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Why play solo a MMORPG ?
exanimo
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ok , i have been thinking about this for a while
from what i have learned about mmorpgs comunitys most people like to play solo
my conclusion to this is that people are so lonely in real life that even in virtual worlds they like to have their space and peace like they are used to have in real life.
people pay to play in a game with 8 million people but then play it alone
its a fake feeling of not being alone
like when we go to the mall sunday afternoon alone , the place is packed with people but still we do all the shoping alone and feel good the have people around
how odd is this ? what kind of humans are we becomeing ?
vanity , we can be really good in a single player game , but then we cant show it off
so we pay for a game where we can show off our single player game habilitys
why the big majority of the people play solo MMORPGs ?
why do we even blame a game when the comunity sucs ? comunity is made of people not code.
who do we blame for humans being selfish ?
thats all for now
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From what I have learned about people in MMOs, nobody LIKES to play solo. However, people like to be able to make use of their time when there is not a group available. Group content is fun, but solo content is necessary.
From what I have learned about people in MMOs, nobody LIKES to play solo. However, people like to be able to make use of their time when there is not a group available. Group content is fun, but solo content is necessary.
ok let me ask that again
why is solo content necessary in a MMORPG ?
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From what I have learned about people in MMOs, nobody LIKES to play solo. However, people like to be able to make use of their time when there is not a group available. Group content is fun, but solo content is necessary.
I agree totally. Time seems to be a major factor in most MMOs with regards to people playing solo. I enjoy grouping but when there isn't one available or the ones I keep running into cause more trouble and consume much more of my gaming time then I can handle I solo play. Some people however enjoy solo content as much as group players enjoy large team action, both should be made readily available, neither should be exclusive. I think it largely should be based on whatever the paying customer enjoys be it solo all the time, solo some time, or grouping entirely.
---I'm not trying to hurt you, I'm simply saving you from that hideous costume you're wearing.
Also, without solo content, the later in the games life the lower level areas will have no players at all. You would need to find other people to start a new character with you so you can get groups to do your quests and grind the mobs.
- - "What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?" - -
You seem to have a horrible attitude toward solo players. I find that confusing as solo players don't exactly disrupt other's enjoyment of the game.
I find myself playing solo a lot in MMOs for several reasons.
1) Most of the people I meet in game tend to be jerks or idiots (not all, just enough to keep me from LFG).
2) (Perhaps the biggest reason for me) I hate trying to type in order to communicate. By the time I say "stick to the left wall or you'll aggro everything in the room!" Leeroy Jenkins has gotten us all killed. I would love voice comm, but then you still have the idiots and morons and all the garabage they feel the need to spew.
3) I really only want to play with my friends, and my friends aren't always on.
4) I don't need a game to force me into social situations. I am perfectly capable of making friends on my own. It doesn't need to be a gameplay dynamic.
So if I end up soloing so much, why do I play MMOs to begin with? Because MMOs are alive. I decided to try playing Elder scrolls 3 and turned it off quickly. The world was dead, npcs just stood around, the game felt hollow. In an MMO the towns are alive with PCs, and if I should ever want to enter a conversation I can.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
yes , but my question still is the same , why do you play solo in a massive multiplayer game.
if it takes too long to find a group , why did you get that game in the first place.
you know massive multiplayer games , are full of people and if you are not going to group , then you are going to solo , if its becose of time comsuming or not , i dont care.
thats not the point , you know from the start that you will play more solo becose of the time you need to group.
i know all the reasons grouping takes time , im playing guildwars for 20 months and i love grouping , for me PUGs FTW
and this is why i bring this topic , becose before guildwars i played all kinds of games but didnt play any mmorpgs.
i was totaly not expecting to find a comunity that plays solo in games where you can group.
it doesnt make sence to me.
its like have a ferrary and always driving 20 miles per hour.
for you its fun to do quests and missions alone ? beat the stupid code ? whats that ..
for me its more fun trying to group with 7 people , even if we take 30 minutes to make a group and then take 30 minutes talking about the tactics and then we play for 30 ..
there i have 1 hour fun from the MMO factor and 30 minutes from the stupid CODE factor.
im not playing online to beat the stupid CODE , that i do in single player games anytime
i dont have a monthly fee in guildwars ( this topic is not game related its for all MMOs )
but i pay my internet connection and electricity bill.
