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You can buy a trail like WoW now. Check it out. Pay for a Trial Key ? OW MY GOD NOW THATS FUNNY
Send me a free WoW trail link then! https://signup.worldofwarcraft.com/trial/10dayfreetrial.htm
with that sweet Vanboi sig, I cant imagine youd say anything negative about Vanguard. After all, you went through all that time to make a nice sig to express your sheer love of the game.
I built a new system w/ all the bells and whistles, and as of 3 days ago when I cancelled my account, it ran HORRIBLY.
I dont understand why all the Vanbois have comps 10 years old that magically run Vanguard at max settings and I cant get it to stop freezing, stuttering, and crashing to desktop.
P.S. Thank you Sigil for making a game that crashes often enough to cost me lots of silver in repairs and lots of xp deaths EVERY day.
Let me guess...you put a Nvid 8800 in....many people are having trouble with that card in game...it's not officially supported yet. I never buy the latest and greatest...I always wait till its 3rd or 4rth generation. Nothing drops value faster than cutting edge cpu hardware. Not only does one pay out the butt for such gear ...but it's yet to be tried and tested by the consumer market AND many software programs have yet to patch in the new code.....assuming you have top end equipment like you claim ...I'm not surprised.
I play on an AMD 3500, Nvid 6600 , 3gb of ram just fine with settings at a mid-range level....good graphics still and 25-30 fps average. ( less in towns of course 10-20 in towns ).
It's unfortunate that you had such issues though...don't get me wrong. You made no reference to any kind of tweaks or fixes you tried though. It's as if...you got the " killer rig" and expect everything to run perfect on it at max settings.
Its as if..you think of your PC just like you think of a console system. It just doesn't work that way. If you want to be gauranteed a perfect " plug and play " experience you should stick to playing your xbox or at least...don't play any mmorpg till 6 months after launch.
Who told you this? It is "officially" supported. Who are you to tell people what hardware they should be buying and why should we wait a year to run our games at high resolutions with the details turned up? With Vanguard you basically have 2 choices :
1. Run the game with everything off on an old, slow PC.
2. Buy a cutting edge machine and have it crash on you all the time because Vanguard doesnt like new hardware.
I submit to you sir, that the problem here is Vanguard and not my hardware. I never thought I would agree with many of the more negative people here but I have tried to like it for a month and a half and I just can't. It's pathetic and it will be steam-rollered by LotRo and then by AoC and WaR. If it's even got more than 100K subs at that time I'll be VERY surprised. Brad is going to pay a painful price for choosing SOE, a company that does not have a CLUE about online gaming. The only thing they do well is bill your CC, that part of SOE runs harmoniously. Refunds, gameplay, customer support et al; that's a completely different story.
PS : Forgot option 3 : Delete that PIG from your HDD and feel a huge wave of relief, I know I did.
You can buy a trail like WoW now. Check it out.Pay for a Trial Key ? OW MY GOD NOW THATS FUNNY
You can buy a trail like WoW now. Check it out. Pay for a Trial Key ? OW MY GOD NOW THATS FUNNY
Send me a free WoW trail link then!
Here you go . http://onlinecdkey.com/index/worldofwarcraft-c-21_37.html as you can see its Free!
with that sweet Vanboi sig, I cant imagine youd say anything negative about Vanguard. After all, you went through all that time to make a nice sig to express your sheer love of the game.
I built a new system w/ all the bells and whistles, and as of 3 days ago when I cancelled my account, it ran HORRIBLY.
I dont understand why all the Vanbois have comps 10 years old that magically run Vanguard at max settings and I cant get it to stop freezing, stuttering, and crashing to desktop.
P.S. Thank you Sigil for making a game that crashes often enough to cost me lots of silver in repairs and lots of xp deaths EVERY day.
Let me guess...you put a Nvid 8800 in....many people are having trouble with that card in game...it's not officially supported yet. I never buy the latest and greatest...I always wait till its 3rd or 4rth generation. Nothing drops value faster than cutting edge cpu hardware. Not only does one pay out the butt for such gear ...but it's yet to be tried and tested by the consumer market AND many software programs have yet to patch in the new code.....assuming you have top end equipment like you claim ...I'm not surprised.
