I've played both... WoW I played for about 3 weeks right after it launched. For some reason, I could never get "into" the game. I never felt any immersion in the game and the graphics were not to my liking at all. It was tooooo colorful, too bright and too cartoony for me.
LOTRO is the perfect balance for me. It has fantastic graphics and environments, wonderful lore and quests and the music is some of the best I've heard in any MMO. It also uses some of the things that I did like in WoW, like the ui.
_________________________________ JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
Also, keep in mind WoW has been out for far longer and has had more added to it since its release. LOTRO is not even out.
However, for me, I prefer the lore of LOTRO, I like that it is a more "toned down" and less fantastical world. Some of the weapons and armor are really incredible (at higher lvls).
Also, Turbine said they will be leaving some content for release and are already planning an addition of content for about a month after the game is released.
However, you just have to play what you like. There never needs to be a WoW killer. There only needs to be good games so that people can enjoy themselves.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
Both LotR and Wow have the same element except, everythingI play the beta of LotR, I find more errors with the game. For example; I recently I made post about dual wielding being broke because the weapon speeds are ignored because of default animation Turbine put on dual wielding. I think I'm going to stick WoW after the beta is over because of a lot of that stuff isn't going to be fixed.
you know one thing LOTRO will not have half of the bugs that WOW had at release. i bet WOW have more bugs atm then lotro beta.
I could be wrong about this, but dual wielding in this game maybe broke. I'm currently playing a champion to level 20. So far I'ved played a Captain, Hunter and Guardian to level 20, but but I notice something with dual wielding in this game and it may not just extend to that. Because of Turbine's poor program and bad animation, the attack speed on my weapons are ignored. If I have a weapon with a speed of 1.7 and another that's 3.5, I should be able to get two hits off with my fastest weapon in 4 seconds while my slow hand would get one. However, the way Turbine has the weapon speed programed, you'll always attack with both weapons at the same time. So DWing is officially broke in this game and the only way to fix the DWing in this game, would be to revamp the whole melee system.
Other things to note:
- Pet's keep wondering off for the loremaster and captain.
- Spawning in this game is broke. The spawns are either random, in the case of the diseased boar quest, or the enemies spawn too fast.
- It's way too easy sneak-thief aka kill steal in this game especially if you're captain or loremaster. This is starting to become a huge complaint in the game.
- Players have gotten smart enough to chain aggro monster into trains. Train is when you getting a group monster to chase after you when draw aggro and lead them to another group to take care of. While you have the choice to engage or not engage, players have gotten smart enough to run towards class like the Champions who use AoE attacks and timing their approach so when a Champion performs a AoE, he accidently hits the oncoming mob. (I witness myself when a loremaster ran towards another Champion in the spider caves)
- I believe when teleporting to new areas, you are dropped down into the area because I read message when coming out of the tutorial and it said you have been injured from falling. How the hell do you get injured from falling when you haven't even jump off a high platform. It would explain why my guardian died the first time I played her and in the starting area.
That's all so far, but these are thing I've noticed playing my champion.
By the way, these are just few bugs out of the many bugs I've noted in the game. Don't let me get on the Hunters and other bugs I've found.
I haven't played LOTRO yet - looking forward to another stress test though to try it. I have a friend who said he HATED it because you would be going along doing something and then be jarringly switched to some other story line... can anyone elaborate on that?
I keep going back and forth on pre-ordering the game .... but am leaning that way.
Not sure what your friend was talking about, unless he was on one quest and started another?
I think the questing system in LOTRO is probably the best I've ever seen. The quests are immersive, fun and not just your "kill 4 spiders" kinds of quests.
Try it for yourself and see what you think. I've found that just because a friend of mine doesn't like one game and prefers another, it's not always the same case for me.
_________________________________ JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
So many votes To LotrO i wold like to see your opinions, and why is Lotro beter for you. I know there are many WoW haters here that will vote against WoW just because of that.
so many votes because LOTRO is way much better then WOW on everything.
No, it's not that and it's just the MMORPG.com harbors trolls because Blizzard doesn't advertise in MMORPG.com. If they did, the mods would ban every nah sayer here. thats not true this site is full of wow FANBOIS just go look at wow rating here 8.2 doesn't ever diserve a 7.5. and i see WOW fanbois bashing every new game they even tell that war copy wow, when warhamer is like 10 years oldest then warcraft... so who copy and stole features?
