No it wont, the game itself sucks. Getting more expansions or patches arent gonna help the pansy ass character art, combat system, controls etc. Its just a boring boring game. Theres about 500 times as many mobs to kill and places to go in EQ. Everything in FFXI is the same.
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lol FF11 WONT have any expansions hopefully...and look at EQ theres about 5-8 expansions costing as much as $20 each...like HELLO your wasting more money on the games then paying each month!
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The great thing about expansions for FFXI is that they will do the game more justice than they did EQ.
IMO the best expansions for EQ were kunark and velious, and they were released by VI. When SOE released something the game got dumbed down. We can rest assured that FFXI wont change developers ever, so the game is very far from that pitfall.
Originally posted by Celadreal The great thing about expansions for FFXI is that they will do the game more justice than they did EQ. IMO the best expansions for EQ were kunark and velious, and they were released by VI. When SOE released something the game got dumbed down. We can rest assured that FFXI wont change developers ever, so the game is very far from that pitfall.
That sounded like it made sense at first. Upon a second reading... gibberish. Why, do tell, will a game that isn't fun benefit from the same developer (who created said not fun game) working on its expansions? IMO the best part of FFXI is that everyone is named after anime characters. Oh no wait... I hate anime.
If a game is fun (which EQ was when it was still under VI, and which FFXI is under Square-Enix.) The developer knows the best parts about their game, what they want their game to feature and give the player.
No MMORPG has been "bad" it has just been geared towards a certain audience. The original developer knows which audience that is and knows what they can do to expand on a game, but keeping it on the same track as it was set off on. The only time a game needs to change tracks is if the current track isnt as profitable as they need it too be to stay afloat.
FFXI is successful and everything it set out to be it is. So as long as square-enix expands on it, it will only become better at what is best about it.
Note: I have seen very few people with anime names, and many of their names are from obscure anime. If you dont like anime, why would you watch it. If you dont watch it how do you know enough anime names to say the game is full of people named from it?
The power of your logic is overwhelming, but let me give this my best shot!
I say to people "Are you japanese?" and they say "No. My name is from an anime." and I reply "I hate you. Anime is the worst ever." My hero was named "Laertes"! That's an old name from a book I read one time. I think he killed someone important! I picked it mostly cuz it sounds coooooooool and because Atreyu was already taken (that's from a good movie!) Hope this clears up any confusion, you big behemoth of debatitude. Thanks for writing! xoxo LOLOL
first off..who cares if they have an anime name? like everyone have different names....and yes..EQ was a fun game until the developers released more expansion which is useless...like one expansion = one area with a bit of new items...thats just plain stupid?? couldnt they just have a major update? instead of making players pay. Watch in the next year they will have at least another 5 expansion..and the players waste at least a year of payment....
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Hmmm, FFXI already has 1 expansion, with more expansions due to come out. So.... it already has one expansion, but FF needs serious help, its too small and crowded, not enough mobs or different mobs, killing the same things over and over and over and over....
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That expansion came with the game?? well just because there arent a lot of mobs..doesnt make the game bad?? its all about the lvls and items..not some ugly monsters...well maybe you like them but i dont...sigh..monster addictions....
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This game has a ton of great features and is very polished so soon after release. After hitting level 20, however, I've not been having enough fun playing it as I would like. Whether the reason is the tedium of the leveling treadmill or my own personal issues, the end result is that the fun factor is not there.
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same monsters but different lvl monsters??? and at higher lvls..the monsters are TOTALLY different! I go into a cave and come out fighting a huge ass trees with a party.... and HOW do you know if the game doesnt have a lot of monsters? i bet you quit at lvl15..in 15 more lvls everything is different..
well after lvl20 you should head to jeuno and go to quifium..also you should do the chocob quest...
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Originally posted by eddie7 i bet you quit at lvl15..in 15 more lvls everything is different.. well after lvl20 you should head to jeuno and go to quifium..also you should do the chocob quest...
It cracks me up that you pull this stunt every time. Here's some advice: Throwing out an ungrounded accusation and then basing your argument on it isn't an effective form of debate. Anyway, I bet you play FFXI like all day every day. Why do you play so much? I bet if you played less, you'd have more time to post on this message board.
P.S. To avoid the inevitable "I do NOT play that much" response, it's a joke.
Well there have been many new patches and other stuff that has came up since you played it. Maybe you should try it again and play it this time. I think final fantasy XI is better than you say it is.
Originally posted by ramadin No its not, it still sucks. The games skeleton is what the problem is, patches and expansions arent going to change the games core.
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Hmmmm
I have a question for you. If FFXI is so bad, why is it still running? Why didnt it go the way of Horizons or AC2?
Yea you do have a point on how the game has no real point to it ramadin. There could have been many things that sqaure-enix could have done to put some backbone into the story line. Someday i hope they bring ffVII's materia back and make things lower in cost too. Maybe a FFVII-2 lol yea right. But you do have a good point and that's what matters.
I have a question for you. If FFXI is so bad, why is it still running? Why didnt it go the way of Horizons or AC2?
