Another tiny shread of the former game being talked about for development? Are they so stupid? If they want to maintain, then they should get to fixing bugs. If they want to grow the game, then they should get to scrapping everything from CU onward.
Next they'll start to talk about adding in more professions from the real SWG and allowing players to mix and match them!
Originally posted by KillerJimmy Another tiny shread of the former game being talked about for development? Are they so stupid? If they want to maintain, then they should get to fixing bugs. If they want to grow the game, then they should get to scrapping everything from CU onward. Next they'll start to talk about adding in more professions from the real SWG and allowing players to mix and match them!
And if you scrap everthing from the CU onward, you still have to rebuild broken systems, balance the game, etc...
I'm not fond of them taking stuff out and then re-inventing the wheel (sometimes for the inferior), but if they scrap everything there will still be some form of rebuilding...the game will take another 6-12 months to get to where it should be to grow.
Although I need more specific info in how this all will work. It is a very ncie concept, and I would return if and when it is impemented. The other ideas are good as well.
Interesting, I see hes proposing mutating juvenile creatures (already alive) as the process applies to the Teen Age Mutant Ninja Turtles, as opposed to what the term means as it applies to Evolution (or genetic engineering). It must be a demographic thing.
To prevent confusion, we would call this new version Beast Mastery and Genetic Engineering. This is a brainstorming concept document. Implementation or scheduling is neither guaranteed nor implied. This is simply a "Request For Comments".
Also the pets have no value and more or less this is ANOTHER BASTARDIZED VERSION OF WHAT WAS BETTER.
With all this effort and time, they need to just let it go now. For months they tell you things then they realize they need to apply damage control, what does this do? Other then years out-- end up as all bantha fodder.
This this moronic statement by a customer:
"Great News how long have yall been working with this idea? "
Which now explains the level of gamer that they have. This person thinks this is a new idea.....he really does.
See this is your expansion.... here it is, a bastardized version of: XXXXXXXXX enjoy ---
Helios is more or less a complete tool and almost the worst developer I have ever seen in the software industry actually.
1 year later and this is a topic. Outstanding Helios... you win all the interwebs....
What a smuck.... (See they need somthing new to hold people longer) --- Jedi did it for the NGE, now it's going to be CH ---lol how original.
LOL HELLO MY NAME IS HELIOS HERE IS A CARROT-- IRONIC IT IS AT ALMOST THE EXACT ONE YEAR MARK OF THEM SCREWING PEOPLE OVER...
Yep all about the timing...
Next it will be --- "stay tuned we may have a server option for you". -- And the lemmings will get right in line to jump of the cliff with him.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Originally posted by Kehn Interesting, I see hes proposing mutating juvenile creatures (already alive) as the process applies to the Teen Age Mutant Ninja Turtles, as opposed to what the term means as it applies to Evolution (or genetic engineering). It must be a demographic thing.
HAHAHAH YOUR ICON Picture lololol -- omg its that guy...
The end of the world..................................of warcraft.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Yeah right, It sounds good, but im not buying it in all for the world
And this FREAKING bullshit, When he said that it was "impossible" since the new code didnt match or something. Thats the spot where i didnt belive a thing about this.
This is just some "After one year bla bla, please stay we "maby" put this in.
gosh...
Starwars Galaxies, An Empier Diveded, That's what it says on my box anyway.
I'm sure it'll happen right around the time they get the Ranger revamp done.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
What an absolute joke. Im not sure which is worse...SOE going back to their tired trick of making empty promises that they won't ever get around to doing...or gullible players pretending (again) that its going to happen. Absolutely revolting.
Originally posted by Shayde I'm sure it'll happen right around the time they get the Ranger revamp done.
You may be right. They could be just blowing smoke. I think they are solid concepts, however. Whether or not they can and will deliver is doubtfull at this point.
Creature handler was the first profession revealed out of beta about star wars galaxies. The skill system for that profession was shown on the site prior to the games release. At one point prior to its nerf it was the most popular profession.
