolphin that we havn't discovered that has those extra fins, and that this Dolphin was either a freak case, or one of those varieties...any research with Dolphin DNA could show that those fins are simply an example of latent DNA becoming more prevelant in a particular species of Dolphin...I defy anyone to say that they saw those fins on the back of this Dolphin and thought "hey those look like legs" They are simply an extra set of fins, nothing more.
It's okay though, most of you will probably say that I'm just in denial...I prefer to call it common sense coupled with a knowledge of how DNA works.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Originally posted by Finwe "...has an extra set of fins that could be the remains of back legs..." Since when is a dolphin with a deformity proof of evolution?
exactly...They are truly grasping at straws with this one.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Originally posted by Xexima I don't see how people cannot make the connection between seafaring mammals and land mammals. They all have the same attributes, fins that contain the same type of bones as hands and feet do, spinal cords, lungs, etc.
To say that they just came into existance like that is retarded, to say the least.
Say that too outfkctrl's 13 year old son. He thinks the planet is only 10,000 years old. ( No offense! I just think your kid is...um.....interesting. Oo )
Makes me wonder... than what about the Dino's? ;D Man never lived with the Dino's, EVER. Only the during the ice age era did man evolve from ape's.
I bet their fossiles just "appeared" in the ground by some "god or goddess" for kicks and giggles. Yea..right. Lol.
The most accurate form of prehistoric dating (Carbon 14) dates things within a few thousand years of their origin, and dates the oldest rocks at about 10,000 years old...so no, his son isn't crazy, he has simply done more research than you.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Originally posted by Draenor Originally posted by Finwe "...has an extra set of fins that could be the remains of back legs..." Since when is a dolphin with a deformity proof of evolution?
exactly...They are truly grasping at straws with this one. But believing in a white haired man living in the clouds, snapping his fingers and creating life out of nothing isn't grasping at thin air?
Originally posted by Finwe "...has an extra set of fins that could be the remains of back legs..." Since when is a dolphin with a deformity proof of evolution?
exactly...They are truly grasping at straws with this one. But believing in a white haired man living in the clouds, snapping his fingers and creating life out of nothing isn't grasping at thin air?
Who said he is white haired and living in the clouds?
I never claimed to be able to back up my belief in God with scientific proof, that is the difference, these people claim that they are doing things in a scientific manner and coming to rational conclusions that fit the evidence, which simply isn't true, too much of evolution theory ignores the facts in favor of the idea that the Earth is billions of years old, etc etc.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Originally posted by Finwe "...has an extra set of fins that could be the remains of back legs..." Since when is a dolphin with a deformity proof of evolution?
exactly...They are truly grasping at straws with this one. But believing in a white haired man living in the clouds, snapping his fingers and creating life out of nothing isn't grasping at thin air?
They also choose to ignore other things that prove evolution to be right.
Originally posted by Finwe "...has an extra set of fins that could be the remains of back legs..." Since when is a dolphin with a deformity proof of evolution?
exactly...They are truly grasping at straws with this one. But believing in a white haired man living in the clouds, snapping his fingers and creating life out of nothing isn't grasping at thin air?
They also choose to ignore other things that prove evolution to be right. I ignore bad science claiming to be science. I ignore conjectures and theories put forth using minimal evidence...People like Stephen Hawking, who claim that their radical ideas to be fact, when they are actually basing their opinions on minimal evidence, while ignoring any evidence that points to the contrary. I do not deny that there is SOME evidence that would point us towards evolutionary theory if we do not choose to dig any deeper, but the fact is, I have done more probing on this topic than most people, and the conclusion that I have come to is that evolutionary science isn't science at all...and that a belief in Jesus involves no more faith than a belief that we all evolved from aquatic animals, apes, or single celled organisms....Evolution has never been proven to be right, it will never be proven to be right...because evolutionists refuse to use proper dating techniques on anything that they consider to be older than 30,000 years, instead they use things like radio argon dating, which gives an accurate year within 150 MILLION years...now, how is that for scientific accuracy?
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Science uses the best information that is available to makes use until more information is available. Evolution can't be proven 100% correct but its the MOST correct theory that is available now.
Originally posted by Kootur Science uses the best information that is available to makes use until more information is available. Evolution can't be proven 100% correct but its the MOST correct theory that is available now.