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Lots of bad games are still "running", just look at Shadowbane and SWG. All you have to do is look around at all the "im quitting FFXI" and "this game sux" posts to see that people hate it. When WoW comes out most people will leave. The only reason FFXI had so much hype was because it was MMORPG of the year. Big deal, the only other real MMORPG that year was SWG so obviously it won. It was just the best one of the couple crappy games that came out.
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Here goes: All the mmorpg xp I've had is Daoc for 3 years, AO for 1 month, SWG for two days, and Asheron's Call for 3 months.
I just bought FFXI and got it all updated and installed (pain), and I have been playing it for about two days now. The first day I played it I was pretty lost. I wasn't used to the interface, I wasn't used to how the game played at all. So I had a little bit of difficulty getting around in the game and knowing anything. Some useful features I noted was the in game map was a great tool and the menu system wasn't half bad. I'll leave out the eye candy cause it doesn't really affect the game too much. I did like the presentation though. The story and feeling of immersion into the Vanadiel world was very good.
The second day I played it, I had just read that the game was designed for using a controller. So I went out and bought a dual analog controller. Playing with that was actually a fun experience. The interface wasn't as hard to use, and I hardly ever touched my mouse at all. I only really used my keyboard to type and set up macros and that was about it. I don't feel that the leveling grind is too too bad, but I've only gotten to lvl 5 in a day of playing. And the money, quest, mission system actually gives you a sense of accomplishment. I haven't tried the crafting grind yet, but it seems like everything about the game is rooted around the idea that everything should be fun and if you make a mistake that it shouldn't cost you your character.
conclusion
it just takes a little getting used to. We all have our biases and compare any new mmorpg to the last or longest we have played. We're only human. You just have to get past your initial feelings of a game to find different ways to like it. For me, I love DAoC, but if I tried to make FFXI into that game and compared everything about FFXI to DAoC it would never live up to any of my expectations. I do think that it's at least better than SWG... and I think I have found another mmorpg to sink my money into for another year or two.
Originally posted by ramadin Lots of bad games are still "running", just look at Shadowbane and SWG. All you have to do is look around at all the "im quitting FFXI" and "this game sux" posts to see that people hate it. When WoW comes out most people will leave. The only reason FFXI had so much hype was because it was MMORPG of the year. Big deal, the only other real MMORPG that year was SWG so obviously it won. It was just the best one of the couple crappy games that came out.
People have to be sticking around for a reason, you fail to answer my question.
Why has it been successful for two years? What is it that keeps people coming back? People dont come back for no reason, I think EQ went downhill and sux nowadays but I could tell you why people keep going back to it.
You had to spout up about why FFXI sux, now tell us why people keep playing?
And so what if there are alot of people quitting FFXI there are many more people that arent. You cant just listen to the vocal majority.
Sure i can tell you why people keep playing FFXI, because they have invested time into their character. But if you look at the unofficial IGN boards where most of them post, many say they will leave when WoW or EQ2 comes out. That they are just killing time till a real MMORPG. Check it out for yourself.
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No it wont, the game itself sucks. Getting more expansions or patches arent gonna help the pansy ass character art, combat system, controls etc. Its just a boring boring game. Theres about 500 times as many mobs to kill and places to go in EQ. Everything in FFXI is the same.
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- Black Samurai - Mezmo Man - Flare -
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Drunkenpanda 32WAR/14MNK/11NIN/5Samurai
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IMO the best expansions for EQ were kunark and velious, and they were released by VI. When SOE released something the game got dumbed down. We can rest assured that FFXI wont change developers ever, so the game is very far from that pitfall.
That sounded like it made sense at first. Upon a second reading... gibberish. Why, do tell, will a game that isn't fun benefit from the same developer (who created said not fun game) working on its expansions? IMO the best part of FFXI is that everyone is named after anime characters. Oh no wait... I hate anime.
If a game is fun (which EQ was when it was still under VI, and which FFXI is under Square-Enix.) The developer knows the best parts about their game, what they want their game to feature and give the player.
No MMORPG has been "bad" it has just been geared towards a certain audience. The original developer knows which audience that is and knows what they can do to expand on a game, but keeping it on the same track as it was set off on. The only time a game needs to change tracks is if the current track isnt as profitable as they need it too be to stay afloat.
FFXI is successful and everything it set out to be it is. So as long as square-enix expands on it, it will only become better at what is best about it.
Note: I have seen very few people with anime names, and many of their names are from obscure anime. If you dont like anime, why would you watch it. If you dont watch it how do you know enough anime names to say the game is full of people named from it?
The power of your logic is overwhelming, but let me give this my best shot!
I say to people "Are you japanese?" and they say "No. My name is from an anime." and I reply "I hate you. Anime is the worst ever." My hero was named "Laertes"! That's an old name from a book I read one time. I think he killed someone important! I picked it mostly cuz it sounds coooooooool and because Atreyu was already taken (that's from a good movie!) Hope this clears up any confusion, you big behemoth of debatitude. Thanks for writing! xoxo
LOLOL
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Final Fantasy 11-
Drunkenpanda 32WAR/14MNK/11NIN/5Samurai
Linkshell-
-Guardians Of a New Era
-Unity
Hmmm, FFXI already has 1 expansion, with more expansions due to come out. So.... it already has one expansion, but FF needs serious help, its too small and crowded, not enough mobs or different mobs, killing the same things over and over and over and over....
