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Time machine will never exist.

LaunvatarLaunvatar Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 127

I got an idea when I was dreaming today in my Law lesson at University.

Humanity will never invent time machine.

If it was possible, someone from future would already have visited us by now ! :)

 

DAMN ! isn't it true ?!

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Rolling On The Floor Laughing Too Hard To Stop And Scaring The Cat, Meanwhile My Mom Walked In And Thought I Had Eaten Poisonous Mushrooms And She Called The Paramedics And They Took Me Too Mad House And All Of This Is Your Fault You Stupid Fathead Piece Of **** With Your Lame Jokes That Make Me Laugh This Much You Bastard

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  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087



    Originally posted by Launvatar

    I got an idea when I was dreaming today in my Law lesson at University.
    Humanity will never invent time machine.
    If it was possible, someone from future would already have visited us by now ! :)
     
    DAMN ! isn't it true ?!



    Who says they didnt?  image

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182



    Originally posted by LordSlater



    Originally posted by Launvatar

    I got an idea when I was dreaming today in my Law lesson at University.
    Humanity will never invent time machine.
    If it was possible, someone from future would already have visited us by now ! :)
     
    DAMN ! isn't it true ?!


    Who says they didnt?  image


    Take a look at todays MMO's. Why would they come back here? image
  • starman999starman999 Member Posts: 1,232

    I agree with slater.....

    How would we know if someone did? They couldnt come out and say they came from the future. They would be locked away for life in a mental institiute and the governmet would snatch the machine and kill everyone who knew anything about it. This is the same reason that "we have never encountered aliens" and "area 51 does not exist" even though we know damn well it does.

    Shit... gotta go...... black helicopters outside my apartment..... cant let em get me yet....

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  • busdriverbusdriver Member Posts: 859

    McDonald's killed all dinosaurs. Guess what we are eating now?

  • UploadUpload Member Posts: 679
    They have theories about time machines. One of them is when you go fast enough, you are able to go back in time. Unfortunately, we as humans can't survive this dramatically speed, because it is THAT fast you will burn or implode.image
  • LaunvatarLaunvatar Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 127

    Yeah we encountered aliens so there's rumors about it at least.

    I believe if humanity had encountered future-people there would be at least rumor. It's not really "that" possible to hide such things. As they couldn't aliens.

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  • Rikimaru_XRikimaru_X Member UncommonPosts: 11,718
    I made a time machine already. I can go 8 seconds into the future. Let me activate it, be right back.


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  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Launvatar
    I got an idea when I was dreaming today in my Law lesson at University.
    Humanity will never invent time machine.
    If it was possible, someone from future would already have visited us by now ! :)
     
    DAMN ! isn't it true ?!

    According to Einstein it is very possible. M-Theory would also seem to uphold that it's possible. Although that which already exists cannot unexist so therefore any change to the past would create a parralel timeline in an alternate dimension. So in essence we would never know if someone changed the past because the changes made would only effect the alternate dimension. Also while time travel should be possible interdimensional travel is another issue. So far M-theory would suggest it's possible but it doesn't suggest a mechanism to acheive it. In essence if you went back to change the past you'd be stuck in that newly created alternate reality unless your time machine was also a dimension jumper. But then i'd imagine you'd want to stay in the alternate reality so you could enjoy the changes you made. It would be like creating your own world.

  • PlanoMMPlanoMM Member Posts: 1,267



    Originally posted by Copeland




    Originally posted by Launvatar
    I got an idea when I was dreaming today in my Law lesson at University.
    Humanity will never invent time machine.
    If it was possible, someone from future would already have visited us by now ! :)
     
    DAMN ! isn't it true ?!


    According to Einstein it is very possible. M-Theory would also seem to uphold that it's possible. Although that which already exists cannot unexist so therefore any change to the past would create a parralel timeline in an alternate dimension. So in essence we would never know if someone changed the past because the changes made would only effect the alternate dimension. Also while time travel should be possible interdimensional travel is another issue. So far M-theory would suggest it's possible but it doesn't suggest a mechanism to acheive it. In essence if you went back to change the past you'd be stuck in that newly created alternate reality unless your time machine was also a dimension jumper. But then i'd imagine you'd want to stay in the alternate reality so you could enjoy the changes you made. It would be like creating your own world.


    wow, youve given alot of thought to this. lol

    sorry to burst the bubble tho, time travel will never be possible.  time is a man-made ideal.  it doesnt really exist.

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  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by PlanoMM

    Originally posted by Copeland


    Originally posted by LaunvatarI got an idea when I was dreaming today in my Law lesson at University.Humanity will never invent time machine.If it was possible, someone from future would already have visited us by now ! :) DAMN ! isn't it true ?!


