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LOTRO very disappointed so far - dumbed down wow version with a little more asian type bloomy graphi

I wont get into the bugs (there are still many, but I know its still in beta), but somethings wont change.  Im a rather big tolkin fan, and am a long time gamer (beta tested realm and UO, been active mmorpg-player since then).  But this game has almost nothing to do with lord of the rings except for the name, similar like DDO.  They just exploited the name to lure fans.  Also, leveling, adventure, locations are designed to be very fast-food like, sometimes even shallower than WOW. 
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  • RattrapRattrap Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,599

    I hear you

    And belive me , i expected not much more from Turbine.

    I think many people will buy it as a buffer before POBTS,AOC,WAR come out ... since there isnt much of the alternatives available right now... and the game seems , well , ... cute

    "Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas

  • godpuppetgodpuppet Member Posts: 1,416
    How can you dumb down WoW? lol

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  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Hey, you guys can always go do Vangrind you know, I hear they are looking for a few good players  But which is the most dumbed down? The one where you mindlessly press a half dozen buttons and make progress on your character, or the one where you mindlessly press a half dozen buttons and get to do corpse runs? MMORPGs are not exactly chess challenges you know.

    I miss DAoC

  • LukainLukain Member UncommonPosts: 591
    Originally posted by Brabus

    I wont get into the bugs (there are still many, but I know its still in beta), but somethings wont change.  Im a rather big tolkin fan, and am a long time gamer (beta tested realm and UO, been active mmorpg-player since then).  But this game has almost nothing to do with lord of the rings except for the name, similar like DDO.  They just exploited the name to lure fans.  Also, leveling, adventure, locations are designed to be very fast-food like, sometimes even shallower than WOW. 



    So what your really saying is LOTRO is going to be a huge hit , thanks .. Now head back to Vanguard with the rest of the oldtimers ..

     

     

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by Lukain

    Originally posted by Brabus

    I wont get into the bugs (there are still many, but I know its still in beta), but somethings wont change.  Im a rather big tolkin fan, and am a long time gamer (beta tested realm and UO, been active mmorpg-player since then).  But this game has almost nothing to do with lord of the rings except for the name, similar like DDO.  They just exploited the name to lure fans.  Also, leveling, adventure, locations are designed to be very fast-food like, sometimes even shallower than WOW. 



    So what your really saying is LOTRO is going to be a huge hit , thanks .. Now head back to Vanguard with the rest of the oldtimers ..

     

     



    So what your really saying is LOTRO is going to be a huge hit , thanks .. Now head back to Vangrind with the rest of the kids that have hours to waste LFG and doing corpse runs

    Fixed it for you

    I miss DAoC

  • LukainLukain Member UncommonPosts: 591
    Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by Lukain

    Originally posted by Brabus

    I wont get into the bugs (there are still many, but I know its still in beta), but somethings wont change.  Im a rather big tolkin fan, and am a long time gamer (beta tested realm and UO, been active mmorpg-player since then).  But this game has almost nothing to do with lord of the rings except for the name, similar like DDO.  They just exploited the name to lure fans.  Also, leveling, adventure, locations are designed to be very fast-food like, sometimes even shallower than WOW. 



    So what your really saying is LOTRO is going to be a huge hit , thanks .. Now head back to Vanguard with the rest of the oldtimers ..

     

     



    So what your really saying is LOTRO is going to be a huge hit , thanks .. Now head back to Vangrind with the rest of the kids that have hours to waste LFG and doing corpse runs

    Fixed it for you



    My Bad !!

     

     

  • Veiled_lightVeiled_light Member UncommonPosts: 855

    I played LOTRO finally on the EU beta weekend on saturday.







    Well i say played, i logged in and logged out about 5 mins later :D The game was horrible.

  • Veiled_lightVeiled_light Member UncommonPosts: 855
    Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by Lukain

    Originally posted by Brabus

    I wont get into the bugs (there are still many, but I know its still in beta), but somethings wont change.  Im a rather big tolkin fan, and am a long time gamer (beta tested realm and UO, been active mmorpg-player since then).  But this game has almost nothing to do with lord of the rings except for the name, similar like DDO.  They just exploited the name to lure fans.  Also, leveling, adventure, locations are designed to be very fast-food like, sometimes even shallower than WOW. 



    So what your really saying is LOTRO is going to be a huge hit , thanks .. Now head back to Vanguard with the rest of the oldtimers ..

