Lets clear this up a bit shall we. This is a quote from the official G&H forums community relations manager:
SOE is the Marketing partner and Publisher of G&H. They handle all of the marketing and getting the game in a box and onto the shelves.
Perpetual is responsible for everything else. We run the servers, provide the support, and handle account and billing management. For this reason G&H will not be part of the Station Pass.
Sony is publishing the game. I'm sure they want to make the game box sells go up so they will advertize the game.
That doesn't mean it's going to be a station pass.
i wonder if they're going to "publish" this game, just like they published vanguard: saga of smedley
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Lets clear this up a bit shall we. This is a quote from the official G&H forums community relations manager: SOE is the Marketing partner and Publisher of G&H. They handle all of the marketing and getting the game in a box and onto the shelves.
Perpetual is responsible for everything else. We run the servers, provide the support, and handle account and billing management. For this reason G&H will not be part of the Station Pass.
odd that this post is above my reply.
that's EXACTLY what the boys and girls at vanguard said up until sony decided to release them early.
goldfish will eat a bite of food, swallow the food, forget that they've eaten, see more food, and eat until they die. my memory is longer than a goldfish's.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
I had actually considered pre-ordering this game... Once I found that SOE was going to be a part of it in any way -I did not. SOE has a horrible history with me and MMO's... Specifically the whole SWG debacle, horrible customer support, and basically being a corporation of underhanded business tactics and telling flat out lies over and over... I will never touch anything they touch ever again...
Before the whole close minded argument you all keep tossing around on people that make decisions based on facts about a corporation - ala SOE - you all may wanna keep this in consideration... At least we have a spine to stand up for what we believe in and stay true to our word.. AKA: Not touching SOE products.
I'll be keeping my eye on this game to see how it fleshes out but I am no longer hopeful.
The price of the game pass better not go up to $35 now I will be super pissed if it does. And if it does at least let us pick our games in a plan for a set price.
What some of you don't understand is that there is a large group of players who won't touch any game that is connected in any way to SOE. It doesn't matter who is managing the servers, who is writing the code or who is doing the advertising. If SOE is involved in any of it I, and a large group of other players, won't be there.
Just curious, what is everyones problem with sony publishing this game? is it because of swg?
the latest reason is more along the lines of "vanguard" and it's dev-stated - pay-to-play-beta-cuz-soe-made-us-release-early. cuz soe was ONLY going to publish vanguard.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Even if SOE was only responsible for the shrinkwrapping of the boxes, I would not touch another product they were involved with. They will not get another penny from me.
Why do people even care to post things like "I won't touch any SOE game" ? why do you even care posting when you see SOE in the title?
I've played all SOE games and beside Vangard, I can't say they did anything wrong.
Did they tell lies about SWG? yes they did, so? which company didn't? I can tell you, NONE. They all lie, they want your money that's all, and if you can't understand they mean BUSINESS, then I'm really sorry for you, because that's all MMO are, MONEY MAKERS.
Now you'll probably say, lying is a bad way to do business. Well I'll tell you as much, EVERY COMPANY LIES.
You watch advertising on TV, that's all lies, they just tell you what you wanna hear. How do I know? I worked in advertising, and any sane people would tell you so much.
So how is SOE worse then any other company? not at all, it's just all the same.
You paid for a product, the day you decided it wasn't worth your money you canceled I really don't see where your problem is.
Support at SOE isn't worse then any other company either, ever tried to get help from Valve or EA? they are just as bad, same for any other company, might it be for your TV, computer or washing machine.
The problem isn't SOE, it's YOU. You don't get we live in a capitalist world and hide yourself, trying to blame someone else. Look around you, every company is like SOE and YOU accept it.
Wake up, we're led by HUGE companies. SOE isn't just online games, it's also SONY, movies, computers, mobile phones, television and so on. At the end, the money goes to the same people anyway, so if you support anything even slightly linked to Sony, you keep supporting them and so you don't hold your "WORD", that's ALL bullshit. Go cry emo kid for not getting what you wanted in an online game...
Personally I accepted the fact how our world is today and I feel way better. When I don't feel like paying for a product which isn't like I want, I don't pay and search for something else, I don't feel the need to tell everyone how much I didn't like this product, because OTHERS liking isn't necessary the same.
To some other people saying SOE is "only" publisher, go try google and type game publisher, see what they REALLY do. SOE will get money from you, you don't expect them to publish a game for free, right? Or are you that stupid?
A publisher ALWAYS has a say in development, might it be because of marketing, release dates, price or whatever else.
Why do people even care to post things like "I won't touch any SOE game" ? why do you even care posting when you see SOE in the title?
I've played all SOE games and beside Vangard, I can't say they did anything wrong.
Did they tell lies about SWG? yes they did, so? which company didn't? I can tell you, NONE. They all lie, they want your money that's all, and if you can't understand they mean BUSINESS, then I'm really sorry for you, because that's all MMO are, MONEY MAKERS.
Now you'll probably say, lying is a bad way to do business. Well I'll tell you as much, EVERY COMPANY LIES.
