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  • kwaikwai Member UncommonPosts: 825
    Originally posted by infrared1

    Originally posted by kwai

    Originally posted by infrared1

    Originally posted by kwai

    And you guys still keep on whining , bickering like lil bitches, its really sad to see



    Either you play the game or you don't simple as that, no reason to sit here and write a novelle about old days, its getting tiresome after a few posts with the same shit and the same people posting in it just to whine, yes i call it whine because its all you ever fucking do, christ , do something usefull with your time.
    Welcome to the club then. You will fit in just fine. But us whinners would appreciate it if you could tone down the language a bit. So far you are doing a great  job, with this bitch you posted. We might even make you the president of the whinners. Oh and if you dont like listening to whinners then WHY DO YOU COME HERE? Oh, you're  stupid too. Great. We have an award for that.



    Stop trolling, whinning and bitching. If you don't like what you read move to another forum. And by all means, if you cant say anything nice or constructive feel free to cancel your account here.

    And you my good sir should delete your account and move the fuck on, registered the 30th january 2007, right okay, what gives you the right more than me to read any of theese forums ?



    Hmm yea good one eh, and ill say what i wanna say, this is a SWG forum im in, just because mods on the SOE forums would delete all of ur whiny topics all the time doesnt mean you can come here and poor out of ur bickering, christ u sound like my wife when she has my period, allways something to whine about, just fuck off allready if you dont like the game , dont post here.

    You are out of line. You know nothing about me. All i was trying to show your little mind is, that you are bitching about the bitchers. Which makes you just as bad as the bitchers themselves. I think you need to read my post again. To tell you to cancel your account was a bit harsh, and i'm sorry. You have every right to be here as do I. But you have to face facts, which I have done. There will always be whiners. You can't get away from it so except it and let it roll. There's no need to use the language you have used. You are also assuming  a lot of things about me just because of my register date. Don't be a hater. Grow up. Or learn to control your anger a bit better. Oh, and good luck with your period. It must be your time of the month.

    It's not that time of the month, and im a guy not a girl.



    Yea i was out of line and im sorry for that, but i don't like to be judged or be put in a box with other people seeing as i hate when people do that to you.



    Yes i may have to live with the daily bickering on the boards about old days, but hey someday people gotta grow tired of bickering, its like when a kid cries and he/she doesnt want to sleep, ignore it and dont go into him/her and they will eventually grow tired of crying and go to sleep, thats how i'd suggest people to be.



    If people stopped paying attention to the bickering and just ignore the posts, then people would get quickly tired of bickering on the forums when there is no one paying attention to the bickering, seeing as nobody benefits from negativity / negative vibes.
  • infrared1infrared1 Member UncommonPosts: 440
    Originally posted by kwai

    Originally posted by infrared1

    Originally posted by kwai

    Originally posted by infrared1

    Originally posted by kwai

    And you guys still keep on whining , bickering like lil bitches, its really sad to see



    Either you play the game or you don't simple as that, no reason to sit here and write a novelle about old days, its getting tiresome after a few posts with the same shit and the same people posting in it just to whine, yes i call it whine because its all you ever fucking do, christ , do something usefull with your time.
    Welcome to the club then. You will fit in just fine. But us whinners would appreciate it if you could tone down the language a bit. So far you are doing a great  job, with this bitch you posted. We might even make you the president of the whinners. Oh and if you dont like listening to whinners then WHY DO YOU COME HERE? Oh, you're  stupid too. Great. We have an award for that.



    Stop trolling, whinning and bitching. If you don't like what you read move to another forum. And by all means, if you cant say anything nice or constructive feel free to cancel your account here.

    And you my good sir should delete your account and move the fuck on, registered the 30th january 2007, right okay, what gives you the right more than me to read any of theese forums ?



    Hmm yea good one eh, and ill say what i wanna say, this is a SWG forum im in, just because mods on the SOE forums would delete all of ur whiny topics all the time doesnt mean you can come here and poor out of ur bickering, christ u sound like my wife when she has my period, allways something to whine about, just fuck off allready if you dont like the game , dont post here.

    You are out of line. You know nothing about me. All i was trying to show your little mind is, that you are bitching about the bitchers. Which makes you just as bad as the bitchers themselves. I think you need to read my post again. To tell you to cancel your account was a bit harsh, and i'm sorry. You have every right to be here as do I. But you have to face facts, which I have done. There will always be whiners. You can't get away from it so except it and let it roll. There's no need to use the language you have used. You are also assuming  a lot of things about me just because of my register date. Don't be a hater. Grow up. Or learn to control your anger a bit better. Oh, and good luck with your period. It must be your time of the month.

