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You Decide- Graphics

You decide which is better!
On the left is Vanguard: Saga of Heroes.
On the right is Lord of the Rings Online.
We're not discussing gameplay, we are discussing graphics.
If you so desire, please include WHY you think one is better than the other.

Different sized images can be found here
 
 
Water, Trees, Houses
River Bridge
Grass and Tree Field
Flowers & Beauty
Buildings
Trees
Massive Water
Final Screens

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  • KroggKrogg Member Posts: 480

    Wow, that really put it into perspective for me.. assuming all settings equal.

    Poor vg

    but

    W00000000T LOTRO!!

  • DeadJesterDeadJester Member Posts: 499
    LoL Lol Lol ok next time post this with a heading Lotro vs Vsoh so you dont get a bucnch of Lotro fanbois
  • RonnyRulzRonnyRulz Member Posts: 479
    I updated the links, made the pictures bigger so you can better see.

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  • KroggKrogg Member Posts: 480
    Originally posted by DeadJester

    LoL Lol Lol ok next time post this with a heading Lotro vs Vsoh so you dont get a bucnch of Lotro fanbois



    LOL LOL LOL, this guy actually like the vanguard pics better..

    No more booze for you jimmy! 

    And there are 3 votes... where is the bunch? 

  • DeadJesterDeadJester Member Posts: 499
    Also You have to take in to consideration that Vsoh is a large sandbox game and you can travel as far as you can see
  • RonnyRulzRonnyRulz Member Posts: 479
    We're not discussing gameplay, we are discussing graphics.

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  • HarafnirHarafnir Member UncommonPosts: 1,350
    Originally posted by DeadJester

    Also You have to take in to consideration that Vsoh is a large sandbox game and you can travel as far as you can see

     

    Well, if you could travel further than you could see, then it would get awfully black....

    "This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
    It should be thrown with great force"

  • KroggKrogg Member Posts: 480
    Originally posted by DeadJester

    Also You have to take in to consideration that Vsoh is a large sandbox game and you can travel as far as you can see



    Why do I have to take that into consideration?  The graphics are lacking.  Why do I want to travel as far as I can see in an ugly world?

    And most MMO's I can travel as far as I can see, can't I?

  • DeadJesterDeadJester Member Posts: 499
    Originally posted by Krogg

    Originally posted by DeadJester

    LoL Lol Lol ok next time post this with a heading Lotro vs Vsoh so you dont get a bucnch of Lotro fanbois



    LOL LOL LOL, this guy actually like the vanguard pics better..

    No more booze for you jimmy! 

    And there are 3 votes... where is the bunch? 


    All I ment was posting this in a Lotro  forum is just asking a bunch of fanbois to hate on Vsoh.  So go drink your milk  and eat your cookies mamas boy  while i enjoy my beer
  • DabbleDabble Member Posts: 1,043

    Whilist, Lotr is slighty better, I wouldn't say Vanguard is crap graphics. They were nearly equal with Lotr beating out Vanguard.

  • KroggKrogg Member Posts: 480
    Originally posted by DeadJester

    Originally posted by Krogg

    Originally posted by DeadJester

    LoL Lol Lol ok next time post this with a heading Lotro vs Vsoh so you dont get a bucnch of Lotro fanbois



    LOL LOL LOL, this guy actually like the vanguard pics better..

    No more booze for you jimmy! 

    And there are 3 votes... where is the bunch? 


    All I ment was posting this in a Lotro  forum is just asking a bunch of fanbois to hate on Vsoh.  So go drink your milk  and eat your cookies mamas boy  while i enjoy my beer



    Listen son, you coming here whinging about LOTRO fanbois is what got me hating, I didn't even have an opinion about that game before then.. so thank yourself for that.

    As for beer, go drink your crap, Im a stout loving man myself, nothin beats a pint of the Irish Goodwater.

  • RonnyRulzRonnyRulz Member Posts: 479

    Actually Jester, I posted a mimic copy of this thread in the VG forum to make sure I get a fair analysis.
     
