I can't comment on the current state of the game since I haven't played since about a month after launch. I wanted to like this game so bad just because they had the stones to try soemthing a little different. However, I just couldn't get into the game at all. It was almost impossible to find a group. The few groups I did manage to get into were horrible as everyone just went off their own directions and complained when everyone else wasn't following them. Just before this I played DDO where everyone had to group or forgoe any hope of advancement. Sadly, I think I prefered that. I think my biggest complaint was the car physics. It didn't seem like driving a car at all. There are like four points of articulation in the steering.
If they ever have a come back and try it for free promo I may give it another shot.
Originally posted by Dyrtt I can't comment on the current state of the game since I haven't played since about a month after launch. I wanted to like this game so bad just because they had the stones to try soemthing a little different. However, I just couldn't get into the game at all. It was almost impossible to find a group. The few groups I did manage to get into were horrible as everyone just went off their own directions and complained when everyone else wasn't following them. Just before this I played DDO where everyone had to group or forgoe any hope of advancement. Sadly, I think I prefered that. I think my biggest complaint was the car physics. It didn't seem like driving a car at all. There are like four points of articulation in the steering.
If they ever have a come back and try it for free promo I may give it another shot.
Hmm I never had a problem with the driving physics but that seems to be haighly varied and personal. But defintely the grouping is not idiot tolerant. Basically just like in real driving or flying or whatever it is very easy to lose someone. Anyone who has tried to follow someone on the highway knows what I am talking about.
Its kind of a double edged sword, it adds another dimension to the grouping, but most people have no idea what the heck is going on.
Its not a PUG friendly game really because you gotta drive in formation or be very comfortable with each to group well.
Originally posted by Dyrtt I can't comment on the current state of the game since I haven't played since about a month after launch. I wanted to like this game so bad just because they had the stones to try soemthing a little different. However, I just couldn't get into the game at all. It was almost impossible to find a group. The few groups I did manage to get into were horrible as everyone just went off their own directions and complained when everyone else wasn't following them. Just before this I played DDO where everyone had to group or forgoe any hope of advancement. Sadly, I think I prefered that. I think my biggest complaint was the car physics. It didn't seem like driving a car at all. There are like four points of articulation in the steering.
If they ever have a come back and try it for free promo I may give it another shot.
Yeh a month after launch the game was still bug ridden. CArp hysics hav improved a bit tho I'm sure many will still say it doesn't feel right. Thats all personal stuff and can't really be generalised. You are not forced to group which is what a lot of players like about the game. But they have added some group instances to the low levels now so there is a kind of forced group boss level. This will help players get into the grouping thing who usually play solo I guess and learn to play as a group. Also the new Tower level is a group instance (level 80) as the boss is quite tuff and to get to him you will need a group just to stay alive.
It's okay, could of been better with a few more months polish. I really did not get into it like I thought I would of. I might try that again in the Spring though. But it is a grind fest, granted a quest grind fest, but still a grind fest. Also the Reverse Engineering Crafting System did not sit well for me. I would of it been more open like WOW or SWG used to be.
This game is a complete flop to everything NcSoft has ever created. And yes I'm saying this from experience, I was a beta tester for Auto Assault and had a real hard time trying to get past the lame gameplay but I did. Once beta was over I got a trial I used to see what it was like after beta. It still was the same boring mechanics and gameplay. No update will ever change this terrible terrible game.
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Originally posted by Firebird1 It's okay, could of been better with a few more months polish. I really did not get into it like I thought I would of. I might try that again in the Spring though. But it is a grind fest, granted a quest grind fest, but still a grind fest. Also the Reverse Engineering Crafting System did not sit well for me.
Agreed the crafting system is probably the weakest aspect of this game atm and needs some attention which I think is next on the devs list along with clan supporting functions like clan lockers/halls etc. Atm, you can drop far better items than is craftable but as I have said before this game is in constant development so I expect this to be fixed within the next 2 updates.
ND havn't held back/failed us so far with sticking to their guns and continuing development on this game so I can say AS SOMEONE WHO PLAYS THIS GAME A LOT that I have faith in them.
Originally posted by HeLL_SNX Originally posted by Firebird1 It's okay, could of been better with a few more months polish. I really did not get into it like I thought I would of. I might try that again in the Spring though. But it is a grind fest, granted a quest grind fest, but still a grind fest. Also the Reverse Engineering Crafting System did not sit well for me.
