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Waaah! WoW stole MY graphics!
LittleKove
Member Posts: 5
Okay, let's set things straight for a moment.
I am sitting here and just laughing at all you WAR fainbois who are so quick to point out that it was WoW that STOLE WAR graphics and that's why WAR looks cartoonish and resembles WoW. Every post I read on this forum has someone stating this like it's some important thing. First, I was just annoyed at it, but now it's actually amusing. If there ever was a better excuse to make the product you are in love with try to look original. It's like two kids in a sandbox having an argument: "I was here first! Waaah!"
Let's face it, folks. Even if this is true, and it very well may be, only a select number of you will know that. The truth is that 95% of WAR players will not know this, and for them, this game will just look like a WoW graphics knockoff.
Honestly, many people have pointed it out already that from the screenshots, this game looks like WoW. In fact, my first impression on seeing the first screenshot (before knowing WAR was coming out) was: Oh, a new monster in WoW! Then I found out about WAR 
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So, let's stop this foolishness. Let the game be what it is. It looks like WoW, and deying it while pointing out that someone stole some graphics from someone else is just being childish. WoW came out first, and everyone will equivocate those graphics with WoW. WAR has some work to do if it wants to be original... or it can stay as it is, and if you all just let it be, it may still be a good game with WoW-like graphics. Nothing wrong with that.
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Some Stereotypes have to be served
I find this particular "Game-War" very amusing too.
MaDSaM
Do you dare to adapt?
You must not be familiar with old school gamers. If you think A ton of people getting together to indulge in a fantasy world and wage war on one another is a new thing with the MMoRPG format, you should glance back a bit, and see what a monster of a game Warhammer was, and is. Worked at a hobby shop that stocked warhammer , ral partha, chronopia, and a few other tabletop games, along with at least 300 pen and paper RPG systems. I was really shocked at how much Warhammer gear that shop moved.
If you are just here to flame and troll well, enjoy. If you really are interested in the artistic differences, you'll probably have to do what everyone else is doing and wait for retail. Warhammer games have always seemed to hold to a darker scheme of things. Almost want to say gritty. Post up some concept wow art, and lets compare how their first run of things compare to the insanely large library of warhammer artwork. Then for fun how about you look up how much lore has been developed for Warhammer over the last decade. Oh, and that small minority you think that know about warhammer? God forbid you find out about the thousands upon thousands of Gaming Cons that have happened with tons and tons of War players from all over the globe. But those happened before you first logged online I'm sure, and you couldn't be bothered with finding out any facts.
Hope you manage to bring a little more intelligence to the table next time you post.
Just a Fool,
Ivan
What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...
Uhm.... what? At first I thought you were replying to a wrong thread
Your second paragraph at least contributes something to the conversation. But see... that's just it. You are proving my theory. Another knee-jerk reaction to quickly point that Warhammer is the granddady of it all. As an argument, you bring the point that much lore has been developed for Warhammer over the last decade. And that there are thousands of players across the globe interested in it. I never denied it. Clearly my knowledge of the Warhammer world is not as good as yours, but I never said that the game or the world itself was bad. Quite the contrary, I asume it is very rich and probably quite amazing.
But my point actually was... which you missed completely... that all the above doesn't matter when it comes to graphics. When the game goes live, the majority of people who will play it will not be previous Warhammer fans. Just like the majority of WoW players were not WoW fans. And same with SW Galaxies. Entire new waves of gamers will pick it up, and they will know very little about Warhammer till then. Now, when those gamers look at the screenshot, they see WoW graphic rip off, and I find it amusing how the Warhammer die-hards jump to the gun to let everyone know that it was WoW that STOLE those graphics from Warhammer. Who cares? The new waves of players won't know that, and they don't know that now, when they see a very WoW look-alike screenshot of WAR.
So, if you like the game, do it some justice. Let it be what it is. Graphics are not new nor original. FACE IT! Who cares who was first. Who cares who knows about it. Graphically, it looks just like a WoW knock-off and that tells me about the game already.
As to your parting shot... wow, what a mature statement. You really got me now! Thankfully, your signature does you justice. Try to out-grow it.
As long as it plays like WAR and not WoW, i dont really give one.
Sorry you fail to see how my reply addresses your original post. If you really fail to understand my reply.. and aren't just trying to be a troll let me know.
I'll step down a few levels though lets see... how about...
" So yours is just another 'knee-jerk reaction to quickly point that' Warhammer graphics shown in an alpha build resemble WOW? "
Or if you'd rather I can deconstruct your 'reply'...
"Where was I in any way commenting on the popularity of Warhammer?"
"...only a select number of you will know that. The truth is that 95% of WAR players will not know this..."
"When the game goes live, the majority of people who will play it will not be previous Warhammer fans."
