All i got from that was the people at Bioware think WoW is awesome and want to build another game that leads people along a set path with a poor crafting system that is meant to create a player economy and probably an equally poor class setup.... thats just how i read that
we will do that will will do this oh I dont like WOW oh we all play WOW. Story will be nice Someone kill a red dragon hey yupiii I am a dragon killer but others can kill it too. Whats the difference here I dont get it.
COme back 3 years later when thing get more clear.
Originally posted by XApotheosisX help us Raph Koster .. you're our only hope. said it once and ill say it again .... WoW is the WORST thing that could have happened to the MMO industry. the Simplicity of the game is going to set back the MMO genre a long way.
I disagree. Not about the simplicity, because wow is the most overly simplistic game to hit since... well.. diablo 2 .
Blizzard does 2 things very very well. First they are very good at adding a layer of polish on things done before that other developers are either unable to do (because of publisher constraints or lack of ability) or do not want to do. Secondly they take what others have done, break it down into its most simple elements and cut the complexity out, and make it their own system.
Where I disagree is about it being the worst thing that could have happened. I think that Wow's simplistic approach has done a great deal for making mmo games more mainstream in western culture. ALOT of people in wow get bored to tears because they are sick of raiding 4 or 5 nights a week 4 or 5 hours per raid. There is another large part of the population of WoW that never raid, they have never seen the end of molten core or nefarian in bwl let alone aq40 or naxx. Blizzard even realized this why else do you think there is one 20 man encounter in Burning Crusade and everything else is 5 or 10 man instances?
Back on point, Blizzard has brought in alot of new people that arent total noobs anymore. They know the basic ideas of mmo gameplay now. They understand what is meant by tanking, dps, healing, pulling, crowd control and other key elements of group/raid dynamics. Imagine how popular SWG could be today if it were just released in a pre hologrind state.
Sure, for a time people like turbine will churn out a couple wow-ish games, with all the simplicity and none of the polish. People will try em and move on. But the occasional gem will appear, will it be Bioware's mmo? I would like to think so. Could it be Age of Conan, Pirates of the Burning Sea, Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning? Very possibly. I think that wow has done alot of good for the house that Ultima Online built and I look forward to seeing what the future has in store for us.
An interesting read to be sure, however, the lack of player guildhouses and structures really disappointed me alot. On the other hand, Bioware is notorious concerning their story-lines and the quality of it so I'm looking forward to that. But.... no player structures!!??
Originally posted by zipit An interesting read to be sure, however, the lack of player guildhouses and structures really disappointed me alot. On the other hand, Bioware is notorious concerning their story-lines and the quality of it so I'm looking forward to that. But.... no player structures!!??but player structures aren't smedsy or wowconic....
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Nothing to see here move along move along,
we will do that will will do this oh I dont like WOW oh we all play WOW. Story will be nice Someone kill a red dragon hey yupiii I am a dragon killer but others can kill it too. Whats the difference here I dont get it.
COme back 3 years later when thing get more clear.
Move along move along
Blizzard does 2 things very very well. First they are very good at adding a layer of polish on things done before that other developers are either unable to do (because of publisher constraints or lack of ability) or do not want to do. Secondly they take what others have done, break it down into its most simple elements and cut the complexity out, and make it their own system.
Where I disagree is about it being the worst thing that could have happened. I think that Wow's simplistic approach has done a great deal for making mmo games more mainstream in western culture. ALOT of people in wow get bored to tears because they are sick of raiding 4 or 5 nights a week 4 or 5 hours per raid. There is another large part of the population of WoW that never raid, they have never seen the end of molten core or nefarian in bwl let alone aq40 or naxx. Blizzard even realized this why else do you think there is one 20 man encounter in Burning Crusade and everything else is 5 or 10 man instances?
Back on point, Blizzard has brought in alot of new people that arent total noobs anymore. They know the basic ideas of mmo gameplay now. They understand what is meant by tanking, dps, healing, pulling, crowd control and other key elements of group/raid dynamics. Imagine how popular SWG could be today if it were just released in a pre hologrind state.
Sure, for a time people like turbine will churn out a couple wow-ish games, with all the simplicity and none of the polish. People will try em and move on. But the occasional gem will appear, will it be Bioware's mmo? I would like to think so. Could it be Age of Conan, Pirates of the Burning Sea, Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning? Very possibly. I think that wow has done alot of good for the house that Ultima Online built and I look forward to seeing what the future has in store for us.
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An interesting read to be sure, however, the lack of player guildhouses and structures really disappointed me alot
. On the other hand, Bioware is notorious concerning their story-lines and the quality of it so I'm looking forward to that. But.... no player structures!!??