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Bill would make pot legal in state

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  • Spy_HIppoSpy_HIppo Member Posts: 322
    yea,if the enviorment is the only defense you got then you are against almost everything and are hypocrite cause you have damaged it to. so I got two word for you SUCK IT!!!!

    My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.

  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Originally posted by Spy_HIppo

    yea,if the enviorment is the only defense you got then you are against almost everything and are hypocrite cause you have damaged it to. so I got two word for you SUCK IT!!!!
    Oh just grow up.
  • Spy_HIppoSpy_HIppo Member Posts: 322
    here,I'll make a poll for what you believe

    My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.

  • dratinidratini Member Posts: 74
    Well if you take drugs you may hurt your friends or anyone who comes in your way too stop you, for taking drugs.

    that's what i meant, i don't now what else too say about drugs.



    It's stupid

    I got two Words for you

    SUCK IT!

  • PyritePyrite Member Posts: 309

     



    Originally posted by Draenor

    Smoking pot does not impede motor skills? Right sure, tell that to all of the stoned friends that I have hung out with in the past...sorry but there is no way in hell that you're ever going to convince me that the hand eye coordination of someone high on marijuana is the same as someone who is sober.

    Sometimes they're just plain better. Team NarF (Narcotics are Fun) dominated Return to Castle Wolfenstein during its hayday. And these guys smoked like chimneys.

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  • Spy_HIppoSpy_HIppo Member Posts: 322
    well,I guess some drugs could tear friendship,but if this does it tears you away from people who didn't really get you. All in all pot doesn't

    P.S. did you know that the bands that don't suck did drugs:pretty much any good one from 50's starting with elvis(he wasn't the first ones though-60'sbringing around hippies and still some great bands-70's youu get even better ones and have great ones like Led Zepplen-80's all those songs that you love for some reason and can't get out of your head-pretty much after that point music went down hill. there have been some good bands but not many

    My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.

  • parklife101parklife101 Member Posts: 22

    well he made the Xbox im pretty sure he or she really no one knows, would make pot leagl

     

     

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  • atrejuatreju Member Posts: 60
    Legalizing pot got just too many advantages that there must be some odd reason we do not know or do not understand that it didn't already happen.



    Above everything else the most critical success about making pot legal would be that you or your kids wont ever have to get in touch with shady dealers to shop weed. So if you go to your local tobacco store or supermarket, the salesmen there wont ask you if you might like to kick some ACID, E or coke for a change.



    The other thing is that since pot doesn't ruin lives by smoking some now and then, it can fuck you badly if you get criminalized because you had bad luck and some freak neighbour or "upright" citizen watched you enjoying a joint. Please think about that, a guy who might never had done any bad, never robbed or hurt someone, everyday doing his dull job, meaning no harm to the society at all is made a criminal and gets his life ruined for just smoking some little joint, sitting on a parkbench in the evening?



    Like cigarrettes, pot would have a tax on it so buying pot would actually support the society as a whole. (That argument is a bit shakey actually, heh...)

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    On the other hand if pot would seriously become legal I'm convinced that some restrictions would be very necessary.



    Especially the youngsters here might bash me for that but there is one thing about pot many never mention. Smoking marijuana demands having a well developed and steady spirit. You can never tell if sixteen years old random guy Y has such a steady spirit then twentyone years old random guy X and that Y should actually be allowed to already smoke pot. It could even be like that random guy X's spirit isn't really steady enough yet to dive into the pleasures of hallucinogens _but_ with twentyone years of age you are considered an adult so if there wasn't some weird "psycho-test" if you are good with smoking weed (what would of course be super impossible to do for a whole nation) you need atleast that age restriction to avoid throwing the nation into a state where maybe fourty percent of all inhabitants become "ganja-fetishists" who stopped doing everything else except watching cartoons, eating unusually high amounts of candy and are cool with forever masturbating.



    Also very important would be applying severe laws regarding "stoned driving" or using heavy machines while being stoned, any drunk, stoned or extremely tired driver is a potential killer, hands down.



    And for the sake of people's lungs it would be essential to sell "readymade" joints, making it much easier to keep record of how much you consume and making it possible to apply proper filters to the joints. It's not the tar or any chemicals in the weed/tobacco mix that really harm the lungs, it's the high temperature of the smoke one inhales what severly burns these tiny hairlike projections (cilia) sitting in the bronchial tubes of the lung. In fact these "cilia" move up all the dirt what got into ones lungs mostley while sleeping, you can notice if you fucked up your "cilia" if you first have to cough some five to ten minutes after waking up. Regarding regeneration, "cilia" behave very alike to eyelashes and if someone ever accidently burned his eyelashes, he does know how extremely slow they grow back.



    Still the damage alcohol causes to the leper or too much coffee causes to the heart or even too much salt causes for ones veins is a lot more dangerous then the bad side-effects pot causes to our human bodies. In fact what can be damaged by marijuana is ones mind and will and that to a degree where a persons social behauvior changes that critically that he/she will no longer be able to fullfill the expectations the society demands of us what finally gets the person into shitloads of unwanted trouble - losing the job, exaggerated feelings of having a bad conciouss, losing sight of ones kids, wife, family, paranoia... actually that kind of stuff you get from playing MMORPGs in a too exzessive way too.

