Thank you to those who criticized Vanguard

anarchyart

Now I'm not talking about trolls who made up lies about Vanguard just to bash it. But we Vanguard fans owe a debt of gratitude to those who did have an honest opinion and criticized Vanguard vocally.

The state of the game now is amazing. I don't get any hitching anymore, my quests ALL work, I could go on and on but you get the point. The game is looking fantastic! Those people who made a point of criticizing the state of the open beta really did help light a fire under the devs butts. I have never seen a game this much improved....ever.

So before you start making anymore threads that say "Nana look at Vanguard now" or calling people who criticized Vanguard cry babies and look how awesome it is now you were all wrong, appreciate the part they played in really scaring the devs into working their asses off to get Vanguard in the delightful condition it is today.

Thanks guys, you really did help. I for one appreciate it.

DuraheLL

Ok ^^ I hope the game delivers

HatsAndCats

Originally posted by DuraheLL

Ok ^^ I hope the game delivers

Its delivering now... ^_^

FullMetalAlc

Originally posted by Xabora

Originally posted by DuraheLL

Ok ^^ I hope the game delivers

Its delivering now... ^_^ I didn't know Digiorno's Pizza makes mmorpgs.

AmbassadorDvinn

Originally posted by FullMetalAlc

Originally posted by Xabora

Originally posted by DuraheLL

Ok ^^ I hope the game delivers

Its delivering now... ^_^ I didn't know Digiorno's Pizza makes mmorpgs.

Haha!

w175jab

Agreed

b4t3m4n

I want pizza

Harafnir

Hungry now.... Damn you Vanguard.

brihtwulf

I've been one who has offered a lot of criticism for Vanguard since they lifted the NDA.  I have to say that they HAVE done a lot of work to bring this game out in the best shape they could given the time.  Many of the issues I have pointed out as negatives have been fixed, and if they keep up the progress level they have been at, it will be much better in a short period of time.  There are still things that need to be done and fixed, but for the most part it's a playable, mostly complete game.  My only hope is that they will continue to put out the necessary patches and improvements the game still needs.

squeaky1

The quests are not all working.  As of yesterday, I have still been having problems with bugs in some of the quests.

"You are unable to accept to accept this quest."  is one from yesterday.  I also found out that if you have more than one of the Kojani Jin Beast Hunter quests at a time, the game will take your item without finishing the quest.  I did them three times before figuring that out.

That being said, I am having a good time with the game.

morpin

I (and I think a lot of other people) are having very serious problems with FPS.  I am getting a max of 10 FPS. 

I have gone thorugh the settings and turned all the video options down, but with everything turned off I get maybe 11 FPS.

Granted my machine is a bit dated - 1 AMD 1.9 GHZ 2 Gig Memory with ATi Radedon 9600 256 Meg memory, but it should be getting some decent FPS.

 

scottns

Sorry but your video card was old 2 years ago...

jeff1032

Yes....vanguard developers are now experiencing crunch time (23 1/2 hour work days) Unfortunately they will need a break sometime, but hopefully they fix everything we want before they die from lack of sleep/caffiene poisoning



P.S. Morpin. Check your processes to see if you are running a whole load of crap

premierebori

It's not delivery, it's Vanguard!

Deathstrike2

Originally posted by FullMetalAlc

Originally posted by Xabora

Originally posted by DuraheLL

Ok ^^ I hope the game delivers

Its delivering now... ^_^I didn't know Digiorno's Pizza makes mmorpgs.

30 mintues or less, or you get ganked for free 

Phoenixs

I'm glad I could help



But there still a ton left to do, so I would stop complaining yet, the game isn't all there yet...

Kyleran

Yeah, i'm having fps issues as well, but that's ok...just gives me a reason to upgrade sometime later this year.....

Praxus

The game is great. I was in beta since 2005 and even very recently was unsure whether I'd buy it.

I did, and I must say I'm impressed as heck. All the hitching and crappy performance basically disappeared in the last couple of weeks.

I run a 2 year old P4 3.4 ghz, 1.5 gig ram and geforce 6800 - and I run quite well at Balanced resolution, 1024x768.



Looks like I may have found the mmorpg 'home' I've been waiting for since EQ1. We'll see once I get some more levels!

tevans

Not trying to criticize or start a flamewar but if VG:SoH is a 3rd gen game then the online gaming industry is in a lot of trouble. After a 6 hour preorder download and patch operation, I've been playing this game for two days. This game just doesn't cut it. There's nothing groundbreaking or earth shattering about it. It's all been done before and in most cases a lot better. I understand launch day bugs and glitches but some of the things I've seen in this game are absolutely unacceptable. My system meets or exceeds the recommended requirements and yet it is laggy beyond belief. I've run EQ2 on balanced or higher settings and it ran smooth as silk. This game is choppy even on high performance with sound turned off. As if that wasn't enough the starting area that I'm in has white flickering with numbers in the background. How am I supposed to play like that? It's a bug and I'm sure it will get fixed but my point is that it should not have been there in the first place. They need test servers and QA before they start throwing out patches.

