I might check warhammer out, but honestly its not bringing anything to the table except hype
more things im interested in are in Vanguard, however I think Warhammer may be more of a casual game then Vanguard so.. who knows?
anyway ive seen several videos on the gameplay of warhammer and unless it really kicks ass with PvP and class skills its not going to get my 15 bux a month. When I say kick ass PvP I mean something that will set the bar above Eve, DAoC and Lineage 2 which is a big chunk to bite
if its anywhere remotely close to what World of Warcraft is, expect a huge disappointment. Keep in mind how long WoW has been on the market, the revenue its pulled in to continue its development and a huge expansion (first mind you) due out in days.
as bad as I hate to say it, everyone will be comparing this game to WoW even more than any other upcoming MMO to hit the shelves
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So Warhammer all the way
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Neither has a chance of being a "WoW" killer. It would be too much for 1 game to take on. Which game is going to do better? WAR? Which one has a chance of being more than a niche game? WAR.
Contrary to the developers behind Vanguard believe, people do not want a harder version of EQ.
Vanguard will be good for its targeted audiance, but War is going for the casual players and fun instead of a hard challenging game. Both will be good but they will be diffrent, and are hard to compare because of this.
Vanguard = HC pve
War = casual pvp
WOW= casual pve
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Neither has a chance of being a "WoW" killer. It would be too much for 1 game to take on. Which game is going to do better? WAR? Which one has a chance of being more than a niche game? WAR.
Contrary to the developers behind Vanguard believe, people do not want a harder version of EQ.
Well the devs of Vanguiard did say orginaly that they would be happy being a niche game. That seems to have been lost now that it's getting closer to being release or maybe it just seems that way to me from the hype from players that are going to enjoy it what Vanguard offers.
mythic is a team of dev's which has been choosen by the hand of god himself granted that they have faltered in the past *cough* trials of atlantis *cough*. But that was an expansion, something they even said afterwards they regretted... As spider-man says, everybody gets one....
I think neither will be a Wow-killer. Where is the Ragnarok Online 2, Granado Espada, and Age of Conan. Those can be WoW-killers. Both those 2 don't even stand a chance at it.
I think neither will be a Wow-killer. Where is the Ragnarok Online 2, Granado Espada, and Age of Conan. Those can be WoW-killers. Both those 2 don't even stand a chance at it.
How many average 'Western' MMO players do you think have even heard of Grando Espada?
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I think neither will be a Wow-killer. Where is the Ragnarok Online 2, Granado Espada, and Age of Conan. Those can be WoW-killers. Both those 2 don't even stand a chance at it.
man...you dont know woot your talking about...yes it true Vanguard sux... but look on warhammer...history from 1983...milions fans....i am sure war wil be great top game...wow is old crap now expansion isnt that much news...wow boring war fun news and much more classes,races and zones... more group combat fun... not fuking raiding crap hours...more like warcraft 3:))) much bether than wow crap... war based on pvp like wc3 multyplayer maps that rox.. ragnarock 2 have no chanse..it sux.....age of conan mabye a litle chanse ... but to bad choice no factions... 3 classes .....1 race.... very fun?? huh i hate that type of idiana jones games... full on indians ... age of conan lol anyway there is many that like age of conan look so ..anyway warhammer have very very very big chanse to kick wow out of windo and burn that boring crap game... none action ...only farmin thats wow ffs i cant understand why i played that crap 2 years >.> well i got answer there was no other MMORPG games with W,A,S,D keys system and factions and races + classes and good char design..now warhammer looks awsom and races looks awsom and classes looks great and zones looks war killing blood cool and lore! LORE! yes lore! that is very important in good game...wow lore WTF? drainey coming from sky STARWARS omfg drainey WTF? just came from space in my ass jesus .... poor fantasy... warhammer lore is real good fantasy its not for 4yr old kids... its kind for all its about war...not starwars...with flying draineys...
Warhammer Online will draw more players away from WoW then Vanguard.
However, neither game will "kill" WoW.
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I think the vast majority of people will do exactly what I'll be doing... I'll play Vanguard when it's out up until the release of WAR, then move over to that.
Vanguard looks very interesting when you read the feature list and all, but personally I think it looks like EverQuest 2.5 - not that there's anything wrong about that, because I think EQ2 is a great game. Vanguard has the exact same look as EQ2, and though it's a matter of preference, it really turned me off. I like EQ2 a lot and still play it, but I really hate the graphics. It's hard to put into words, but everything just looks plain somehow.