This implies you have a good grasp of the warhammer series fanbase, which I do not believe you do. If a quarter of the Warhammer table top players pick up this MMo it will turn into another good run for Mythic, not to mention the DAoC players that will come over. You might wonder why I'd mention the DAoC players, they will have an idea on how Mythic makes its games. DAoC when it came out, was packed full of real world mythology. Yeah that sounds absurd, but they really delved into three different ancient mythos for quests, characters, the whole feel of the realms. Now apply that Dev team to a fantasy world already full of lore, artwork etc. , if you really think the feel and look of the game will be WoW incarnate #55559384 . It just seems to me you are ignorant.
Oh and yes I am proud to be a fool, hope I never outgrow it till I'm dead and buried. If you think my suggestion to bring more intelligence is a bad one, feel free to get dumber in your next replies.
Just a Fool,
Ivan
Graphics are graphics, EQ2 looks like VG, WAR looks like WoW, dont judge a game on screen shots.. play it.
WoW with EQ2 style gfx would break the franchise and WoW world, as its basd on the RTS games. Just as WAR with EQ2 style graphics would break the comics, cartoons, and RTS games.
What realy gets me is all the
Both games use similar gfx style (and have done for over a decade) GET OVER IT!, neither is right or wrong. Cry "WoW stole WAR gfx" all you like it dont make a difference, WAR gfx will always be compared to WoW gfx because WoW came first... its the way these things work.
Honestly, this game could steal the WoW character models and I would still pick it up. I'm going to be playing it for the game play, the PvP, the PvE, and the RvR. I'm going to play WAR because of who is developing it and how closely they are working with the original manufacturer to create a fully enveloping experience of a fantasy world. I'm going to play the game with the hope that it stays fun for me beyond level 60.
Mythic is a tried and true developer and they are being given the opportunity to really show what sort of ideas they can produce on a truly massive scale. Do I see this as a WoW-killer? No, I see it as having the potential of providing good competition. Ultimately, wouldn't both games be more fun if the developers had to WORK at keeping their customers?
WoW/Blizzard have been a juggernaut of the gaming industry for so long (and it obviously still is, considering the BC release sales and the now over 8 million subscribers), that perhaps by December, sitting fat and sassy upon a huge pile of loots, they will be overthrown by a sparky up-and-comer.
Wouldn't it be delicious to see WAR steal 2 or 3 million customers out from under Blizzard's palm with fresh ideas, creative game play devices and truly balanced, fun characters causing Blizzard to look at their game and perhaps think, 'This used to work, but obviously we missed something!'
Why would WAR need to do more to look original, if they work on their license which has been around for more than 25-years? They don't want to be original compared to WoW, they want to stay close to their own IP. To me, WAR promised many original things: RvR is one, PvE to a newer level: "Mobs seem to work together, lay out ambushes, wolves actually stalk the lands in packs, instead of running A-B-A-B-etc. like WoW. You can level and do everything you could in PvP as well, public quests and many many more..." these are just a few examples of what makes WAR original to other games, perhaps to some it's only a small degree, but it is at least something.
About your statement: Hey, a new WoW-mob, oh wait, it's WAR... I don't know what mob you saw, but I presume it was either an Orc or a Wolf. An Orc is an Orc, it is green and has tusks protruding from his lower jaw, that is not only in WAR and WoW, but also in countless other games, if you want an example: TES-series, such as Morrowind and Oblivion. To me, the Warhammer-Orc looks different, if you compare screenshots, graphical Warhammer is superior in my perspective, just an image:
What I want to make out of this, is that every game has his own style to visual something, this is especially shown by comparing of the wolves. All I see with the Orcs is that they are green and to my opinion the WoW and TES-Orc less distinct from eachother than the WAR-Orc, the only thing that the WAR and WoW-Orc have here is that their shoulderpads have spikes and they are green.
The people who stille think they are the same kind of Orc, either need glasses or refresh their common sense: An Orc is an Orc, in anyway, 'Orc' is ancient English for green demon anyway. If I use the arguments of people claiming that someone rip-offed, then they could also bash games because humans look lookalike, or mechs, or cars, or buildings. It is rubbish. Every game has his own style. WoW is rumoured to rip-off Warhammer, but this might not be the fact, it is a rumour. But one thing is certain, Warhammer did not rip-off Warcraft, that is impossible or incredibely stupid to claim. That's like saying the Vikings rip-offed their historical looks by the drawings of Barbarians in the present. Or perhaps they watched Conan and then decided to go Viking all the way... you know how stupid that sounds.
"Mobs seem to work together, lay out ambushes, wolves actually stalk the lands in packs, instead of running A-B-A-B-etc"
AI claims have yet to really pan out, Dragon Empires was claming great and wonderful AI, Oblivion had to dumb down their AI before they shipped. I'd like to believe and see a great new AI system with dynamic mob spawns, mob aging, and full ecosystems. I'm not going to hold my breathe though.