They promised certain things that would make the nge appealing. True collision detection, bug fixes and content. At this point I have given up that this version will ever be appealing. I said in my review the nge could be a good game. I still dont see anything that would make the core mechanics of the nge more appealing then the previous version. I appreciate CH and how fun that it was to play as I was a CH at one point in the game.
What is the plan to fix everything else? When is crafting going to be addressed? How about decay? This is a real baby step if it ever happens.
I agree, to little to late. All i have to do is remember the TOOW expansion and the promises of the item in it and 2 weeks later that item and my profession were taken out.
Star Wars Galaxies has turned into a training program for new game designers and software coders. I simply cannot see any other possible explanation that would account for the fact that they are swiftly going backwards in time.
Why not save everybody the bloody time and expense, and just put the original game back on the servers? I mean, really, why not? What would they be giving up, except a crappy UI?
It never ceases to amaze me that people still buy there crap and get all excited i mean look at the posts on there lol congrats devs? this looks cool? Theres actual people who still think there gonna lift a finger on a keyboard and creat this lol. Let me guess to SOE is proud to anounce its 2 new profestions beastmaster and chemist engineer. These 2 NEW professions are totally new and we ask u give them a try lol. Talk about rehash city. What i would pay for everyone to catch on to end this bs i swear. Whos more foolish the fool or the fool that follows the fool?
Originally posted by dontchathere It never ceases to amaze me that people still buy there crap and get all excited i mean look at the posts on there lol congrats devs? this looks cool? Theres actual people who still think there gonna lift a finger on a keyboard and creat this lol. Let me guess to SOE is proud to anounce its 2 new profestions beastmaster and chemist engineer. These 2 NEW professions are totally new and we ask u give them a try lol. Talk about rehash city. What i would pay for everyone to catch on to end this bs i swear. Whos more foolish the fool or the fool that follows the fool?
Well, I mean, if their still paying for the silly game, I guess they will take any excuse to justify it.
Still, we were all duped by the Devs at one point when we played. I just feel sorry for the current playerbase.
They begin by stating CH and Bio Eng' will never return. Yet, they're doing just that but with a difference coating. The part about raising them and teaching the pets new tricks is nothing new. They're only changing the names around thinking that by doing this, people will be fooled into thinking it's a new" brainstorm" as they put it.
It never ceases to amaze ex-players just how patheic SoE is.
it sounds as if they are testing the waters so to speak with regards to what people liked about the old system, and if it is something they can bring back.. Of course by calling it something completely different than what it was called pre nge they will claim that Creature handler / bio engineer "is not coming back".. In essence (semantics) they are correct.. Its another way for them to save face by bringing something back (and by their own numbers it was less than 1% of the professions people played) and calling it something different so they can maintain the pre nge will never come back.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quaks like a duck... Its the Devs seeing the last remnants of their careers going down the toilet and are desperate enough to grab at anything to keep them afloat...
This is the part that irritates the crap out of me...
Whether its Pre CU, CU or NGE... Had they been allowed to fix all the crap in the first place.. We wouldnt be in this position... The past is 20/20 I know, its just sad they destroyed a game that was so full of potential it makes me sick...By the time they are donw with this version of SWG, no one will care any more when the new state of the art games are released...
They had their Chances, and they blew them all...Its time to take the dog out back, tie him to the tree and load the shot gun.
Man I wish they would of just quit reinventing the wheel.
Xcathdra
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars.. Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons... Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
Originally posted by Xcathdra it sounds as if they are testing the waters so to speak with regards to what people liked about the old system, and if it is something they can bring back.. Of course by calling it something completely different than what it was called pre nge they will claim that Creature handler / bio engineer "is not coming back".. In essence (semantics) they are correct.. Its another way for them to save face by bringing something back (and by their own numbers it was less than 1% of the professions people played) and calling it something different so they can maintain the pre nge will never come back. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quaks like a duck... Its the Devs seeing the last remnants of their careers going down the toilet and are desperate enough to grab at anything to keep them afloat... This is the part that irritates the crap out of me... Whether its Pre CU, CU or NGE... Had they been allowed to fix all the crap in the first place.. We wouldnt be in this position... The past is 20/20 I know, its just sad they destroyed a game that was so full of potential it makes me sick...By the time they are donw with this version of SWG, no one will care any more when the new state of the art games are released... They had their Chances, and they blew them all...Its time to take the dog out back, tie him to the tree and load the shot gun. Man I wish they would of just quit reinventing the wheel.