I play on an AMD 3500, Nvid 6600 , 3gb of ram just fine with settings at a mid-range level....good graphics still and 25-30 fps average. ( less in towns of course 10-20 in towns ).
It's unfortunate that you had such issues though...don't get me wrong. You made no reference to any kind of tweaks or fixes you tried though. It's as if...you got the " killer rig" and expect everything to run perfect on it at max settings.
Its as if..you think of your PC just like you think of a console system. It just doesn't work that way. If you want to be gauranteed a perfect " plug and play " experience you should stick to playing your xbox or at least...don't play any mmorpg till 6 months after launch.
Who told you this? It is "officially" supported. Who are you to tell people what hardware they should be buying and why should we wait a year to run our games at high resolutions with the details turned up? With Vanguard you basically have 2 choices :
1. Run the game with everything off on an old, slow PC.
2. Buy a cutting edge machine and have it crash on you all the time because Vanguard doesnt like new hardware.
I submit to you sir, that the problem here is Vanguard and not my hardware. I never thought I would agree with many of the more negative people here but I have tried to like it for a month and a half and I just can't. It's pathetic and it will be steam-rollered by LotRo and then by AoC and WaR. If it's even got more than 100K subs at that time I'll be VERY surprised. Brad is going to pay a painful price for choosing SOE, a company that does not have a CLUE about online gaming. The only thing they do well is bill your CC, that part of SOE runs harmoniously. Refunds, gameplay, customer support et al; that's a completely different story.
PS : Forgot option 3 : Delete that PIG from your HDD and feel a huge wave of relief, I know I did.
Sorry to say but its indeed not the smartest way to think buying the newest high end gear that it will give you what it is supose to give you, every single person out here that has ever build/bought their own pc knows(or atleast should have known) it always takes a couple of months before everything runs as it should run, yes many programs/games will do perfect right now and will shine with new gear but many games in particuliar will run better in a few months. I'm not saying Vanguard should not improve its engine, but i know this for a fact with new high end machine and those that say it should not be like that maybe have never ever had a high end system before or maybe they had but just where lucky in being able to play the game they wanted from the start. You see its not only Vanguard that can cause trouble if you have a 8xxx card.
Really there isn't been 1 single videocard neither ATI or Nvidia which had drivers that worked with everything from the start NEVER. (okay okay i can not say NEVER as i only been using Nvidia for about 12 years, before that Ati but atleast within my own experiance i never had a driver that did not needed updates)
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=21265
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=30532 you even see these kind of post but that is strange because of this the following which is on NVDIA's website
These NVIDA Windows Vista drivers are under development. This version is not fully optimized for full 3D performance and may not include all available features available on different operating systems. NVIDIA, along with the industry, is continuing to update its Windows Vista drivers to ensure maximum performance on 3D applications and add support for features. These drivers are provided "AS IS." NVIDIA MAKES NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND WHATSOVER AS TO MERCHANTABILITY, COMPATABILITY, PERFORMANCE, APPLICATION OR FUNCTION, AND DISCLAIMS ALL SUCH WARRANTIES TO THE FULLEST EXTENT ALLOWED BY LAW.
Welcome to the real world
VG is charging for trial version now?!?
The game itself is pretty much a generic mmo which should have been free anyway. And now you have to pay for the trial too?!?
I have been pretty moderate so far, telling the seekers to get a buddy key or wait for the trial version. From now on, I will say
STAY AWAY FROM THIS GAME LIKE PLAGUE!!!
CONTRIBUTE INTO THE GAMING INDUSTRY! STOP PAYING FOR BORING COPYCATS, UNFINISHED BUGFESTS AND CRANKY JUNKWARE. BE A RESPONSIBLE GAMER!
I DON'T RUN VISTA! XP drivers are great, 0 problems in any games except Vanguard.