You watch advertising on TV, that's all lies, they just tell you what you wanna hear. How do I know? I worked in advertising, and any sane people would tell you so much.
So how is SOE worse then any other company? not at all, it's just all the same.
You paid for a product, the day you decided it wasn't worth your money you canceled I really don't see where your problem is.
Support at SOE isn't worse then any other company either, ever tried to get help from Valve or EA? they are just as bad, same for any other company, might it be for your TV, computer or washing machine.
The problem isn't SOE, it's YOU. You don't get we live in a capitalist world and hide yourself, trying to blame someone else. Look around you, every company is like SOE and YOU accept it.
Wake up, we're led by HUGE companies. SOE isn't just online games, it's also SONY, movies, computers, mobile phones, television and so on. At the end, the money goes to the same people anyway, so if you support anything even slightly linked to Sony, you keep supporting them and so you don't hold your "WORD", that's ALL bullshit. Go cry emo kid for not getting what you wanted in an online game...
Personally I accepted the fact how our world is today and I feel way better. When I don't feel like paying for a product which isn't like I want, I don't pay and search for something else, I don't feel the need to tell everyone how much I didn't like this product, because OTHERS liking isn't necessary the same.
To some other people saying SOE is "only" publisher, go try google and type game publisher, see what they REALLY do. SOE will get money from you, you don't expect them to publish a game for free, right? Or are you that stupid?
A publisher ALWAYS has a say in development, might it be because of marketing, release dates, price or whatever else.
I want to see you boycott any Sony product....you can't because our every day life is affected by them. Chips in your TV, your Walkman, the movies you watch....
I want to see you boycott any Sony product....you can't because our every day life is affected by them. Chips in your TV, your Walkman, the movies you watch....
To warn some of their future customers... yeah because no other companies maek tv's etc... Most of the time people mean SOE when they say Sony...
I want to see you boycott any Sony product....you can't because our every day life is affected by them. Chips in your TV, your Walkman, the movies you watch....
To warn some of their future customers... yeah because no other companies maek tv's etc... Most of the time people mean SOE when they say Sony...
This game is Doomed....... DOOMED I tell you. I love hearing people saying SOE is only responsible for advertising and making the boxes and putting the game in stores, WAKE UP don't be so dense SOE is spending quite a bit of money on this game the suites are in control.
They're advertising this game heavily, and when you go to the website you will notice this game next to the other games SOE has; granted it may not be on the Station Pass now but if you look at the advertisement it makes it look and seem like it will be in the future. Mark my words, this game will be released half done and buggy if you're lucky if it's bad or terrible it wont be even playable and you will be responsible for alpha testing the game for 2 years while you're being charged $15 a month.
SoE also said the same about Vanguard, but if you followed the game as closely and as long as i did, you would definitely of seen the nose plant that was associated with the game.
The word is that SOE will be taking over control of Vanguard now, even though it was promised that they would only be publishing and marketing it originally. Why would we expect something different for Gods and Heroes? What guarantees can we get that can't be broken? The writing is on the wall.
SoE also said the same about Vanguard, but if you followed the game as closely and as long as i did, you would definitely of seen the nose plant that was associated with the game.
Oh Jeezus... now SoE are gettin the blame for Vanguard?
You *have* to be kidding me.
Sigil screwed VG, not SoE. MS were smart enough to dump it when they saw that it had no chance of flying.
SoE actually *saved* VG by stepping in, donating tech support etc, and imposing a level of discipline on the glut fest that the Sigil dev team had become. Of course SoE will end up owning VG (if not the whole Sigil company) in the long run, but as from them having a negative role in the eventual fate of Vanguard? Purleeez....
Btw, when I say 'saved', I mean in the same way a car crash victim is saved, only to live the rest of his existance on life support in a coma.
You G&H fans should actually be really happy, this game can only benifit from SoEs involvement.
You enraged ex SW fans make me laugh so hard. So bitter and angry over what is done and dusted. Making childish tirades at every mention of SoE's name about how evil they are... Really, it is time to get over it, move on, or seek professional help. Actually, just let it go now... it's really boring and noone but you cares.
The word is that SOE will be taking over control of Vanguard now, even though it was promised that they would only be publishing and marketing it originally. Why would we expect something different for Gods and Heroes? What guarantees can we get that can't be broken? The writing is on the wall.
No. Vanguard was always going to be handled a by SoE, NOT by Sony Platform Publishing - which is what G&H is through. They always had different deals, for instance, Vanguard was using SoE servers, billing, and customer support.
G&H has always planned to just have Sony Platrform Publishing act as their distributor and marketing partner. It's a very big difference.
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lol - SOE recently list a game it is going to co-publish - as a game that it is going to co-publish
Samuraisword now announces he will not play it, even though it has been known for well over a year that SOE is a co-publisher
I didn't realize it was going to be on stationpass. That suggests a lot more influence ala Vanguard.
its not
OP is mistaken to the facts
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Lets clear this up a bit shall we. This is a quote from the official G&H forums community relations manager:
SOE is the Marketing partner and Publisher of G&H. They handle all of the marketing and getting the game in a box and onto the shelves.
