Ah btw : Athlon 1.6xp / 1gb ram / ati radeon 9800 / win xp ---> I play on balanced without any problems and can even play on high but with some tweaks and then i do have some problems in town .. So dont tell me this game has high system req cause I havent changed my comp for a few years
Total BS..My system puts yours down eaily and there is NO F'ing way I could play on high. On medium settings in towns it was a slide show 5fps. With that system I would bet in town you get 1-3fps on high performance, and maybe 12fps out of town IF you are lucky. There is no way that archaic POS can run VG on balanced let alone high. Post some screenies in town and out of town on balanced and high, and make sure you have the lag-o meter showing aswell. I want to LOL at what you consider "playable" with 2fps. Nice try though. Jesus... Calm down man. Have you not been reading these forums? Its not only how powerful your computer is for VG, its the components you have.(GPU, CPU, Drivers) That is what is causing all the problems. Maybe this kid found a good combination of drivers and hardware, and runs on balaced at faily okay fps. Do not go to cutting him down because your pissed that your computer can't run it how you want.
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I love how many *I'm against this game for this reason* posts are filled with tons of grammatical errors. Not to mention, punctuation, spelling, capitalization, etc.....What is becoming of the english language?
thats probably because they all are fresh from wow and thinks any game thats not bug free or easy is crap as they are too used to wow. Not to mention the fact that they apparently have a major lack of a iq hehe
Ah btw : Athlon 1.6xp / 1gb ram / ati radeon 9800 / win xp ---> I play on balanced without any problems and can even play on high but with some tweaks and then i do have some problems in town .. So dont tell me this game has high system req cause I havent changed my comp for a few years
Total BS..My system puts yours down eaily and there is NO F'ing way I could play on high. On medium settings in towns it was a slide show 5fps. With that system I would bet in town you get 1-3fps on high performance, and maybe 12fps out of town IF you are lucky. There is no way that archaic POS can run VG on balanced let alone high. Post some screenies in town and out of town on balanced and high, and make sure you have the lag-o meter showing aswell. I want to LOL at what you consider "playable" with 2fps. Nice try though. Jesus... Calm down man. Have you not been reading these forums? Its not only how powerful your computer is for VG, its the components you have.(GPU, CPU, Drivers) That is what is causing all the problems. Maybe this kid found a good combination of drivers and hardware, and runs on balaced at faily okay fps. Do not go to cutting him down because your pissed that your computer can't run it how you want. Sorry to burst your bubble but my computer "Quit" running VG because I told it to. If someone is going to claim they can run VG on balanced/high settings with a 1.6(amd, which equates to roughly a 1.2ghz intel), and 1 gig of ram I want to see proof. Because if that is the case, anyone who upgraded should immediately sell their computers and downgrade to a 7 year old CPU, 5yr old GPU and disgard atleast 1/2 their ram. I am sorry but no way can he run on high, but it is ok for him to spout BS as long as it is in favor of VG?
I don't recall cutting him down as I made no personal attacks in my post. I merely attacked his claim. Show me screenies with the fps meter. I can bet my life he is lucky to see 12fps tops ANYWHERE. That my vanboi is a slide show. Now if he said he can play on high performance, I could agree with that, somewhat. Even at that setting his fps would be dismal. If he is happy with his performance, I am happy for him, but stop making false claims.
As for your logic - I don't care what combo this kid found, he doesn't have the resources available to run this beast on high. Don't give me the drivers,gpu,cpu excuse either. I can guarantee I have my system more tweaked than 90% of the posters here. Quit putting the onus on other peoples computers and put it where it belongs...VG CLIENT/CODING.
So they coded a game that the hardware wont run on full for some people...No big deal. Run it at what you can or don't play. It truely is a personal option. This game works for a lot of us old EQers. All new games have bugs and problems, and this one is not without its share. I have seen worse and better and have been at the launch of most MMO's.
You have to understand, the people that post on pretty much all forums are the vocal minority in games. The silent majority are the ones out playing the games and not complaining. Take forums with a grain of salt because most of the post are opinions. My opinion, if you enjoyed old EQ, you will fall in love with this game.
