Yea.. everyone else.. sure... I am playing with everything maxed out and 16x anisotropic and it's smooth as silk on my ati x1900xt; this card will soon be 2 years old. If it doesn't work for you it doesn't mean it is not working for everyone else. Got a poor box ? So change it or play something that was made for it and stop
Yet the guy posting two posts above you has the same card and gets from 2 to 40 fps.
And the poor people with high-end rigs and dual cards get poor frame rates as dual cards arent supported. So I could go spend $4000 on a pc today with dual cards and get crap performance.
Dual core with a x1300 card. My performance is fine.
Same here, and my x1300 512mo is agp (read shit). Performance is alright... i'm using the .ini to tweak it to my taste.
It is also misleading to say that the graphics are crap because your system isn't able to play it with all the fluff on, and to be honest VG doesn't look any worse at the lower setting then any other game. Don't compare VG's engine to EQ2, they don't use the same one. Your experience finding groups may not be the same as someone elses. I have yet to have trouble finding one and the XP while grouped and kiling mobs appropriate to the group size is fine. Prior to lvl 10 I did a multitude of different quests, and not all of them were kill x amount of y. If you got out of the staring spawn area and travelled down to the coast you would have seen lots of boats. WoW is not seamless anf if you played when it was released you would have noticed the chunks if you had a pet because they dissapeared. It is also not seamless because you can not travel from one continent to the other without a load screan. Seemless means that you can travel to all ends of the world without having to see a load screen.
Sry had to pick up on this, go put VG on the lowest gfx setting and stand a few yards away from a tree.. ive not seen trees as sprites since Doom 1(1993).. lol And unfortunatly a good percentage of players will have to play like this while they w8 for their NASA supercomputer to arrive.
I was hoping VG would be good, but I cant play in a world that looks fake and poorly made.
When you can run the game with some of the setting on it doesn't look fake and poorly made. This is the misleading thing I was talking about. Because YOU can't run the fluff doesn't mean the game is of poor graphical quality.
I don't get it. Even console gamers know that after 5 years thier system will need to be replaced to play the newest games that come out. Yet I keep seeing post after post of people complaining that the game looks bad and they shouldn't have to upgrade to make it look better.
YOUR SHOULD BE UPGRADEING YOUR PC EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS TO KEEP UP WITH SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY. You can not expect a 4 year old system to be able to handle lighting and shader code that came out toady.
You don't HAVE to do it, but you should. Why do you think they keep putting out new Gfx cards?
Bitching that a game looks like crap cause you PC can't handle it is just plane stupid. Upgrade your system or play games that are intented to be played on it. I know, I know, I'm not supposed to say that, but it's the truth.
Crying that it's not right for a game to run poorly on an older system is like crying that you can't play 360 games on an Xbox!
Yea.. everyone else.. sure... I am playing with everything maxed out and 16x anisotropic and it's smooth as silk on my ati x1900xt; this card will soon be 2 years old. If it doesn't work for you it doesn't mean it is not working for everyone else. Got a poor box ? So change it or play something that was made for it and stop
Yet the guy posting two posts above you has the same card and gets from 2 to 40 fps.
And the poor people with high-end rigs and dual cards get poor frame rates as dual cards arent supported. So I could go spend $4000 on a pc today with dual cards and get crap performance.
Yes I believe this, and I can explain why.
That's most probably because he is on a single core CPU. We just made a test on another thread on this forum about 1 hour ago.
With all settings maxed out + 16x anisotropic I get between 20 and 40 FPS; I am at about 24-28 most of the time. ( I get 30 to 50 FPS without anisotropic)
When I disable one core for the game (by setting the affinity to only 1 core), I lose 5-10 FPS and sometimes it starts to hitch a lot, even going down to 3 FPS (so I can understand why so many people can be frustrated). I have never seen any red FPS and I don't get the hitching when using both cores.
Furthermore, as per the beta forums during the weeks before the game was released, the people with the most performance problems are the people running single core CPUs.