Science uses dating techniques accurate within 150 million years...science refuses to use the most accurate form of dating possible on anything that they think is over 30,000 years old, in fear that it will prove them wrong...because they have a preconcieved notion that the Earth is billions of years old, and refuse to compromise that position in favor of more accurate testing. Did you know that when Dinosaur bones were first discovered, they were dated at just under 10,000 years old. But the people dating them threw those results out and begun to try other dating forms, until they finaly got the millions of years that they desired. And all dinosaur bones since then have been dated at around 10,000 years...while other dating methods range from 65 million, to 300 million years old...THAT is not good science.How is THAT for using the best information available? I really shouldn't even need to debate this, as Finwe said, a dolphin with a genetic deformity, or sublatent DNA becoming active DNA, is hardly proof of evolution...and nobody can rationally debate that.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Originally posted by Draenor Originally posted by Kootur Science uses the best information that is available to makes use until more information is available. Evolution can't be proven 100% correct but its the MOST correct theory that is available now.
Science uses dating techniques accurate within 150 million years...science refuses to use the most accurate form of dating possible on anything that they think is over 30,000 years old, in fear that it will prove them wrong...because they have a preconcieved notion that the Earth is billions of years old, and refuse to compromise that position in favor of more accurate testing, how is THAT for using the best information available? I really shouldn't even need to debate this, as Finwe said, a dolphin with a genetic deformity, or sublatent DNA becoming active DNA, is hardly proof of evolution...and nobody can rationally debate that. While I don't disagree with what you're saying, I just refuse to believe that every single scientist in the whole world refuses to use proper dating techniques. If it was as simple as you say it is, I'm sure at least one scientist would blow the lid off this whole conspiracy and prove the world isn't nearly as old as we think it is.
But in our current situation, the only article you pulled supporting this theory was ridden with Bible verses, showing a much clearer slant than a scientific article.
So if this 10000 year old thing is so simple, please link me to some articles. I'd be interested to read them.
Originally posted by Kootur Have any proof of those claims ?
I've posted various articles detailing what I'm talking about...like Modjoe said, the only people that tend to be admitting to this stuff, are the ones that want to shed light on the flaws of evolution, namely Christians...I'll go pull up a few of the other articles, I'll try to find one that people will consider non biased...because appearently having a bible verse in there creates bias
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
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To say that they just came into existance like that is retarded, to say the least.
Makes me wonder... than what about the Dino's? ;D Man never lived with the Dino's, EVER. Only the during the ice age era did man evolve from ape's.
I bet their fossiles just "appeared" in the ground by some "god or goddess" for kicks and giggles. Yea..right. Lol.
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I have an easy time believing evolution by looking just above my arse. I got a tail bone you see. A a dual cartilage/bone portrusion where a tail would start if I had one.
Either that or I'm the spawn of Satan. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Don't get me wrong, I'm a firm supporter of Evolution. But your tailbone isn't much proof on its own.
Remove the tailbone in the human body, and the muscles that stop you from crapping your pants every hour or so have nothing to attach to
Back on topic, its interesting some of the things one finds when you look closely.
For example, a human fetus in the early stages of development has a fishlike tail and gills. There is no logical reason for this to be that way, except as a throwback to earlier genetic lifeforms.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
I really don't see why evoluton ITSELF is controversal, it's just human evolution that's such a hot potato topic. I find it easy to support evolution and yes still be spritual, seeing as how I view evolution to simply be the will of nature to make alterations to life or allow life itself to choose when to make alterations.
Nice little nugget there, reav.
I think it's the objective of your past self to make you cringe.
"...has an extra set of fins that could be the remains of back legs..."
Since when is a dolphin with a deformity proof of evolution?
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
When the deformity happens as a result of suppressed genes from back in the evolutionary cycle.
Most deformities of the ordinary kind involve body parts that the creature ALREADY has, just in the wrong place, or twisted out of shape.
For the stubs of limbs that a creature does not have already to form from randomly combined genes is highly unlikely, the proverbial monkeys on the typewriters will write shakespeare first.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Don't get me wrong, I'm a firm supporter of Evolution. But your tailbone isn't much proof on its own.
