New game for an old Gamer

jfriley

I have no idea where to post this, so I will do it here. I would like to try my hand at the MMORPS scene. I've wanted a new game to play for a while. I loved the online play of Diablo II, and I've played Guild Wars. Other than that, I have no MMORPG experience. Now I'm in my mid 30s so I would like a more mature (i.e. non WOW). No bias against the kids, I just don't want to spend a whole game dealing with them. Can any old time gamers give me some advice?

sempiternal

Try Roma Victor

www.roma-victor.com

 

Gameloading

He is a first time MMORPG player and you send him to Roma Victor? do you want to scare him away from the genre forever?



Op: MMO's that are good to start in are Everquest 2 and City of Heroes/Villains. I would also still recommend World of Warcraft, the game really isn't full with kiddies as some would try to make you believe, and there are just as much mature players as children.

sempiternal

Originally posted by jfriley

Now I'm in my mid 30s so I would like a more mature (i.e. non WOW). No bias against the kids, I just don't want to spend a whole game dealing with them. Can any old time gamers give me some advice?

I'm an older gamer too and I definately don't want him to waste his time on kiddie games like Everquest, City of Heroes, or WoW.  He even mentioned in his post he was NOT looking for WoW.

Learn to comprehend what you read Gameloading; maybe then you wont be so useless.

AmazingAvery

If you still dont find something in the short term, Age of Conan might be more what your looking for. However, the release date is Oct'07. Rated mature, it might not get alot of the immature people you might find in other games. In the game you start of learning your way and getting a feel for the game, easing you into it until level 20. Then theres the opportunity to progress onwards all the way up to doing pvp if your into that. The game promising a different perspective on comabt control as opposed to games out there right now. I signed up to the guild in my signature after a little investigation and found them to be more of a mature crowd of people from all over. Whilst waiting for Age of Conan we play a variety of games from Vanguard to Wow. What your after is really whether you like to grind away to get drops / levels / items or are you say more craft inclined? Would you be prepared to pay a subscription to a game to play or are you after a free type mmo? You could take a look at the highest ranked ones here on the site and read up a little about what you like.

joeyboots

Kiddie games like everquest? Lol Thats a barrel of laughs. What would you consider a non-kiddie game, aside from Roma Victor? Have you even played EQ2?  Also, is it absolutely necessary to degrade someone for their opinion by calling them useless? I can almost understand where you're coming from calling wow a "kiddie game", but to lump EQ2 and CoH in with it is just plain unfair, not to mention an extreme generalization.

joeyboots

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

If you still dont find something in the short term, Age of Conan might be more what your looking for. However, the release date is Oct'07. Rated mature, it might not get alot of the immature people you might find in other games. In the game you start of learning your way and getting a feel for the game, easing you into it until level 20. Then theres the opportunity to progress onwards all the way up to doing pvp if your into that. The game promising a different perspective on comabt control as opposed to games out there right now. I signed up to the guild in my signature after a little investigation and found them to be more of a mature crowd of people from all over. Whilst waiting for Age of Conan we play a variety of games from Vanguard to Wow. What your after is really whether you like to grind away to get drops / levels / items or are you say more craft inclined? Would you be prepared to pay a subscription to a game to play or are you after a free type mmo?

Yes it would be much easier to suggest something, if you determine whether or not you want a free-to-play(F2p), or pay-to-play(P2p) MMo.

Gameloading

Originally posted by sempiternal


Originally posted by jfriley

Now I'm in my mid 30s so I would like a more mature (i.e. non WOW). No bias against the kids, I just don't want to spend a whole game dealing with them. Can any old time gamers give me some advice?

I'm an older gamer too and I definately don't want him to waste his time on kiddie games like Everquest, City of Heroes, or WoW.  He even mentioned in his post he was NOT looking for WoW.

Learn to comprehend what you read Gameloading; maybe then you wont be so useless.

Thats why I said "STILL" with an explenation as to why I think he should still try it,because I read the reason as to why he didn't want to try WoW. maybe you should learn to comprehend, maybe you will post something usefull for once then.





Also Everquest, City of Heroes nor WoW are not kiddie games. and even if they are, that is still better then sending a new player to a game like Roma Victor, besides the poor quality of the game, it offers very little instruction for new players, and a low playerbase.

sempiternal

He said he was not interested in WoW and you tell him to play it anyway.

WoW is full of kids.

Gameloading

Originally posted by sempiternal


He said he was not interested in WoW and you tell him to play it anyway.
WoW is full of kids.

Yes I told him that because the reason he mentioned was that the game was full of kids. My experience with WoW was very diffrent from that, there were plenty of mature gamers, thats why I still recommend WoW. I find the "WoW is full of kids" stereotype to be downright wrong.

joeyboots

Remember everyone, wheels and doorknobs both turn, so that must mean they are the same.

sempiternal

Further, Gameloading, both the games he mentioned have no monthy fees.  Roma Victor also has no monthy fee.

All the games you listed have a monthy fee.

joeyboots

Originally posted by sempiternal


Further, Gameloading, both the games he mentioned have no monthy fees.  Roma Victor also has no monthy fee.
All the games you listed have a monthy fee.

Ok, well then how about Anarchy Online, Shadowbane, Archlord, RYL, Silkroad Online, Knight Online, Rappelz, Hero Online, etc. etc. Plenty of free (no monthly subscription) MMOs out there to choose from.

AmazingAvery

From personal experience, just dont ever play Runescape.