Edit: regarding the dual cards, if this is causing some trouble you can always just take one card out until it is supported, or even better just purchase one card and get the second one later
Hell, a few years ago I didnt upgrade I baught a new computer just so I could play Neverwinter Nights. Then I baught another one just to play MMO's because the previous one wasn't worth upgrading. Granted many people can't afford to buy a new vid card let alone a new comp.
And guess what? A lot of people can't afford to buy a new PS3 or 360, but I don't hear people walking around pissed off and yelling that it's not fair they can't play the new console games.
Yea, I fell for it also. $50+ dollars to find out in 10 minutes that the game was crap.
OMG you gave it a WHOLE 10 mins! No way, you must have crazy skill.... what did you expect? popping into the world on your dragon mount sitting on top of your keep?
Ill make you a deal, tell me what the best game is then in your opinion and i'll play it for 10 miins as well then i'll tell you all the innovative features i saw in that 10 mins ok? Im waiting.
Seriously, if you have not reached at least lev 10-15 and got your first mount then you really havnt experienced even 1/100th of this game.
"When a graphics engine is so poorly optimized that even though I have 2 gig of RAM a P4 3.0 and a GeForce 7600GS with 512 on board and I'm getting an average of 9 FPS, that is complete crap."
I'd suggest buying an updated video card. 7600GS regardless of ram is a slower card not up to snuff for the latest games. There is your problem.
I posted something very similar outside of the V:SOH forum:
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This was one of my main beefs with Nvidia not too long ago.
They released the Geforce7 series and crippled a lot of the cards (GS for example), yet pushed the Geforce7 name hard, as if all version 7 cards were the best. Fact was, they were not better performers than some of the Geforce6 cards. In almost every single way the 6800 Ultra would outperform something like the 7600GS.
Only the GT card and GT in SLI for the 7600 are above the 6800U in this Half Life 2 test above. So lame of them. I believe 128bit memory interface model would perform even worse.
They would also load up the cards with something like 512MB of RAM, yet the hardware was so underpowered there was probably no way any game could even take advantage of it acceptably.
Yay another Troll who only made his account here to flame Vanguard. 5 posts out of 7 to rip Vangaurd. I think you Username is a tell tale sign of your bias. Sorry man not buying your act. I play it. It's not a bad game. You have an agenda. We don't care about it.
If you like that then head over to CoX forums where people create accounts just to defend the game. lol Anyways, what did you like about Vanguard and how does it play on your system? Does leveling speed seem ok? And how about travelling. I'm not a fan of WoW-walk speeds. Does combat have a good visceral feel or is it kind of like WoW(which just feels like a lot of clicks if that makes sense)? How interactive is the environment? How is soloing or should you even bother? I'm looking for something new and am still on the fence about Vanguard. I am looking for a game that has more depth than my current game CoH/V but still feels quick paced.
I don't like that. I think its retarded to come here with an agenda and act like you're just another player.
I like the depth of the game. The 3 spheres you can level up in are a unigue approach and thats 2 more spheres than WoW. Leveling speed is fine by me. Playing casually the first week i made it to level 19. 19 took me 5 hours of soloing. To me thats fine. To me combat is fine. I like the fact that there are skills to counter npc spells and abilities. I also like that you can learn new skills in combat from NPC's. The environment isn't all that interactive.
This game has plenty of depth. It also has plenty of bugs. My system handles the game just fine. I average 30-40 fps on balanced settings. I have a midrange dual core with low range video cards. I need to upgrade them badly.
It's definately worth a try if you don't mind working around a few bugs the first few months. It's not nearly finished but it's still quite enjoyable.
Flying mounts WoW has flying mounts. With the Vanguard grind it will take you a year or more of 8 hour/day grinding to get a flying mount. Boats. I don't know anyone who has seen a boat. Again, it will take 1-2 years of 8 hour/day grinding to get one. Plus based on Sigil's track record, I am sure they will be bugged beyond belief. HUGE seemless world to explore Huge yes. Seemless no. There are no loading screens but you know when you cross a chunk. WoW is seemless. I have never noticed crossing a zone line. Not a WoW fanboi but just making an observation.
better crafting system Slightly more complex than EQ2 with one difference. The EQ2 one works.