If I created a AC suck topic, it'll get close down the same night. But if I create a WoW sucks topic, it'll get 20 pages of bashing with no end in sight. Look at past post and you'll see WoW bash topics have more pages than other MMORPG-bash topic, which shows they are more trolls and haters here than anywhere else. (Not to mention, posters make more trolls attempts on that forum.) And devs do little to stop people from bashing WoW. It's all about advertisement and Blizzard isn't going to pay site that also supports their competition.
Originally posted by 2hawks I haven't played LOTRO yet - looking forward to another stress test though to try it. I have a friend who said he HATED it because you would be going along doing something and then be jarringly switched to some other story line... can anyone elaborate on that? I keep going back and forth on pre-ordering the game .... but am leaning that way.
Not sure what your friend was talking about, unless he was on one quest and started another?
I think the questing system in LOTRO is probably the best I've ever seen. The quests are immersive, fun and not just your "kill 4 spiders" kinds of quests.
Try it for yourself and see what you think. I've found that just because a friend of mine doesn't like one game and prefers another, it's not always the same case for me.
You're just as bad as they guy who poster a review and gave the in-game customer service a high rating when customer service doesn't exist in BETA. ROFL! I hate to say it, but the first quests you have to do involve killing several monsters. Disease Boars is by far the worse quests at the beginning of the game because the boars are random spawns. (Which is another bug) The quests are n'timmersive since you skip them. So much for story quality.
Both LotR and Wow have the same element except, everythingI play the beta of LotR, I find more errors with the game. For example; I recently I made post about dual wielding being broke because the weapon speeds are ignored because of default animation Turbine put on dual wielding. I think I'm going to stick WoW after the beta is over because of a lot of that stuff isn't going to be fixed.
LOTRO is still in beta. Did you post feedback on the beta boards about this? Did you bug it in game?
Saying that things are not going to be taken care of before release is jumping the gun. You have no idea what will and what will not be taken care of.
_________________________________ JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
Well I really like LotrO's Quests, everythin else about LotrO is the same as WoW. I like Wow's PVP tho. So to me there basically even, its just what your looking for. PVP or RP
You do know that LOTR has PvP right?
Not just that, but a special kind of PvP that provides variety.
At lvl 40-50 your main character can PvP.
Before then, at level 10 and beyond you can begin to PvP as a Monster. This is great variety as your own character won't grow stale. All monsters begin at lvl 50, so EVERYONE is the same level. No lvl 10 fighting in a battleground of lvl 18-19's.
You also get points for Monster PvP (Called Monster Play) which can help your main character. For example, an incredibly cheap buff that increases XP gain by a certain amount for 24 hours. Run speed enhancements, hp/mp buffs, Hope boulsteering, etc. etc.
Or you can use your points to make your monster better. Buy more skills/attacks, new skins (look different!), passive powers, etc. etc.
Both LotR and Wow have the same element except, everythingI play the beta of LotR, I find more errors with the game. For example; I recently I made post about dual wielding being broke because the weapon speeds are ignored because of default animation Turbine put on dual wielding. I think I'm going to stick WoW after the beta is over because of a lot of that stuff isn't going to be fixed.
LOTRO is still in beta. Did you post feedback on the beta boards about this? Did you bug it in game?
Saying that things are not going to be taken care of before release is jumping the gun. You have no idea what will and what will not be taken care of.
Same thing they said about DDO and many of the bugs they had since beta still exist.
Originally posted by 2hawks I haven't played LOTRO yet - looking forward to another stress test though to try it. I have a friend who said he HATED it because you would be going along doing something and then be jarringly switched to some other story line... can anyone elaborate on that? I keep going back and forth on pre-ordering the game .... but am leaning that way.
Not sure what your friend was talking about, unless he was on one quest and started another?
I think the questing system in LOTRO is probably the best I've ever seen. The quests are immersive, fun and not just your "kill 4 spiders" kinds of quests.
Try it for yourself and see what you think. I've found that just because a friend of mine doesn't like one game and prefers another, it's not always the same case for me.
You're just as bad as they guy who poster a review and gave the in-game customer service a high rating when customer service doesn't exist in BETA. ROFL! I hate to say it, but the first quests you have to do involve killing several monsters. Disease Boars is by far the worse quests at the beginning of the game because the boars are random spawns. (Which is another bug) The quests are n'timmersive since you skip them. So much for story quality.