Gameloading

Originally posted by sempiternal


Further, Gameloading, both the games he mentioned have no monthy fees.  Roma Victor also has no monthy fee.
All the games you listed have a monthy fee.

You just have to try and have to come up with some lame arguement to have the last word, don't you?



The op did not mention that he didn't want to pay a monthly fee, so what does it even matter? Even if he wants to play a free to play mmorpg, then he's still of poorly with Roma Victor, RV does very little to help new players learn the genre. Even Runescape would be a better choice just for the sake of the tutorial.

kashaun

That Acolytes site is well done. I usualy dont like flash but it's very clean and nice layout. Anyway, for the original poster, try a game with some people you know first if it's possible. I dont like to advise games, even to friends because I feel guilty when they end up horribly dissapointed. Might sound lazy and ineffective but I look at in game videos, I can usualy gauge how a game will feel to me that way and I usualy guess right, though it is according to my own preference.

joeyboots

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

From personal experience, just dont ever play Runescape.

Lol, I have no choice but to agree with you on that one.

shanz31

I totally agree with wow is for kids game or people dont have a real life

warcrack? ever heard of that?

AutemOx

Well, if you are looking for a mmorpg thats out now I would probably say you go with EQ2 or EVE, but its hard to say what you'll enjoy, and neither really provide anything an older gamer would especially enjoy...   

If you have any interest in the 17th century, 3d modeling, or sailing then you should check out Pirates of the Burning Sea, taking a look at the PotBS forums (http://www.flyinglab.com/forums/index.php) you'll find the community to be very friendly and inviting.  There is so little hostility on the PotBS forums, especially compared to most mmos, and many of those who are interested in PotBS are older.  The PotBS forums feel very comfortable, relaxed, and friendly.  Hopefully the game will feel this way too; I think it will, excluding some very exciting PvP battles. 

Originally posted by BadChef

That Acolytes site is well done. I usualy dont like flash but it's very clean and nice layout. Anyway, for the original poster, try a game with some people you know first if it's possible. I dont like to advise games, even to friends because I feel guilty when they end up horribly dissapointed. Might sound lazy and ineffective but I look at in game videos, I can usualy gauge how a game will feel to me that way and I usualy guess right, though it is according to my own preference.

you have a very cute signature

knightaudit

As an older gamer myself (yes I am pushing the big 40) As a person who has tried many MMO's out there I would suggest COH/COV for very simple game play and easy to learn. If you do like more PVP then join WOW with a PVP server. I found WOW very cartoony and easy to play but has a depth that will grow on you.



These are some of the better games out there. Yes there are others and other people may say that other games are better but that becomes more a question of taste than anything else.



Try a few ... even a trial for a few days and see what each has to offer and then decide for yourself ... who knows you find a game that no one even mentioned here, that is right for you.



Enjoy

sempiternal

Originally posted by Gameloading 

The op did not mention that he didn't want to pay a monthly fee, so what does it even matter? Even if he wants to play a free to play mmorpg, then he's still of poorly with Roma Victor, RV does very little to help new players learn the genre. Even Runescape would be a better choice just for the sake of the tutorial.

Another very poor recommendation, indeed.  Runescape?

Much can be accomplished in Roma Victor through player interaction - something you may not be used to in your WoW MMOGs.

Our posts pretty much sum up our positions anyway; you enjoy WoW and don't recommend Roma Victor, I don't enjoy WoW and recommend Roma Victor.

 

Gameloading

Originally posted by sempiternal

Originally posted by Gameloading 

The op did not mention that he didn't want to pay a monthly fee, so what does it even matter? Even if he wants to play a free to play mmorpg, then he's still of poorly with Roma Victor, RV does very little to help new players learn the genre. Even Runescape would be a better choice just for the sake of the tutorial.

Another very poor recommendation, indeed.  Runescape?

Much can be accomplished in Roma Victor through player interaction - something you may not be used to in your WoW MMOGs.

Our posts pretty much sum up our positions anyway; you enjoy WoW and don't recommend Roma Victor, I don't enjoy WoW and recommend Roma Victor.

 

I said that even Runescape would be a better starters MMORPG then Roma Victor, I never actually recommended to play Runescape.



Roma Victor would only scare one away from the mmorpg genre for its low quality,  low player base and low playerguiding for a new player. the mmorpg's I mentioned either have a full tutorial or are so simple to understand a tutorial is not even needed.

sempiternal

Originally posted by Gameloading

the mmorpg's I mentioned either have a full tutorial or are so simple to understand a tutorial is not even needed.

Designed for even 12 year olds?

Gameloading

Originally posted by sempiternal

Originally posted by Gameloading

the mmorpg's I mentioned either have a full tutorial or are so simple to understand a tutorial is not even needed.

Designed for even 12 year olds? a 12 year old would be able to understand it, yes. Not that thats a bad thing, they are games after all, not exams. Gears of War can be played by my nephew of 9, yet that doesn't mean the game is aimed for his age category.

sempiternal

Whatever, the discussion is over, 6000 post count guy.

AmazingAvery

To the OP. I think to sum it up, good advice so far has been to decide whether you want to pay a subscription, check some screenshots out from the released games list, watch some videos if available, read up on that game from the main games website, and then you can browse the forums here for said specific game. You could then try to follow that up on finding out what the community is like, giving you an idea of whether its to your tastes or not.  Look for free trials to try out and maybe if your lucky if will find something similar to diablo 2 which you enjoyed. Good luck in your hunt