I think the vast majority of people will do exactly what I'll be doing... I'll play Vanguard when it's out up until the release of WAR, then move over to that.
Exactly what I plan on doing...unless AOC comes out between...then I'll give it a try as well.... heck, maybe I'll keep accounts on all 3 and play them all....
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I plan on trying both games. However, as others have said, Vanguard will very likely be a niche game while Warhammer is already looking to be poised to be a successful mass-appeal MMO. I doubt either will "kill" WoW though.
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I might check warhammer out, but honestly its not bringing anything to the table except hype
more things im interested in are in Vanguard, however I think Warhammer may be more of a casual game then Vanguard so.. who knows?
anyway ive seen several videos on the gameplay of warhammer and unless it really kicks ass with PvP and class skills its not going to get my 15 bux a month. When I say kick ass PvP I mean something that will set the bar above Eve, DAoC and Lineage 2 which is a big chunk to bite
if its anywhere remotely close to what World of Warcraft is, expect a huge disappointment. Keep in mind how long WoW has been on the market, the revenue its pulled in to continue its development and a huge expansion (first mind you) due out in days.
as bad as I hate to say it, everyone will be comparing this game to WoW even more than any other upcoming MMO to hit the shelves
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
WoW is made by mythic
mythic is a team of dev's which has been choosen by the hand of god himself granted that they have faltered in the past *cough* trials of atlantis *cough*. But that was an expansion, something they even said afterwards they regretted... As spider-man says, everybody gets one....
So Warhammer all the way
"Is it better to know everything about nothing then nothing about everything ?" -Me
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Contrary to the developers behind Vanguard believe, people do not want a harder version of EQ.
Vanguard will be good for its targeted audiance, but War is going for the casual players and fun instead of a hard challenging game. Both will be good but they will be diffrent, and are hard to compare because of this.
Vanguard = HC pve
War = casual pvp
WOW= casual pve
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WAR is a mainstream game where as Vanguard is a niche genre game, so in no way i think that Vanguard will have a chance.
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WoW is made by blizzard...
vanguard? saw video looks sucky... wow??? boring ...to many raids to long time spend on playing it...warhammer...<3 wil own them all
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man...you dont know woot your talking about...yes it true Vanguard sux... but look on warhammer...history from 1983...milions fans....i am sure war wil be great top game...wow is old crap now expansion isnt that much news...wow boring war fun news and much more classes,races and zones... more group combat fun... not fuking raiding crap hours...more like warcraft 3:))) much bether than wow crap... war based on pvp like wc3 multyplayer maps that rox.. ragnarock 2 have no chanse..it sux.....age of conan mabye a litle chanse ... but to bad choice no factions... 3 classes .....1 race.... very fun?? huh i hate that type of idiana jones games... full on indians ... age of conan lol anyway there is many that like age of conan look so ..anyway warhammer have very very very big chanse to kick wow out of windo and burn that boring crap game... none action ...only farmin thats wow ffs i cant understand why i played that crap 2 years >.> well i got answer there was no other MMORPG games with W,A,S,D keys system and factions and races + classes and good char design..now warhammer looks awsom and races looks awsom and classes looks great and zones looks war killing blood cool and lore! LORE! yes lore! that is very important in good game...wow lore WTF? drainey coming from sky STARWARS omfg drainey WTF? just came from space in my ass jesus .... poor fantasy... warhammer lore is real good fantasy its not for 4yr old kids... its kind for all its about war...not starwars...with flying draineys...
and m8? what tha fuck is Granado Espada??? O.O
Warhammer Online will draw more players away from WoW then Vanguard.
However, neither game will "kill" WoW.
"Whosoever shed last blood
By man shall his blood be shed
For immunity of God make he the man
Destroy all that which is evil
So that which is good may flourish
And I shall count thee among my favored sheep
And you shall have the protection of all the angels in Heaven."
on topic: i pretty much think WAR will be better then Vanguard.
vanguard wins at generating fanboys here like EvE online ones.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
Voted Warhammer.
Vanguard looks very interesting when you read the feature list and all, but personally I think it looks like EverQuest 2.5 - not that there's anything wrong about that, because I think EQ2 is a great game. Vanguard has the exact same look as EQ2, and though it's a matter of preference, it really turned me off. I like EQ2 a lot and still play it, but I really hate the graphics. It's hard to put into words, but everything just looks plain somehow.
Exactly what I plan on doing...unless AOC comes out between...then I'll give it a try as well.... heck, maybe I'll keep accounts on all 3 and play them all....
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Vanguard will be a "niche" game.
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