Originally posted by 2hawks I haven't played LOTRO yet - looking forward to another stress test though to try it. I have a friend who said he HATED it because you would be going along doing something and then be jarringly switched to some other story line... can anyone elaborate on that? I keep going back and forth on pre-ordering the game .... but am leaning that way.
Not sure what your friend was talking about, unless he was on one quest and started another?
I think the questing system in LOTRO is probably the best I've ever seen. The quests are immersive, fun and not just your "kill 4 spiders" kinds of quests.
Try it for yourself and see what you think. I've found that just because a friend of mine doesn't like one game and prefers another, it's not always the same case for me.
You're just as bad as they guy who poster a review and gave the in-game customer service a high rating when customer service doesn't exist in BETA. ROFL! I hate to say it, but the first quests you have to do involve killing several monsters. Disease Boars is by far the worse quests at the beginning of the game because the boars are random spawns. (Which is another bug) The quests are n'timmersive since you skip them. So much for story quality.
Bad? Excuse me, I was responding to someone else's post, not yours.
It's obvious by your post history that you're trolling LOTRO. Take a look at my post history. If I don't like a game, I don't troll it or make immature comments to people who do like a game.
I for one, am glad you don't like LOTRO.
_________________________________ JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
Originally posted by 2hawks I haven't played LOTRO yet - looking forward to another stress test though to try it. I have a friend who said he HATED it because you would be going along doing something and then be jarringly switched to some other story line... can anyone elaborate on that? I keep going back and forth on pre-ordering the game .... but am leaning that way.
Not sure what your friend was talking about, unless he was on one quest and started another?
I think the questing system in LOTRO is probably the best I've ever seen. The quests are immersive, fun and not just your "kill 4 spiders" kinds of quests.
Try it for yourself and see what you think. I've found that just because a friend of mine doesn't like one game and prefers another, it's not always the same case for me.
You're just as bad as they guy who poster a review and gave the in-game customer service a high rating when customer service doesn't exist in BETA. ROFL! I hate to say it, but the first quests you have to do involve killing several monsters. Disease Boars is by far the worse quests at the beginning of the game because the boars are random spawns. (Which is another bug) The quests are n'timmersive since you skip them. So much for story quality.
lol ya smart arse that boars ramdom spawns its not a bug is working as intended, i gotta love people ingnorance. on that area there is 3 or 4 kinds of diferent mobs you can kill spider and the next respawn there can be a boar. It's intended.
Well I really like LotrO's Quests, everythin else about LotrO is the same as WoW. I like Wow's PVP tho. So to me there basically even, its just what your looking for. PVP or RP
You do know that LOTR has PvP right?
Not just that, but a special kind of PvP that provides variety.
At lvl 40-50 your main character can PvP.
Before then, at level 10 and beyond you can begin to PvP as a Monster. This is great variety as your own character won't grow stale. All monsters begin at lvl 50, so EVERYONE is the same level. No lvl 10 fighting in a battleground of lvl 18-19's.
You also get points for Monster PvP (Called Monster Play) which can help your main character. For example, an incredibly cheap buff that increases XP gain by a certain amount for 24 hours. Run speed enhancements, hp/mp buffs, Hope boulsteering, etc. etc.
Or you can use your points to make your monster better. Buy more skills/attacks, new skins (look different!), passive powers, etc. etc.
Both LotR and Wow have the same element except, everythingI play the beta of LotR, I find more errors with the game. For example; I recently I made post about dual wielding being broke because the weapon speeds are ignored because of default animation Turbine put on dual wielding. I think I'm going to stick WoW after the beta is over because of a lot of that stuff isn't going to be fixed.
LOTRO is still in beta. Did you post feedback on the beta boards about this? Did you bug it in game?
Saying that things are not going to be taken care of before release is jumping the gun. You have no idea what will and what will not be taken care of.
Same thing they said about DDO and many of the bugs they had since beta still exist.
And your point? So does that mean since it rained yesterday, it will automatically rain again today?
If you base life on the past, you'll never move forward.
_________________________________ JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
Both LotR and Wow have the same element except, everythingI play the beta of LotR, I find more errors with the game. For example; I recently I made post about dual wielding being broke because the weapon speeds are ignored because of default animation Turbine put on dual wielding. I think I'm going to stick WoW after the beta is over because of a lot of that stuff isn't going to be fixed.