    According to Einstein it is very possible. M-Theory would also seem to uphold that it's possible. Although that which already exists cannot unexist so therefore any change to the past would create a parralel timeline in an alternate dimension. So in essence we would never know if someone changed the past because the changes made would only effect the alternate dimension. Also while time travel should be possible interdimensional travel is another issue. So far M-theory would suggest it's possible but it doesn't suggest a mechanism to acheive it. In essence if you went back to change the past you'd be stuck in that newly created alternate reality unless your time machine was also a dimension jumper. But then i'd imagine you'd want to stay in the alternate reality so you could enjoy the changes you made. It would be like creating your own world.


    wow, youve given alot of thought to this. lol
    sorry to burst the bubble tho, time travel will never be possible.  time is a man-made ideal.  it doesnt really exist.

    No it's not. That's why Einstien is famous :P

    I haven't given alot of time to the theory of time travel i just like theoretical physics. It's a hobby much like games. Theoretical physics is the science of dreamers. It's plausible but not proven. In essence anything is possible.

  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    It's not even sure this is a "real" universe. So for all we know anything could be possible.


  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by MadAce
    It's not even sure this is a "real" universe. So for all we know anything could be possible.



    See thats not science. That's theology.

    Science is a system of observation and testing based on what is around us. All scientific law is derived from this. So whether this universe is real or not has absolutely nothing to with science and falls squarely in the realm of theology or as i like to call it delusional thinking.

  • TechleoTechleo Member Posts: 1,984

      Copeland makes a good point. Mind you it was also Einstien that said Philosophy is the key to portray the calculations of truth in a manner we can except. As such philosophy is the vehicle of expanding the general publics awarness of what is around it. In a manner they can grasp.

       Einstien was fully aware that Science and Philosophy were equally important vehicles for human development. Not only that often Philosophy was the source of the epiphanies we so desire. For our minds work best at there most creative moments. Moments which numbers and calculations rarely inspire so freely.
     

       Quote: Man will begin its exploration of the universe when it no longer looks outwards but inwards. For the expanse of the universe is merely a faint reflection of the complexities held within. image


      Oh and a note on temporal physics. Were already time travelers. Every object has its own relative time based upon its relations with the objects around it. Depending on its gravity, speed and various temporal mechanics a object can change its relative relation with the objects around it. Time travel doesnt need you so much to move faster or slower either. You could simply disrelate yourself in such a manner you move slower then the objects around yourself. Moving fast foward is quite possible. The opposite Im not so sure about. Im not sure moving backwards along a timeline is possible. This is primarily due to a fact that a object only occupies the same space once. Well at least according to the physics I adhere to.
     


  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Techleo

      Copeland makes a good point. Mind you it was also Einstien that said Philosophy is the key to portray the calculations of truth in a manner we can except. As such philosophy is the vehicle of expanding the general publics awarness of what is around it. In a manner they can grasp.

       Einstien was fully aware that Science and Philosophy were equally important vehicles for human development. Not only that often Philosophy was the source of the epiphanies we so desire. For our minds work best at there most creative moments. Moments which numbers and calculations rarely inspire so freely.
     

       Quote: Man will begin its exploration of the universe when it no longer looks outwards but inwards. For the expanse of the universe is merely a faint reflection of the complexities held within. image


      Oh and a note on temporal physics. Were already time travelers. Every object has its own relative time based upon its relations with the objects around it. Depending on its gravity, speed and various temporal mechanics a object can change its relative relation with the objects around it. Time travel doesnt need you so much to move faster or slower either. You could simply disrelate yourself in such a manner you move slower then the objects around yourself. Moving fast foward is quite possible. The opposite Im not so sure about. Im not sure moving backwards along a timeline is possible. This is primarily due to a fact that a object only occupies the same space once. Well at least according to the physics I adhere to.
     



    Einstein believed in god and therefore his opinions about how Theology and science are entwined are biased.

    I don't believe in god. God is not integral to science. There is no proof of god's imprint on nature. God is simply a theory. While some scientists believe in god and find that science is a work of god i do not. In fact some would point to god while i would point to the Chaotic Inflationary theory. Sure the number for the theory don't add up but they come alot closer than theology ever has.

    We are all temporal travelers but only via observation. Proven by the fact that as we gaze at the stars we see the past. However we cannot travel to the distant stars we as see them today.

  • TechleoTechleo Member Posts: 1,984
        Your relating Philosophy to religion. That not my intent. Philosophy is define as the rational investigation of the truths and principles of being, knowledge, or conduct. It contains any of the three branches, namely natural philosophy, moral philosophy,
    and metaphysical philosophy, that are accepted as composing this study. These branches help restructure what we understand and how we understand it. In fact Philosophy is the basis for the Scientific investigation.

