We dont like to nerf *male voice choir joins in the chorus*
We dont like to nerf *fanfare of cherubs*
We dont like to nerf *a thousand roman soldiers with trumpets followed by virgins tossing rose petals*
Id say from that, there is some pretty serious nerfing in the pipe.
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After reading what Brad had to say I believe that he pretty much confirmed what I had planned on doing. I was going to give the game a try in a year or so. He seems to think it will be ready to play at that time. The game looks very promising and I salute all the beta testers who are paying to play the game right now. In a year's time I'm hoping that the game will be worth spending my coin on. Until then I will continue to lurk in the forums to see what changes are being made to make this game the best it can be. I think the only problem I might have is that the pay beta testers get to keep their characters, which means that I will have a lot to do to catch up. Ah well, I guess if the game is great I won't care so much. Plus, if the game stinks then I can just play other mmorpg's and single player rpg's.
So you don't play the game, but intend to, and in the mean time you insult everyone playing the game.
You do realize the game works. That you can craft, build a house, a boat, get a mount, group, do dungeons. You know they added more stuff right?
Basically what your saying is that us beta testers can play with all the interesting new stuff when it comes out a year from now, and you'll forgo playing the game for now, and get your kicks being rude on the internet instead?
If everything the few of you guys post on this site, about how the game is unplayable and there's no content, then why is it that I can log in every night and do quests; solo, or in a group. Basically I seem able to do the EXACT oposite of the things a lot of you lie about.
You thought that was rude? It was hardly even critical and, very slightly snarky comments aside, one of the more forgiving posts. He didn't even dismiss the game entirely like so many have and said he'd give the game a chance at a later date. I found the game disappointing enough in beta to keep me away from it now, possibly forever.
What does my mom finding my girlfriend's underwear under my bed and me having to face facts about Vanguard have in common?
They both put me in very uncomfortable situations.
Result A: I ended up leaving home and marrying the girl (which lasted all of 2 months).
Result B: I ended up canceling my Vanguard subscription (which lasted all of 2 months (including Beta 3)) and uninstalling.
Lesson A: If you still live at home with the folks - do it in your CAR!!
Lesson B: Force yourself to be more critical of your entertainment. Don't buy in to the hype and don't listen to the rabid fan base. If it's not ready a month before release, chances are it's not going to be ready at release.
I reallywanted to like Vanguard but, eventually, the low FPS and much lower experience rate coupled with forced grouping (and lack of groups to group with) killed it for me.
I *may* try it again when it performs at a rate that's justified by its graphical quality.
*edit: Because I give two fucks about grammar (fuck, fuck).
Well after the last patch and they way they went in and gutted the ranger class, this game went from decent to a game not even worth playing. Avoid Vanguard - don't be stupid and waste your money on a game wherethe developers for no appearant reason whatsoever decided that certain classess needed screwed around with and gutted to the point that they have become essentially un playable at their level.
AVOID THIS GAME LIKE THE BLACK DEATH!
By the time Brad and the guys at Silky Venom get done with this game it'll be the biggest POS this side of AC2 and Vanguar makes AC2 look like the best MMORPG to have ever been released.
I'll say it again...Vanguard is the worst game currently on the market and if you're stupid enough to be paying to play it - well as they say a sucker is born every minute.
I find it comical that in regards to chunking his only real statement is telling everyone else to upgrade instead of making his game actually playable with the technology available during the time it released. What an arrogant ass.
The game is very playable with today's available technology - i think you are referring to players with older pc's
I have an older PC, so they won't get my money. So sorry.
I find it comical that in regards to chunking his only real statement is telling everyone else to upgrade instead of making his game actually playable with the technology available during the time it released. What an arrogant ass.
The game is very playable with today's available technology - i think you are referring to players with older pc's
I think you, sir, are referring to something called fiction. At this point I would normally go into a LONG diatribe about how you're just a corporate tool who has a big tattoo with the letters S, O, and E on your head (ala 666?) and blah blah blahbitty fuckin blah...
I'm not going to today because I've been thinking to much about Antonella Barba swallowing swords to be mean or hateful.