LOTRO is still in beta. Did you post feedback on the beta boards about this? Did you bug it in game?
Saying that things are not going to be taken care of before release is jumping the gun. You have no idea what will and what will not be taken care of.
Same thing they said about DDO and many of the bugs they had since beta still exist.
And your point? So does that mean since it rained yesterday, it will automatically rain again today?
If you base life on the past, you'll never move forward.
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Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
Both LotR and Wow have the same element except, everythingI play the beta of LotR, I find more errors with the game. For example; I recently I made post about dual wielding being broke because the weapon speeds are ignored because of default animation Turbine put on dual wielding. I think I'm going to stick WoW after the beta is over because of a lot of that stuff isn't going to be fixed.
LOTRO is still in beta. Did you post feedback on the beta boards about this? Did you bug it in game?
Saying that things are not going to be taken care of before release is jumping the gun. You have no idea what will and what will not be taken care of.
Same thing they said about DDO and many of the bugs they had since beta still exist.
And your point? So does that mean since it rained yesterday, it will automatically rain again today?
If you base life on the past, you'll never move forward.
Too bad, Turbine doesn't take in consideration of this statement or LotR wouldn't have so many bugs.
I played WoW for a while and Ive recently been playing the lotro beta since 1. my opinions:
WoW is almost unbeatable in the mmorpg genre so its reaaaally hard to say any one game is better than it. it has been a staple in the genre so I will only say that lotro does a great job hangin in the top spots with WoW. I personally am gravitating towards lotro right now for the main reason that its all middle earth. alot is very similar about these games. I havent played WoW in a while and I have already preordered lotro. how long I play after release is still yet to be seen. so far I havent gotten bored of it yet though. I never really got bored of WoW either but I had to stop due to RL situations and when i finally had time to go back and play I just wasnt as interested as I used to be.
Both are good games which, while sharing many features mechanically, will appeal to different people. WoW follows in the vein of games like Everquest, in which the focus of your experience is the game itself. The atmosphere in WoW is good enough that it doesn't feel generic, but I think most people aren't playing because of the compelling lore. You play such games to have a bit fun participating in the quests, economy, or dungeon crawling, but you don't usually see a storyline develop in any detail. At most, you get generic quests with only flavor text describing the story, the quest line ending with a dungeon crawl that lets you vanquish the villain.
LotRO, while similar, leans a lot more toward being a story-oriented experience in which you are placed in a saga with a definite chain of events. It's a bit like Guild Wars in that respect, in that it allows you to experience a story in a changing world from beginning to end through clever use of instancing. A good example of the two games' respective emphasis is the way they start you off. WoW gives you a few kill quests while LotRO uses an instance to introduce you to, and personally tie you into, the story.
Well this post is completely a bash on wow i i thought the original poster said not to bash on wow its great if you dont like wow and its great if you do but to say that it is a bad game would be wrong. I do agree alot of wow players may bash other games and they shouldnt but who are you to go and do the same thing it doesnt make it any better than anyone else. I do like World of Warcraft and i do play it but i also have Lord of the rings online beta right now and its a good game but every time i play it, it reminds to much of World of Warcraft with more realistic graphics foresay but these poll results will be off because there is just people who hate World of Warcraft who will just vote for Lord of the Rings. I will say it is a good game just not for me just like vanguard which isnt a great game unless you have a 2k or over rig(which i have but for alot of people they dont). Thats the big reason why people dont like vanguard but i think that game is ok to. So leave your opinions but no need to bash games you dont like.
Both are good games which, while sharing many features mechanically, will appeal to different people. WoW follows in the vein of games like Everquest, in which the focus of your experience is the game itself. The atmosphere in WoW is good enough that it doesn't feel generic, but I think most people aren't playing because of the compelling lore. You play such games to have a bit fun participating in the quests, economy, or dungeon crawling, but you don't usually see a storyline develop in any detail. At most, you get generic quests with only flavor text describing the story, the quest line ending with a dungeon crawl that lets you vanquish the villain.
LotRO, while similar, leans a lot more toward being a story-oriented experience in which you are placed in a saga with a definite chain of events. It's a bit like Guild Wars in that respect, in that it allows you to experience a story in a changing world from beginning to end through clever use of instancing. A good example of the two games' respective emphasis is the way they start you off. WoW gives you a few kill quests while LotRO uses an instance to introduce you to, and personally tie you into, the story.