Not to mention, "...after playing for a bit..." Instant credibility.
That is always a favorite of mine.....
Alright fellas, then riddle me this.... How long does one have to play to know the game isn't to their liking?
I can listen to a song and in less than ten seconds I know I don't like...
So this crap about "give it time it will grow on ya" is just BS
Some of my favorite music is stuff I hated the first few times I listened to it. If you're listening to 10 seconds of a song and deciding it sucks, you are missing out on a lot of great music.
Concerning this thread. I dunno, I didn't like it when I was in beta in September. But I'm liking it for some reason now.
well after playing for a bit . i must say this is actually the worst mmorpg i ve ever played and that includes some to the free to play ones . its horrible. the control system is all over the place . you feel like your fighting to keep your character moving in the directon you want him or her to go . combat really is inconsistant . the game is bugged to hell . monsters have a tendancy to disapear when your fighting them . the in game graphics are ok but even with my high spec pc i have to run everything on highest performance mode which makes the game look arwful and its still jerky . the character animation is static and akin to the kind of thing you get in some of the free play games like silk road . its like an open beta having said that i ve played better open betas . its brocken unfinnished and unpolished and it would have been better if it had never been released . i feel ripped off . what a shame it had such potential too . . i dont know why anyone would post anything possative about this game unless they had a vested interest in it . SAVE YOU HARD EARNED BUCKS GIVE IT A MISS .
LOL! Ok sorry I think you clearly failed with your message.
All "constructive critizism" is because 1) You don't like the controls and 2) it's bugged?
WHAT A FLAT-OUT JOKE! You didn't comment anything else except the graphics and performance (which generally should not be a problem unless you have a somewhat decent computer).
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
shadus its just your opinion . i wont argue that the nvidea geforce 7300 le is nt really a gamers graphics card . but if you read the reviews its considered to be a good high performance budget graphics card if a little inferior to the gs . i can imagine its cack to a hardcore gamer . maybe i sould have played it on my other pc given what strangr said . thats got a radion 9800 in it and a slightly more powerful system than he describes. but i really cant be bothered i brought this pc essentially to go on the net and the other free for my work and non online gaming . still the problem i got with the game not running smoothly is normally down to a lack of ram rather than graphics card . my point it and this is made elsewhere in these forums is that the required system specs on the game are misleading . actually thats the arguement i used to get a refund . my card should run relativly well at lower end settings but does nt . i actually installed oblivion on this pc to see if would run ok and theres no problem there . of course it does nt run at the highest performance settings but i got it to run just fine after tweaking a bit .thats good enough for me . that was nt my expiance with vanguard . my pc is still a lot higher spec than most people i know who play warcraft . not everyones gonna have a " machine on steroids" as someone else put it . a lot of the critism aimed at vanguard is it wont play on mid ranged pcs .even after sigil made a big thing of wanting it to be accessable to those who dont have ultra high spec equipment ........maybe this next generation games come too early given that theres not enough people with the kit to play it properly for it to be a success .........its doomed . doomed i say lol . hehe
Here's a question for all of you attacking the OP and stating he didn't play long enough to have an opinion. Suppose you go to a restaurant and order your favorite meal. The waiter brings your meal to you and you beging to eat only to find out it's half-cooked? What do you do? Do you send it back or finish eating? How much of the meal do you have to eat before you decide? The point I'm trying to make is the OP played the game long enough for him to decide. Maybe it wasn't long enough for you but it was for him. Maybe you have no problems but he did and like it or not he has a right to voice his opinion the same as those of you telling everybody the game is great.
Using my restaurant analogy again I'd like to know if you would reccommend a restaurant that served half-cooked food to your friends or family. The OP had a bad experience with the game, listed his problems and advised others to stay clear of it until the problems are worked out. There's nothing wrong with that. It's the same as someone saying "This game is the greatest MMO ever". The only difference is a differing opinion.