Being a Brad McQuaid fanboy from day 1, my opinion would seem invalid in this topic. The truth of the matter is, I do believe the man is a visionary, and I do think Vanguard will be wonderful in due time. I beta tested shortly and the game was almost too buggy to play. About a week before launch my friend sent me an email informing me that he had jumped back into the BETA to give it one last chance and said the changes in just that short time had been amazing. So, launch comes around, he gives me his buddy key, and the rest is history. Brad, once again, you're welcome for me putting your kids through college :-P. The game is a bug festival at this point, but that's a given when your talking about 4-5 years of development and running out of capital, thus creating the necessity to launch early to gain some flow$$. They had good intentions from the start, I do believe, and it is quite a stunning game, especially when they bump it up to Unreal 3.0. Brad and Sigil just wanted to make the best game possible and they have certainly broken new ground with the interesting housing, crafting, and diplomacy system. The only other game out, at least that I'm aware of, that allows you to create customized homes is Ultima Online, another title that sucked many years from my social life. Granted, UO is showing it's age(understatement if there ever was one), but it was a groundbreaking game as being the first mainstream MMORPG. So, I say to you, my good citizens of Britania, Norrath, Azeroth , and ....yes, Telon., take these things to heart when venturing into a new realm.; The game is going to hve bugs, it's going to have lots of class balancing, it's going to have lots of patches that will make or break the game, and it will also come around one day and shine.
I find it comical that in regards to chunking his only real statement is telling everyone else to upgrade instead of making his game actually playable with the technology available during the time it released. What an arrogant ass.
The game is very playable with today's available technology - i think you are referring to players with older pc's
If you mean playable as in the game will start and run then yes I guess you could consider it playable. However 80% of the players Ive talked with in game and in my guild have to run the game on the lowest graphical setting for somewhat smooth gameplay. Nothing is optimized and the game has tons of video lag/chop at the default "balanced" setting and above.
Yeah i hear about that alot regarding performance, as myself I play at 1600x1200 High Quality Maxxed 100% all sliders and ig et 20-30+ fps in town, 30-50+ fps out in the wilderness.
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one of the main issues tied to 8800 i get like most is the flickering white textures, and far clipping plane issue where if I set my shaders past 80% the clipping plane goes really low only way to reenalble it is to set it to 80% and log off, and log back on, and set the far clipping back to 200-400k as i have. other than that i have no real issues thankfully.
***the chunking can get annoying as you pass them, and the game pauses for 2-5sec and then the character slightly jumps and you know where the chunk is cause there is a line that cuts off half ya shadow.(trademark sign of a chunk line) minor annoyance nothing more. I noticed another issue when i passeed chunk lines from time to time, Id pause and the HDR would almost shine the whole screen like a super nova went off lol filling the whole screen, then slowly bleed off as it went back to normal, another quirky behavior, but doesnt happen alot. i believe issues I suffer from and other who own a 8800 are driver related.
also seems people with x-fi card or any sound blaster cant use the OpenAL.dll file they have in their system32 folder, cause Sigil downloads an old wierd one that is openAl 1.1 which is silly. if you remove it, the game patches it back in, but I found in forums if you log in, let it patch, and then go into bin folder in vanguard folders, and rename OpenAL.dll to OpenAL.dll.bak the game reverts to using your system based OpenAL. quite ingenious from a player.
Overall the game isnt bad, does it have problems? yeah, from what i read and what i am experiencing, it ranges from minor annoyance, to game breaker for some people. Hopefully given time this game will have the major issues sorted out. lets hope they get on the ball, if they wwant to maintain subscribers for any given period of time. For me? Im sitting pretty so far, but I dont wanna jinx myself but otherwise My experience with VSOH so far has been pretty good.
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I find it comical that in regards to chunking his only real statement is telling everyone else to upgrade instead of making his game actually playable with the technology available during the time it released. What an arrogant ass.
The game is very playable with today's available technology - i think you are referring to players with older pc's
If you mean playable as in the game will start and run then yes I guess you could consider it playable. However 80% of the players Ive talked with in game and in my guild have to run the game on the lowest graphical setting for somewhat smooth gameplay. Nothing is optimized and the game has tons of video lag/chop at the default "balanced" setting and above.
Yeah i hear about that alot regarding performance, as myself I play at 1600x1200 High Quality Maxxed 100% all sliders and ig et 20-30+ fps in town, 30-50+ fps out in the wilderness.
AMD 5600+ X2 2.81 ghz *2 1mb cache*2
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WD RAPTOR 75GB 10k RPM SATA 8mb cache
120 GB SEAGATE 7.2k RPM SATA 8 mb cache
500 watt PSU
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FRAPS it or it didn't happen. I hear quite a few people saying "oh it's your PC I have x spec and get such and such fps". Yet I have not to this day, seen any proof. If you have enough processing power to get these numbers you claim to get on highest settings. Then by all means, make a 5 min movie showing me your FPS. Hell you can even turn the settings down to Balanced or High if "Highest" doesn't work while making the movie.
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I find it comical that in regards to chunking his only real statement is telling everyone else to upgrade instead of making his game actually playable with the technology available during the time it released. What an arrogant ass.
The game is very playable with today's available technology - i think you are referring to players with older pc's
If you mean playable as in the game will start and run then yes I guess you could consider it playable. However 80% of the players Ive talked with in game and in my guild have to run the game on the lowest graphical setting for somewhat smooth gameplay. Nothing is optimized and the game has tons of video lag/chop at the default "balanced" setting and above.
