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You either werent there or forgot the multiple day rollbacks on many servers from instability and crashing? I would call losing several days worth of effort in those first few months 'item and lvl losses' considering thats exactly what you lost.
Want more?
How about instant cast skills/spells taking over 2 minutes to go off? How about being stuck as a dead ghost for days because the server wouldnt register that you were near your death spot and you couldnt talk to the spirit guide? (logging didnt help) How about floating trees and rocks? (Geometry meh). Not being able to loot items cause it claimed you were 'too busy' (still happened often over a year after release). Quest page being completely blank? Quest items not registering as being picked up (and quest mobs not crediting for their death) Mob warpage (every mmo deals with this I think). Boats dropping you in the ocean instead of zoning you to the next continent (you died of course). Jumping on a gryphon/wyvern.... to have it just hover there and not go anywhere. Crafting recipes not registering you have all the right items (was still happening over a year after release). Having to wait hours to even log onto your server cause theyre so busy/laggy (sorry its still blizzards responsibility if they didnt plan well enough for the amount of people that wanted to play). How about skills that didnt even work properly and to the day I quit after about a year and a few months STILL didnt match their description/tooltips? Over a year after release a game that could be run on a C64 still got massive frame rate issues and lag in towns.
And my favorite? Most of WoWs well known content and planned stuff wasnt there from the start. BG's? How about all those raid zones that werent in game? And the one that was had major scripting errors. Isnt that what people are always complaining that beta is for? DM? Strath? UBRS? I think scholo was the only working higher end zone on release that didnt have scripting or mob errors (I could be wrong, might have been strath, doing the same things again and again cause there wasnt anything else to do at high lvls made them all kind of run together). Which normally wouldnt be an issue but with how quickly you lvld in WoW it was.
And 2 years for the first expansion? To me thats just sad :P
Dont get me wrong. I played VG for about a month and dont plan on going back any time soon. Its got its share of bugs and glitches as well. But IMO, a game that was made to push hardware deserves a little more slack when it comes to stability than one that can run on your grandma's typewriter. WoW was far FAR from a shining example and a 'polished' MMO when it was released.
Personally... I still think FFXI was the most polished MMO on release that I have played.
Edited for spelling
*walks off innocently and waits for the flames*
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
A fair review I would say. At this point, where the game feels more finished then at release, I agree with the review in that it is mostly a matter of taste if you like VG or not. Things like no instancing, huge open world and a slow pace to the game are all things that you either like or not and things that for each person either will be a plus or a minus.
I feel that the game as it stands now is as it should have been at release in terms of bugs and performance.
with that sweet Vanboi sig, I cant imagine youd say anything negative about Vanguard. After all, you went through all that time to make a nice sig to express your sheer love of the game.
I built a new system w/ all the bells and whistles, and as of 3 days ago when I cancelled my account, it ran HORRIBLY.
I dont understand why all the Vanbois have comps 10 years old that magically run Vanguard at max settings and I cant get it to stop freezing, stuttering, and crashing to desktop.
P.S. Thank you Sigil for making a game that crashes often enough to cost me lots of silver in repairs and lots of xp deaths EVERY day.
Let me guess...you put a Nvid 8800 in....many people are having trouble with that card in game...it's not officially supported yet. I never buy the latest and greatest...I always wait till its 3rd or 4rth generation. Nothing drops value faster than cutting edge cpu hardware. Not only does one pay out the butt for such gear ...but it's yet to be tried and tested by the consumer market AND many software programs have yet to patch in the new code.....assuming you have top end equipment like you claim ...I'm not surprised.
I play on an AMD 3500, Nvid 6600 , 3gb of ram just fine with settings at a mid-range level....good graphics still and 25-30 fps average. ( less in towns of course 10-20 in towns ).
It's unfortunate that you had such issues though...don't get me wrong. You made no reference to any kind of tweaks or fixes you tried though. It's as if...you got the " killer rig" and expect everything to run perfect on it at max settings.
Its as if..you think of your PC just like you think of a console system. It just doesn't work that way. If you want to be gauranteed a perfect " plug and play " experience you should stick to playing your xbox or at least...don't play any mmorpg till 6 months after launch.