WoW also has a chain of events (Brotherhood story leads to conspiring story within Stormwind), but seeing as you haven't played the game I can understand why you would post such nonsense. GW turn their story into a movie, which include movie cap screen, not found in either LotR or WoW. LotR is far from story orientated game since you can skip quests or you'll end doing quest that aren't part of the current story. WoW and LotR give you the same quest you've seen in every other MMORPG. Do us a favor and stop with the fanboyish.
It's the same thing that went down in DDO. DDO fanboys claim there were no kill 20 monster quest when you have quest that requires you to kill over 200 kobolds and kill like 30 to 40 spiders. LotR has the same quest and by far, the worse quest is kill 10 diseased boars because the spawn are random. By the way, the Spider quest in post-Archet has kill hordes of spiders just you kill the spider queen.
What exactly are you trying to accomplish here with this fanboyism and lying?
Originally posted by Thamoris It's comparable to a street version of car vs the racing version. If WoW and Lotr are Monte Carlo SS 's....than Vanguard and Eq are NASCAR Monte Carlo SS's. Not a bad thing..just take it for what it is and have fun. Stop thinking yall WoW vets are going to win a NASCAR race in that street car and yall will be fine.
The problem is that the Vanguard and EQ'ers who think they are in NASCAR racing machines.....are really just in a street car that has a few kinks or tricks to remember to do before you start the car, or that make you hold the rear view mirror up in order to get use out of it. They AREN'T in super-duper "race car-esque" video games. They are in very similar products as the ones they choose to insult.
The real irony is that you are insinuating that some of the people who play WoW go on ego trips when playing other games, when that is EXACTLY what you are doing here.
Vanguard or EQ is THAT much harder? You REALLY believe this statement? MMO's aren't rocket science anymore, but it's not like they ever were either.
Originally posted by 2hawks I haven't played LOTRO yet - looking forward to another stress test though to try it. I have a friend who said he HATED it because you would be going along doing something and then be jarringly switched to some other story line... can anyone elaborate on that? I keep going back and forth on pre-ordering the game .... but am leaning that way.
Not sure what your friend was talking about, unless he was on one quest and started another?
I think the questing system in LOTRO is probably the best I've ever seen. The quests are immersive, fun and not just your "kill 4 spiders" kinds of quests.
Try it for yourself and see what you think. I've found that just because a friend of mine doesn't like one game and prefers another, it's not always the same case for me.
You're just as bad as they guy who poster a review and gave the in-game customer service a high rating when customer service doesn't exist in BETA. ROFL! I hate to say it, but the first quests you have to do involve killing several monsters. Disease Boars is by far the worse quests at the beginning of the game because the boars are random spawns. (Which is another bug) The quests are n'timmersive since you skip them. So much for story quality.
There are many different types of quests. Yes, some you kill Boars or Bears and some you kill Orcs or Goblins and some you rescue children or an elven prince and some are very story driven. As you get a bit higher you start seeing more of the "story driven" quests. Not much higher, perhaps 15 +
The thing is, just don't do the quests you don't want to do. easy as that. There are so many of them that I had to start making decisions on what I really wanted to be doing.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
Having more fun in LOTR beta than my 3-4 months trying to have fun in WoW. LOTR all the way! Gameplay was just more fun to me than it was in WoW. I'm sure WoW has changed many ways since release, but I'll pass.
Bugs or not, in my opinion LOTR is a better more fun game. Play what you find fun.
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I voted LOTRO.
I've played both... WoW I played for about 3 weeks right after it launched. For some reason, I could never get "into" the game. I never felt any immersion in the game and the graphics were not to my liking at all. It was tooooo colorful, too bright and too cartoony for me.
LOTRO is the perfect balance for me. It has fantastic graphics and environments, wonderful lore and quests and the music is some of the best I've heard in any MMO. It also uses some of the things that I did like in WoW, like the ui.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
Well, they are both fine games for what they do.
Also, keep in mind WoW has been out for far longer and has had more added to it since its release. LOTRO is not even out.
However, for me, I prefer the lore of LOTRO, I like that it is a more "toned down" and less fantastical world. Some of the weapons and armor are really incredible (at higher lvls).