It's good to hear that you're gonna try out vanguard. Eq1 for me was crap the first time i saw it. My friends use to play it before me and spent years trying to get me to play it. Anyway i tried it out for alil while and after about a day of playing i was hooked.
Okay, I'm not a fanboy or a hater but here's my opinion about Vanguard. At first I was very excited about this game, I told my friends that this will be our next game after WoW (we were so not looking forward to play TBC). But at some point I got the beta invite, I tried it, played it, disliked it and finally decided not to play this game at all. I let my friends tried the game and they said the same thing.
The problems at that time were pretty much the same to what people said about the game after release. Low FPS, buggy, large but empty world, need grouping very bad even at low levels, etc.
So yea, if you are an average MMO player as non-hardcore roleplaying maybe and not a big fan of Brian Mcquaid .. whatever the spelling is, you may want to avoid this game. Trust me, I'm not against this game at all, but I just feel it's not for the most of us.
I can never understand when ppl moan about not enough grouping when they have friends moaning about it too. Join the game with your friends and group with them.
There are performance tweak thread around. If you intrested maybe have a look. You could probally get an extra 10 fps by doing that. Turning grass off is one thing that can completly change you fps.
Simple reasoning why Vanguard ... EQ3 ... isn't operating well yet. Sigil & SOE rushed it's release, for whatever reasons they spew forth, & because of this Sigil & SOE agreed to release Vanguard UNFINISHED. Not in the sense that a MMO is never suppose to be finished upon it's never-ending path. It's features, code, the whole gammut is just not done yet. In a few months Vanguard will probably be more refined, hopefully.
To any & all deciding about Vanguard, be patient. If you have a beefy newish computer with higher tier components then by all means you should be able to operate Vanguard minus the apparent numerous coding glitches & unfinished game. If a prospective player/customer is deciding about Vanguard, then it's probably best for you to wait a couple or a few months.
Sigil & SOE has issued a partial mea culpa about Vanguard's poor performance. Notice how this was done afterwards even though Sigil & SOE knew very well how unfinished Vanguard was for this soon of a release, motive was pure financial.
Vanguard is a great concept, piss poor execution for introduction by Sigil & SOE, & the casualties are we players/customers. However Vanguard will be worth consideration down the road probably. At the moment though Vanguard ... EQ3 ... just shouldn't be out commercially yet. By far not the worst MMO ever, but shameful beginning for what a lot of us hoped would be a new horizon of MMO gamefair.
i agree whole heartedly . i ve said several times that it should be free to play at least untill a lot of problems are ironed out . i think like me a lot of people wanted to like this game and a disgusted with unfinnished product we ve been presented with . my personal view is that it will go free to play like archlord did just recoup some of its loses . if you want to make money out of this type of game you need to spend money not pull the funding from the devlopers two thirds of the way through , its them i feel sorry for in all this mess . (as well as those of you who brought this game and are finding it buggy and tedious) .
To be fair this isn't the worst MMO ever. It's pretty bad and was way over-hyped, not to mention the original vision of the game is gone IMO, but it isn't the WORST MMO.
Vanguards a great game. Alot of these whiners that don't like vg just move form mmo to mmo never pleased with what they see. They don't like mmo's. Maybe because they've played too much and are bored of them or just don't like them.
Ill be amazed if any of them find a mmorpg they like. There just looking for something that doesnt exsist yet.
Vanguards a great game. Alot of these whiners that don't like vg just move form mmo to mmo never pleased with what they see. They don't like mmo's. Maybe because they've played too much and are bored of them or just don't like them. Ill be amazed if any of them find a mmorpg they like. There just looking for something that doesnt exsist yet.
Hmm.. I didn't want to bring this out but me and a couple of my friends changed destination from Vanguard to Lord of the Rings Online. We played the beta, we liked it, we pre-ordered it. The mmorpg we like does exist.
I never said Vanguard is bad, it's just not for most people out here. You're happen to be one the few people that liked Vanguard, and that just doesn't mean the others are badly wrong or out of their minds.