City of Hero's Characters:
- Black Samurai - Mezmo Man - Flare -
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Final Fantasy 11-
Drunkenpanda 32WAR/14MNK/11NIN/5Samurai
Linkshell-
-Guardians Of a New Era
-Unity
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Genetics loads the gun; lifestyle pulls the trigger.
Monster addiction? Um, no... any game where u kill the same thing over and over is not fun, sorry.
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same monsters but different lvl monsters??? and at higher lvls..the monsters are TOTALLY different! I go into a cave and come out fighting a huge ass trees with a party.... and HOW do you know if the game doesnt have a lot of monsters? i bet you quit at lvl15..in 15 more lvls everything is different..
well after lvl20 you should head to jeuno and go to quifium..also you should do the chocob quest...
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Final Fantasy 11-
Drunkenpanda 32WAR/14MNK/11NIN/10Samurai
Linkshell-
-Guardians Of a New Era
-Unity
It cracks me up that you pull this stunt every time. Here's some advice: Throwing out an ungrounded accusation and then basing your argument on it isn't an effective form of debate. Anyway, I bet you play FFXI like all day every day. Why do you play so much? I bet if you played less, you'd have more time to post on this message board.
P.S. To avoid the inevitable "I do NOT play that much" response, it's a joke.
Well there have been many new patches and other stuff that has came up since you played it. Maybe you should try it again and play it this time. I think final fantasy XI is better than you say it is.
No its not, it still sucks. The games skeleton is what the problem is, patches and expansions arent going to change the games core.
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Hmmmm
I have a question for you. If FFXI is so bad, why is it still running? Why didnt it go the way of Horizons or AC2?
The original poster played 1 minute FFXI and waisted 10 mins typing this crap?
/clap, clap, clap
Congratulations on the lamest post I read so far!
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Hmmmm
I have a question for you. If FFXI is so bad, why is it still running? Why didnt it go the way of Horizons or AC2?
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Lots of bad games are still "running", just look at Shadowbane and SWG. All you have to do is look around at all the "im quitting FFXI" and "this game sux" posts to see that people hate it. When WoW comes out most people will leave. The only reason FFXI had so much hype was because it was MMORPG of the year. Big deal, the only other real MMORPG that year was SWG so obviously it won. It was just the best one of the couple crappy games that came out.
City of Hero's Characters:
- Black Samurai - Mezmo Man - Flare -
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Here goes: All the mmorpg xp I've had is Daoc for 3 years, AO for 1 month, SWG for two days, and Asheron's Call for 3 months.
I just bought FFXI and got it all updated and installed (pain), and I have been playing it for about two days now. The first day I played it I was pretty lost. I wasn't used to the interface, I wasn't used to how the game played at all. So I had a little bit of difficulty getting around in the game and knowing anything. Some useful features I noted was the in game map was a great tool and the menu system wasn't half bad. I'll leave out the eye candy cause it doesn't really affect the game too much. I did like the presentation though. The story and feeling of immersion into the Vanadiel world was very good.
The second day I played it, I had just read that the game was designed for using a controller. So I went out and bought a dual analog controller. Playing with that was actually a fun experience. The interface wasn't as hard to use, and I hardly ever touched my mouse at all. I only really used my keyboard to type and set up macros and that was about it. I don't feel that the leveling grind is too too bad, but I've only gotten to lvl 5 in a day of playing. And the money, quest, mission system actually gives you a sense of accomplishment. I haven't tried the crafting grind yet, but it seems like everything about the game is rooted around the idea that everything should be fun and if you make a mistake that it shouldn't cost you your character.
conclusion
it just takes a little getting used to. We all have our biases and compare any new mmorpg to the last or longest we have played. We're only human. You just have to get past your initial feelings of a game to find different ways to like it. For me, I love DAoC, but if I tried to make FFXI into that game and compared everything about FFXI to DAoC it would never live up to any of my expectations. I do think that it's at least better than SWG... and I think I have found another mmorpg to sink my money into for another year or two.
People have to be sticking around for a reason, you fail to answer my question.
Why has it been successful for two years? What is it that keeps people coming back? People dont come back for no reason, I think EQ went downhill and sux nowadays but I could tell you why people keep going back to it.
You had to spout up about why FFXI sux, now tell us why people keep playing?
And so what if there are alot of people quitting FFXI there are many more people that arent. You cant just listen to the vocal majority.
Sure i can tell you why people keep playing FFXI, because they have invested time into their character. But if you look at the unofficial IGN boards where most of them post, many say they will leave when WoW or EQ2 comes out. That they are just killing time till a real MMORPG. Check it out for yourself.
http://vnboards.ign.com/FFXI_General_Board/b22412/66745346/p1
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also its funny how the poll on that link says that 50% are staring with FFXI and 48% will go to WoW.