TONS AND TONS of Quests to do Until you get to level 10 or so. Those are kill 10 rats and report to so and so...
awesome grouping sessions If you BOF (bring your own friends). Groups are rare and hard to find. No LFG tool or anyway to make grouping easier. Plus the group XP suxxor.
awesome graghics The world looks great. Really a beautiful world. However, the character models look slightly better than EQ1 and the character animations are straight out of Computer Science 101 class.
AND i play i high performence (sometimes balanced) and the graghics are still better then EQ2 on medium-high
and im sure there is more that i cant think of. Compared to EQ2, Vanguard is a crude old fashioned looking and playing game. EQ2 sucks but it is 100% better than Vanguard. If more people played EQ2 it would be a really sweet game. Unfortunately you can't find groups in EQ2 either.
anyone else want to add?
Vanguard is a sub par MMO at best. With the bugs it is way below par. Vanguard is certainly not the worst MMORPG ever made but it will be on the top 10 list of failures. It is the wrong game at the wrong time.
Its not sup par on my machine i play with all settings maxed at 1920x1200 and the game is stunning to look at and as far as bugs go its no different than any MMO ive ever played they all have bugs even Bruning Crusade has quests that are bugged and instances that are bugged Not to mention there flying mounts are slower than the epic land mounts just to force you to griind for the epic flying mount And thats why am playing vangaurd am sick of blizzards cheap little tricks to get you to grind
But all do it in Vanguard because in the end all have a hell of alot more than a fancy mount and a set of armor that everyone else is wearing. Oh and a repair bill which is the only thing i had to spend my money on when i quit playing cause i had everything else lol
Flying mounts whipee!!! Guess no one here ever saw Dark and Light hmm? Been out for around a year now, has flying mounts, snowboarding, and hang gliding. The rest of the game is pure crap, but it also has a huge game world (one with no zone lines I might add unlike vangaurd).
For starters a "hater" is never happy. If an aspect of a game isn't fun in their opinion then it was dumb, a bad idea, etc etc.
Who gives a crap WHO did flying mounts first, anyone who got one in beta will tell you nobody has ever done them better.
Whoever says all of vanguard's quests are typical didn't do any quests outside of the tutorial quests of one character (because many of the different characters had some pretty fun tutorial quests) and if they say otherwise I'm calling them a liar straight up. I'll even give examples of quests that were rather well done and way more involved than "kill 10 of these" "get 5 of these"
I think it's funny that these lowlifes keep bashing a game they have no clue about and when a person defends it they're labeled a fanboy or even better vanboy, lol. I seriously think Vanguard's faithful care less about other games like WoW, Eve, GW, EQ2 and so on and we laugh at them when they come on these threads and cry. You're giving so much more attention than we had hoped for, thanks and keep up the good flaming.
I agree. Like I stated this morning, "Fanboy" or "Vanboy" is going to be a euphemism soon, I tell you...
OH WAIT, WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING HERE? I NEED TO GO TO THE WOW FORUMS BECAUSE SOMEONE OVER THERE MIGHT HAVE SAID THAT WOW IS A DECENT GAME! BLASPHEMY! I CAN'T LET THIS HAPPEN... I'M GOING TO GO OVER THERE AND TELL THEM THAT THEIR GAME IS SHIT. THAT WILL SHOW THEM! EVEN THOUGH I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THAT GAME, I MUST DO IT.
This was obviously a joke of course. Though I don't really understand why people come here to repeatedly bash on the game like it is the end of the world or something. WHAT DOES IT ACCOMPLISH?
I like to play Vanguard. I think its a very good game. If you criticize me for my opinion you can go choke on a dick, and or, die in a fire. Get a fucking life nerds.
I lol'ed.
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Another simpleton that replied without reading the link. For every 1 person that "claims" VG runs so awesome their are 10 that say it doesn't. Keep on with the Bs because it is you in the end that will be crying. When most of the population leaves due to performance issues then maybe you will pull your head out of the sand.