This post is completely ignorant. Sharky obviously has his " ego " stuck in his usb slot. I suspect a certain someone goes to bars and brags to the laddies " ya know what I got? ...I got a Nivid 8800 gts in my cpu at home ! ...wanna go see it ?..I paid $500 for it ! "
I'm a grown man with 3 kids and can go drop $5 k on a cpu right now if I choose too. ( not credit...CASH ) ...without blinking. Now...why am I able to do this? because I don't go wasting my money of cutting edge gear 50% of the software programs out there aren't ready for anyways. That's one reason..expand that philosophy to all aspects of life. I prefer to put my money in ....say...my house for example. My house is an APPRECIATING asset...not a DEPRECIATING one. So you go ahead and waste your money on your cutting edge gear that won't be worth crap in a year. I can sell my house a year from now for a $50k profit ...hmm...I wonder how good of a cpu I can buy with $50k ?
Everybody knows VG was release before it was ready. That's a fact even Sigil has readily awknowledged and it's been beat to death. Point is...It's a good game...It's alot better now than it was at release....It's going to get ALOT better too !
This post is completely ignorant. OP obviously has his " ego " stuck in his usb slot. I suspect a certain someone goes to bars and brags to the laddies " ya know what I got? ...I got a Nivid 8800 gts in my cpu at home ! ...wanna go see it ?..I paid $500 for it ! "
I'm a grown man with 3 kids and can go drop $5 k on a cpu right now if I choose too. ( not credit...CASH ) ...without blinking. Now...why am I able to do this? because I don't go wasting my money of cutting edge gear 50% of the software programs out there aren't ready for anyways. That's one reason..expand that philosophy to all aspects of life. I prefer to put my money in ....say...my house for example. My house is an APPRECIATING asset...not a DEPRECIATING one. So you go ahead and waste your money on your cutting edge gear that won't be worth crap in a year. I can sell my house a year from now for a $50k profit ...hmm...I wonder how good of a cpu I can buy with $50k ?
Everybody knows VG was release before it was ready. That's a fact even Sigil has readily awknowledged and it's been beat to death. Point is...It's a good game...It's alot better now than it was at release....It's going to get ALOT better too !
Wow, taking this kind of personal aren't you? Don't let that "can't afford it" comment from Sharky get to you, he has a point.Regardless of any inability/unwillingness to purchase top of the line cutting edge cards, Brad pawned Vanguard off towards 'enthusiasts' just like Sharky who'd buy into the latest hardware for Vanguard.
I mean come on, the way Brad talks, this game isn't going to be stable until 64-bit operating systems, DX10 cards and multi-core processors are the norm.
So why preach about what you'd rather and rather not buy, and at the same time attempt to defend Vanguard somehow? Anyone can agree with not wanting to spend mass amounts of money just for a game, but if you have a problem with it in particular, then your beef is with Sigil, not the player who followed their suggestions.
So in buying into that mess from Brad about performance issues being hardware related and better hardware should help, you don't think Sharky or anyone else has the right to complain when performance issues are still crappy?
You'd rather blame the architecture of the 8800 card, or it's overall newness despite how long it's been out now? Gee, you'd think if you made a game that's supposedly been built for non-existent futuristic hardware, when that hardware does come out, you'd kind of make sure the game works on that if your excuse is that it can't work correctly on what's present.
This post is completely ignorant. OP obviously has his " ego " stuck in his usb slot. I suspect a certain someone goes to bars and brags to the laddies " ya know what I got? ...I got a Nivid 8800 gts in my cpu at home ! ...wanna go see it ?..I paid $500 for it ! "
I'm a grown man with 3 kids and can go drop $5 k on a cpu right now if I choose too. ( not credit...CASH ) ...without blinking. Now...why am I able to do this? because I don't go wasting my money of cutting edge gear 50% of the software programs out there aren't ready for anyways. That's one reason..expand that philosophy to all aspects of life. I prefer to put my money in ....say...my house for example. My house is an APPRECIATING asset...not a DEPRECIATING one. So you go ahead and waste your money on your cutting edge gear that won't be worth crap in a year. I can sell my house a year from now for a $50k profit ...hmm...I wonder how good of a cpu I can buy with $50k ?
Everybody knows VG was release before it was ready. That's a fact even Sigil has readily awknowledged and it's been beat to death. Point is...It's a good game...It's alot better now than it was at release....It's going to get ALOT better too !