Perpetual is responsible for everything else. We run the servers, provide the support, and handle account and billing management. For this reason G&H will not be part of the Station Pass.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
odd that this post is above my reply.
that's EXACTLY what the boys and girls at vanguard said up until sony decided to release them early.
goldfish will eat a bite of food, swallow the food, forget that they've eaten, see more food, and eat until they die. my memory is longer than a goldfish's.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
FFS MAN SOE PUT MONEY INTO VANGUARD.
Why can people not read and understand or do people just like trolling?
// The G&H Townhall - http://gnhth.vault.ign.com - a Gods and Heroes fansite
Never give up and never surrender!
Before the whole close minded argument you all keep tossing around on people that make decisions based on facts about a corporation - ala SOE - you all may wanna keep this in consideration... At least we have a spine to stand up for what we believe in and stay true to our word.. AKA: Not touching SOE products.
I'll be keeping my eye on this game to see how it fleshes out but I am no longer hopeful.
Never give up and never surrender!
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
I've played all SOE games and beside Vangard, I can't say they did anything wrong.
Did they tell lies about SWG? yes they did, so? which company didn't? I can tell you, NONE. They all lie, they want your money that's all, and if you can't understand they mean BUSINESS, then I'm really sorry for you, because that's all MMO are, MONEY MAKERS.
Now you'll probably say, lying is a bad way to do business. Well I'll tell you as much, EVERY COMPANY LIES.
You watch advertising on TV, that's all lies, they just tell you what you wanna hear. How do I know? I worked in advertising, and any sane people would tell you so much.
So how is SOE worse then any other company? not at all, it's just all the same.
You paid for a product, the day you decided it wasn't worth your money you canceled I really don't see where your problem is.
Support at SOE isn't worse then any other company either, ever tried to get help from Valve or EA? they are just as bad, same for any other company, might it be for your TV, computer or washing machine.
The problem isn't SOE, it's YOU. You don't get we live in a capitalist world and hide yourself, trying to blame someone else. Look around you, every company is like SOE and YOU accept it.
Wake up, we're led by HUGE companies. SOE isn't just online games, it's also SONY, movies, computers, mobile phones, television and so on. At the end, the money goes to the same people anyway, so if you support anything even slightly linked to Sony, you keep supporting them and so you don't hold your "WORD", that's ALL bullshit. Go cry emo kid for not getting what you wanted in an online game...
Personally I accepted the fact how our world is today and I feel way better. When I don't feel like paying for a product which isn't like I want, I don't pay and search for something else, I don't feel the need to tell everyone how much I didn't like this product, because OTHERS liking isn't necessary the same.
To some other people saying SOE is "only" publisher, go try google and type game publisher, see what they REALLY do. SOE will get money from you, you don't expect them to publish a game for free, right? Or are you that stupid?
A publisher ALWAYS has a say in development, might it be because of marketing, release dates, price or whatever else.
Maybe you should look up the word ," boycott" .
Exactly.
This game is Doomed....... DOOMED I tell you. I love hearing people saying SOE is only responsible for advertising and making the boxes and putting the game in stores, WAKE UP don't be so dense SOE is spending quite a bit of money on this game the suites are in control.
They're advertising this game heavily, and when you go to the website you will notice this game next to the other games SOE has; granted it may not be on the Station Pass now but if you look at the advertisement it makes it look and seem like it will be in the future. Mark my words, this game will be released half done and buggy if you're lucky if it's bad or terrible it wont be even playable and you will be responsible for alpha testing the game for 2 years while you're being charged $15 a month.
Oh Jeezus... now SoE are gettin the blame for Vanguard?
You *have* to be kidding me.
Sigil screwed VG, not SoE. MS were smart enough to dump it when they saw that it had no chance of flying.
SoE actually *saved* VG by stepping in, donating tech support etc, and imposing a level of discipline on the glut fest that the Sigil dev team had become. Of course SoE will end up owning VG (if not the whole Sigil company) in the long run, but as from them having a negative role in the eventual fate of Vanguard? Purleeez....
Btw, when I say 'saved', I mean in the same way a car crash victim is saved, only to live the rest of his existance on life support in a coma.
You G&H fans should actually be really happy, this game can only benifit from SoEs involvement.
You enraged ex SW fans make me laugh so hard. So bitter and angry over what is done and dusted. Making childish tirades at every mention of SoE's name about how evil they are... Really, it is time to get over it, move on, or seek professional help. Actually, just let it go now... it's really boring and noone but you cares.
Now, did any of you get a beta invite, let me help you get rid of it
No. Vanguard was always going to be handled a by SoE, NOT by Sony Platform Publishing - which is what G&H is through. They always had different deals, for instance, Vanguard was using SoE servers, billing, and customer support.
G&H has always planned to just have Sony Platrform Publishing act as their distributor and marketing partner. It's a very big difference.