Do you need me to say it again ?
Do you know what a support forum is ? Do you realize that people with no problem do not post on a support forum
And again, do you realize that if you have a problem or do not like something, everyone else does not have to feel the same way? Yes, let me explain one more time for your obvious lack of comprehension. The original person I quoted CLAIMED THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH VG ARE ON SUBPAR COMPUTERS. I merely said BS and provided a link to back up my calling. What part of that do you fail to grasp? If you bothered to read the link I provided you would have seen MANY users with ABOVE AVERAGE computers also have piss poor performance. Comprende Einstein?
And to think someone of your design has the ability to even wake up and roll out of bed.
No wonder why the VG community has a bad rep already. Some of you Vanbois need to stop dressing up in your virtual clothing and get a reality check. Bottom line is this game is in need of serious optimization if it is to succeed. I for one hope they get it corrected or this game will fail miserably. Like it or not your niche 10k rabid fanboi base will not keep the doors open for long.
Yea, I fell for it also. $50+ dollars to find out in 10 minutes that the game was crap. Wish they had some sort of free trial....
And if your gonna play it, make sure your like, 90 years old. All the armor/clothes in the game have the pants pulled up to the nipples. Fucking ANNOYING to constantly look at your damn sword hilt bumping into your armpit as you run.
This one really made me lol. I totally agree with you. My first char was a woodelf and the first thing I thought was man wtf are the pants pulled up so high!
I started playing this game a couple of days ago, and to my amazement I was having fun despite all the bugs and performance issues. So I decided to quickly come over here and read some things in this forum. Thank the gods so many people posted there hateful opinions about this game. They caused me to stop having fun and go back to running an Instance over,and over again to try and find cool gear that everyone else had! Thanks Vangaurd haters, I owe you one!
I started playing this game a couple of days ago, and to my amazement I was having fun despite all the bugs and performance issues. So I decided to quickly come over here and read some things in this forum. Thank the gods so many people posted there hateful opinions about this game. They caused me to stop having fun and go back to running an Instance over,and over again to try and find cool gear that everyone else had! Thanks Vangaurd haters, I owe you one!
Sarcasm aside, I would hope that you and the others that come to these forums would have a level enough head on your shoulder to come up with your own opinions and make your own decisions. There are enough haters, lovers and moderates here to balance the opinions out. Also, I certainly hope that if someone is interested in investing in this game that this would not be the ONLY forum/preview/review that they would peruse.
Ok so nothing new so far let's talk about graphics.
It really doesn't look any different then EQ2 and to be honest the art direction was a bit worse. Guys I have to say, making things shiny doesn't cover -up or improve poor modeling.
Nothing new here that you haven't seen before and unless you have the newest hardware the game is going to look like crap if you want a decent framerate.
I see this comparison to EQ2 a lot, but I just don't get it. When Vanguard first came out, I was so frustrated with it that I bought EQII and was going to play that. I played it for all of about an hour before I decided it wasn't for me. The graphics were VERY cartoony looking to me, and no where near Vanguards quality. I have a AMD 4200+ Dual Core with 2 megs and a 7600 GS video card right now. It's okay, but not top of the line, and I think the game looks amazing. I can't run it at the highest quality obviously, but I get playable frame rates. Anywho, I just don't get the comparison to EQII in terms of graphics. Graphically, this game blows EQII away.
You have GOT to be kidding, right?
While VG has some nice scenery (much of it empty), the character models and character animations in EQ2 are 1000% better. The spell animations in VG don't even compare well to EQ1, much less EQ2.
Ok so nothing new so far let's talk about graphics.
It really doesn't look any different then EQ2 and to be honest the art direction was a bit worse. Guys I have to say, making things shiny doesn't cover -up or improve poor modeling.
Nothing new here that you haven't seen before and unless you have the newest hardware the game is going to look like crap if you want a decent framerate.