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/1258971/thread/119463#1258971

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  • TheutusTheutus Member UncommonPosts: 636

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  • PietoroPietoro Member Posts: 162
    From looking at those comparisons, I'd have to say:



    Vanguard's greatest weakness is poor lighting, imo. With bad lighting, stuff just looks dull and sterile. LotR uses colored light and such better,  which complements their models. The best models in the world, if lighted badly, will not hold up as well to a scene that is pulled together better.
  • DeadJesterDeadJester Member Posts: 499
    Originally posted by Krogg

    Originally posted by DeadJester

    Originally posted by Krogg

    Originally posted by DeadJester

    LoL Lol Lol ok next time post this with a heading Lotro vs Vsoh so you dont get a bucnch of Lotro fanbois



    LOL LOL LOL, this guy actually like the vanguard pics better..

    No more booze for you jimmy! 

    And there are 3 votes... where is the bunch? 


    All I ment was posting this in a Lotro  forum is just asking a bunch of fanbois to hate on Vsoh.  So go drink your milk  and eat your cookies mamas boy  while i enjoy my beer



    Listen son, you coming here whinging about LOTRO fanbois is what got me hating, I didn't even have an opinion about that game before then.. so thank yourself for that.

    As for beer, go drink your crap, Im a stout loving man myself, nothin beats a pint of the Irish Goodwater.

    look at what I wrote all I said was bye posting in a Lotro forum you will not get a bias opinion you are the one that said i was boozeing and i just replyed with a lil flavor like im about to do again you drunken potato farmmergo drink your stout and play with your lil  mr froto
  • RonnyRulzRonnyRulz Member Posts: 479
    Originally posted by DeadJester

    Originally posted by Krogg

    Originally posted by DeadJester

    Originally posted by Krogg

    Originally posted by DeadJester

    LoL Lol Lol ok next time post this with a heading Lotro vs Vsoh so you dont get a bucnch of Lotro fanbois



    LOL LOL LOL, this guy actually like the vanguard pics better..

    No more booze for you jimmy! 

    And there are 3 votes... where is the bunch? 


    All I ment was posting this in a Lotro  forum is just asking a bunch of fanbois to hate on Vsoh.  So go drink your milk  and eat your cookies mamas boy  while i enjoy my beer



    Listen son, you coming here whinging about LOTRO fanbois is what got me hating, I didn't even have an opinion about that game before then.. so thank yourself for that.

    As for beer, go drink your crap, Im a stout loving man myself, nothin beats a pint of the Irish Goodwater.

    look at what I wrote all I said was bye posting in a Lotro forum you will not get a bias opinion you are the one that said i was boozeing and i just replyed with a lil flavor like im about to do again you drunken potato farmmergo drink your stout and play with your lil  mr froto

     

    I posted in LOTR forum, Vanguard forum, and General Discuss forum.

    It will definitely be a fair and balanced result.

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  • KroggKrogg Member Posts: 480
    Originally posted by DeadJester

    Originally posted by Krogg

    Originally posted by DeadJester

    Originally posted by Krogg

    Originally posted by DeadJester

    LoL Lol Lol ok next time post this with a heading Lotro vs Vsoh so you dont get a bucnch of Lotro fanbois



    LOL LOL LOL, this guy actually like the vanguard pics better..

    No more booze for you jimmy! 

    And there are 3 votes... where is the bunch? 


    All I ment was posting this in a Lotro  forum is just asking a bunch of fanbois to hate on Vsoh.  So go drink your milk  and eat your cookies mamas boy  while i enjoy my beer



    Listen son, you coming here whinging about LOTRO fanbois is what got me hating, I didn't even have an opinion about that game before then.. so thank yourself for that.

    As for beer, go drink your crap, Im a stout loving man myself, nothin beats a pint of the Irish Goodwater.

    look at what I wrote all I said was bye posting in a Lotro forum you will not get a bias opinion you are the one that said i was boozeing and i just replyed with a lil flavor like im about to do again you drunken potato farmmergo drink your stout and play with your lil  mr froto



    You replied with flavor?

    OKAY

    But before we conclude, can you please reword your original reply a fourth time, into an even more PC version, just  to please me again?  I like the attention.

  • KroggKrogg Member Posts: 480
    Originally posted by Dabble


    Whilist, Lotr is slighty better, I wouldn't say Vanguard is crap graphics. They were nearly equal with Lotr beating out Vanguard.



    /agree, without having played VG, the shots still look nice, I was just being a nasty sod saying it was ugly.