    It's not that time of the month, and im a guy not a girl.



    Yea i was out of line and im sorry for that, but i don't like to be judged or be put in a box with other people seeing as i hate when people do that to you.



    Yes i may have to live with the daily bickering on the boards about old days, but hey someday people gotta grow tired of bickering, its like when a kid cries and he/she doesnt want to sleep, ignore it and dont go into him/her and they will eventually grow tired of crying and go to sleep, thats how i'd suggest people to be.



    If people stopped paying attention to the bickering and just ignore the posts, then people would get quickly tired of bickering on the forums when there is no one paying attention to the bickering, seeing as nobody benefits from negativity / negative vibes. I could not say it any better. Next time, take a deep breath and take your own advise if you dont want mine. This is what I should have told you. lol. The whiners dont bother me anymore its the people cusing and getting mad. (time for a famous movie quote) "Can't we all just get along". Whether you are SWG classic or SWG NGE it should not matter. We are connected and we should not have hate or anger for our brothers. We all feel it.
  • haxxjoohaxxjoo Member Posts: 924
    Originally posted by kwai

    Originally posted by infrared1

    Originally posted by kwai

    Originally posted by infrared1

    Originally posted by kwai

    And you guys still keep on whining , bickering like lil bitches, its really sad to see



    Either you play the game or you don't simple as that, no reason to sit here and write a novelle about old days, its getting tiresome after a few posts with the same shit and the same people posting in it just to whine, yes i call it whine because its all you ever fucking do, christ , do something usefull with your time.
    Welcome to the club then. You will fit in just fine. But us whinners would appreciate it if you could tone down the language a bit. So far you are doing a great  job, with this bitch you posted. We might even make you the president of the whinners. Oh and if you dont like listening to whinners then WHY DO YOU COME HERE? Oh, you're  stupid too. Great. We have an award for that.



    Stop trolling, whinning and bitching. If you don't like what you read move to another forum. And by all means, if you cant say anything nice or constructive feel free to cancel your account here.

    And you my good sir should delete your account and move the fuck on, registered the 30th january 2007, right okay, what gives you the right more than me to read any of theese forums ?



    Hmm yea good one eh, and ill say what i wanna say, this is a SWG forum im in, just because mods on the SOE forums would delete all of ur whiny topics all the time doesnt mean you can come here and poor out of ur bickering, christ u sound like my wife when she has my period, allways something to whine about, just fuck off allready if you dont like the game , dont post here.

    You are out of line. You know nothing about me. All i was trying to show your little mind is, that you are bitching about the bitchers. Which makes you just as bad as the bitchers themselves. I think you need to read my post again. To tell you to cancel your account was a bit harsh, and i'm sorry. You have every right to be here as do I. But you have to face facts, which I have done. There will always be whiners. You can't get away from it so except it and let it roll. There's no need to use the language you have used. You are also assuming  a lot of things about me just because of my register date. Don't be a hater. Grow up. Or learn to control your anger a bit better. Oh, and good luck with your period. It must be your time of the month.

    It's not that time of the month, and im a guy not a girl.



    Yea i was out of line and im sorry for that, but i don't like to be judged or be put in a box with other people seeing as i hate when people do that to you.



    Yes i may have to live with the daily bickering on the boards about old days, but hey someday people gotta grow tired of bickering, its like when a kid cries and he/she doesnt want to sleep, ignore it and dont go into him/her and they will eventually grow tired of crying and go to sleep, thats how i'd suggest people to be.



    If people stopped paying attention to the bickering and just ignore the posts, then people would get quickly tired of bickering on the forums when there is no one paying attention to the bickering, seeing as nobody benefits from negativity / negative vibes.



    So they should just shutup and go away? If you prefer the Pre-CU model and want to remind SOE and everyone else how much superior the previous version was to the current version what is the course of action these players should take? A lot of the board issues at the time of the NGE had to do with backlash against pre-cu people with NGE folks basically telling "us" to leave if we didn't like and basically to shut up.

    Your recommendation of ignoring "complaint" posts about the NGE and how great the game use to be is going to be equal to basically supporting SOE and the NGE by being silent. 

    I don't disagree with you, that the pre-cu crowd has taken to calling NGE supporters names and picking on them and calling them basically stupid childish gamers, which is harsh and unfair.  No doubt.  Many other game communities laugh when you go on about swg in either form.  Its not fair.