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From what I have learned about people in MMOs, nobody LIKES to play solo. However, people like to be able to make use of their time when there is not a group available. Group content is fun, but solo content is necessary.
ok let me ask that again
why is solo content necessary in a MMORPG ?
Why does it matter to you? If you don't want to solo you never have to. What have solos done to offend thee?Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
MASSIVE applies to the fact that there is a great number of people playing the game not that you NEED ALL those people to enjoy the game. If I was able to solo any dungeon in WoW I'd come back to the game with no problems because waiting to get a group, waiting untill your char arrives to some distant land on slow ass flying mounts (make it INSTANT for me I dont give a shit for all the pretty flying above forests, I've seen it once its enough) etc etc etc. If I wanted to wait on people just so I can continue playing the game I'd get a job as a WAITER.
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no , no , no , no
plz dont make this a flame war solo vs group
i dont want that at all
its the oposite , i want to know if people know why they play alone and for what reasons
you gave me a good reason , MMOs are alive , its what i said about the MALL
you like to play alone but feels better to do it in a place full of people
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I am not sure where or how you have gotten the opinion that most people like to play solo. Since I dont agree with, or understand the basis of this statement... The rest of your dialog is basically mute.
I dont understand the reason for your post. You have not asked for anything. You have not supported anything you have said. You have basically made a non sensical rant.
However... this MIGHT be an issue of language. This forum is international, and as such there are often miscommunications. On the presumption that this is the case, and trying to guess what you might have read... let me rephrase this:
Most people like (the option) to solo (in MMORPG games).
This statement has nothing to do with a person being alone. It has to do with the abilities of thier characters. They like to be empowered. The like to add value. They dont like to be limited in thier actions. Players like to be able to prove thier individual abilty, and as such be able to justify thier contribution to the group.
What they have asked for is individual value. That doesnt sound like a bad thing.
Look, in order to have a massive amount of people in a game.
You need diversity, some people like player interaction but not all the time
The more content they offer, the more player will play.
Those who underestimate the power of the human spirit are destined to fail...
Neoteo, the answer is simple. Because they want to.
That answer can be expanded upon, but there really isn't any need. They want to.
Simple as that.
There are various reasons why different people solo and they are all valid reasons. In 2007, one of the reasons why so many of the mmorpgs are becoming more and more solo friendly is the porting to consoles. Console players are used to and expect, solo play.
One of the mains reasons why I pay to play an MMOG and sometimes chose to play solo is because of the game world. Very few single player games have worlds to explore the size of Vanguard, WoW, SWG, and the like. Like it or not, many people want a huge game world that takes them years to fully explore. Sad fact is, most single player games don't deliver that, while the typical AAA MMOG does. As long as most of companies allow players to explore their world via solo play, the solo player is here to stay.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
I'm not trying to enrage a flame war either, but you must understand that threads like these are generally started by Groupers that believe solo players should be forced into grouping. Much like PvPer want everyone to be PvP all the time so they can be killed while shopping or what not.
Game makers make content that appeals to the broadest customer base so they can sell the most units. That means catering to solos and groupers. As long as the individual player has the choice of how to play the game, I really don't see why this should be an issue.
But as you said, you want to know why soloers play solo. I think you'll find that soloers do group, but they are very selective who they group with. It just depends on the size of their "monkey sphere". If you don't know what that is, I suggest you look it up on the web. It's a fascinating theory about social dynamics.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
plz dont be linear and bring GOOD AND BAD to this topic
i never said it was bad , i said i dont understand , and i think its a waste
everyone is free to do what they want i dont care , but i like to know why and make my conlusions.
so far the best reason is the size of worlds to explore , my friend that plays mmos also for the same reason , side note : he didnt fit in guildwars
i understand a game MUST have all the choices , becose i know how all kinds of people we have in the world.
what makes me think hard is why people pay to play a massive multiplayer game to play alone most of the time ...
the consoles factor is true , i hate the fact that even pc games are becoming more like consoles , with monkey prof interfaces , like obvilion.