Yeah i hear about that alot regarding performance, as myself I play at 1600x1200 High Quality Maxxed 100% all sliders and ig et 20-30+ fps in town, 30-50+ fps out in the wilderness.
AMD 5600+ X2 2.81 ghz *2 1mb cache*2
2GB CORSAIR XMS2 DUAL CHANNEL DDR2 PC6400
LEADTEK PX8800GTS 640mb 513mhz/800mhz
x-fi extreme music
WD RAPTOR 75GB 10k RPM SATA 8mb cache
120 GB SEAGATE 7.2k RPM SATA 8 mb cache
500 watt PSU
ZALMAN 9700 LED COPPER HEATSINK
FRAPS it or it didn't happen. I hear quite a few people saying "oh it's your PC I have x spec and get such and such fps". Yet I have not to this day, seen any proof. If you have enough processing power to get these numbers you claim to get on highest settings. Then by all means, make a 5 min movie showing me your FPS. Hell you can even turn the settings down to Balanced or High if "Highest" doesn't work while making the movie.
I find it comical that in regards to chunking his only real statement is telling everyone else to upgrade instead of making his game actually playable with the technology available during the time it released. What an arrogant ass.
The game is very playable with today's available technology - i think you are referring to players with older pc's
If you mean playable as in the game will start and run then yes I guess you could consider it playable. However 80% of the players Ive talked with in game and in my guild have to run the game on the lowest graphical setting for somewhat smooth gameplay. Nothing is optimized and the game has tons of video lag/chop at the default "balanced" setting and above.
Yeah i hear about that alot regarding performance, as myself I play at 1600x1200 High Quality Maxxed 100% all sliders and ig et 20-30+ fps in town, 30-50+ fps out in the wilderness.
AMD 5600+ X2 2.81 ghz *2 1mb cache*2
2GB CORSAIR XMS2 DUAL CHANNEL DDR2 PC6400
LEADTEK PX8800GTS 640mb 513mhz/800mhz
x-fi extreme music
WD RAPTOR 75GB 10k RPM SATA 8mb cache
120 GB SEAGATE 7.2k RPM SATA 8 mb cache
500 watt PSU
ZALMAN 9700 LED COPPER HEATSINK
FRAPS it or it didn't happen. I hear quite a few people saying "oh it's your PC I have x spec and get such and such fps". Yet I have not to this day, seen any proof. If you have enough processing power to get these numbers you claim to get on highest settings. Then by all means, make a 5 min movie showing me your FPS. Hell you can even turn the settings down to Balanced or High if "Highest" doesn't work while making the movie.
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I wouldnt blame a persons PC, cause there is too much to take in consideration hardware/software wise to stick it to one source.here ya go 2 areas, all 1600x1200 setting, maxxed sliders(resized for photobucket.com) hope this helps. the second and third one i did earlier when i was lvl 5 so game didnt register the Framerates via Fraps figured it would but didnt, would have to set a Hotkey to it to enable it, or go back to a good area that has lot going on. but either way i think this is proof enough the game works fine given proper environment :P
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WoW, those posts from Brad are real? Amazing. He really doesn't get it. Talk about a company grasping at straws.
Comments like his...
"Arguably the greatest thing about MMOGs is that they continue to advance and evolve -- they're never truly done. What an exciting upside -- to participate in a game that offers more and more the months and even years that you play it."
...just boggle the mind. He talks as if they are going to actually have people playing this pos in anything close to it's current form. You go Brad. Keep listening to your "core" gamers and keep making the same old mistakes.
Weekend double exp? How about doubling it period. Nah, you wouldn't figure that out. Instead you offer a "bonus" like it's some kind of treat not realizing that this treat is one of the things you should have done from the beginning.
Teleportation? You want "friends to be able to get together faster?" What a bright idea! LOTRO giving you nightmares? I think it is.
Forget your vision. Forget your formula. It's proven it doesn't work.
Decrease the leveling curve. Instance bosses. Reduce travel time. Get rid of corpse runs. Reduce the death penalty. Fix your graphics engine. Get rid of the rediculous mob chase speeds. Those things are just a start.
Better yet take a look at games like WoW and LOTRO for some insights as to what's fun and what's not.
WoW, those posts from Brad are real? Amazing. He really doesn't get it. Talk about a company grasping at straws.
Comments like his...
"Arguably the greatest thing about MMOGs is that they continue to advance and evolve -- they're never truly done. What an exciting upside -- to participate in a game that offers more and more the months and even years that you play it."
...just boggle the mind. He talks as if they are going to actually have people playing this pos in anything close to it's current form. You go Brad. Keep listening to your "core" gamers and keep making the same old mistakes.