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  • MylonMylon Member Posts: 975
    Why the heck is this even a topic?  Pot is no worse than alcohol.  Every argument used against pot can be used to the same effect (or more so) against alcohol.



    If anything cigarettes should be made to be illegal.  At least, cigarettes as we know them.  I've hated cigarettes with a passion, yet I've tried some (mostly) natural tobacco through a water pipe and it wasn't bad.  I'm surprised coca-cola doesn't contain nicotine.  Or why the regulations that keeps our foods form containing tons of toxic chemicals are not applied to cigarettes.

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  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253
    Originally posted by Mylon

    Why the heck is this even a topic?  Pot is no worse than alcohol.  Every argument used against pot can be used to the same effect (or more so) against alcohol.



    If anything cigarettes should be made to be illegal.  At least, cigarettes as we know them.  I've hated cigarettes with a passion, yet I've tried some (mostly) natural tobacco through a water pipe and it wasn't bad.  I'm surprised coca-cola doesn't contain nicotine.  Or why the regulations that keeps our foods form containing tons of toxic chemicals are not applied to cigarettes.



    In terms of the cost to the health systems (therefore taxpayers). Alcohol and Tobacco individually cost more than every other illicit drug combined. Together there is no other factor including road tolls, war, etc etc that takes as many lives and costs as much money.

    But hey.... most politicians and the poeple that support them have never let facts get in the way of a good argument.

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  • Zerocool032Zerocool032 Member Posts: 729

     

    Originally posted by modjoe86

    If they legalize marijuana they better legalize cocaine and opiates, too. I don't see any reasons potheads should get special treatment just because their illegal drug of choice is better accepted.



    Well marijuana is one of the safest theraputically active substances.  The only reason it is illegal was because of politics back in the early 1900's.

    No death has ever been recorded from use..  There is no reason it should be illegal.

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  • Spy_HIppoSpy_HIppo Member Posts: 322
    so....not everyone here is an idiot saying it does bad things with nothing to back that defense up. Pot can actually do good things. Usually when an asshole goes on it they become better and nicer people. And(not to sound like broken record) the legal drugs are worse than this.

    My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.

  • EggFteggEggFtegg Member Posts: 1,141

    When you're smoking pot regularly, it's easy to get in the mindset that it's all good. I've heard most of the arguments and probably used many myself in the past. While it is not physically addictive like some substances, it certainly can be mentally addictive. If you've spent hours calling round vague aquaintances and chasing up any possible dealers or gone through your carpet with a comb just becasue you've run out of smoke, then you know what I mean. Socially addictive...groups of friends where you can't have an evening without someone skinning up.

    Studies also show links with depression, although it might be reasonable to argue that depressed people take up smoking to get some relief. If you use it regularly though, it can keep you from solving problems in your life, just because when you smoke, those problems aren't so important. It can be easy to get on a downward spiral - I've seen it happen a few times to people. I've also known people who continue to get paranoia attacks, months after stopping.

    So let's not fool ourselves that there are no down sides. Having said that, it can aid creativity, music sounds better, you can expand your thinking and it can make you laugh like a mad man, not to mention the dozens of medical uses.

    Should it be illegal in my opinion? Hell no! I'd decriminalise pretty much all drug use, myself. I had a friend (he's dead now) who wouldn't get help for his heroin addiction because he was worried about being on file as a criminal. When you have laws that achieve that, they're clearly bad laws. Combine that with the amount of people getting ill or dying from using drugs cut with something else, or selling horse tranquilizers as ecstacy pills and we have laws that don't work and often do more harm than good. Pretty much everything else I would have to say has been covered by Penn and Teller

  • Spy_HIppoSpy_HIppo Member Posts: 322
    I agree with that mostly,but it isn't addictive at all. You know how easy it is to quit. One day I decided to lay off it for a while cause I didn't like the smell very much.(kinda strong smell) I was able to quit it so easy I didn't even try anything to get me off of it. Wasn't mentally addictive at all.

    My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.

  • outfctrloutfctrl Member UncommonPosts: 3,619
    I actually had withdrawals in a weird way.  I quit around 88' and what happened to me was I couldnt get to sleep.  I tossed and turned for about a week. 

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  • modjoe86modjoe86 Member UncommonPosts: 4,050
    Originally posted by Spy_HIppo

    I agree with that mostly,but it isn't addictive at all. You know how easy it is to quit. One day I decided to lay off it for a while cause I didn't like the smell very much.(kinda strong smell) I was able to quit it so easy I didn't even try anything to get me off of it. Wasn't mentally addictive at all.
    But I assume you picked the habit back up? I really don't think pot should be illegal either, but stop trying to make it sound like there are no harmful things associated with pot. People with addictive personalities can easily become dependent. As a result, I have one friend that is dead, one that is in prison, and one major drug dealer. All three of these lives were ruined as a direct result of marijuana.



    That's not to say that it's just as bad as many other substances, but it is not a gift from God by any stretch.