Also, Turbine said they will be leaving some content for release and are already planning an addition of content for about a month after the game is released.
However, you just have to play what you like. There never needs to be a WoW killer. There only needs to be good games so that people can enjoy themselves.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Vote: Wow
Played stress-test weekend and was supremely underwhelmed by LOTRO (and believe me I'd LOVE to find a better game than WoW but this sure ain't it.)
I could be wrong about this, but dual wielding in this game maybe broke. I'm currently playing a champion to level 20. So far I'ved played a Captain, Hunter and Guardian to level 20, but but I notice something with dual wielding in this game and it may not just extend to that. Because of Turbine's poor program and bad animation, the attack speed on my weapons are ignored. If I have a weapon with a speed of 1.7 and another that's 3.5, I should be able to get two hits off with my fastest weapon in 4 seconds while my slow hand would get one. However, the way Turbine has the weapon speed programed, you'll always attack with both weapons at the same time. So DWing is officially broke in this game and the only way to fix the DWing in this game, would be to revamp the whole melee system.
Other things to note:
- Pet's keep wondering off for the loremaster and captain.
- Spawning in this game is broke. The spawns are either random, in the case of the diseased boar quest, or the enemies spawn too fast.
- It's way too easy sneak-thief aka kill steal in this game especially if you're captain or loremaster. This is starting to become a huge complaint in the game.
- Players have gotten smart enough to chain aggro monster into trains. Train is when you getting a group monster to chase after you when draw aggro and lead them to another group to take care of. While you have the choice to engage or not engage, players have gotten smart enough to run towards class like the Champions who use AoE attacks and timing their approach so when a Champion performs a AoE, he accidently hits the oncoming mob. (I witness myself when a loremaster ran towards another Champion in the spider caves)
- I believe when teleporting to new areas, you are dropped down into the area because I read message when coming out of the tutorial and it said you have been injured from falling. How the hell do you get injured from falling when you haven't even jump off a high platform. It would explain why my guardian died the first time I played her and in the starting area.
That's all so far, but these are thing I've noticed playing my champion.
By the way, these are just few bugs out of the many bugs I've noted in the game. Don't let me get on the Hunters and other bugs I've found.
Not sure what your friend was talking about, unless he was on one quest and started another?
I think the questing system in LOTRO is probably the best I've ever seen. The quests are immersive, fun and not just your "kill 4 spiders" kinds of quests.
Try it for yourself and see what you think. I've found that just because a friend of mine doesn't like one game and prefers another, it's not always the same case for me.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
No, it's not that and it's just the MMORPG.com harbors trolls because Blizzard doesn't advertise in MMORPG.com. If they did, the mods would ban every nah sayer here. thats not true this site is full of wow FANBOIS just go look at wow rating here 8.2 doesn't ever diserve a 7.5. and i see WOW fanbois bashing every new game they even tell that war copy wow, when warhamer is like 10 years oldest then warcraft... so who copy and stole features?
If I created a AC suck topic, it'll get close down the same night. But if I create a WoW sucks topic, it'll get 20 pages of bashing with no end in sight. Look at past post and you'll see WoW bash topics have more pages than other MMORPG-bash topic, which shows they are more trolls and haters here than anywhere else. (Not to mention, posters make more trolls attempts on that forum.) And devs do little to stop people from bashing WoW. It's all about advertisement and Blizzard isn't going to pay site that also supports their competition.
Not sure what your friend was talking about, unless he was on one quest and started another?
I think the questing system in LOTRO is probably the best I've ever seen. The quests are immersive, fun and not just your "kill 4 spiders" kinds of quests.
Try it for yourself and see what you think. I've found that just because a friend of mine doesn't like one game and prefers another, it's not always the same case for me.
You're just as bad as they guy who poster a review and gave the in-game customer service a high rating when customer service doesn't exist in BETA. ROFL! I hate to say it, but the first quests you have to do involve killing several monsters. Disease Boars is by far the worse quests at the beginning of the game because the boars are random spawns. (Which is another bug) The quests are n'timmersive since you skip them. So much for story quality.
LOTRO is still in beta. Did you post feedback on the beta boards about this? Did you bug it in game?
Saying that things are not going to be taken care of before release is jumping the gun. You have no idea what will and what will not be taken care of.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
You do know that LOTR has PvP right?