Weekend double exp? How about doubling it period. Nah, you wouldn't figure that out. Instead you offer a "bonus" like it's some kind of treat not realizing that this treat is one of the things you should have done from the beginning.
Teleportation? You want "friends to be able to get together faster?" What a bright idea! LOTRO giving you nightmares? I think it is.
Forget your vision. Forget your formula. It's proven it doesn't work.
Decrease the leveling curve. Instance bosses. Reduce travel time. Get rid of corpse runs. Reduce the death penalty. Fix your graphics engine. Get rid of the rediculous mob chase speeds. Those things are just a start.
Better yet take a look at games like WoW and LOTRO for some insights as to what's fun and what's not.
man i hate to say this but i disagree with you 100% ...
keep the death penalty .. keep the incredible grind .. keep the corpse runs ... and dont put in teleportation ...the ONLY THING THIS GAME HAS GOING FOR IT .. IS its difficulty ...
if he starts dumbing it down its doomed .. i am warning everyone now .. it will be another NGE type mistake ....SOE thought they knew what players wanted ..gave it to them and the damn game fell to SHYT ...
i urge sigil not the make the same mistake ... you can add more emotional immersive content ... bring in more flavor to offset the blandness of this game and fix the bugs thats what you CAN do ....
if people want an easier dumbed down game, they will play WOW
WoW, those posts from Brad are real? Amazing. He really doesn't get it. Talk about a company grasping at straws.
Comments like his...
"Arguably the greatest thing about MMOGs is that they continue to advance and evolve -- they're never truly done. What an exciting upside -- to participate in a game that offers more and more the months and even years that you play it."
...just boggle the mind. He talks as if they are going to actually have people playing this pos in anything close to it's current form. You go Brad. Keep listening to your "core" gamers and keep making the same old mistakes.
Weekend double exp? How about doubling it period. Nah, you wouldn't figure that out. Instead you offer a "bonus" like it's some kind of treat not realizing that this treat is one of the things you should have done from the beginning.
Teleportation? You want "friends to be able to get together faster?" What a bright idea! LOTRO giving you nightmares? I think it is.
Forget your vision. Forget your formula. It's proven it doesn't work.
Decrease the leveling curve. Instance bosses. Reduce travel time. Get rid of corpse runs. Reduce the death penalty. Fix your graphics engine. Get rid of the rediculous mob chase speeds. Those things are just a start.
Better yet take a look at games like WoW and LOTRO for some insights as to what's fun and what's not.
Well, IMHO when he keeps up with this "MMOs are never done" garbage he's trying to push off the fact that its technically / mechanically not done on the paying customer. Its one thing to never be finished with expanding, improving and adding content and features...its an entirely different issue when the game is actually not complete.
If you go over to http://www.joinvanguard.com/en/ and look at the features they advertise, several of them are not ingame yet as described by the website. This is false advertisement. Where is the caravan system? Not there. Can you do what the Diplomacy description says you can do? No.
Can you run this game on the minimum specs? No. So the minimum specs are NOT accurrate they are NOT the minimum. But if you buy the game based on that, you lost your money. Minumum means that is the lowest one and still be able to play. You can NOT with the minimum specs as you can not with much higher then the minimum. This is again a false advertisment.
The game was released in a highly unfinished state as the CEO of the company freely admits this and yet they still collect the full fee. If you stopped paying your fee, would they stop service? Yes. If you only paid a portion of the fee, would they stop service? You bet your butt they would. If one pays for a game and service AS ADVERTISED, is it wrong to expect that game and service? I guess in MMORPG land it is.
Solution. If you feel the version of Vanguard is not what you paid for go here. I'm not just hammering on Vanguard but ALL of the sh*t games in the last few years that these tools of dev teams keep pushing out and expect US (me and you) to pay for while they d*ck around trying to finish it up while we pay for them.
I find it comical that in regards to chunking his only real statement is telling everyone else to upgrade instead of making his game actually playable with the technology available during the time it released. What an arrogant ass.
I agree. You shouldn't have to upgrade your computer to the latest and best everytime a new game is released. Vanguard doesn't even justify a computer upgrade as it doesn't offer anything new or better.
I find it comical that Sigil chose not to have an official forum for it's subscriber's to be able to use to get information from, choosing instead to create their affiliate program which is supposed to make it easier for us to get information on news regarding Vanguard. Yet all the Dev's including Brad himself continue to all post the most detailed information regarding the game on a uber guild website that isn't apart of the affiliate program they created and forced on their customers.
That's not surprising since uber guild raiders were their core target audience.
Thank you, Nakuma. You know so far you are the only one, so far. That has actually taken shots with the FPS showing. Sorry, if it came off like I was calling you a liar. I've just seen alot of double talk lately on forums. So my motto is "Show me proof", and sometimes a picture really is worth a thousand words.