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plz dont be linear and bring GOOD AND BAD to this topic
i never said it was bad , i said i dont understand , and i think its a waste
everyone is free to do what they want i dont care , but i like to know why and make my conlusions.
so far the best reason is the size of worlds to explore , my friend that plays mmos also for the same reason , side note : he didnt fit in guildwars
i understand a game MUST have all the choices , becose i know how all kinds of people we have in the world.
what makes me think hard is why people pay to play a massive multiplayer game to play alone most of the time ...
the consoles factor is true , i hate the fact that even pc games are becoming more like consoles , with monkey prof interfaces , like obvilion.
The only one introducing 'Good and Bad' into this topic is you (see above).
I have stateded that your statement does not appear to be true... and that you have not provided any support that it is.
I have tried to assist with your understanding, if it is based on a misunderstanding of language. I have explained the the term 'soling' or 'solo content' has nothing to do with whether a player is alone. It has to do with how the encounter is balanced against the skills of the characters.
You have yet to explain why you believe that people play alone, in a MMORPG. I dont agree with that belief, and your lack of explanation does not support your premise.
plz dont be linear and bring GOOD AND BAD to this topic
i never said it was bad , i said i dont understand , and i think its a waste
everyone is free to do what they want i dont care , but i like to know why and make my conlusions.
so far the best reason is the size of worlds to explore , my friend that plays mmos also for the same reason , side note : he didnt fit in guildwars
i understand a game MUST have all the choices , becose i know how all kinds of people we have in the world.
what makes me think hard is why people pay to play a massive multiplayer game to play alone most of the time ...
the consoles factor is true , i hate the fact that even pc games are becoming more like consoles , with monkey prof interfaces , like obvilion.
The only one introducing 'Good and Bad' into this topic is you (see above).
I have stateded that your statement does not appear to be true... and that you have not provided any support that it is.
I have tried to assist with your understanding, if it is based on a misunderstanding of language. I have explained the the term 'soling' or 'solo content' has nothing to do with whether a player is alone. It has to do with how the encounter is balanced against the skills of the characters.
You have yet to explain why you believe that people play alone, in a MMORPG. I dont agree with that belief, and your lack of explanation does not support your premise.
lol , you made me laught
first you said - What they have asked for is individual value. That doesnt sound like a bad thing.
and then i said - plz dont be linear and bring GOOD AND BAD to this topic
now you said - I have stateded that your statement does not appear to be true...
and now i say - plz dont be linear and bring TRUE OR FALSE to this topic
hahaha
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Blog - http://www.pierrecarlier.com/
i dont need to explain why i think most people play solo becose that is not the point
this question goes to all people that play more solo then grouping
doesnt matter if its the majority or not
if its not for you , it is still for me , my reality , my game experience
you know each person have a diferent notion of real
for me there are more people playing solo in mmos then grouping
this is just a feeling
and that feeling comes from the same reasons people are saying here that they play solo
its becose its time comsuning , its becose people are jerks and morons
basacly , people hate each other
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Blog - http://www.pierrecarlier.com/
plz dont be linear and bring GOOD AND BAD to this topic
i never said it was bad , i said i dont understand , and i think its a waste
everyone is free to do what they want i dont care , but i like to know why and make my conlusions.
so far the best reason is the size of worlds to explore , my friend that plays mmos also for the same reason , side note : he didnt fit in guildwars
i understand a game MUST have all the choices , becose i know how all kinds of people we have in the world.
what makes me think hard is why people pay to play a massive multiplayer game to play alone most of the time ...
the consoles factor is true , i hate the fact that even pc games are becoming more like consoles , with monkey prof interfaces , like obvilion.
The only one introducing 'Good and Bad' into this topic is you (see above).
I have stateded that your statement does not appear to be true... and that you have not provided any support that it is.
I have tried to assist with your understanding, if it is based on a misunderstanding of language. I have explained the the term 'soling' or 'solo content' has nothing to do with whether a player is alone. It has to do with how the encounter is balanced against the skills of the characters.