     

     



    So what your really saying is LOTRO is going to be a huge hit , thanks .. Now head back to Vangrind with the rest of the kids... Oh wait the games soooo unpolished and unplayable that you spend all the time on the forums saying how amazing it is. Just because you EMO and think it's cool to like something that noone else does.

    Fixed it for you

     

    True

  • LukainLukain Member UncommonPosts: 591
    Originally posted by Veiled_light


    I played LOTRO finally on the EU beta weekend on saturday.







    Well i say played, i logged in and logged out about 5 mins later :D The game was horrible.



    Go away troll , you can't gudge a game on 5 minutes , to even believe you got into beta is a joke ... Now head back to Vandgrind  & tell mommy you wan't more pie ..

     

  • DeadJesterDeadJester Member Posts: 499
    LOL dont make kid jokes about Vanguard if U are a WoW player
  • BrabusBrabus Member Posts: 52
    Originally posted by Jackdog




    So what your really saying is LOTRO is going to be a huge hit , thanks .. Now head back to Vangrind with the rest of the kids that have hours to waste LFG and doing corpse runs
    Fixed it for you

     



    Ah its so nice how people concentrate on prejudices and throw things like  "kid who has hours to waste LFG" around, what utter nonse...

    Dude, I work 50 h per week and only have time to play on the week-end with my wife.  We play Wow, Vanguard and EQ2 and hardly grind but still have a blast, even on crappy computers ;)

    If you have fun with that game and if it fits to your intellect, go ahead and enjoy LOTRO..

  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857
    Originally posted by godpuppet

    How can you dumb down WoW? lol
    By making it even less possible to die while fighting mobs around your level. I was fighting level fives, at level one, and winning.

    No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    Hemingway

  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777

    What is it with the people on this board?  We seem to feel the need to stomp on one game to make ours look better.  What does LoTR have to do with Vanguard?  Other than being 2 new MMOs, absolutely nothing.  I think we all need to understand that it's okay to like two or more MMOs at the same time!  For example, I play Vanguard and I'm in LoTR beta.  Both are great games in their own way!  And here's a dirty little secret...I LIKE WOW too!  If you limit your MMO tastes to just one game or type of game, you are really going to miss out in the coming months.

  • cupertinocupertino Member Posts: 1,094
    Originally posted by Aelfinn

    Originally posted by godpuppet

    How can you dumb down WoW? lol
    By making it even less possible to die while fighting mobs around your level. I was fighting level fives, at level one, and winning. Can i see a movie of your mad skills?, go grab demo of fraps and post it on youtube


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  • Veiled_lightVeiled_light Member UncommonPosts: 855
    Originally posted by Lukain

    Originally posted by Veiled_light


    I played LOTRO finally on the EU beta weekend on saturday.







    Well i say played, i logged in and logged out about 5 mins later :D The game was horrible.



    Go away troll , you can't gudge a game on 5 minutes , to even believe you got into beta is a joke ... Now head back to Vandgrind  & tell mommy you wan't more pie ..

     



    Actually my mum died 4 years ago and i don't like Vanguard + I can judge a game in 5 mins :S If you do not like the feel or mechanics of a game straight away then you wont like it later on. whats the point wasting more time.



    Geez you don't know anything about the human senses

  • RattrapRattrap Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,599
    Originally posted by Brabus


    Ah its so nice how people concentrate on prejudices and throw things like  "kid who has hours to waste LFG" around, what utter nonse...
    Dude, I work 50 h per week and only have time to play on the week-end with my wife.  We play Wow, Vanguard and EQ2 and hardly grind but still have a blast, even on crappy computers ;)
    If you have fun with that game and if it fits to your intellect, go ahead and enjoy LOTRO..



    LOLOLOLOLOLOL

    This is the funniest post of the year!

    I also work 50 hours a week , and having trouble even leveling in WOW

    And you and your wife play VG,EQ2 and WOW

     

    Ah i get it !

    Your 50 hours a week job is playing MMOs !

    "Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas

  • beezeebeezee Member Posts: 149
    Originally posted by Brabus

    I wont get into the bugs (there are still many, but I know its still in beta), but somethings wont change.  Im a rather big tolkin fan, and am a long time gamer (beta tested realm and UO, been active mmorpg-player since then).  But this game has almost nothing to do with lord of the rings except for the name, similar like DDO.  They just exploited the name to lure fans.  Also, leveling, adventure, locations are designed to be very fast-food like, sometimes even shallower than WOW. 


    LOL!!!