Okay, I'm not a fanboy or a hater but here's my opinion about Vanguard. At first I was very excited about this game, I told my friends that this will be our next game after WoW (we were so not looking forward to play TBC). But at some point I got the beta invite, I tried it, played it, disliked it and finally decided not to play this game at all. I let my friends tried the game and they said the same thing.
The problems at that time were pretty much the same to what people said about the game after release. Low FPS, buggy, large but empty world, need grouping very bad even at low levels, etc.
So yea, if you are an average MMO player as non-hardcore roleplaying maybe and not a big fan of Brian Mcquaid .. whatever the spelling is, you may want to avoid this game. Trust me, I'm not against this game at all, but I just feel it's not for the most of us.
OK here is a post from someone that doesn't know what the frak they're talking about. I get 40-60 fps in game 90% of the time and that is on almost full bells and whistles running at 1900x1220. Only time I see a hiccup is when I enter a city where lots of people are at and then it might drop to 20 for a few seconds before rebounding ot the low 30's.
Large empty world? What game did you say you played again? Telon is not empty....not in the least bit.
Bugs..sure the game has bugs...what game doesn't have bugs and what MMORPG ever released without its share of bugs?
Grouping needed at low levels? LMAO! Please if you must BS at least do it about something you have the slightest ideal of what it is you are talking about.
Oh and if you are going to talk about the lead designer of the game Vanguard the least you can do is get his name right. It is "BRAD not BRIAN".
::rolls her eyes:: You are an idiot. Plan and simple.
i dont think its proberbly the worst mmorpg ever but its the worst one i ve experianced . i ve enjoyed most of the others i ve tried even some of the free ones . graphics aside the gameplay just did nt grab me i found it to be rather dull .even after a couple of weeks of play. as i ve said before the landscapes are very scenic . but the character animation just looks static . i was nt too keen on how the game spins from day to night within a short period but thats just a personal dislike and nothing to do with gameplay . i found the comuication system in the game to be quite poor as well . if your in the towns theres a few players about , not as many as you d suspect with a new mmorpg though and i would think there will be a lot less within a month or so . combat just feels really tired too again nothing to do with the speed of how the game runs . you can tell if you like something or not pretty quickly i ve found with games in the past . the likes of far cry tomb raider baldurs gate doom warcraft and dungeon master (anyone remember that ) caught and sustained my interest within literally the first hour . this has nt happened with this game for me personally . it did nt with guild wars either but i respected that game because its rather well done (just not for me ) . my experiance with vanguards is proberbly the worst i ve had with a high profile game in i dont know how many years . i personally did nt find it an enjoyable experiance at all . i m glad some of you are but i think theres more of you who ar nt and yet more who re glad theres forums not full of fanboy hype . to get a more wider persective of something they may or may not buy . .....hell you d think my warning of stay clear dont try dont buy dont bother is really going to make people do that . people do have thier own minds by reading a wide range of posts and they dont do everything i say......or do they ...... GIVE ME A MILLION DOLLERS .....lol its worth a try i guess
I am going to check back with VG in 6 months time to see if the game plays any better. Too many bugs and issues at this point to bother imo. I think it will end up being ok in the end, just not for me atm.
Viktaal ---> Thats it nobody calls me a liar even if its some punk hater . Tell me how to activate the lag o meter or whatever you want me to post in the screenshot and i'll do it but if what I said is true you will offically say that you are sorry for beeing a damn close minded hater talking shit about something that you have no idea .Agreed ? and I can give you as manny sceens as you want then of any options ingame and a screen of "my computer" so you will see what machine i have and that it is really amd 1.6xp/1gb ram/radeon 9800/win xp sp2.
vyce i totally agree it may be worth a look again in 6 months or so but only if theres a free trial available then . i dont doubt strangrs pc is running it well from what i gather from one posting is that a guy tried it with two different but pcs with similar specs one played it the other did nt . that seams to be a problem with this game its pretty inconsistant like that . some people must really be having a good experiance with it but if your considering buying do you really want to chance it with you pc at presant ???????i m betting a lot wont even if they dont respond in forums .
vyce i totally agree it may be worth a look again in 6 months or so but only if theres a free trial available then . i dont doubt strangrs pc is running it well from what i gather from one posting is that a guy tried it with two different but pcs with similar specs one played it the other did nt . that seams to be a problem with this game its pretty inconsistant like that . some people must really be having a good experiance with it but if your considering buying do you really want to chance it with you pc at presant ???????i m betting a lot wont even if they dont respond in forums .