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WoW, those posts from Brad are real? Amazing. He really doesn't get it. Talk about a company grasping at straws.
Comments like his...
"Arguably the greatest thing about MMOGs is that they continue to advance and evolve -- they're never truly done. What an exciting upside -- to participate in a game that offers more and more the months and even years that you play it."
...just boggle the mind. He talks as if they are going to actually have people playing this pos in anything close to it's current form. You go Brad. Keep listening to your "core" gamers and keep making the same old mistakes.
Weekend double exp? How about doubling it period. Nah, you wouldn't figure that out. Instead you offer a "bonus" like it's some kind of treat not realizing that this treat is one of the things you should have done from the beginning.
Teleportation? You want "friends to be able to get together faster?" What a bright idea! LOTRO giving you nightmares? I think it is.
Forget your vision. Forget your formula. It's proven it doesn't work.
Decrease the leveling curve. Instance bosses. Reduce travel time. Get rid of corpse runs. Reduce the death penalty. Fix your graphics engine. Get rid of the rediculous mob chase speeds. Those things are just a start.
Better yet take a look at games like WoW and LOTRO for some insights as to what's fun and what's not.
Well, IMHO when he keeps up with this "MMOs are never done" garbage he's trying to push off the fact that its technically / mechanically not done on the paying customer. Its one thing to never be finished with expanding, improving and adding content and features...its an entirely different issue when the game is actually not complete.
If you go over to http://www.joinvanguard.com/en/ and look at the features they advertise, several of them are not ingame yet as described by the website. This is false advertisement. Where is the caravan system? Not there. Can you do what the Diplomacy description says you can do? No.
Can you run this game on the minimum specs? No. So the minimum specs are NOT accurrate they are NOT the minimum. But if you buy the game based on that, you lost your money. Minumum means that is the lowest one and still be able to play. You can NOT with the minimum specs as you can not with much higher then the minimum. This is again a false advertisment.
The game was released in a highly unfinished state as the CEO of the company freely admits this and yet they still collect the full fee. If you stopped paying your fee, would they stop service? Yes. If you only paid a portion of the fee, would they stop service? You bet your butt they would. If one pays for a game and service AS ADVERTISED, is it wrong to expect that game and service? I guess in MMORPG land it is.
Solution. If you feel the version of Vanguard is not what you paid for go here. I'm not just hammering on Vanguard but ALL of the sh*t games in the last few years that these tools of dev teams keep pushing out and expect US (me and you) to pay for while they d*ck around trying to finish it up while we pay for them.
Poor Brad just cannot figure out why people do not like his game. Seems as if someone over at SOE is not exactly doing back flips of happiness with the subscription numbers. I have to admit I lost interest in Brads post about halfway through it, even his posts are boring as hell. However what I was able to garner that we as gamers misunderstood his whole vision thing, that the game was aimed at casual games not the core gamers as I thought. It's all the fan boys fault that everyone did not desert the Blizzard servers and run over to Vanguard.
Give it up Brad, stop trying to be all things to all gamers, make some decisions grow some gonads and stick to those decisions. The reason your game is in the mess it is in is because all through beta you could not stick with any decisions and kept going back and re doing things and ending up releasing a half ass finished game.
Instant transportation is what killed EQ1 for me. so if this happened to be added...sigh they'd just be doing that same crap to another one of their games. Traveling is an important aspect and even though they say that the horses and mounts will keep their importance within the game...I just cannot see being true with teleporters added. The only way that can work is IF they make it class based,(aka a wizard having a tele spell that he could send others to different locations) so players still technically need eachother. which they said they were not going to add.
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Instant transportation is what killed EQ1 for me. so if this happened to be added...sigh they'd just be doing that same crap to another one of their games. Traveling is an important aspect and even though they say that the horses and mounts will keep their importance within the game...I just cannot see being true with teleporters added. The only way that can work is IF they make it class based,(aka a wizard having a tele spell that he could send others to different locations) so players still technically need eachother. which they said they were not going to add.
There being no mode of fast transportation is fine for teenagers or college students with no job. For the rest of us who don't have 25 minutes to spend on a boat ride faster travel is a must.
I'm not saying their should be ports to every locale but within 10 minutes of where you're going is reasonable.
The whole idea of relying on Wizzie's & Druids brings back bad pre SOL EQI memories. I remember quite a few dopes holding the populace hostage with outrageous rates for ports & gates.
While a good idea, humans simply can't be trusted to hold greed in check.
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We dont like to nerf *male voice choir joins in the chorus*
We dont like to nerf *fanfare of cherubs*
We dont like to nerf *a thousand roman soldiers with trumpets followed by virgins tossing rose petals*
Id say from that, there is some pretty serious nerfing in the pipe.