Wow, taking this kind of personal aren't you? Don't let that "can't afford it" comment from Sharky get to you, he has a point.Regardless of any inability/unwillingness to purchase top of the line cutting edge cards, Brad pawned Vanguard off towards 'enthusiasts' just like Sharky who'd buy into the latest hardware for Vanguard.
I mean come on, the way Brad talks, this game isn't going to be stable until 64-bit operating systems, DX10 cards and multi-core processors are the norm.
So why preach about what you'd rather and rather not buy, and at the same time attempt to defend Vanguard somehow? Anyone can agree with not wanting to spend mass amounts of money just for a game, but if you have a problem with it in particular, then your beef is with Sigil, not the player who followed their suggestions.
So in buying into that mess from Brad about performance issues being hardware related and better hardware should help, you don't think Sharky or anyone else has the right to complain when performance issues are still crappy?
You'd rather blame the architecture of the 8800 card, or it's overall newness despite how long it's been out now? Gee, you'd think if you made a game that's supposedly been built for non-existent futuristic hardware, when that hardware does come out, you'd kind of make sure the game works on that if your excuse is that it can't work correctly on what's present.
Agreed, Thamoris is just having trouble with the facts. I wasnt trying to insult anyone, just making a point that the 8800 isnt at fault here.
I DON'T RUN VISTA! XP drivers are great, 0 problems in any games except Vanguard.
strange not a word about Vanguard, yes on other topics there is, but you see its NOT "ONLY" VANGUARD !!
welcome to the real world
I DON'T RUN VISTA! XP drivers are great, 0 problems in any games except Vanguard.
strange not a word about Vanguard, yes on other topics there is, but you see its NOT "ONLY" VANGUARD !!
welcome to the real world
Errr, welcome to the world where 8800 runs every game I play with the exception of Vanguard perfectly. Keep telling yourself its the 8800s fault. I know the truth.
I DON'T RUN VISTA! XP drivers are great, 0 problems in any games except Vanguard.
strange not a word about Vanguard, yes on other topics there is, but you see its NOT "ONLY" VANGUARD !!
welcome to the real world
Errr, welcome to the world where 8800 runs every game I play with the exception of Vanguard perfectly. Keep telling yourself its the 8800s fault. I know the truth.
Do you really think a grown man will think its only the 8800s fault, afcourse not m8 nobody will say that atleast a grown man will never say this, all i was saying don't try to be ignorant about the FACTS that you might be lucky to have all your software/hardware working.
What you actualy are saying is all those people that DO have problems with their 8800 cards only have it with Vanguard??, and all i was saying that you are wrong about that. Never once did i say that its only to blame on the card.
Welcome to the real world
This post is completely ignorant. OP obviously has his " ego " stuck in his usb slot. I suspect a certain someone goes to bars and brags to the laddies " ya know what I got? ...I got a Nivid 8800 gts in my cpu at home ! ...wanna go see it ?..I paid $500 for it ! "
I'm a grown man with 3 kids and can go drop $5 k on a cpu right now if I choose too. ( not credit...CASH ) ...without blinking. Now...why am I able to do this? because I don't go wasting my money of cutting edge gear 50% of the software programs out there aren't ready for anyways. That's one reason..expand that philosophy to all aspects of life. I prefer to put my money in ....say...my house for example. My house is an APPRECIATING asset...not a DEPRECIATING one. So you go ahead and waste your money on your cutting edge gear that won't be worth crap in a year. I can sell my house a year from now for a $50k profit ...hmm...I wonder how good of a cpu I can buy with $50k ?
Everybody knows VG was release before it was ready. That's a fact even Sigil has readily awknowledged and it's been beat to death. Point is...It's a good game...It's alot better now than it was at release....It's going to get ALOT better too !
Wow, taking this kind of personal aren't you? Don't let that "can't afford it" comment from Sharky get to you, he has a point.Regardless of any inability/unwillingness to purchase top of the line cutting edge cards, Brad pawned Vanguard off towards 'enthusiasts' just like Sharky who'd buy into the latest hardware for Vanguard.