I see this comparison to EQ2 a lot, but I just don't get it. When Vanguard first came out, I was so frustrated with it that I bought EQII and was going to play that. I played it for all of about an hour before I decided it wasn't for me. The graphics were VERY cartoony looking to me, and no where near Vanguards quality. I have a AMD 4200+ Dual Core with 2 megs and a 7600 GS video card right now. It's okay, but not top of the line, and I think the game looks amazing. I can't run it at the highest quality obviously, but I get playable frame rates. Anywho, I just don't get the comparison to EQII in terms of graphics. Graphically, this game blows EQII away.
You have GOT to be kidding, right?
While VG has some nice scenery (much of it empty), the character models and character animations in EQ2 are 1000% better. The spell animations in VG don't even compare well to EQ1, much less EQ2.
I'd have to agree that EQ II is more visual stunning compared to VG's combat animations and spell effects.
Please notice the bolded and underlined part. SOE actually allowed the game to get this far otherwise MS would have pushed it out the door months ago.
Originally Posted by Aradune Mithara
As for launching, yes it may be fairly close to the WoW expansion, but that's not something we can control. SOE has given us financing that has gotten us a lot further than our previous publisher, but at some point you have to launch a game. If we could have a couple more months of development, sure, that would be great. If we could have another year, we could do a lot more too. But again, the game has to launch at some point and we know when that is. I'm pretty proud of how much funding, marketing, etc. we've received to-date. We have over 100 people workiing on this game. That said, we're not Blizzard either (yet). So the polish, time, and budet they had isn't what we've had, although we probably come in second. The game is also different -- Vanguard is more about freedom, attracting people who want a more challenging long term home, providing a game for old school EQ players and also WoW players looking for either/both something new and/or something more free and immersive. That means Vanguard is going to offer features and an evironment that is different and better IMHO than WoW, but also be a very different game than WoW, where we are focussed on different things and have different priorities.
Please notice the bolded and underlined part. SOE actually allowed the game to get this far otherwise MS would have pushed it out the door months ago.
Originally Posted by Aradune Mithara As for launching, yes it may be fairly close to the WoW expansion, but that's not something we can control. SOE has given us financing that has gotten us a lot further than our previous publisher, but at some point you have to launch a game. If we could have a couple more months of development, sure, that would be great. If we could have another year, we could do a lot more too. But again, the game has to launch at some point and we know when that is. I'm pretty proud of how much funding, marketing, etc. we've received to-date. We have over 100 people workiing on this game. That said, we're not Blizzard either (yet). So the polish, time, and budet they had isn't what we've had, although we probably come in second. The game is also different -- Vanguard is more about freedom, attracting people who want a more challenging long term home, providing a game for old school EQ players and also WoW players looking for either/both something new and/or something more free and immersive. That means Vanguard is going to offer features and an evironment that is different and better IMHO than WoW, but also be a very different game than WoW, where we are focussed on different things and have different priorities.
Wait, they did not have the polish, time and budget that WoW had but Vanguard is going to be better then WoW? Damn, that a neat trick!
Personally, after trying Vanguard in open Beta and reading that the Dev knew it was not ready but it was release or die, I put Vanguard into get a free trial of it in 2008 to see if it becomes worth playing. I figure if it survives until then, I'll miss all the bugs and nerfs.
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Yet the guy posting two posts above you has the same card and gets from 2 to 40 fps.
And the poor people with high-end rigs and dual cards get poor frame rates as dual cards arent supported. So I could go spend $4000 on a pc today with dual cards and get crap performance.
Dual core with a x1300 card. My performance is fine.
Same here, and my x1300 512mo is agp (read shit). Performance is alright... i'm using the .ini to tweak it to my taste.
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I was hoping VG would be good, but I cant play in a world that looks fake and poorly made.
When you can run the game with some of the setting on it doesn't look fake and poorly made. This is the misleading thing I was talking about. Because YOU can't run the fluff doesn't mean the game is of poor graphical quality.
I don't get it. Even console gamers know that after 5 years thier system will need to be replaced to play the newest games that come out. Yet I keep seeing post after post of people complaining that the game looks bad and they shouldn't have to upgrade to make it look better.