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Epic hit?
Oh come now, giving VG that title is just silly.
So you don't play the game, but intend to, and in the mean time you insult everyone playing the game.
You do realize the game works. That you can craft, build a house, a boat, get a mount, group, do dungeons. You know they added more stuff right?
Basically what your saying is that us beta testers can play with all the interesting new stuff when it comes out a year from now, and you'll forgo playing the game for now, and get your kicks being rude on the internet instead?
If everything the few of you guys post on this site, about how the game is unplayable and there's no content, then why is it that I can log in every night and do quests; solo, or in a group. Basically I seem able to do the EXACT oposite of the things a lot of you lie about.
You thought that was rude? It was hardly even critical and, very slightly snarky comments aside, one of the more forgiving posts. He didn't even dismiss the game entirely like so many have and said he'd give the game a chance at a later date. I found the game disappointing enough in beta to keep me away from it now, possibly forever.
What does my mom finding my girlfriend's underwear under my bed and me having to face facts about Vanguard have in common?
They both put me in very uncomfortable situations.
Result A: I ended up leaving home and marrying the girl (which lasted all of 2 months).
Result B: I ended up canceling my Vanguard subscription (which lasted all of 2 months (including Beta 3)) and uninstalling.
Lesson A: If you still live at home with the folks - do it in your CAR!!
Lesson B: Force yourself to be more critical of your entertainment. Don't buy in to the hype and don't listen to the rabid fan base. If it's not ready a month before release, chances are it's not going to be ready at release.
I really wanted to like Vanguard but, eventually, the low FPS and much lower experience rate coupled with forced grouping (and lack of groups to group with) killed it for me.
I *may* try it again when it performs at a rate that's justified by its graphical quality.
*edit: Because I give two fucks about grammar (fuck, fuck).
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Well after the last patch and they way they went in and gutted the ranger class, this game went from decent to a game not even worth playing. Avoid Vanguard - don't be stupid and waste your money on a game wherethe developers for no appearant reason whatsoever decided that certain classess needed screwed around with and gutted to the point that they have become essentially un playable at their level.
AVOID THIS GAME LIKE THE BLACK DEATH!
By the time Brad and the guys at Silky Venom get done with this game it'll be the biggest POS this side of AC2 and Vanguar makes AC2 look like the best MMORPG to have ever been released.
I'll say it again...Vanguard is the worst game currently on the market and if you're stupid enough to be paying to play it - well as they say a sucker is born every minute.
The game is very playable with today's available technology - i think you are referring to players with older pc's
I have an older PC, so they won't get my money. So sorry.The game is very playable with today's available technology - i think you are referring to players with older pc's
I think you, sir, are referring to something called fiction. At this point I would normally go into a LONG diatribe about how you're just a corporate tool who has a big tattoo with the letters S, O, and E on your head (ala 666?) and blah blah blahbitty fuckin blah...
I'm not going to today because I've been thinking to much about Antonella Barba swallowing swords to be mean or hateful.
*edit: You're a corporate tool.
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The game is very playable with today's available technology - i think you are referring to players with older pc's
If you mean playable as in the game will start and run then yes I guess you could consider it playable. However 80% of the players Ive talked with in game and in my guild have to run the game on the lowest graphical setting for somewhat smooth gameplay. Nothing is optimized and the game has tons of video lag/chop at the default "balanced" setting and above.
Yeah i hear about that alot regarding performance, as myself I play at 1600x1200 High Quality Maxxed 100% all sliders and ig et 20-30+ fps in town, 30-50+ fps out in the wilderness.
one of the main issues tied to 8800 i get like most is the flickering white textures, and far clipping plane issue where if I set my shaders past 80% the clipping plane goes really low only way to reenalble it is to set it to 80% and log off, and log back on, and set the far clipping back to 200-400k as i have. other than that i have no real issues thankfully.
***the chunking can get annoying as you pass them, and the game pauses for 2-5sec and then the character slightly jumps and you know where the chunk is cause there is a line that cuts off half ya shadow.(trademark sign of a chunk line) minor annoyance nothing more. I noticed another issue when i passeed chunk lines from time to time, Id pause and the HDR would almost shine the whole screen like a super nova went off lol filling the whole screen, then slowly bleed off as it went back to normal, another quirky behavior, but doesnt happen alot. i believe issues I suffer from and other who own a 8800 are driver related.
also seems people with x-fi card or any sound blaster cant use the OpenAL.dll file they have in their system32 folder, cause Sigil downloads an old wierd one that is openAl 1.1 which is silly. if you remove it, the game patches it back in, but I found in forums if you log in, let it patch, and then go into bin folder in vanguard folders, and rename OpenAL.dll to OpenAL.dll.bak the game reverts to using your system based OpenAL. quite ingenious from a player.