Not just that, but a special kind of PvP that provides variety.
At lvl 40-50 your main character can PvP.
Before then, at level 10 and beyond you can begin to PvP as a Monster. This is great variety as your own character won't grow stale. All monsters begin at lvl 50, so EVERYONE is the same level. No lvl 10 fighting in a battleground of lvl 18-19's.
You also get points for Monster PvP (Called Monster Play) which can help your main character. For example, an incredibly cheap buff that increases XP gain by a certain amount for 24 hours. Run speed enhancements, hp/mp buffs, Hope boulsteering, etc. etc.
Or you can use your points to make your monster better. Buy more skills/attacks, new skins (look different!), passive powers, etc. etc.
LOTRO is still in beta. Did you post feedback on the beta boards about this? Did you bug it in game?
Saying that things are not going to be taken care of before release is jumping the gun. You have no idea what will and what will not be taken care of.
Same thing they said about DDO and many of the bugs they had since beta still exist.Not sure what your friend was talking about, unless he was on one quest and started another?
I think the questing system in LOTRO is probably the best I've ever seen. The quests are immersive, fun and not just your "kill 4 spiders" kinds of quests.
Try it for yourself and see what you think. I've found that just because a friend of mine doesn't like one game and prefers another, it's not always the same case for me.
You're just as bad as they guy who poster a review and gave the in-game customer service a high rating when customer service doesn't exist in BETA. ROFL! I hate to say it, but the first quests you have to do involve killing several monsters. Disease Boars is by far the worse quests at the beginning of the game because the boars are random spawns. (Which is another bug) The quests are n'timmersive since you skip them. So much for story quality.
Not sure what your friend was talking about, unless he was on one quest and started another?
I think the questing system in LOTRO is probably the best I've ever seen. The quests are immersive, fun and not just your "kill 4 spiders" kinds of quests.
Try it for yourself and see what you think. I've found that just because a friend of mine doesn't like one game and prefers another, it's not always the same case for me.
You're just as bad as they guy who poster a review and gave the in-game customer service a high rating when customer service doesn't exist in BETA. ROFL! I hate to say it, but the first quests you have to do involve killing several monsters. Disease Boars is by far the worse quests at the beginning of the game because the boars are random spawns. (Which is another bug) The quests are n'timmersive since you skip them. So much for story quality.
Bad? Excuse me, I was responding to someone else's post, not yours.
It's obvious by your post history that you're trolling LOTRO. Take a look at my post history. If I don't like a game, I don't troll it or make immature comments to people who do like a game.
I for one, am glad you don't like LOTRO.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
Not sure what your friend was talking about, unless he was on one quest and started another?
I think the questing system in LOTRO is probably the best I've ever seen. The quests are immersive, fun and not just your "kill 4 spiders" kinds of quests.
Try it for yourself and see what you think. I've found that just because a friend of mine doesn't like one game and prefers another, it's not always the same case for me.
You're just as bad as they guy who poster a review and gave the in-game customer service a high rating when customer service doesn't exist in BETA. ROFL! I hate to say it, but the first quests you have to do involve killing several monsters. Disease Boars is by far the worse quests at the beginning of the game because the boars are random spawns. (Which is another bug) The quests are n'timmersive since you skip them. So much for story quality.
lol ya smart arse that boars ramdom spawns its not a bug is working as intended, i gotta love people ingnorance. on that area there is 3 or 4 kinds of diferent mobs you can kill spider and the next respawn there can be a boar. It's intended.
You do know that LOTR has PvP right?
Not just that, but a special kind of PvP that provides variety.
At lvl 40-50 your main character can PvP.
Before then, at level 10 and beyond you can begin to PvP as a Monster. This is great variety as your own character won't grow stale. All monsters begin at lvl 50, so EVERYONE is the same level. No lvl 10 fighting in a battleground of lvl 18-19's.
You also get points for Monster PvP (Called Monster Play) which can help your main character. For example, an incredibly cheap buff that increases XP gain by a certain amount for 24 hours. Run speed enhancements, hp/mp buffs, Hope boulsteering, etc. etc.
Or you can use your points to make your monster better. Buy more skills/attacks, new skins (look different!), passive powers, etc. etc.
Playing a Monster = Horde
Monster PvP = Battlegrounds.
LOTRO is still in beta. Did you post feedback on the beta boards about this? Did you bug it in game?