I don't think 6 months will make too much of a difference. There are some fundamental things missing. I will say give it at least a year probably 2 to be really release ready with polish. In the meantime, it is not bad to play.
hey hats off to you if you want to provide finacial backing to a game thats not even close to being fully developed in the meantime . personally i d rather go to the dentist lol
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I don't recall cutting him down as I made no personal attacks in my post. I merely attacked his claim. Show me screenies with the fps meter. I can bet my life he is lucky to see 12fps tops ANYWHERE. That my vanboi is a slide show. Now if he said he can play on high performance, I could agree with that, somewhat. Even at that setting his fps would be dismal. If he is happy with his performance, I am happy for him, but stop making false claims.
As for your logic - I don't care what combo this kid found, he doesn't have the resources available to run this beast on high. Don't give me the drivers,gpu,cpu excuse either. I can guarantee I have my system more tweaked than 90% of the posters here. Quit putting the onus on other peoples computers and put it where it belongs...VG CLIENT/CODING.
So they coded a game that the hardware wont run on full for some people...No big deal. Run it at what you can or don't play. It truely is a personal option. This game works for a lot of us old EQers. All new games have bugs and problems, and this one is not without its share. I have seen worse and better and have been at the launch of most MMO's.
You have to understand, the people that post on pretty much all forums are the vocal minority in games. The silent majority are the ones out playing the games and not complaining. Take forums with a grain of salt because most of the post are opinions. My opinion, if you enjoyed old EQ, you will fall in love with this game.
That is always a favorite of mine.....
Alright fellas, then riddle me this.... How long does one have to play to know the game isn't to their liking?
I can listen to a song and in less than ten seconds I know I don't like...
So this crap about "give it time it will grow on ya" is just BS
Some of my favorite music is stuff I hated the first few times I listened to it. If you're listening to 10 seconds of a song and deciding it sucks, you are missing out on a lot of great music.
Concerning this thread. I dunno, I didn't like it when I was in beta in September. But I'm liking it for some reason now.
All "constructive critizism" is because 1) You don't like the controls and 2) it's bugged?
WHAT A FLAT-OUT JOKE!
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http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
Here's a question for all of you attacking the OP and stating he didn't play long enough to have an opinion. Suppose you go to a restaurant and order your favorite meal. The waiter brings your meal to you and you beging to eat only to find out it's half-cooked? What do you do? Do you send it back or finish eating? How much of the meal do you have to eat before you decide? The point I'm trying to make is the OP played the game long enough for him to decide. Maybe it wasn't long enough for you but it was for him. Maybe you have no problems but he did and like it or not he has a right to voice his opinion the same as those of you telling everybody the game is great.
Using my restaurant analogy again I'd like to know if you would reccommend a restaurant that served half-cooked food to your friends or family. The OP had a bad experience with the game, listed his problems and advised others to stay clear of it until the problems are worked out. There's nothing wrong with that. It's the same as someone saying "This game is the greatest MMO ever". The only difference is a differing opinion.
It's good to hear that you're gonna try out vanguard. Eq1 for me was crap the first time i saw it. My friends use to play it before me and spent years trying to get me to play it. Anyway i tried it out for alil while and after about a day of playing i was hooked.
Just saying don't judge a book by its cover.
The problems at that time were pretty much the same to what people said about the game after release. Low FPS, buggy, large but empty world, need grouping very bad even at low levels, etc.