    Personally I just find the demographic associated with potheads to be annoying. I have plenty of friends that smoke all the time, and that is all their life revolves around. Yea, they still go to college and get good grades, yea they have a job, but every second of their leisure time revolves around sitting around getting blazed. I'm not trying to knock anyone's personal choices, but I'd rather not associate with such folks.



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  • necrotherionnecrotherion Member Posts: 130
    Originally posted by Zerocool032


     
    Originally posted by modjoe86

    If they legalize marijuana they better legalize cocaine and opiates, too. I don't see any reasons potheads should get special treatment just because their illegal drug of choice is better accepted.



    Well marijuana is one of the safest theraputically active substances.  The only reason it is illegal was because of politics back in the early 1900's.

    No death has ever been recorded from use..  There is no reason it should be illegal.





    Dude, I watched ur sig for 5 mins. lmao.



    Well, I'm 16 yrs old, I smoke weed, I pull off 80s and am kinda athletic (I've went to track and filed comps, but no team sports :D). I don't see anything wrong with it. It's true, alcohol makes you behave way worse, you get into fights and shit, with weed you just mellow out, you shouldn't drive a car in either state, wut the problem is?



    Oh btw I disagree with the post I just quoted. Smoking weed is smoking, people die from smoking. No matter what you smoke. Lung Cancer n shit. But no one has died from overdosing or w/e.



    Man, if weed was legal...its so easy to grow...farmers would grow it...would it be cheaper than cigarettes!? Nice to dream, ain't it...
  • Spy_HIppoSpy_HIppo Member Posts: 322
    I seriously don't think weed causes lung cancer as bad as tobacco. Tobacco has a different and more deadly substance in it.

    My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.

  • necrotherionnecrotherion Member Posts: 130
    Originally posted by Spy_HIppo

    I seriously don't think weed causes lung cancer as bad as tobacco. Tobacco has a different and more deadly substance in it.
    Truesay. Tobacco has what, 4000 chemicals in it, as they teach us? Well, whatever, they also teach us that a joint has one and a half times as much tar as a cigarette. My point is that they both cause lung cancer, not whether one causes it worse :) ...



    Because...looking at my friend's greenish yellow homegrown weed...and then looking at the yellowish brown tobacco grass...I think you're right :D.
  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586
    Originally posted by necrotherion

    Originally posted by Spy_HIppo

    I seriously don't think weed causes lung cancer as bad as tobacco. Tobacco has a different and more deadly substance in it.
    Truesay. Tobacco has what, 4000 chemicals in it, as they teach us? Well, whatever, they also teach us that a joint has one and a half times as much tar as a cigarette. My point is that they both cause lung cancer, not whether one causes it worse :) ...



    Because...looking at my friend's greenish yellow homegrown weed...and then looking at the yellowish brown tobacco grass...I think you're right :D.

    If it was legalized I wonder how many chemicals would be added to a joint from the big manufacturing companies.

    Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!

  • necrotherionnecrotherion Member Posts: 130
    Well, now that I've read every post and followed every link in this article (including that Wii one, LMAO), I sincerely think everyone in the world who doesn't know a thing about weed should watch that episode of Penn & Teller. I think that they present some very valid (albeit supposedly controversial) material, and I bet them taxpayers down south in the States would feel really indignant on how their money is going to waste (and they proved it, I can testify to that). My favourite quote was how the people are brainwashed...I sincerely think they are.



    It has always been a point I've used that alcohol causes more damage than weed, in many respects, and it's nice to have someone I know and respect to back it up with solid fact (which some people refuse to research because they are so assured of their programmed, justified righteousness).



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  • necrotherionnecrotherion Member Posts: 130
    Originally posted by Briansho

    Originally posted by necrotherion

    Originally posted by Spy_HIppo

    I seriously don't think weed causes lung cancer as bad as tobacco. Tobacco has a different and more deadly substance in it.
    Truesay. Tobacco has what, 4000 chemicals in it, as they teach us? Well, whatever, they also teach us that a joint has one and a half times as much tar as a cigarette. My point is that they both cause lung cancer, not whether one causes it worse :) ...



    Because...looking at my friend's greenish yellow homegrown weed...and then looking at the yellowish brown tobacco grass...I think you're right :D.

    If it was legalized I wonder how many chemicals would be added to a joint from the big manufacturing companies.

    The thing is, tobacco's been manufactured by big factories for a long time. There's not too many people I know who grow it by themselves. My relatives in an obscure Russian village in the middle of nowhere do, and they're living long and healthy lives.



    I think that people would realize any change in quality, having been previously smoking homegrown weed, and could opt to not buy weed from large scale farms. I know of weed was legal, I'd grow in the backyard, because I happen to like gardening. I'm sure many people would as well.
  • atrejuatreju Member Posts: 60
    Originally posted by Briansho



    If it was legalized I wonder how many chemicals would be added to a joint from the big manufacturing companies.
    You can bet there would be special brands advertising with "offering only the pure shnizzle" and being "100% biological no gene-manipulated super duper no chemicals - the farmer's shit".... and if they would even put, let's say a pink ape on the pack, any pothead would buy these

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