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  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087
    Oh dear here we go again another good thread turning into a Religious argument. image

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  • TechleoTechleo Member Posts: 1,984
        Im more under the impression Copeland that time as we percieve it is a observation. One which we can observe with instruments of measurement. That being said I think time is a literal mechanic that can be manipulated. Insomuch like a lens or a mirror we can manipulate its activity. Whether or not that is true remains to be seen. I suspect we mite learn alot about those said mechanics when CERNS fires up over in europe. Barring the effects of the black holes arent more extreme then they suspect. I highly doubt the micro-blackholes which will form will have that dramatic a effect on us.


  • CooktasticoCooktastico Member Posts: 599
    Both Einstein and Hawking believe(d) in God and in time travel, and they are/were the two of the top physicists throughout history. The thing about each person having their own demention is in Stephen Hawking's book when he talks about an astronaut getting trapped on a collapsing star. It's interesting, I suggest reading it. Time travel is definitely possible.
  • TechleoTechleo Member Posts: 1,984

        Thats not so much Time Travel as the term mite denote based of the Sci-Fi terms common aura. Rather that would be a Object Relative Time Distortion. As such the objects relation to the time around it is distorted and it travels at its own relative time sequence. Of course this occurs because the objects normal time relation is distorted by the stars overwhelming gravity shift. Grant you I dont think a human could surivive such a phenomenon unless it could disrelate from the relative effects. Meaning youd already be moving on a seperate time relative to the overall universe. Primarely this is possible if your existing in a Confined Temporal Brane. Look up Brane theory which is related to String theory.


  • HocheteHochete Member CommonPosts: 1,210
    It's true actually, if we had invented time travel, surely we'd have taken measures to travel back in time and prevent tragedies like 9/11? Or to give forewarning of the tsunami in Asia?





  • bejones86bejones86 Member Posts: 5

    Originally posted by starman999
    I agree with slater..... How would we know if someone did? They couldnt come out and say they came from the future. They would be locked away for life in a mental institiute and the governmet would snatch the machine and kill everyone who knew anything about it. This is the same reason that "we have never encountered aliens" and "area 51 does not exist" even though we know damn well it does. Shit... gotta go...... black helicopters outside my apartment..... cant let em get me yet....
    Isn't that the damn truth?!  If anyone were to come, they'd have been drugged immediately and put in confinement to make sure they couldn't talk about their travels because people would think they were crazy.  God forbid we find out anything besides what the government wants us to know.


  • PlanoMMPlanoMM Member Posts: 1,267
    and all of this is based on theories that have never been proven.  time doesnt exist.  we make it exist with our minds.  thats why 5 mins to me can seem like 15 mins, and 3 to someone else.  its all relative.  and not to bring in the theological debate here but thats why God exists in all of time at the same time.  because time doesnt actually exist.

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  • TechleoTechleo Member Posts: 1,984
              Quite the contrary we have seen the effects of time dialation, temporal lens effects and faster then light travel dialation. All thanks to a wonderful little thing called a Tachyon. As for the 5 minutes can appear to be 15 mins debate. Thats mechanical. The brain can easily be manipulated to percieve time shifts. The actual relative relation to the objects can be measured by objects not so easily manipulated. This gives us our so called science. Oh as for god and time, diffrent discussion entirely.


  • SlickinfinitSlickinfinit Member UncommonPosts: 1,094

    All modern day theoretical physics allows for time travel and infact its already happend just not like how you think it would. Time,space and gravity all interact with each other and they prepetuate the flow at which we currently observe spacetime. Change the formula that we are observing by altering the gravitaional field and you would make the flow of time differant then we currently experience, time is the 4th dimension of our universe according to alot of physics theories.

    How has it already happend? Well look at astronauts, they are working in a field of gravity that is differant then what we experience so according to general relativity their observance of spacetime is differant than ours on the planet. From what I read a few astronauts that have been in space for long periods of time actualy go forward in time by a matter of 30-50 seconds but the basic principal says that is you change the surrounding equation of gravity/space/mass then time will flow at a differant rate.

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  • SlickinfinitSlickinfinit Member UncommonPosts: 1,094



    Originally posted by PlanoMM
    and all of this is based on theories that have never been proven.  time doesnt exist.  we make it exist with our minds.  thats why 5 mins to me can seem like 15 mins, and 3 to someone else.  its all relative.  and not to bring in the theological debate here but thats why God exists in all of time at the same time.  because time doesnt actually exist.


    Did you just make that up or did you actualy read that somewhere? Because it honestly doesnt sound scientific especialy since time has more proof then god does.

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