    Honestly if I wasn't loving lotro so much I'd probably be playing VG right now.. although the dead server rumors are putting me off.  But I don't like to decide on rumor.

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    I'm going to give you my opinion from an old timers perspective.

    I have been playing MMOs for a long time. I see where/why you are running a comparrison with VG vs LotR. You can see some differences and yes, I like LotRs better.

    But let me show something.

    This is were MMO's started, I think its amazing where graphics have gone in the last 10 years. Based strictly on graphics, either one is a great choice.

    Heres were we started

    Heres was the next major step...3D

    Here we are today

     

    I guess my point is..."don't forget how far these games have come". Its to bad Vanguard had such a messed up launch.

    Graphics are VERY subject to personal taste also.

     

  • swede2swede2 Member Posts: 975
    Originally posted by Krogg


    Wow, that really put it into perspective for me.. assuming all settings equal.
    Poor vg
    but
    W00000000T LOTRO!!
    Those arent vanguard screenshots with with every setting maxed ,nothing beats vanguard on my 24 inch dell wide screen at 1920x1200 with every setting maxed on highest quality .  well LOTR is very sweet looking. those screenies of vanguard are staged and dont  do vanguard justice i dont care what the guy says those  arent on the highest settings
  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905
    Originally posted by swede2

    Originally posted by Krogg


    Wow, that really put it into perspective for me.. assuming all settings equal.
    Poor vg
    but
    W00000000T LOTRO!!
    Those arent vanguard screenshots with with every setting maxed ,nothing beats vanguard on my 24 inch dell wide screen at 1920x1200 with every setting maxed on highest quality .  well LOTR is very sweet looking. those screenies of vanguard are staged and dont  do vanguard justice i dont care what the guy says those  arent on the highest settings

    Those shots are not "staged". They are from right here mmorpg.com, see the logo planted in them? mmorpg.com gets those screenies from the game makers, those are old teaser shots. I would assume when Sigil / Turbine or any game maker releases screenies they release the best quality shots they can at the time. If they are not the highest setting, shame on Sigil for sending out screenies below that.
  • joeybootsjoeyboots Member UncommonPosts: 628
    Technically the graphics in Vanguard are more detailed, but the art style in LOTR is better. I say its a toss-up.
  • PretaPreta Member Posts: 103

    I don't get why people think higher poly counts and higher res textures make for more technically advanced graphics. 

    Anyone can make higher poly models, and bigger textures.  Even view distance is just a matter of settings, not some technological feat.  The real trick is getting a game to handle all that - which is a trick Sigil hasn't really pulled off at all.  So, I'd say LOTRO not only looks better artistically, it's more "technically advanced," because of how well it juggles all the resources it uses.

  • LasteraLastera Member Posts: 368
    Originally posted by Preta


    I don't get why people think higher poly counts and higher res textures make for more technically advanced graphics. 
    Anyone can make higher poly models, and bigger textures.  Even view distance is just a matter of settings, not some technological feat.  The real trick is getting a game to handle all that - which is a trick Sigil hasn't really pulled off at all.  So, I'd say LOTRO not only looks better artistically, it's more "technically advanced," because of how well it juggles all the resources it uses.
    Actually, any company can make their screen caps look good, it's the gameplay were the graphics don't match up with the still pictures. Remember LotR isn't running on 3D engine. The game may look smooth when you show a picture or two, but that's far as it goes. I post something on the general forums that posting here.



    I played Vanguard beta, but was unable to enjoy the fullness of the graphics because my outdated computer so I can't speak. However, LotR graphics LOOK GOOD, but in actual gameplay they are horrible because the animation weren't done too well. The NPC look worse than the player models. I'm currently playing the game on ULTRA HIGH SETTINGS. The game adds objects to the background/scenario and gives your character more detail, but that's as far as it goes folks.



    DO NOT BE FOOLED BY SCREEN CAPS FROM GAMES! This not only applies to LotR and Vanguard, but also any other game.



    I know some WoW BC still pictures that look really good as screen caps, but how good it looks in actual gameplay is a different story. It's like the gaming companies are falsely advertising with these still pictures.
  • Torquemada40Torquemada40 Member Posts: 71
    Also, can't wait to get the LOTRO high-res texture pack at release...yay!
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