Agreed the crafting system is probably the weakest aspect of this game atm and needs some attention which I think is next on the devs list along with clan supporting functions like clan lockers/halls etc. Atm, you can drop far better items than is craftable but as I have said before this game is in constant development so I expect this to be fixed within the next 2 updates.
ND havn't held back/failed us so far with sticking to their guns and continuing development on this game so I can say AS SOMEONE WHO PLAYS THIS GAME A LOT that I have faith in them. I like the crafting, experimentation is really cool. I just wish that memorization wasn't limited to a certain number of produced items. Once you memeorize a base item you should have it for ever. You can only have like 10 things memorized anyway you shouldn't be fruther limited by charge on the memorization.
But the crafting is nice, once you have full on experimentation + a memorized good base item you can make almost any item in the game on demand if you have the base components. And considering the random drop it is much quicker to find a crafter than try to farm out the exact ideal thing you want. Especially for chassis.
I found that there is no replayability on this game. I lost count of the number of characters I made, to test everything out, but at least 1 of each class on each race (so at least 12). The problem is, once you go out into the world, you get stuck in the same area for a good 15-20 levels, until you are high enough to progress to the next tier area. Doing that each time for each class became incredibly repetetive. Couple that with the fact that the quests are all grindfests - The same old "Go here, kill X amount and come back" or "Go here, collect X amount and come back" quests get very tedious in a short space of time.
There is an ok crafting system, with lots of different drops to collect (basically any scenery which can be destroyed can yield crafting loot). Pity there is no marketplace, and no mail system, so you can't even craft other than for yourself (Unless you plan on sitting in a major city spamming, and even then it's not like SWG with Coronet, where everyone gathers around to sell their wares. You rarely see enough people to make it worth while).
I played on a trial about 4 months ago, to see if much had changed. It's still a total grindfest for replayability - You have to go out there, grind like mad, just to get to an area you haven't been to yet. But even then, once you grow bored of that new area, you'll have to grind like mad again so you can get to the next new area.
I was in the beta for quite a long time, and I realised that the game would be going nowhere when the developers weren't listening to the ideas of the testers. A lot of us put some hard work into the testing, trying to make the game good, only for them to kick everyone out without so much as a thank you. Right then and there I decided not to buy the game, because it was far from complete, and none of the major bugs we had listed time and again were fixed.
Basically, this game is fun because it is different. As soon as you have seen all there is, it's shelved.
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The problem is, once you go out into the world, you get stuck in the same area for a good 15-20 levels, until you are high enough to progress to the next tier area. Doing that each time for each class became incredibly repetetive.
YOu can get all the way to Ground Zero (endgame map) if you want . I have seen players there ranging from lvl 5 to 20. You are not STUCK in any area. IS there any point in doing this? No, but I'm just pointing out that you are not STUCK in a map.
Couple that with the fact that the quests are all grindfests - The same old "Go here, kill X amount and come back" or "Go here, collect X amount and come back" quests get very tedious in a short space of time.
Isn't this the same in most games? The quest grinds are really just a way to get to the endgame content anyway. And if you enjoy a good storyline, each faction has their own well written unique angle on the big picture. But I agree with you in that once you have played a class of a faction to 80, you probably wouldn't level another of the same class. However, levelling an alt class of same faction means getting to grips with new skills and role play style which kind of makes up for doing the same quest grind over.
I played on a trial about 4 months ago, to see if much had changed. It's still a total grindfest for replayability - You have to go out there, grind like mad, just to get to an area you haven't been to yet. But even then, once you grow bored of that new area, you'll have to grind like mad again so you can get to the next new area.
Not really true anymore. Ofc if you are saying the quests are grinds, then thats your opinion. But you don't really have to grind outside of quests to level. And as stated before you aren't stuck in any map. Its just that you may not be able to survive mobs in a more advanced level map. But this doesn't prevent you from exploring if you get bored. In fact you can get items off mobs that are harder to drop when you are at their level when you 'grind' ahead of your level.
I was in the beta for quite a long time, and I realised that the game would be going nowhere when the developers weren't listening to the ideas of the testers.