    Now people are coming to Pre-CU board havens and making posts saying "Give it a Chance".  The intentions may be good in trying to reach out to the jaded veteran community but the fact remains it is asking these players to forgive and forget what most of us view as a theft by SOE of our "work", community and game.  You ask this of us without so much as SOE publically appoligizing for doing the NGE and without them issuing us veterans any sort of compensation. 

    Then when we point out why the NGE is not for us in a clearly hostile environment to the NGE and "you" get all huffed up about the entire situation as if the outcome from a great majority of us wasn't the expected feeback from a community you know has been hostile to your position since your position came to be. 

    Please dont be surprised by the attitude of this community when it rips your entire give it a chance argument.  We all probably have given it at least 2 chances.

    I purchased the game knowing it would need work. I went through publish after publish Pre-cu testing, working through issues and communicating bugs, requests and issues.  I along with many others worked dilligently through an unfinished pre-cu to get a semi-balanced game.

    I beta tested the CU.  It wasn't ready and was pushed out anyways.  I quit. 

    I came back and gave the CU another shot after it was polished during the months I was off. 

    The NGE was announced and I beta tested that over 10 hours on its opening player beta and it wasnt even close to being ready and was pushed out anyways.  I quit.

    Now you are asking us to give it a shot again?  I have heard promise after endless promise from SOE on this game and now I should go back and shut up and enjoy the game?

    pft...

     

  • EbenEmaelEbenEmael Member Posts: 334
         At one time I had 6 SWG accounts (I am pack rat and needed the storage space! ). But that was before the NGE hit. Now I only have my original account. I willl most likely keep it (although I rarely log on anymore) just in case SOE wises up and actually fixes the game.

         As far as giving the game another chance? Not likely with the current Dev team in place. I honestly believe that SOE knew that making the changes that they did by implementing the CU and the NGE would cause a large portion of their veteran player base to leave. But I also believe that they had hoped that the influx of new, younger players would more than make up for the lost ones. However, they failed to consider the negative feedback that forums like this one would have on potential new players.

         For those that have been saying that the number of people subscribing to the game is increasing... please show some data to prove this. My account is on the Intrepid server. I rarely see anyone when passing through player towns. Most of the NPC cities are empty also. The only places that have any groups of people are in front of the Mos Eisley Starport (where all the noobs beg for money) and at Restuss. If the ingame population is increasing, there would be no need for a reduction in the number of servers (if I remember correctly several servers were removed around the time of the CU, but I'm not totaly sure).

         To give an idea of how many people left the game since the CU was released::: before the CU my guild had 72 players (I still have them all on my friends list). Within a month of the CU being released we lost about 75% of them. Within 2 months of the NGE release we lost most everyone else. In the last 6 months I have seen 3 people from my guild log on. This is not a sign of a healthy game.



    Server: Intrepid

    Characters: PleaseDon't HurtMe

                          BadBrains

                          UnwashedHeathen

                          He-Who Passes-Wind

                          Ebola-Zaire
  • ShastraShastra Member Posts: 1,061
    This is awesome. I make one civil post to give it a chance and all jumped on me like pack of rabid dogs. I should have left you all alone to bitch and moan. You people don't deserve nice words but i wont stoop to your levels. But i must remind you..it's just a game not the real fucking life. Stop getting so worked about a damn game. Goodbye and happy bitching.
  • haxxjoohaxxjoo Member Posts: 924
    Originally posted by Shastra

    This is awesome. I make one civil post to give it a chance and all jumped on me like pack of rabid dogs. I should have left you all alone to bitch and moan. You people don't deserve nice words but i wont stoop to your levels. But i must remind you..it's just a game not the real fucking life. Stop getting so worked about a damn game. Goodbye and happy bitching.



    I love when people post things like I wont stoop to your level and then follow that up with little snide comments like its just a game not the real "fucking" life.

    Um stop being so ignorant.  You came to a disgruntled veteran community and told us to get over the whole cu, nge debacle come back and try swg and got told to shove off and you are now acting all appauled by the negative response you have received to your message? Ya um ok.  Be all that way.  See ya.  As your community said to the pre-cu/cu crowd when all where trying to stop the NGE, if you dont like it leave.

  • infrared1infrared1 Member UncommonPosts: 440
    Originally posted by Shastra

    This is awesome. I make one civil post to give it a chance and all jumped on me like pack of rabid dogs. I should have left you all alone to bitch and moan. You people don't deserve nice words but i wont stoop to your levels. But i must remind you..it's just a game not the real fucking life. Stop getting so worked about a damn game. Goodbye and happy bitching.
    1) Should have thought about it.