I also run the game fine on my system:
Amd 3500+, 2gb ram, 7800gt, XP sp2 and resolution 1280x1024, balanced settings but no shadows.
That being said, I like VG very much BUT that is no excuse that they don't support the latest generation of video cards, things like that should be fixed asap!
It seems like people running Vista are also having some problems, "shrugs" don't really know about that but they better fix such things quick. Apart from these problems the game is in a much better shape now then at release and all those posting hate posts about performance and only played on release really should stop posting that stuff now, cause the game has really changed for the better (if you don't state that your experience of the game was at release of course)!
WoW had lots of lag, broken quests, and server down time for the first couple months after launch. So much so...the gave out lots and lots of free time due to servers being down so much.
I remember reading lots of posts about how players were mad that going into a major town turned the game into a slideshow...1-5 fps. So no...I am not in denial...The people forget..thats all. They will forget this drama as well here in a couple months and Vanguard will be free to grow without having to be under a microscope all the time....that's when things will really start to gain momentum.
Were there character/item losses? Level losses due to lag/bugs/crashes? No, WoW (as much as I dislike it) had no serious polish issues. Their only problem was, that there were so many people wanting to play, they couldn't support it, so they had to bring up a lot of servers.Kind of the contrary of VG, where there are so few people, that the place oft feels empty.
WoW was down pretty much in the beginning, as you say this was probably due to lots and lots of players, but they had a tough time performance wise in the beginning. But no game breaking bugs, a lot of lag though and a lot of disconnects the first few months.
But I do question you on VG feeling empty, I play now and it does not feel empty. At least not on the Qalia continent. I play on two different servers the european Gelenia and the RP servers, even on the RP server which does not have my time zone I don't get that empty feeling.
You have posted a lot of negative posts on VG, Random11, so I must ask you. Do you play now? How else would you know if the servers feel empty? And if you play but hate it so much, why do you play (this I would really be interested in!)?
come on OBK1 even the Developer admits the game still has performance issues. Scroll down to Cylus' post.
http://www.silkyvenom.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15857&page=7
if the game has improved so darn much since launch maybe SOE should do a public ten day trial so that all of us naysayers will STFU.
I miss DAoC
You can buy a trail like WoW now. Check it out.
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LoTRO is far from perfect, and it is not going to be the game for everyone. However but it is in a hell of a lot better shape for release than Vanguard will be even months from now. I also am a WAR, PoBS, TCoS and a AoC fanbois if you think that just because I enjoy or that I am looking forward to a game makes me a fanboy. As far as paying 5 bucks to take another look at VSoH, no way would I spend a dime just to find out that it still sucks. If Sigil/ SOE wants my money they need to kiss my butt now. Life is too short to play buggy laggy games.
Back to topic. Obviously the reviewer here missed quite a few things in his "test" of Vanguard, at least by judging by the people who still seem to post about their experiances with bugs and lag.
I miss DAoC
LoTRO is far from perfect, and it is not going to be the game for everyone. However but it is in a hell of a lot better shape for release than Vanguard will be even months from now. I also am a WAR, PoBS, TCoS and a AoC fanbois if you think that just because I enjoy or that I am looking forward to a game makes me a fanboy. As far as paying 5 bucks to take another look at VSoH, no way would I spend a dime just to find out that it still sucks. If Sigil/ SOE wants my money they need to kiss my butt now. Life is too short to play buggy laggy games.
Back to topic. Obviously the reviewer here missed quite a few things in his "test" of Vanguard, at least by judging by the people who still seem to post about their experiances with bugs and lag.
hahaYes, you are a fanboi. Like all of us who enjoy this or that game/console, whatever. Don't be in denial.
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What I said is that it is much better then at release and what I would consider release ready at this point. It did launch too early, but most issues are done away with. As you might have read in one of the other posts I made, I think it is not acceptable that they have issues with the latest graphics cards or that the game is not made to run well with Vista. But at this moment I can't say that the issues are any worse then in any other MMO I have played at launch (which is most of the big ones).
One thing though, since I know that you follow Lotro, Turbine has done a great job at polishing Lotro and that game will hopefully set the standard for other developers when it comes to launching an MMO!