A lot has changed since then, check out the forums and you will see a lot of red names actually responding to player suggestions and feedback. Actually, don't check out the forums if you are new to this game. Forums are known to be game killers! lol
Basically, this game is fun because it is different.
Originally posted by Mechanicus Isn't this the same in most games?
Most games also have replayability and enjoyment. Pity those weren't copied over into this game as well as all the downsides of MMOs
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As soon as you have seen all there is, it's shelved.
I am uncertain how you can say it has no replayability. If you play a different class archetype for each faction you will have 3 completely different experiences.
The classes are sufficiently different to have quite different gameplay. Even down to mechanics. Ramming is much more important to Fighter/supporthealer than it is to pet class/stealther. That alone completely changes how you drive. Motorcylces have quite different handling than cars (as they should) and of course the nuker vs. pet class vs defense class mechanics are all there to differentiate.
Each faction from 1-40 involves zones that only that faction can access and the 40-60 zone is a different clone with different activites for the faction that controls it. Only the central PvP zone for 60-80, Ground Zero, is the same for all factions.
There are always at least 3 ways with different quests and different story to play through the game and more ways if you don't mind a repeat. You can start as a human freelancer mercenary or a backwoods mutant getting no repsect from the big city mutants. Damn Tocado born snooty npcs I wish I could have showed them who was boss! The biomeks are pretty cool with their borg like assimilation and the rejects you need to go around and help. Starting as mutant is infamous for drowning people. Starting as a Biomeks you get the badass Tempernet stuff and far more expsoure to snow. etc etc etc. You can only find out the connection between the neutral faction and Tempernet by playing through biomeks
Saying it has no replayability seems blatantly false. Saying you would not enjoy replaying it is fine. Or that you got bored of the gameplay or whatever. But trying to act like one run through and you have seen everything is completely and undeniably refutable.
Edit: I would go so far as to say you will not fully enjoy AA if you do not play all three factions at once.
Originally posted by HeLL_SNX Well they just released the new Auction House and mailing system via part of the Update 4 onto the PTS.
GOnna be testing this over the hols.
Things are looking up.
Wow nice that was the big thing lacking in the crafting system IMO. Since there are no standard recipes you really need to be able to show your wares and finding just the right crafter was a pain in the ass I was lucky to find the guy who made my motorcylce.
Originally posted by CleffyII Gotta give props to NCsoft for continuing development and updates on this game. If it was Turbine or EA, they would have shutdown 8 months ago.
lol? AC is 8 years old and still getting monthly updates and dev loving. 1 game doesnt reflect the entire company.
I think i'm gonna give AA a try. After playing plenty of terrible mmo's this year, AA cant possibly be that bad.
The new skill system seems to be working okay too (on PTS atm). They are planning on removing most of the +skill enhancing items from the game (still under debate). All skills will have 10 ranks and cost 10 points to max across all factions. This will hopefully clear up the unbalancing skill issues between factions.
The game controls like an Atari2600 version of Pole Position. For a driving game, the most important thing being handling/control, the game fails miserably. AA could have been great if done right, but it wasn't. There's a reason very few people play it. Hey if you are having fun with this steaming pile, more power to ya.
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This game is about blowing stuff up in cars, not racing or driving. I wouldn't call it a 'driving' game at all for the same reason I wouldn't call a game based on spaceships a space exploration game.
Sure driving feel is an important factor in, and if you come to this from Need For Speed Carbon you are not gonna finsd the same satisfaction for the above stated reasons.
On the other hand, coming from someone who DOES enjoy zooming about and flying off of sand dunes onto the top of an alien spaceship dropping a flaming oil slick then reversing off of it whilst shooting at it with both weps whilst trying to dodge the other now aggro'd aliens who are coming at you in droves and then hitting the speed boost and lockdown to make a getaway...I do find it fun yeh.
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I can't comment on the current state of the game since I haven't played since about a month after launch. I wanted to like this game so bad just because they had the stones to try soemthing a little different. However, I just couldn't get into the game at all. It was almost impossible to find a group. The few groups I did manage to get into were horrible as everyone just went off their own directions and complained when everyone else wasn't following them. Just before this I played DDO where everyone had to group or forgoe any hope of advancement. Sadly, I think I prefered that. I think my biggest complaint was the car physics. It didn't seem like driving a car at all. There are like four points of articulation in the steering.