    2) Should have known it was going to happen.

    3) Don't sound so surpised.

    4) WE KNOW IT'S A GAME.



    I am sorry that your post wasn't all you hoped.  But by asking to, "give it a chance" you are asking a lot from people. I'm sure we have all given it a change at one time or another. If you are happy with the game , GREAT. Enjoy, my fellow SWG'r. Enjoy. (famous saying time) "You can make some of the people happy some of the time, but not all the people all the time."
  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143
    Originally posted by kwai

    Originally posted by iskareot

    Originally posted by Suvroc


     
    I'd like to point out that it's not just about a game.
    It's also about corporate ethics and accountability to your customers.
    I think SOE has set a very dangerous precident in MMO's. I can no longer subscibe to any MMO and trust that my dedication to the community will not be discarded at a moments notice on the whim of a few upper management persons who will likely move on in their careers before the dust settles in their decision making.
    As a consumer I am obligated to demand satisfaction, otherwise we are left with an unchanging and stagnant situation where the customers are seen as expendable.
    Originally posted by kwai

    And you guys still keep on whining , bickering like lil bitches, its really sad to see



    Either you play the game or you don't simple as that, no reason to sit here and write a novelle about old days, its getting tiresome after a few posts with the same shit and the same people posting in it just to whine, yes i call it whine because its all you ever fucking do, christ , do something usefull with your time.

    I love those statements from the NGErs... lol those are fuel as far as Im concearned... not to mention that you can see a defense in thier post of how they do not want to be in that catagory..lol I wouldn't either.. lol

    It is funny though... they get all upset or defensive, yet they pay SOE... I feel sorry for the average NGE nowadays... they trust anyone, invest in anything and will follow a dev right off a cliff.

    They filtered all of us out of the game... the thinkers and ones that question what they are doing... now they just want people to accept what they do without expecting them to deliver a good product.

    How ironic that they may now end up on the same last 3 servers they started out with lol..




    NGE'rs ???!?!?!



    I've had SWG since 2003, so no im not a NGE person,  im a vet, but i still play SWG, i just accept the facts and move on with it and have whatever fun i can have in the game, which is what i pay for , to have fun, the day i dont have anymore fun in swg, ill unsubscribe and delete the game, till that im gonna pay for it.

     

    "As you just said "ACCEPTING the facts" --- is the exact reason why you have the game you do now with all it's success and now talk of server merging.

    You guys will nev er learn... you refuse to listen and base things on "Moving on" as your excuse... you will learn over time that sometimes you have to EXPECT SOMTHING vs just laying down and accepting it.

    That is the difference in the NGEr and the old players... right there.  You guys accept things, c laim it in the name of "moving on" but you forgot to show reasoning behind it.

    Ironic that now the game is failing and they have to consider merging servers..... THAT is what you get for your "moving on and accepting" concept.   GOOD JOB!!!!

    Anti-NGErs 1  -  NGErs 0  ................oustanding.

    EXPECT THINGS DO NOT ACCEPT THINGS!    Man...

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143
    Originally posted by haxxjoo

    Originally posted by Shastra

    This is awesome. I make one civil post to give it a chance and all jumped on me like pack of rabid dogs. I should have left you all alone to bitch and moan. You people don't deserve nice words but i wont stoop to your levels. But i must remind you..it's just a game not the real fucking life. Stop getting so worked about a damn game. Goodbye and happy bitching.



    I love when people post things like I wont stoop to your level and then follow that up with little snide comments like its just a game not the real "fucking" life.

    Um stop being so ignorant.  You came to a disgruntled veteran community and told us to get over the whole cu, nge debacle come back and try swg and got told to shove off and you are now acting all appauled by the negative response you have received to your message? Ya um ok.  Be all that way.  See ya.  As your community said to the pre-cu/cu crowd when all where trying to stop the NGE, if you dont like it leave.



    I think it's funny based on what product they are tyring to sell us... that alone is funny enough.

    "Stooping to our level"  of not being a lemming is somthing I'm rather proud of at this point.

    Hows that population doing for ya??? lol.... Oh sorry, merger concepts are on the table... shhhh good job you guys did with the NGE ..lol I mean wow......the playerbase that is left should pat themselves on the back for just accepting sub-par programming instead of listening to us and demand more.

    But hey, we told em.... they choose to make a excuse or not listen.    Firing the lead man, server merger concepts... Oh yeah, good job..lol

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

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