YOUR SHOULD BE UPGRADEING YOUR PC EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS TO KEEP UP WITH SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY. You can not expect a 4 year old system to be able to handle lighting and shader code that came out toady.
You don't HAVE to do it, but you should. Why do you think they keep putting out new Gfx cards?
Bitching that a game looks like crap cause you PC can't handle it is just plane stupid. Upgrade your system or play games that are intented to be played on it. I know, I know, I'm not supposed to say that, but it's the truth.
Crying that it's not right for a game to run poorly on an older system is like crying that you can't play 360 games on an Xbox!
Yet the guy posting two posts above you has the same card and gets from 2 to 40 fps.
And the poor people with high-end rigs and dual cards get poor frame rates as dual cards arent supported. So I could go spend $4000 on a pc today with dual cards and get crap performance.
Yes I believe this, and I can explain why.
That's most probably because he is on a single core CPU. We just made a test on another thread on this forum about 1 hour ago.
With all settings maxed out + 16x anisotropic I get between 20 and 40 FPS; I am at about 24-28 most of the time. ( I get 30 to 50 FPS without anisotropic)
When I disable one core for the game (by setting the affinity to only 1 core), I lose 5-10 FPS and sometimes it starts to hitch a lot, even going down to 3 FPS (so I can understand why so many people can be frustrated). I have never seen any red FPS and I don't get the hitching when using both cores.
Furthermore, as per the beta forums during the weeks before the game was released, the people with the most performance problems are the people running single core CPUs.
Edit: regarding the dual cards, if this is causing some trouble you can always just take one card out until it is supported, or even better just purchase one card and get the second one later
Hell, a few years ago I didnt upgrade I baught a new computer just so I could play Neverwinter Nights. Then I baught another one just to play MMO's because the previous one wasn't worth upgrading. Granted many people can't afford to buy a new vid card let alone a new comp.
And guess what? A lot of people can't afford to buy a new PS3 or 360, but I don't hear people walking around pissed off and yelling that it's not fair they can't play the new console games.
OMG technology changed! Let's burn people!
OMG you gave it a WHOLE 10 mins! No way, you must have crazy skill.... what did you expect? popping into the world on your dragon mount sitting on top of your keep?
Ill make you a deal, tell me what the best game is then in your opinion and i'll play it for 10 miins as well then i'll tell you all the innovative features i saw in that 10 mins ok? Im waiting.
Seriously, if you have not reached at least lev 10-15 and got your first mount then you really havnt experienced even 1/100th of this game.
~dunadurium
I believe he was exaggerating.I'd suggest buying an updated video card. 7600GS regardless of ram is a slower card not up to snuff for the latest games. There is your problem.
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This was one of my main beefs with Nvidia not too long ago.
They released the Geforce7 series and crippled a lot of the cards (GS for example), yet pushed the Geforce7 name hard, as if all version 7 cards were the best. Fact was, they were not better performers than some of the Geforce6 cards. In almost every single way the 6800 Ultra would outperform something like the 7600GS.
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Only the GT card and GT in SLI for the 7600 are above the 6800U in this Half Life 2 test above. So lame of them.
They would also load up the cards with something like 512MB of RAM, yet the hardware was so underpowered there was probably no way any game could even take advantage of it acceptably.
I don't like that. I think its retarded to come here with an agenda and act like you're just another player.
I like the depth of the game. The 3 spheres you can level up in are a unigue approach and thats 2 more spheres than WoW. Leveling speed is fine by me. Playing casually the first week i made it to level 19. 19 took me 5 hours of soloing. To me thats fine. To me combat is fine. I like the fact that there are skills to counter npc spells and abilities. I also like that you can learn new skills in combat from NPC's. The environment isn't all that interactive.
This game has plenty of depth. It also has plenty of bugs. My system handles the game just fine. I average 30-40 fps on balanced settings. I have a midrange dual core with low range video cards. I need to upgrade them badly.
It's definately worth a try if you don't mind working around a few bugs the first few months. It's not nearly finished but it's still quite enjoyable.