Remove the tailbone in the human body, and the muscles that stop you from crapping your pants every hour or so have nothing to attach to
Back on topic, its interesting some of the things one finds when you look closely.
For example, a human fetus in the early stages of development has a fishlike tail and gills. There is no logical reason for this to be that way, except as a throwback to earlier genetic lifeforms.
Can't believe I was so stupid as to call it a tailbone.
No it's not the tailbone, it's a "tail bone". It's an actual sizeable "mutation" protruding from the top of my tailbone(2 spherelike shapes of the same size, about the size of marbles).
I almost made this topic myself last night, I found it laughable that they are calling those things legs.
This proves NOTHING, if you have seen the pictures of the Dolphin, then you know that what they mean by legs, is an extra set of fins towards the back of the Dolphin. If that is proof of evolution, that a Dolphin has an extra set of fins, then so be it. My guess is that there is either an extinct, or existing species of Dolphin that we havn't discovered that has those extra fins, and that this Dolphin was either a freak case, or one of those varieties...any research with Dolphin DNA could show that those fins are simply an example of latent DNA becoming more prevelant in a particular species of Dolphin...I defy anyone to say that they saw those fins on the back of this Dolphin and thought "hey those look like legs" They are simply an extra set of fins, nothing more.
It's okay though, most of you will probably say that I'm just in denial...I prefer to call it common sense coupled with a knowledge of how DNA works.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Makes me wonder... than what about the Dino's? ;D Man never lived with the Dino's, EVER. Only the during the ice age era did man evolve from ape's.
I bet their fossiles just "appeared" in the ground by some "god or goddess" for kicks and giggles. Yea..right. Lol.
The most accurate form of prehistoric dating (Carbon 14) dates things within a few thousand years of their origin, and dates the oldest rocks at about 10,000 years old...so no, his son isn't crazy, he has simply done more research than you.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
But believing in a white haired man living in the clouds, snapping his
fingers and creating life out of nothing isn't grasping at thin air?
Maybe this had something to do with evolution or maybe not.
Evolution has been proven valid in other times I doubt this will change anyone mind who doesn't want to have it changed due to certain reasons.
But believing in a white haired man living in the clouds, snapping his fingers and creating life out of nothing isn't grasping at thin air?
Who said he is white haired and living in the clouds?
I never claimed to be able to back up my belief in God with scientific proof, that is the difference, these people claim that they are doing things in a scientific manner and coming to rational conclusions that fit the evidence, which simply isn't true, too much of evolution theory ignores the facts in favor of the idea that the Earth is billions of years old, etc etc.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
But believing in a white haired man living in the clouds, snapping his fingers and creating life out of nothing isn't grasping at thin air?
They also choose to ignore other things that prove evolution to be right.
But believing in a white haired man living in the clouds, snapping his fingers and creating life out of nothing isn't grasping at thin air?
They also choose to ignore other things that prove evolution to be right.
I ignore bad science claiming to be science. I ignore conjectures and theories put forth using minimal evidence...People like Stephen Hawking, who claim that their radical ideas to be fact, when they are actually basing their opinions on minimal evidence, while ignoring any evidence that points to the contrary. I do not deny that there is SOME evidence that would point us towards evolutionary theory if we do not choose to dig any deeper, but the fact is, I have done more probing on this topic than most people, and the conclusion that I have come to is that evolutionary science isn't science at all...and that a belief in Jesus involves no more faith than a belief that we all evolved from aquatic animals, apes, or single celled organisms....Evolution has never been proven to be right, it will never be proven to be right...because evolutionists refuse to use proper dating techniques on anything that they consider to be older than 30,000 years, instead they use things like radio argon dating, which gives an accurate year within 150 MILLION years...now, how is that for scientific accuracy?
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
While I don't disagree with what you're saying, I just refuse to believe that every single scientist in the whole world refuses to use proper dating techniques. If it was as simple as you say it is, I'm sure at least one scientist would blow the lid off this whole conspiracy and prove the world isn't nearly as old as we think it is.
But in our current situation, the only article you pulled supporting this theory was ridden with Bible verses, showing a much clearer slant than a scientific article.
So if this 10000 year old thing is so simple, please link me to some articles. I'd be interested to read them.
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Have any proof of those claims ?
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.