I mean come on, the way Brad talks, this game isn't going to be stable until 64-bit operating systems, DX10 cards and multi-core processors are the norm.
So why preach about what you'd rather and rather not buy, and at the same time attempt to defend Vanguard somehow? Anyone can agree with not wanting to spend mass amounts of money just for a game, but if you have a problem with it in particular, then your beef is with Sigil, not the player who followed their suggestions.
So in buying into that mess from Brad about performance issues being hardware related and better hardware should help, you don't think Sharky or anyone else has the right to complain when performance issues are still crappy?
You'd rather blame the architecture of the 8800 card, or it's overall newness despite how long it's been out now? Gee, you'd think if you made a game that's supposedly been built for non-existent futuristic hardware, when that hardware does come out, you'd kind of make sure the game works on that if your excuse is that it can't work correctly on what's present.
Agreed, Thamoris is just having trouble with the facts. I wasnt trying to insult anyone, just making a point that the 8800 isnt at fault here.
" I reckon most of you people trying to blame the 8800 card simply can't afford one '.
Ya right...not trying to be offensive ?
I responded sharply because a statement made with such a high level of ignorance ( there is no possible way he can have ANY idea of my financial situation ) just begs for a sharp response.
This post is completely ignorant. OP obviously has his " ego " stuck in his usb slot. I suspect a certain someone goes to bars and brags to the laddies " ya know what I got? ...I got a Nivid 8800 gts in my cpu at home ! ...wanna go see it ?..I paid $500 for it ! "
I'm a grown man with 3 kids and can go drop $5 k on a cpu right now if I choose too. ( not credit...CASH ) ...without blinking. Now...why am I able to do this? because I don't go wasting my money of cutting edge gear 50% of the software programs out there aren't ready for anyways. That's one reason..expand that philosophy to all aspects of life. I prefer to put my money in ....say...my house for example. My house is an APPRECIATING asset...not a DEPRECIATING one. So you go ahead and waste your money on your cutting edge gear that won't be worth crap in a year. I can sell my house a year from now for a $50k profit ...hmm...I wonder how good of a cpu I can buy with $50k ?
Everybody knows VG was release before it was ready. That's a fact even Sigil has readily awknowledged and it's been beat to death. Point is...It's a good game...It's alot better now than it was at release....It's going to get ALOT better too !
Wow, taking this kind of personal aren't you? Don't let that "can't afford it" comment from Sharky get to you, he has a point.Regardless of any inability/unwillingness to purchase top of the line cutting edge cards, Brad pawned Vanguard off towards 'enthusiasts' just like Sharky who'd buy into the latest hardware for Vanguard.
I mean come on, the way Brad talks, this game isn't going to be stable until 64-bit operating systems, DX10 cards and multi-core processors are the norm.
So why preach about what you'd rather and rather not buy, and at the same time attempt to defend Vanguard somehow? Anyone can agree with not wanting to spend mass amounts of money just for a game, but if you have a problem with it in particular, then your beef is with Sigil, not the player who followed their suggestions.
So in buying into that mess from Brad about performance issues being hardware related and better hardware should help, you don't think Sharky or anyone else has the right to complain when performance issues are still crappy?
You'd rather blame the architecture of the 8800 card, or it's overall newness despite how long it's been out now? Gee, you'd think if you made a game that's supposedly been built for non-existent futuristic hardware, when that hardware does come out, you'd kind of make sure the game works on that if your excuse is that it can't work correctly on what's present.
Agreed, Thamoris is just having trouble with the facts. I wasnt trying to insult anyone, just making a point that the 8800 isnt at fault here.
" I reckon most of you people trying to blame the 8800 card simply can't afford one '.
Ya right...not trying to be offensive ?
I responded sharply because a statement made with such a high level of ignorance ( there is no possible way he can have ANY idea of my financial situation ) just begs for a sharp response.
I could care less about your financial situation, You're the one who seems to feel it necessary to justify how much cash you have. I like to game at high resolutions etc, so your particular solution is no good for me and many others.
Lag, bugs and weird issues under control?