You have yet to explain why you believe that people play alone, in a MMORPG. I dont agree with that belief, and your lack of explanation does not support your premise.
lol , you made me laught
first you said - What they have asked for is individual value. That doesnt sound like a bad thing.
and then i said - plz dont be linear and bring GOOD AND BAD to this topic
now you said - I have stateded that your statement does not appear to be true...
and now i say - plz dont be linear and bring TRUE OR FALSE to this topic
hahaha
You have made a statement similar to "The world is flat".
I have stated that my personal experience does not show this to be true... and have asked for you to explain why you believe it to be true.
You have stated that you wish to understand "Why the world is flat". I cant explain that, as I dont believe it to be true.
You have asked that we do not discuss whether your premise is correct... yet, that is how you would gain understanding...
I will leave it up to you, we can discuss your premise... or not. If not, why did you post here?
sorry for triple post
its very obvius for me why soloing makes the game much easyer
why a group needs a leader ?
if everyone does what he wants the chances of failing are huge
people are not educated to socialize , this is the real answer
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there has been all kinds of complaining about this and grouping. Some peeps only have a little while to play and others have much longer so the one person solos while the othe groups and socializes more. The Soloers AKA casual players complain about the way you have to group to get anywhere in the game and the groupers complain about the ability to solo though the entire game so peeps won't goup up. Its a never ending battle
plz dont be linear and bring GOOD AND BAD to this topic
i never said it was bad , i said i dont understand , and i think its a waste
everyone is free to do what they want i dont care , but i like to know why and make my conlusions.
so far the best reason is the size of worlds to explore , my friend that plays mmos also for the same reason , side note : he didnt fit in guildwars
i understand a game MUST have all the choices , becose i know how all kinds of people we have in the world.
what makes me think hard is why people pay to play a massive multiplayer game to play alone most of the time ...
the consoles factor is true , i hate the fact that even pc games are becoming more like consoles , with monkey prof interfaces , like obvilion.
The only one introducing 'Good and Bad' into this topic is you (see above).
I have stateded that your statement does not appear to be true... and that you have not provided any support that it is.
I have tried to assist with your understanding, if it is based on a misunderstanding of language. I have explained the the term 'soling' or 'solo content' has nothing to do with whether a player is alone. It has to do with how the encounter is balanced against the skills of the characters.
You have yet to explain why you believe that people play alone, in a MMORPG. I dont agree with that belief, and your lack of explanation does not support your premise.
lol , you made me laught
first you said - What they have asked for is individual value. That doesnt sound like a bad thing.
and then i said - plz dont be linear and bring GOOD AND BAD to this topic
now you said - I have stateded that your statement does not appear to be true...
and now i say - plz dont be linear and bring TRUE OR FALSE to this topic
hahaha
You have made a statement similar to "The world is flat".
I have stated that my personal experience does not show this to be true... and have asked for you to explain why you believe it to be true.
You have stated that you wish to understand "Why the world is flat". I cant explain that, as I dont believe it to be true.
You have asked that we do not discuss whether your premise is correct... yet, that is how you would gain understanding...
I will leave it up to you, we can discuss your premise... or not. If not, why did you post here?
i did , in this last 2 years of mmo gaming , most people i have meet prefer to play solo
what can i say more about why i believe most people play solo ...
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That's a dangerous, blanket statement. People don't necessarily hate each other, and not all people on mmos are jerks and morons. You're looking for a simple answer that generalizes a large group of people and that answer is often derrogatory. There is no simple, catch-all answer to your question. And the more blanket statements you make on the subject, the more it sounds like you are flaming soloers.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
yes , but IM NOT COMPLAINIG
i dont want to change the world
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That's a dangerous, blanket statement. People don't necessarily hate each other, and not all people on mmos are jerks and morons. You're looking for a simple answer that generalizes a large group of people and that answer is often derrogatory. There is no simple, catch-all answer to your question. And the more blanket statements you make on the subject, the more it sounds like you are flaming soloers.
thats becose this forum is 100% black or white , people are linear
the jerks and morons was not me saying , if you read all posts you will see where that came from
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