If they ever have a come back and try it for free promo I may give it another shot.
Hmm I never had a problem with the driving physics but that seems to be haighly varied and personal. But defintely the grouping is not idiot tolerant. Basically just like in real driving or flying or whatever it is very easy to lose someone. Anyone who has tried to follow someone on the highway knows what I am talking about.
Its kind of a double edged sword, it adds another dimension to the grouping, but most people have no idea what the heck is going on.
Its not a PUG friendly game really because you gotta drive in formation or be very comfortable with each to group well.
Also the new Tower level is a group instance (level 80) as the boss is quite tuff and to get to him you will need a group just to stay alive.
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This game is a complete flop to everything NcSoft has ever created. And yes I'm saying this from experience, I was a beta tester for Auto Assault and had a real hard time trying to get past the lame gameplay but I did. Once beta was over I got a trial I used to see what it was like after beta. It still was the same boring mechanics and gameplay. No update will ever change this terrible terrible game.
Atm, you can drop far better items than is craftable but as I have said before this game is in constant development so I expect this to be fixed within the next 2 updates.
ND havn't held back/failed us so far with sticking to their guns and continuing development on this game so I can say AS SOMEONE WHO PLAYS THIS GAME A LOT that I have faith in them.
WHAT IS AUTO ASSAULT?
AUTO ASSAULT 14 DAY TRIAL
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"It is the nature of herds that they flock to where there are more of the same not more quality."
Atm, you can drop far better items than is craftable but as I have said before this game is in constant development so I expect this to be fixed within the next 2 updates.
ND havn't held back/failed us so far with sticking to their guns and continuing development on this game so I can say AS SOMEONE WHO PLAYS THIS GAME A LOT that I have faith in them.
I like the crafting, experimentation is really cool. I just wish that memorization wasn't limited to a certain number of produced items. Once you memeorize a base item you should have it for ever. You can only have like 10 things memorized anyway you shouldn't be fruther limited by charge on the memorization.
But the crafting is nice, once you have full on experimentation + a memorized good base item you can make almost any item in the game on demand if you have the base components. And considering the random drop it is much quicker to find a crafter than try to farm out the exact ideal thing you want. Especially for chassis.
Hmm I got to try it sometime, just got to remember to dl it overnight which is a pain with mmorpgs being massive.
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I found that there is no replayability on this game.
I lost count of the number of characters I made, to test everything out, but at least 1 of each class on each race (so at least 12).
The problem is, once you go out into the world, you get stuck in the same area for a good 15-20 levels, until you are high enough to progress to the next tier area. Doing that each time for each class became incredibly repetetive.
Couple that with the fact that the quests are all grindfests - The same old "Go here, kill X amount and come back" or "Go here, collect X amount and come back" quests get very tedious in a short space of time.
There is an ok crafting system, with lots of different drops to collect (basically any scenery which can be destroyed can yield crafting loot). Pity there is no marketplace, and no mail system, so you can't even craft other than for yourself (Unless you plan on sitting in a major city spamming, and even then it's not like SWG with Coronet, where everyone gathers around to sell their wares. You rarely see enough people to make it worth while).
I played on a trial about 4 months ago, to see if much had changed. It's still a total grindfest for replayability - You have to go out there, grind like mad, just to get to an area you haven't been to yet. But even then, once you grow bored of that new area, you'll have to grind like mad again so you can get to the next new area.
I was in the beta for quite a long time, and I realised that the game would be going nowhere when the developers weren't listening to the ideas of the testers. A lot of us put some hard work into the testing, trying to make the game good, only for them to kick everyone out without so much as a thank you. Right then and there I decided not to buy the game, because it was far from complete, and none of the major bugs we had listed time and again were fixed.
Basically, this game is fun because it is different. As soon as you have seen all there is, it's shelved.
Current MMO: None
Previous MMOs: WoW, Guild Wars, SWG, EQ2, LotrO, Vanguard, Matrix Online, AoC, Ultima Online, Fallen Earth, D&D Online, Champions Online, Aion, Rift.
And if you enjoy a good storyline, each faction has their own well written unique angle on the big picture.