Overall the game isnt bad, does it have problems? yeah, from what i read and what i am experiencing, it ranges from minor annoyance, to game breaker for some people. Hopefully given time this game will have the major issues sorted out. lets hope they get on the ball, if they wwant to maintain subscribers for any given period of time. For me? Im sitting pretty so far, but I dont wanna jinx myself but otherwise My experience with VSOH so far has been pretty good.
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The game is very playable with today's available technology - i think you are referring to players with older pc's
If you mean playable as in the game will start and run then yes I guess you could consider it playable. However 80% of the players Ive talked with in game and in my guild have to run the game on the lowest graphical setting for somewhat smooth gameplay. Nothing is optimized and the game has tons of video lag/chop at the default "balanced" setting and above.
Yeah i hear about that alot regarding performance, as myself I play at 1600x1200 High Quality Maxxed 100% all sliders and ig et 20-30+ fps in town, 30-50+ fps out in the wilderness.
FRAPS it or it didn't happen. I hear quite a few people saying "oh it's your PC I have x spec and get such and such fps". Yet I have not to this day, seen any proof. If you have enough processing power to get these numbers you claim to get on highest settings. Then by all means, make a 5 min movie showing me your FPS. Hell you can even turn the settings down to Balanced or High if "Highest" doesn't work while making the movie.
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The game is very playable with today's available technology - i think you are referring to players with older pc's
If you mean playable as in the game will start and run then yes I guess you could consider it playable. However 80% of the players Ive talked with in game and in my guild have to run the game on the lowest graphical setting for somewhat smooth gameplay. Nothing is optimized and the game has tons of video lag/chop at the default "balanced" setting and above.
Yeah i hear about that alot regarding performance, as myself I play at 1600x1200 High Quality Maxxed 100% all sliders and ig et 20-30+ fps in town, 30-50+ fps out in the wilderness.
FRAPS it or it didn't happen. I hear quite a few people saying "oh it's your PC I have x spec and get such and such fps". Yet I have not to this day, seen any proof. If you have enough processing power to get these numbers you claim to get on highest settings. Then by all means, make a 5 min movie showing me your FPS. Hell you can even turn the settings down to Balanced or High if "Highest" doesn't work while making the movie.
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The game is very playable with today's available technology - i think you are referring to players with older pc's
If you mean playable as in the game will start and run then yes I guess you could consider it playable. However 80% of the players Ive talked with in game and in my guild have to run the game on the lowest graphical setting for somewhat smooth gameplay. Nothing is optimized and the game has tons of video lag/chop at the default "balanced" setting and above.
Yeah i hear about that alot regarding performance, as myself I play at 1600x1200 High Quality Maxxed 100% all sliders and ig et 20-30+ fps in town, 30-50+ fps out in the wilderness.
FRAPS it or it didn't happen. I hear quite a few people saying "oh it's your PC I have x spec and get such and such fps". Yet I have not to this day, seen any proof. If you have enough processing power to get these numbers you claim to get on highest settings. Then by all means, make a 5 min movie showing me your FPS. Hell you can even turn the settings down to Balanced or High if "Highest" doesn't work while making the movie.
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I wouldnt blame a persons PC, cause there is too much to take in consideration hardware/software wise to stick it to one source.here ya go 2 areas, all 1600x1200 setting, maxxed sliders(resized for photobucket.com) hope this helps. the second and third one i did earlier when i was lvl 5 so game didnt register the Framerates via Fraps figured it would but didnt, would have to set a Hotkey to it to enable it, or go back to a good area that has lot going on. but either way i think this is proof enough the game works fine given proper environment :P
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Comments like his...
"Arguably the greatest thing about MMOGs is that they continue to advance and evolve -- they're never truly done. What an exciting upside -- to participate in a game that offers more and more the months and even years that you play it."
...just boggle the mind. He talks as if they are going to actually have people playing this pos in anything close to it's current form. You go Brad. Keep listening to your "core" gamers and keep making the same old mistakes.
Weekend double exp? How about doubling it period. Nah, you wouldn't figure that out. Instead you offer a "bonus" like it's some kind of treat not realizing that this treat is one of the things you should have done from the beginning.
Teleportation? You want "friends to be able to get together faster?" What a bright idea! LOTRO giving you nightmares? I think it is.
Forget your vision. Forget your formula. It's proven it doesn't work.
Decrease the leveling curve. Instance bosses. Reduce travel time. Get rid of corpse runs. Reduce the death penalty. Fix your graphics engine. Get rid of the rediculous mob chase speeds. Those things are just a start.