Xcathdra
Actually, for the longest time (beginning of the year or so) many of the devs (including Smed) ahd been saying that they hope to bring back CH.
I know Smed made the comment during one of his uber damage control posts.. I do remember the Devs stating it was not coming back, and was not on their radar screen... If its coming back cool.. The problem is though everytime they reincarnate something from days gone bye, the more they shoot themselves in the foot with thier arguments about the direction the NGE is going..
If the old system(either version) never worked and was not what the majority of players wanted, why do they keep bringing the stiuff back? Seems destructive to me.. Had they had a solid plan from day 1, we would most likely enjoy playing a complex, indeopth, rich in content game living up to the expectations of all starwars fanatics..
The other part I find humerous is the comment by Ms. Macyntire (sp) about players not wanting to read a lot.. If this was true people would be playing the game more, and spending less and less time in the forums..... reading.
Xcathdra
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars.. Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons... Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
Oh i remember seeing loads of beastmasters in starwars ,Helios your getting desperate ,ur arse cheaks are starting to twitch and your starting to sweat.I am suprised he didnt say you can loot cool new eggs and hatch cool new creatures and you can become coooooool my god this bloke is a
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Another tiny shread of the former game being talked about for development? Are they so stupid? If they want to maintain, then they should get to fixing bugs. If they want to grow the game, then they should get to scrapping everything from CU onward.
Next they'll start to talk about adding in more professions from the real SWG and allowing players to mix and match them!
I'm not fond of them taking stuff out and then re-inventing the wheel (sometimes for the inferior), but if they scrap everything there will still be some form of rebuilding...the game will take another 6-12 months to get to where it should be to grow.
Interesting, I see hes proposing mutating juvenile creatures (already alive) as the process applies to the Teen Age Mutant Ninja Turtles, as opposed to what the term means as it applies to Evolution (or genetic engineering). It must be a demographic thing.
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To prevent confusion, we would call this new version Beast Mastery and Genetic Engineering. This is a brainstorming concept document. Implementation or scheduling is neither guaranteed nor implied. This is simply a "Request For Comments".
Also the pets have no value and more or less this is ANOTHER BASTARDIZED VERSION OF WHAT WAS BETTER.
With all this effort and time, they need to just let it go now. For months they tell you things then they realize they need to apply damage control, what does this do? Other then years out-- end up as all bantha fodder.
This this moronic statement by a customer:
"Great News how long have yall been working with this idea? "
Which now explains the level of gamer that they have. This person thinks this is a new idea.....he really does.
See this is your expansion.... here it is, a bastardized version of: XXXXXXXXX enjoy ---
Helios is more or less a complete tool and almost the worst developer I have ever seen in the software industry actually.
1 year later and this is a topic. Outstanding Helios... you win all the interwebs....
What a smuck.... (See they need somthing new to hold people longer) --- Jedi did it for the NGE, now it's going to be CH ---lol how original.
LOL HELLO MY NAME IS HELIOS HERE IS A CARROT-- IRONIC IT IS AT ALMOST THE EXACT ONE YEAR MARK OF THEM SCREWING PEOPLE OVER...
Yep all about the timing...
Next it will be --- "stay tuned we may have a server option for you". -- And the lemmings will get right in line to jump of the cliff with him.
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
HAHAHAH YOUR ICON Picture lololol -- omg its that guy...
The end of the world..................................of warcraft.
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Whatever...
When's the return of SWG?
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
NGE Refugee.
Yeah right, It sounds good, but im not buying it in all for the world
And this FREAKING bullshit, When he said that it was "impossible" since the new code didnt match or something. Thats the spot where i didnt belive a thing about this.