They must be talking about some other game. This review can't be taken seriously with a comment like the bugs under control in VG. It's like VG saying minimum specs requirements for this game can be 512 of ram on it's game box.
I wonder what they got in return for this review?
The terrible game performance is the core of the complaints and departures from this game and it's under control?
Lies, lies, lies, all lies I tell you!!!
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I am only stopping in on this flamefest to drop my 2cp on some of the things said here.
1st: Why is it that if someone says "I like the animations in Vanguard, and for the most part so do others that I play with" they are in denial? How can one be in denial of their own PERSONAL opinion? Can't someone like something you don't like without you getting your panties in a twist? I think some of you need to take a time out....now if her said "YOU like the animations in Vanguard" you would have a good reason to cry out, but the fact remains that he stated his opinions and nothing you can do will ever make them untrue.
2nd: I am no Vanboi by any stretch, but I am currently having a pretty good time in the game. I'll be the first to admit that the animations in combat can be pretty lacking, but they can also be pretty awesome at times. My only real complaint is that you don't look at what you are fighting you just stare blankly ahead, and there are no facial animations in game currently.
3rd: I just experienced my first CTD's this weekend, and they are extremely annoying. I also just started getting group bugs with loots and people getting disconnected from group and have to relog to fix it. These are extremely frustrating, but fairly easy to fix. Still, they need to be taken out of the game ASAP if I am to start paying for a sub.
This post is completely ignorant. OP obviously has his " ego " stuck in his usb slot. I suspect a certain someone goes to bars and brags to the laddies " ya know what I got? ...I got a Nivid 8800 gts in my cpu at home ! ...wanna go see it ?..I paid $500 for it ! "
I'm a grown man with 3 kids and can go drop $5 k on a cpu right now if I choose too. ( not credit...CASH ) ...without blinking. Now...why am I able to do this? because I don't go wasting my money of cutting edge gear 50% of the software programs out there aren't ready for anyways. That's one reason..expand that philosophy to all aspects of life. I prefer to put my money in ....say...my house for example. My house is an APPRECIATING asset...not a DEPRECIATING one. So you go ahead and waste your money on your cutting edge gear that won't be worth crap in a year. I can sell my house a year from now for a $50k profit ...hmm...I wonder how good of a cpu I can buy with $50k ?
Everybody knows VG was release before it was ready. That's a fact even Sigil has readily awknowledged and it's been beat to death. Point is...It's a good game...It's alot better now than it was at release....It's going to get ALOT better too !
Wow, taking this kind of personal aren't you? Don't let that "can't afford it" comment from Sharky get to you, he has a point.Regardless of any inability/unwillingness to purchase top of the line cutting edge cards, Brad pawned Vanguard off towards 'enthusiasts' just like Sharky who'd buy into the latest hardware for Vanguard.
I mean come on, the way Brad talks, this game isn't going to be stable until 64-bit operating systems, DX10 cards and multi-core processors are the norm.
So why preach about what you'd rather and rather not buy, and at the same time attempt to defend Vanguard somehow? Anyone can agree with not wanting to spend mass amounts of money just for a game, but if you have a problem with it in particular, then your beef is with Sigil, not the player who followed their suggestions.
So in buying into that mess from Brad about performance issues being hardware related and better hardware should help, you don't think Sharky or anyone else has the right to complain when performance issues are still crappy?
You'd rather blame the architecture of the 8800 card, or it's overall newness despite how long it's been out now? Gee, you'd think if you made a game that's supposedly been built for non-existent futuristic hardware, when that hardware does come out, you'd kind of make sure the game works on that if your excuse is that it can't work correctly on what's present.
Agreed, Thamoris is just having trouble with the facts. I wasnt trying to insult anyone, just making a point that the 8800 isnt at fault here.
" I reckon most of you people trying to blame the 8800 card simply can't afford one '.
Ya right...not trying to be offensive ?
I responded sharply because a statement made with such a high level of ignorance ( there is no possible way he can have ANY idea of my financial situation ) just begs for a sharp response.