Saying that things are not going to be taken care of before release is jumping the gun. You have no idea what will and what will not be taken care of.
Same thing they said about DDO and many of the bugs they had since beta still exist.And your point? So does that mean since it rained yesterday, it will automatically rain again today?
If you base life on the past, you'll never move forward.
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JonMichael
Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth
LOTRO is still in beta. Did you post feedback on the beta boards about this? Did you bug it in game?
Saying that things are not going to be taken care of before release is jumping the gun. You have no idea what will and what will not be taken care of.
Same thing they said about DDO and many of the bugs they had since beta still exist.And your point? So does that mean since it rained yesterday, it will automatically rain again today?
If you base life on the past, you'll never move forward.
QFT+E
Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs
Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW
Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
LOTRO is still in beta. Did you post feedback on the beta boards about this? Did you bug it in game?
Saying that things are not going to be taken care of before release is jumping the gun. You have no idea what will and what will not be taken care of.
Same thing they said about DDO and many of the bugs they had since beta still exist.And your point? So does that mean since it rained yesterday, it will automatically rain again today?
If you base life on the past, you'll never move forward.
Too bad, Turbine doesn't take in consideration of this statement or LotR wouldn't have so many bugs.
I played WoW for a while and Ive recently been playing the lotro beta since 1. my opinions:
WoW is almost unbeatable in the mmorpg genre so its reaaaally hard to say any one game is better than it. it has been a staple in the genre so I will only say that lotro does a great job hangin in the top spots with WoW. I personally am gravitating towards lotro right now for the main reason that its all middle earth. alot is very similar about these games. I havent played WoW in a while and I have already preordered lotro. how long I play after release is still yet to be seen. so far I havent gotten bored of it yet though. I never really got bored of WoW either but I had to stop due to RL situations and when i finally had time to go back and play I just wasnt as interested as I used to be.
IMO WoW and LOTRO tie atm
LotRO, while similar, leans a lot more toward being a story-oriented experience in which you are placed in a saga with a definite chain of events. It's a bit like Guild Wars in that respect, in that it allows you to experience a story in a changing world from beginning to end through clever use of instancing. A good example of the two games' respective emphasis is the way they start you off. WoW gives you a few kill quests while LotRO uses an instance to introduce you to, and personally tie you into, the story.
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Currently playing:wow/war
Retired:,runescape,swg,
everquest2,lotro
The problem is that the Vanguard and EQ'ers who think they are in NASCAR racing machines.....are really just in a street car that has a few kinks or tricks to remember to do before you start the car, or that make you hold the rear view mirror up in order to get use out of it. They AREN'T in super-duper "race car-esque" video games. They are in very similar products as the ones they choose to insult.
The real irony is that you are insinuating that some of the people who play WoW go on ego trips when playing other games, when that is EXACTLY what you are doing here.
Vanguard or EQ is THAT much harder? You REALLY believe this statement? MMO's aren't rocket science anymore, but it's not like they ever were either.
Not sure what your friend was talking about, unless he was on one quest and started another?
I think the questing system in LOTRO is probably the best I've ever seen. The quests are immersive, fun and not just your "kill 4 spiders" kinds of quests.
Try it for yourself and see what you think. I've found that just because a friend of mine doesn't like one game and prefers another, it's not always the same case for me.
You're just as bad as they guy who poster a review and gave the in-game customer service a high rating when customer service doesn't exist in BETA. ROFL! I hate to say it, but the first quests you have to do involve killing several monsters. Disease Boars is by far the worse quests at the beginning of the game because the boars are random spawns. (Which is another bug) The quests are n'timmersive since you skip them. So much for story quality.
There are many different types of quests. Yes, some you kill Boars or Bears and some you kill Orcs or Goblins and some you rescue children or an elven prince and some are very story driven. As you get a bit higher you start seeing more of the "story driven" quests. Not much higher, perhaps 15 +
The thing is, just don't do the quests you don't want to do. easy as that. There are so many of them that I had to start making decisions on what I really wanted to be doing.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Having more fun in LOTR beta than my 3-4 months trying to have fun in WoW. LOTR all the way! Gameplay was just more fun to me than it was in WoW. I'm sure WoW has changed many ways since release, but I'll pass.
Bugs or not, in my opinion LOTR is a better more fun game. Play what you find fun.
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