The absolute worst thing is that when I had a problem, I had to go to half a dozen different web sites to try to get an answer. SOE tech support is basically worthless. It's a community self help board. I've been there and I haven't read one problem that a TSR actually solved without going through the whole deal of "it's your system", "it's your drivers" or "we'll it report to development". For the $50 I paid for the program and Sigil's expectation that I will continue to pay and play, I expect way more than that. This game really excited me until I started playing it. Say what you want about Blizzard and WoW but they got their act together and when there are problems they seem to jump right on them. Not even having official forums to get information doesn't bode well for this game. I wish Sigil all the best and hope this game does well. They got my $50 but they won't be getting anymore. I expected a polished game. What I found was a game with problems that will be fixed after they start charging that subscription rate. That's unacceptable.

anarchyart

Originally posted by tevans


Not trying to criticize or start a flamewar but if VG:SoH is a 3rd gen game then the online gaming industry is in a lot of trouble. After a 6 hour preorder download and patch operation, I've been playing this game for two days. This game just doesn't cut it. There's nothing groundbreaking or earth shattering about it. It's all been done before and in most cases a lot better. I understand launch day bugs and glitches but some of the things I've seen in this game are absolutely unacceptable. My system meets or exceeds the recommended requirements and yet it is laggy beyond belief. I've run EQ2 on balanced or higher settings and it ran smooth as silk. This game is choppy even on high performance with sound turned off. As if that wasn't enough the starting area that I'm in has white flickering with numbers in the background. How am I supposed to play like that? It's a bug and I'm sure it will get fixed but my point is that it should not have been there in the first place. They need test servers and QA before they start throwing out patches.
The absolute worst thing is that when I had a problem, I had to go to half a dozen different web sites to try to get an answer. SOE tech support is basically worthless. It's a community self help board. I've been there and I haven't read one problem that a TSR actually solved without going through the whole deal of "it's your system", "it's your drivers" or "we'll it report to development". For the $50 I paid for the program and Sigil's expectation that I will continue to pay and play, I expect way more than that. This game really excited me until I started playing it. Say what you want about Blizzard and WoW but they got their act together and when there are problems they seem to jump right on them. Not even having official forums to get information doesn't bode well for this game. I wish Sigil all the best and hope this game does well. They got my $50 but they won't be getting anymore. I expected a polished game. What I found was a game with problems that will be fixed after they start charging that subscription rate. That's unacceptable.

What is your system? I had the choppy problem before pre-release but now mine plays perfectly. The 'bug' you speak of with the white flickering is something I have not experienced, so that doesn't sound like a bug. Also, there are plenty of things in Vanguard that haven't been done before but you might need to play for more than 2 days to experience them. At any rate I wish you well.

matraque

Originally posted by tevans

Say what you want about Blizzard and WoW but they got their act together and when there are problems they seem to jump right on them. Not even having official forums to get information doesn't bode well for this game. I wish Sigil all the best and hope this game does well. They got my $50 but they won't be getting anymore. I expected a polished game. What I found was a game with problems that will be fixed after they start charging that subscription rate. That's unacceptable.

Welcome to the MMO world.  DAoC was buggy at release, WoW had HUGE server issues and SWG... well it was the worst launch ever.



(noticed i pointed out what you have talked about in your 3 posts?)

Ponzini

Well said OP. I love this game now that I got a new computer. I wish it didnt take this kind of computer to enjoy the game but im sure that will change. Anyways great game! Worth the computer upgrade

Gameloading

That may be so, even still, I'm not going to purchase Vanguard untill SOE releases a free trial, simply because of the bad experience with performance.

anarchyart

Originally posted by Gameloading

That may be so, even still, I'm not going to purchase Vanguard untill SOE releases a free trial, simply because of the bad experience with performance.

Ask someone with the collectors edition for a buddy key. They wiped out the lag and hitching when they removed the debuggin code for the release version.  You have never seen a game so improved in your life I assure you.

Mardy

They've really improved the game performance since open beta.   FPS never was my issue before, since I always get over 50 fps.  But it was more about studdering, and how it was really bad every step during open beta.  Now, whatever they did, I don't feel the studdering at all.  If I come upon a large city, I get that second lag that I feel when entering Ironforge or other large cities in other MMO's.  So it's nothing new and I'm very very happy with the improvement they've made.  I don't care what they did to the game really, I'm just glad they really improved it like they said they would.

I played all weekend long, and yes while the servers got taken down for looong patch saturday night, I was glad because I played all Saturday and needed a break lol    Anyways, the game is really addicting, and it's fun on all 3 spheres (adventure, crafting, and diplomacy).  So far it's everything I've asked for, big kudos to Sigil for pulling this off.  I was skeptical during open beta because we all knew they ran out of time and had to rush.  But within 3 weeks of daily patches they've done amazing things to the game.  It's not perfect, yes there are launch bugs & issues, but I've enjoyed every minute of it since I started playing last Friday.

Elikal

As one who critizied the game often enough, I thank you for your thanks. Rest assured I will help VG much further in keeping critcizing every inch that isnt working to help you further. Oh no... that is the least I can do for you. ^^