    This guy has about 90% of his posts in support of DnL



    So his credibility is pretty much non-existent.
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  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857
    Originally posted by cupertino

    Originally posted by Aelfinn

    Originally posted by godpuppet

    How can you dumb down WoW? lol
    By making it even less possible to die while fighting mobs around your level. I was fighting level fives, at level one, and winning.Can i see a movie of your mad skills?, go grab demo of fraps and post it on youtube




    I claimed, and continue to claim no "mad skills".

    My point was that its dissapointingly easy, with how fast the health regeneration is set.

    No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    Hemingway

  • VhalnVhaln Member Posts: 3,159
    Originally posted by Brabus

    I wont get into the bugs (there are still many, but I know its still in beta), but somethings wont change.  Im a rather big tolkin fan, and am a long time gamer (beta tested realm and UO, been active mmorpg-player since then).  But this game has almost nothing to do with lord of the rings except for the name, similar like DDO.  They just exploited the name to lure fans.  Also, leveling, adventure, locations are designed to be very fast-food like, sometimes even shallower than WOW. 



    I wouldn't even mention bugs at all, they're so few for it being beta.  I'd expect more post-release of other MMOs.

    Disappointment, though.  Yep, this one will be very disappointing for a lot of the serious Tolkien fans and MMO vets.  Lucky for me, I didn't hope for anything, so simply enjoyed it.  Lucky for Turbine, there are lots of players who'll think it's great, because the only MMO they know is WOW, and only know LOTR from the movies.

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • XpheyelXpheyel Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 704

    Ok one thing that ticks me off. If you actually read practically any of the backstory or quest completion dialog, practically everything that happens in Bree land and the Lone Lands is directly related to the events in the Books.
    a) All the Brigands in Bree Land are ultimately servents of either the Nazgul or Saruman.
    b) The Wights being stirred up in the Barrow Downs are all under the influence of the Nazgul.
    c) The critters and trees in the Old Forest are negatively influenced by Sauron
    d) The Wights and indirectly the Shades in Agamuar are all due to the influence of the Nazgul.

    I mean, it seemed to me like every other quest in the locales that the Ring passes through in the books are tied to the main plotline. Not directly, because the "Fellowship of the Ring" didn't mention Frodo being escorted by extra adventurers looking for level ups. The only areas where it ISN'T that important are the North Downs and Erad Luin, because they didn't go there in the books. So there are other storylines there. Your character is (hopefully) never going to be able to fight a Nazgul, so they gave the game some Angmarian evil-type middle management.

    They didn't just slap this game together and call it "Lord of the Rings Online". Maybe they didn't succeed in your opinion, but they definitely tried to work with the lore when they put the game together. Even the places where they arguably break it, the NPCs involved mention that things have recently gotten worse, they had legends of Wights or monsters but didn't believe them, etc.

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  • R3DD3RSR3DD3RS Member Posts: 42
    All the people who are complaining that LOTRO is a clone of WoW well what do you expect. WoW is the most sucesfull MMORPG (I'm talking about the most sign ups not that its the best MMO) and the companys that make games are not out to satisfy a few experienced players. They want to make as much money as possible by shifting as many games as possible, they'll sell most of there copies by just the fact its The Lord of the Rings and then MMO playing non LOTR fans (if there are any) will probably buy it because its a very familiar set up and easy to get into.



    In the law according to Devs  -  Money > Quality   

                                                  Big title = Mega Bucks + Pissed off Fans



    And if they do truely copy Blizzards example of an MMORPG they'll probably bring out an expansion that completely ignores tolkiens lore and they'll be elven panzer tanks monstering there way through Middle Earth!
  • RexNebularRexNebular Member Posts: 259
    Originally posted by Veiled_light

    Originally posted by Lukain

    Originally posted by Veiled_light


    I played LOTRO finally on the EU beta weekend on saturday.







    Well i say played, i logged in and logged out about 5 mins later :D The game was horrible.



    Go away troll , you can't gudge a game on 5 minutes , to even believe you got into beta is a joke ... Now head back to Vandgrind  & tell mommy you wan't more pie ..

     



    Actually my mum died 4 years ago and i don't like Vanguard + I can judge a game in 5 mins :S If you do not like the feel or mechanics of a game straight away then you wont like it later on. whats the point wasting more time.



    Geez you don't know anything about the human senses

     

    And what horrible mechanics did you manage to notice in 5 minutes?

    WSAD controls didn't feel right for you? Or right-click to talk to NPCs? Yep, those are horrible design choices I immediately saw too.

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