So yea, if you are an average MMO player as non-hardcore roleplaying maybe and not a big fan of Brian Mcquaid .. whatever the spelling is, you may want to avoid this game. Trust me, I'm not against this game at all, but I just feel it's not for the most of us.
I can never understand when ppl moan about not enough grouping when they have friends moaning about it too. Join the game with your friends and group with them.
There are performance tweak thread around. If you intrested maybe have a look. You could probally get an extra 10 fps by doing that. Turning grass off is one thing that can completly change you fps.
Simple reasoning why Vanguard ... EQ3 ... isn't operating well yet. Sigil & SOE rushed it's release, for whatever reasons they spew forth, & because of this Sigil & SOE agreed to release Vanguard UNFINISHED. Not in the sense that a MMO is never suppose to be finished upon it's never-ending path. It's features, code, the whole gammut is just not done yet. In a few months Vanguard will probably be more refined, hopefully.
To any & all deciding about Vanguard, be patient. If you have a beefy newish computer with higher tier components then by all means you should be able to operate Vanguard minus the apparent numerous coding glitches & unfinished game. If a prospective player/customer is deciding about Vanguard, then it's probably best for you to wait a couple or a few months.
Sigil & SOE has issued a partial mea culpa about Vanguard's poor performance. Notice how this was done afterwards even though Sigil & SOE knew very well how unfinished Vanguard was for this soon of a release, motive was pure financial.
Vanguard is a great concept, piss poor execution for introduction by Sigil & SOE, & the casualties are we players/customers. However Vanguard will be worth consideration down the road probably. At the moment though Vanguard ... EQ3 ... just shouldn't be out commercially yet. By far not the worst MMO ever, but shameful beginning for what a lot of us hoped would be a new horizon of MMO gamefair.
To be fair this isn't the worst MMO ever. It's pretty bad and was way over-hyped, not to mention the original vision of the game is gone IMO, but it isn't the WORST MMO.
Still, its pretty bad.
Vanguards a great game. Alot of these whiners that don't like vg just move form mmo to mmo never pleased with what they see. They don't like mmo's. Maybe because they've played too much and are bored of them or just don't like them.
Ill be amazed if any of them find a mmorpg they like. There just looking for something that doesnt exsist yet.
Hmm.. I didn't want to bring this out but me and a couple of my friends changed destination from Vanguard to Lord of the Rings Online. We played the beta, we liked it, we pre-ordered it. The mmorpg we like does exist.
I never said Vanguard is bad, it's just not for most people out here. You're happen to be one the few people that liked Vanguard, and that just doesn't mean the others are badly wrong or out of their minds.
OK here is a post from someone that doesn't know what the frak they're talking about. I get 40-60 fps in game 90% of the time and that is on almost full bells and whistles running at 1900x1220. Only time I see a hiccup is when I enter a city where lots of people are at and then it might drop to 20 for a few seconds before rebounding ot the low 30's.
Large empty world? What game did you say you played again? Telon is not empty....not in the least bit.
Bugs..sure the game has bugs...what game doesn't have bugs and what MMORPG ever released without its share of bugs?
Grouping needed at low levels? LMAO! Please if you must BS at least do it about something you have the slightest ideal of what it is you are talking about.
Oh and if you are going to talk about the lead designer of the game Vanguard the least you can do is get his name right. It is "BRAD not BRIAN".
::rolls her eyes:: You are an idiot. Plan and simple.
Viktaal ---> Thats it nobody calls me a liar even if its some punk hater . Tell me how to activate the lag o meter or whatever you want me to post in the screenshot and i'll do it but if what I said is true you will offically say that you are sorry for beeing a damn close minded hater talking shit about something that you have no idea .Agreed ? and I can give you as manny sceens as you want then of any options ingame and a screen of "my computer" so you will see what machine i have and that it is really amd 1.6xp/1gb ram/radeon 9800/win xp sp2.
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I don't think 6 months will make too much of a difference. There are some fundamental things missing. I will say give it at least a year probably 2 to be really release ready with polish. In the meantime, it is not bad to play.