But I agree with you in that once you have played a class of a faction to 80, you probably wouldn't level another of the same class. However, levelling an alt class of same faction means getting to grips with new skills and role play style which kind of makes up for doing the same quest grind over. Not really true anymore. Ofc if you are saying the quests are grinds, then thats your opinion. But you don't really have to grind outside of quests to level. And as stated before you aren't stuck in any map. Its just that you may not be able to survive mobs in a more advanced level map. But this doesn't prevent you from exploring if you get bored. In fact you can get items off mobs that are harder to drop when you are at their level when you 'grind' ahead of your level. A lot has changed since then, check out the forums and you will see a lot of red names actually responding to player suggestions and feedback. Actually, don't check out the forums if you are new to this game. Forums are known to be game killers! lol
Exactly.
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I know, because thats your personal opinion and shouldn't be a generalisation of what you think everyone is likely to do.
"This game is fun because its different. Personally I got bored of it later on and shelved it."
..would have been more truthful.
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"It is the nature of herds that they flock to where there are more of the same not more quality."
Oh, and you left this out
I am uncertain how you can say it has no replayability. If you play a different class archetype for each faction you will have 3 completely different experiences.
The classes are sufficiently different to have quite different gameplay. Even down to mechanics. Ramming is much more important to Fighter/supporthealer than it is to pet class/stealther. That alone completely changes how you drive. Motorcylces have quite different handling than cars (as they should) and of course the nuker vs. pet class vs defense class mechanics are all there to differentiate.
Each faction from 1-40 involves zones that only that faction can access and the 40-60 zone is a different clone with different activites for the faction that controls it. Only the central PvP zone for 60-80, Ground Zero, is the same for all factions.
There are always at least 3 ways with different quests and different story to play through the game and more ways if you don't mind a repeat. You can start as a human freelancer mercenary or a backwoods mutant getting no repsect from the big city mutants. Damn Tocado born snooty npcs I wish I could have showed them who was boss! The biomeks are pretty cool with their borg like assimilation and the rejects you need to go around and help. Starting as mutant is infamous for drowning people. Starting as a Biomeks you get the badass Tempernet stuff and far more expsoure to snow. etc etc etc. You can only find out the connection between the neutral faction and Tempernet by playing through biomeks
Saying it has no replayability seems blatantly false. Saying you would not enjoy replaying it is fine. Or that you got bored of the gameplay or whatever. But trying to act like one run through and you have seen everything is completely and undeniably refutable.
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I would go so far as to say you will not fully enjoy AA if you do not play all three factions at once.
GOnna be testing this over the hols.
Things are looking up.
WHAT IS AUTO ASSAULT?
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"It is the nature of herds that they flock to where there are more of the same not more quality."
Wow nice that was the big thing lacking in the crafting system IMO. Since there are no standard recipes you really need to be able to show your wares and finding just the right crafter was a pain in the ass I was lucky to find the guy who made my motorcylce.
I think i'm gonna give AA a try. After playing plenty of terrible mmo's this year, AA cant possibly be that bad.
This will hopefully clear up the unbalancing skill issues between factions.
WHAT IS AUTO ASSAULT?
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"It is the nature of herds that they flock to where there are more of the same not more quality."
The game controls like an Atari2600 version of Pole Position. For a driving game, the most important thing being handling/control, the game fails miserably. AA could have been great if done right, but it wasn't. There's a reason very few people play it. Hey if you are having fun with this steaming pile, more power to ya.
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This game is about blowing stuff up in cars, not racing or driving.
I wouldn't call it a 'driving' game at all for the same reason I wouldn't call a game based on spaceships a space exploration game.
Sure driving feel is an important factor in, and if you come to this from Need For Speed Carbon you are not gonna finsd the same satisfaction for the above stated reasons.
On the other hand, coming from someone who DOES enjoy zooming about and flying off of sand dunes onto the top of an alien spaceship dropping a flaming oil slick then reversing off of it whilst shooting at it with both weps whilst trying to dodge the other now aggro'd aliens who are coming at you in droves and then hitting the speed boost and lockdown to make a getaway...I do find it fun yeh.
WHAT IS AUTO ASSAULT?
AUTO ASSAULT 14 DAY TRIAL
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"It is the nature of herds that they flock to where there are more of the same not more quality."