This is just some "After one year bla bla, please stay we "maby" put this in.
gosh...
Starwars Galaxies, An Empier Diveded, That's what it says on my box anyway.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Some interesting dyi.
Creature handler was the first profession revealed out of beta about star wars galaxies. The skill system for that profession was shown on the site prior to the games release. At one point prior to its nerf it was the most popular profession.
They promised certain things that would make the nge appealing. True collision detection, bug fixes and content. At this point I have given up that this version will ever be appealing. I said in my review the nge could be a good game. I still dont see anything that would make the core mechanics of the nge more appealing then the previous version. I appreciate CH and how fun that it was to play as I was a CH at one point in the game.
What is the plan to fix everything else? When is crafting going to be addressed? How about decay? This is a real baby step if it ever happens.
In my opinion its way to little way to late.
- 55 different pets
- Stored in eggs that are looted from stormtroopers
and...
- Gotta catch them all
The real question here is:
Will there be enough particle effects.
I just looked at the thread.
They really do come from the eggs. This is starting to border on the absurd.
Think of the craziest, most nonsensical thing, and bet all money that they really will develop it.
Star Wars Galaxies has turned into a training program for new game designers and software coders. I simply cannot see any other possible explanation that would account for the fact that they are swiftly going backwards in time.
Why not save everybody the bloody time and expense, and just put the original game back on the servers? I mean, really, why not? What would they be giving up, except a crappy UI?
Still, we were all duped by the Devs at one point when we played. I just feel sorry for the current playerbase.
NGE Refugee.
Incredible, isn't it?
They begin by stating CH and Bio Eng' will never return. Yet, they're doing just that but with a difference coating. The part about raising them and teaching the pets new tricks is nothing new. They're only changing the names around thinking that by doing this, people will be fooled into thinking it's a new" brainstorm" as they put it.
It never ceases to amaze ex-players just how patheic SoE is.
it sounds as if they are testing the waters so to speak with regards to what people liked about the old system, and if it is something they can bring back.. Of course by calling it something completely different than what it was called pre nge they will claim that Creature handler / bio engineer "is not coming back".. In essence (semantics) they are correct.. Its another way for them to save face by bringing something back (and by their own numbers it was less than 1% of the professions people played) and calling it something different so they can maintain the pre nge will never come back.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quaks like a duck... Its the Devs seeing the last remnants of their careers going down the toilet and are desperate enough to grab at anything to keep them afloat...
This is the part that irritates the crap out of me...
Whether its Pre CU, CU or NGE... Had they been allowed to fix all the crap in the first place.. We wouldnt be in this position... The past is 20/20 I know, its just sad they destroyed a game that was so full of potential it makes me sick...By the time they are donw with this version of SWG, no one will care any more when the new state of the art games are released...
They had their Chances, and they blew them all...Its time to take the dog out back, tie him to the tree and load the shot gun.
Man I wish they would of just quit reinventing the wheel.
Xcathdra
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
I know Smed made the comment during one of his uber damage control posts.. I do remember the Devs stating it was not coming back, and was not on their radar screen... If its coming back cool.. The problem is though everytime they reincarnate something from days gone bye, the more they shoot themselves in the foot with thier arguments about the direction the NGE is going..
If the old system(either version) never worked and was not what the majority of players wanted, why do they keep bringing the stiuff back? Seems destructive to me.. Had they had a solid plan from day 1, we would most likely enjoy playing a complex, indeopth, rich in content game living up to the expectations of all starwars fanatics..
The other part I find humerous is the comment by Ms. Macyntire (sp) about players not wanting to read a lot.. If this was true people would be playing the game more, and spending less and less time in the forums..... reading.
Xcathdra
Having access to a billion $ IP - Billions of dollars..
Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.
Oh i remember seeing loads of beastmasters in starwars ,Helios your getting desperate ,ur arse cheaks are starting to twitch and your starting to sweat.I am suprised he didnt say you can loot cool new eggs and hatch cool new creatures and you can become coooooool my god this bloke is a
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