Oh and thanks for the screenshots images. WAR looks dirty and gritty, hope the feel of gameplay is closer to DAoC than WoW.
It would be almost as much fun to be at Blizzard to watch them scramble.
So many game have claimed the 'Best AI to Date!', but so few deliver. Mythic is as good a choice as any to break that streak though, so I'm gonna go ahead and hold my breath. I have a hard time seeing them pushing something that wasn't exactly what they wanted out the door, especially when they know everybody is watching.
I'm gonna set the table now in order to possibly eat those words in a year. I'll be the one turning blue holding a fork and knife.
At this stage my opinion is that WAR is more skill based than WoW, with less dependancy on gear, and a focus on PvP instead of PvE. Ill tell you more when i actually play it
thats what im going to do... what did i say that didnt give you that impression?
i played WoW for a long time and enjoyed it, then one day i realised that if i wanted to get better at PvP (why i played) i had to go raiding. that just killed it for me, even though this is no longer true, WoW no longer has that special place in my gaming heart.
well over it thanks. what exactly in my post made you think that i wasnt?
I dont want blizzrd to lose business really, I want the other MMo players to come back to the genre for WAR. WAR succeeding doesn't really have anything to do with WoW's subscriber base in my opinion. Give me the blood thirsty Doac RVR killers before buff botting and elite geared 8 man hack users roamed the frontiers..
" Now, when those gamers look at the screenshot, they see WoW graphic rip off,"
Why do you call those ppl gamers? WoW is not the beggining of the universe, so maybe yoe're talking about WoW-fanboys, 'cause gamers could also tell - "hey, WoW is WC3 rip off". I mean c'mon - it looks like WC3 but MMO instead of RTS. WC3 is based on WC2, WC2 on WC, WC - you can tell about WH rip off now.
I don't give a shit about all that "this looks like that" stuff. It's ok when you say "these games are quite similiar." But if someone starts with "WAR = WoW rip off" stuff, he's just a blind fanboy, who hasn't seen anything else, because WoW isn't first game that was ever created - it's also based (or, as some like to say "it's a rip off") on some earlier stuff.
"I am not bound to please thee with my answers"
Shylock [The Arden Shakespeare The Marchant Of Venice]
At this stage my opinion is that WAR is more skill based than WoW, with less dependancy on gear, and a focus on PvP instead of PvE. Ill tell you more when i actually play it
thats what im going to do... what did i say that didnt give you that impression?
i played WoW for a long time and enjoyed it, then one day i realised that if i wanted to get better at PvP (why i played) i had to go raiding. that just killed it for me, even though this is no longer true, WoW no longer has that special place in my gaming heart.
well over it thanks. what exactly in my post made you think that i wasnt?
Sorry only the first point was in reply to your post, the others were just general points.WAR Orc
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Not another one of these... sheesh!
WoW is based on Orcs and Goblins, so is WAR... How else are these going to look? The graphics aren't even the same, they're on a completely different Engine!
The argument isn't about the graphics, it's the fact that WAR looks like WoW... as in Goblins, Orcs and whatnot. I personally couldn't care less what any game is based on, as i don't do all this RP'ing stuff. As long as the gameplay is good that's all that matters for me, and yes, perhaps Blizzard stole GW's looks and ideas, but i don't care! STFU and create a good PvP game!!!
As for these threads; Piss off! It's been done.
-iCeh
Entire new waves of gamers will pick it up, and they will know very little about Warhammer till then. Now, when those gamers look at the screenshot, they see WoW graphic rip off
Then it's our job to educate those morons with no gaming culture
What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...
Orc comparison
Dwarf comparison
I can see clear differences between the two pic's, an example is that the armor isn't painted on the characters skin like the WoW character's armor is...
Drama Drama and Drama, *bla bla bla*
Anyway, Im gonno try Warhammer Online when its out.
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Warhammer has always looked like that. It has always explored a humorist twist in every book, games and such that came out, they seriously didn't copy WOW. To be fair, if WAR went realistic, people would say it looks like Lord of the Ring lol... Same thing applies to a sword that glows... what is the first thing you think when you see that ? .... Jedis!
Blizzard however is using commun culture as their humor twist. Totaly different cup of tea, totaly different style and world
Just think about Starcraft... hummm... predators, Xenomorphs and Warhammer marines... hummmmmm....... :P
People always reject something but in the end, they never know what they want instead. What do people expect? That WAR goes with elfs with 4 pairsof ears and orcs with 6 arms? A Medieval Fantasy world can only go so far... You can't seriously think that it's going to look over the top unique.
Think about it for a minute!