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Its not sup par on my machine i play with all settings maxed at 1920x1200 and the game is stunning to look at and as far as bugs go its no different than any MMO ive ever played they all have bugs even Bruning Crusade has quests that are bugged and instances that are bugged Not to mention there flying mounts are slower than the epic land mounts just to force you to griind for the epic flying mount And thats why am playing vangaurd am sick of blizzards cheap little tricks to get you to grind
But all do it in Vanguard because in the end all have a hell of alot more than a fancy mount and a set of armor that everyone else is wearing. Oh and a repair bill which is the only thing i had to spend my money on when i quit playing cause i had everything else lol
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7300033012
For starters a "hater" is never happy. If an aspect of a game isn't fun in their opinion then it was dumb, a bad idea, etc etc.
Who gives a crap WHO did flying mounts first, anyone who got one in beta will tell you nobody has ever done them better.
Whoever says all of vanguard's quests are typical didn't do any quests outside of the tutorial quests of one character (because many of the different characters had some pretty fun tutorial quests) and if they say otherwise I'm calling them a liar straight up. I'll even give examples of quests that were rather well done and way more involved than "kill 10 of these" "get 5 of these"
I think it's funny that these lowlifes keep bashing a game they have no clue about and when a person defends it they're labeled a fanboy or even better vanboy, lol. I seriously think Vanguard's faithful care less about other games like WoW, Eve, GW, EQ2 and so on and we laugh at them when they come on these threads and cry. You're giving so much more attention than we had hoped for, thanks and keep up the good flaming.
OH WAIT, WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING HERE? I NEED TO GO TO THE WOW FORUMS BECAUSE SOMEONE OVER THERE MIGHT HAVE SAID THAT WOW IS A DECENT GAME! BLASPHEMY! I CAN'T LET THIS HAPPEN... I'M GOING TO GO OVER THERE AND TELL THEM THAT THEIR GAME IS SHIT. THAT WILL SHOW THEM! EVEN THOUGH I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THAT GAME, I MUST DO IT.
This was obviously a joke of course. Though I don't really understand why people come here to repeatedly bash on the game like it is the end of the world or something. WHAT DOES IT ACCOMPLISH?
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Do you know what a support forum is ? Do you realize that people with no problem do not post on a support forum
And again, do you realize that if you have a problem or do not like something, everyone else does not have to feel the same way? Yes, let me explain one more time for your obvious lack of comprehension. The original person I quoted CLAIMED THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH VG ARE ON SUBPAR COMPUTERS. I merely said BS and provided a link to back up my calling. What part of that do you fail to grasp? If you bothered to read the link I provided you would have seen MANY users with ABOVE AVERAGE computers also have piss poor performance. Comprende Einstein?
And to think someone of your design has the ability to even wake up and roll out of bed.
No wonder why the VG community has a bad rep already. Some of you Vanbois need to stop dressing up in your virtual clothing and get a reality check. Bottom line is this game is in need of serious optimization if it is to succeed. I for one hope they get it corrected or this game will fail miserably. Like it or not your niche 10k rabid fanboi base will not keep the doors open for long.
Unfortunately, NONE of that is new with the possible exception of the crafting system. But even some of that was taken from UO (circa 1998).
Asheron's Call had the same type of seamless world.. and that was back in 1999.
EQ2 has a lot more quests, and far less of the "kill-a-rat" type.
You have GOT to be kidding, right?
While VG has some nice scenery (much of it empty), the character models and character animations in EQ2 are 1000% better. The spell animations in VG don't even compare well to EQ1, much less EQ2.
You have GOT to be kidding, right?
While VG has some nice scenery (much of it empty), the character models and character animations in EQ2 are 1000% better. The spell animations in VG don't even compare well to EQ1, much less EQ2.
I'd have to agree that EQ II is more visual stunning compared to VG's combat animations and spell effects.
Personally, after trying Vanguard in open Beta and reading that the Dev knew it was not ready but it was release or die, I put Vanguard into get a free trial of it in 2008 to see if it becomes worth playing. I figure if it survives until then, I'll miss all the bugs and nerfs.