LoTRO is far from perfect, and it is not going to be the game for everyone. However but it is in a hell of a lot better shape for release than Vanguard will be even months from now. I also am a WAR, PoBS, TCoS and a AoC fanbois if you think that just because I enjoy or that I am looking forward to a game makes me a fanboy. As far as paying 5 bucks to take another look at VSoH, no way would I spend a dime just to find out that it still sucks. If Sigil/ SOE wants my money they need to kiss my butt now. Life is too short to play buggy laggy games.
Back to topic. Obviously the reviewer here missed quite a few things in his "test" of Vanguard, at least by judging by the people who still seem to post about their experiances with bugs and lag.
hahaYes, you are a fanboi. Like all of us who enjoy this or that game/console, whatever. Don't be in denial. Actually fanbois (who ever came up with it being written with "i") are overly positive about their game, being the perfect viral marketing tool. They usually deny most bad parts of the game, some of them force themselves to play, just so they can be coherent with what they posted.
JD is no fan boy, I read his post about LotRO.
Apologies to the original poster for the off topic post here, but I think Matrique needs to make a Jackdog sucks thread so he can get this stuff out of his system
last two games I would consider myself a fanboy over would be Horizons and SWG. I betaed both and still bought em preaching the " give the devs a few more months, it has potential " mantra. Now a game is either good enough to get my money or it is not. LoTRO is no where near perfect but it is good enough, VSoH still has a ways to go before Sigil will ever see a dime from me. I quit buying potential a long time ago.
Now back to the regularly scheduled Vanguard bashing
I miss DAoC
last two games I would consider myself a fanboy over would be Horizons and SWG. I betaed both and still bought em preaching the " give the devs a few more months, it has potential " mantra. Now a game is either good enough to get my money or it is not. LoTRO is no where near perfect but it is good enough, VSoH still has a ways to go before Sigil will ever see a dime from me. I quit buying potential a long time ago.
Now back to the regularly scheduled Vanguard bashing
I hear ya. I was in the Horizons beta...were you one of those guys telling everyone to wait on the miracle patch that was going to make the game enjoyable and add all of the missing content? I still have a few good memories from Horizons back in the day, but man did we back the wrong horse or what?
Same with SWG though I wasn't in that beta.
The Vanguard launch reminds me so much of Horizons it's ridiculous. But I think Sigil is just a little bit ahead of the curve over Artifact Entertainment and I think Sigil may....very big may...be able to improve the game over the next year. I think that's the biggest difference.
As for the quote about animations...even Sigil admits the combat animations aren't finished and need work. "Draw Weapon" animation anyone??
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Life sucks, buy a helmet.
last two games I would consider myself a fanboy over would be Horizons and SWG. I betaed both and still bought em preaching the " give the devs a few more months, it has potential " mantra. Now a game is either good enough to get my money or it is not. LoTRO is no where near perfect but it is good enough, VSoH still has a ways to go before Sigil will ever see a dime from me. I quit buying potential a long time ago.
Now back to the regularly scheduled Vanguard bashing
Dang you are a big man...er...dog for admitting to being a Horizons and SWG fanboi. Big ups!
Jackdog is sort of like the Simon Cowell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Cowell) of mmorpg. A lot of people don't like how blunt he is but in the back of your mind you say "hmmm. he has a point."
Seems like you can't have a freaking opinion here. So you don't like em, fine. I'm not gonna try to convice you they are outstanding. Did i say they were outstanding? No, i said i liked em.
FFS.
and no one else you play with sees any problems with them.
are they as awful as the other person says? do you look away from what you're fighting? are ANIMATIONS which should be there, just sort of missing? don't confuse animations with the pretty colors and pictures.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
I like pie !
Seriously.
It's Are'el. This forum doesn't allow apostrophes in usernames.
Nod, the Guild Wars and GoH animations and chars are great.
They give weight to their characters, they're dynamic, motions have fealing.
VG needed a better art and design team, it's bland.
You can buy a trail like WoW now. Check it out. Pay for a Trial Key ? OW MY GOD NOW THATS FUNNY
You can buy a trail like WoW now. Check it out. Pay for a Trial Key ? OW MY GOD NOW THATS FUNNY
Send me a free WoW trail link then!
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