Better yet take a look at games like WoW and LOTRO for some insights as to what's fun and what's not.
man i hate to say this but i disagree with you 100% ...
keep the death penalty .. keep the incredible grind .. keep the corpse runs ... and dont put in teleportation ...the ONLY THING THIS GAME HAS GOING FOR IT .. IS its difficulty ...
if he starts dumbing it down its doomed .. i am warning everyone now .. it will be another NGE type mistake ....SOE thought they knew what players wanted ..gave it to them and the damn game fell to SHYT ...
i urge sigil not the make the same mistake ... you can add more emotional immersive content ... bring in more flavor to offset the blandness of this game and fix the bugs thats what you CAN do ....
if people want an easier dumbed down game, they will play WOW
Well, IMHO when he keeps up with this "MMOs are never done" garbage he's trying to push off the fact that its technically / mechanically not done on the paying customer. Its one thing to never be finished with expanding, improving and adding content and features...its an entirely different issue when the game is actually not complete.
If you go over to http://www.joinvanguard.com/en/ and look at the features they advertise, several of them are not ingame yet as described by the website. This is false advertisement. Where is the caravan system? Not there. Can you do what the Diplomacy description says you can do? No.
Can you run this game on the minimum specs? No. So the minimum specs are NOT accurrate they are NOT the minimum. But if you buy the game based on that, you lost your money. Minumum means that is the lowest one and still be able to play. You can NOT with the minimum specs as you can not with much higher then the minimum. This is again a false advertisment.
The game was released in a highly unfinished state as the CEO of the company freely admits this and yet they still collect the full fee. If you stopped paying your fee, would they stop service? Yes. If you only paid a portion of the fee, would they stop service? You bet your butt they would. If one pays for a game and service AS ADVERTISED, is it wrong to expect that game and service? I guess in MMORPG land it is.
Solution. If you feel the version of Vanguard is not what you paid for go here. I'm not just hammering on Vanguard but ALL of the sh*t games in the last few years that these tools of dev teams keep pushing out and expect US (me and you) to pay for while they d*ck around trying to finish it up while we pay for them.
https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/GetStarted.aspx
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In War - Victory.
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Well, IMHO when he keeps up with this "MMOs are never done" garbage he's trying to push off the fact that its technically / mechanically not done on the paying customer. Its one thing to never be finished with expanding, improving and adding content and features...its an entirely different issue when the game is actually not complete.
If you go over to http://www.joinvanguard.com/en/ and look at the features they advertise, several of them are not ingame yet as described by the website. This is false advertisement. Where is the caravan system? Not there. Can you do what the Diplomacy description says you can do? No.
Can you run this game on the minimum specs? No. So the minimum specs are NOT accurrate they are NOT the minimum. But if you buy the game based on that, you lost your money. Minumum means that is the lowest one and still be able to play. You can NOT with the minimum specs as you can not with much higher then the minimum. This is again a false advertisment.
The game was released in a highly unfinished state as the CEO of the company freely admits this and yet they still collect the full fee. If you stopped paying your fee, would they stop service? Yes. If you only paid a portion of the fee, would they stop service? You bet your butt they would. If one pays for a game and service AS ADVERTISED, is it wrong to expect that game and service? I guess in MMORPG land it is.
Solution. If you feel the version of Vanguard is not what you paid for go here. I'm not just hammering on Vanguard but ALL of the sh*t games in the last few years that these tools of dev teams keep pushing out and expect US (me and you) to pay for while they d*ck around trying to finish it up while we pay for them.
https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/GetStarted.aspx
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Damn, Torak you are on a roll. If you ran for president tomorrow I'd vote for ya lol.In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
Poor Brad just cannot figure out why people do not like his game. Seems as if someone over at SOE is not exactly doing back flips of happiness with the subscription numbers. I have to admit I lost interest in Brads post about halfway through it, even his posts are boring as hell. However what I was able to garner that we as gamers misunderstood his whole vision thing, that the game was aimed at casual games not the core gamers as I thought. It's all the fan boys fault that everyone did not desert the Blizzard servers and run over to Vanguard.
Give it up Brad, stop trying to be all things to all gamers, make some decisions grow some gonads and stick to those decisions. The reason your game is in the mess it is in is because all through beta you could not stick with any decisions and kept going back and re doing things and ending up releasing a half ass finished game.
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well, after several deaths on the dreaded boats in the old EQ, instant teleportation was a God send.
Of course WoW proved that you can use ships to transport across a sea and not die if a disconnect occurs.
Hopefully other games will take note of that fact.
I'm not saying their should be ports to every locale but within 10 minutes of where you're going is reasonable.
The whole idea of relying on Wizzie's & Druids brings back bad pre SOL EQI memories. I remember quite a few dopes holding the populace hostage with outrageous rates for ports & gates.
While a good idea, humans simply can't be trusted to hold greed in check.
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