Yo thamoris calm down. Your taking things to damn serious for a game.you have to admit he does have a point . Wow has problems with ati cards, is this a Harware issue, no. Bliz made a deal with nvidia and supports thier cards more, Infact wow had problems with the 6800 when it came out and blizzard had to fix the prob on thier part.
Also as said before, brad did say that this game will support next gen hardware, yet people have to tweak ini files to boost preformance on current and last gen cards.
Take it easy, seeing the dedication you give to this game, while having a family and a good job is not a good mix. You have to be lacking in one area especially how you defend this game and have your own guild. I stopped playing mmos for the moment to enjoy my newborn and prob might not got back unless a mmo comes out thats more casual than wow. A few hours a week is all i can afford for gaming. You might wanna spend more time with your kids than your guild mates.
"dont bother dad hes playing vanguard which sucks less then the rest"
Watching Fanbois drop their soap in a prison full of desperate men.
This post is completely ignorant. OP obviously has his " ego " stuck in his usb slot. I suspect a certain someone goes to bars and brags to the laddies " ya know what I got? ...I got a Nivid 8800 gts in my cpu at home ! ...wanna go see it ?..I paid $500 for it ! "
I'm a grown man with 3 kids and can go drop $5 k on a cpu right now if I choose too. ( not credit...CASH ) ...without blinking. Now...why am I able to do this? because I don't go wasting my money of cutting edge gear 50% of the software programs out there aren't ready for anyways. That's one reason..expand that philosophy to all aspects of life. I prefer to put my money in ....say...my house for example. My house is an APPRECIATING asset...not a DEPRECIATING one. So you go ahead and waste your money on your cutting edge gear that won't be worth crap in a year. I can sell my house a year from now for a $50k profit ...hmm...I wonder how good of a cpu I can buy with $50k ?
Everybody knows VG was release before it was ready. That's a fact even Sigil has readily awknowledged and it's been beat to death. Point is...It's a good game...It's alot better now than it was at release....It's going to get ALOT better too !
Wow, taking this kind of personal aren't you? Don't let that "can't afford it" comment from Sharky get to you, he has a point.Regardless of any inability/unwillingness to purchase top of the line cutting edge cards, Brad pawned Vanguard off towards 'enthusiasts' just like Sharky who'd buy into the latest hardware for Vanguard.
I mean come on, the way Brad talks, this game isn't going to be stable until 64-bit operating systems, DX10 cards and multi-core processors are the norm.
So why preach about what you'd rather and rather not buy, and at the same time attempt to defend Vanguard somehow? Anyone can agree with not wanting to spend mass amounts of money just for a game, but if you have a problem with it in particular, then your beef is with Sigil, not the player who followed their suggestions.
So in buying into that mess from Brad about performance issues being hardware related and better hardware should help, you don't think Sharky or anyone else has the right to complain when performance issues are still crappy?
You'd rather blame the architecture of the 8800 card, or it's overall newness despite how long it's been out now? Gee, you'd think if you made a game that's supposedly been built for non-existent futuristic hardware, when that hardware does come out, you'd kind of make sure the game works on that if your excuse is that it can't work correctly on what's present.
Agreed, Thamoris is just having trouble with the facts. I wasnt trying to insult anyone, just making a point that the 8800 isnt at fault here.
" I reckon most of you people trying to blame the 8800 card simply can't afford one '.
Ya right...not trying to be offensive ?
I responded sharply because a statement made with such a high level of ignorance ( there is no possible way he can have ANY idea of my financial situation ) just begs for a sharp response.
Yo thamoris calm down. Your taking things to damn serious for a game.you have to admit he does have a point . Wow has problems with ati cards, is this a Harware issue, no. Bliz made a deal with nvidia and supports thier cards more, Infact wow had problems with the 6800 when it came out and blizzard had to fix the prob on thier part.
Also as said before, brad did say that this game will support next gen hardware, yet people have to tweak ini files to boost preformance on current and last gen cards.
Take it easy, seeing the dedication you give to this game, while having a family and a good job is not a good mix. You have to be lacking in one area especially how you defend this game and have your own guild. I stopped playing mmos for the moment to enjoy my newborn and prob might not got back unless a mmo comes out thats more casual than wow. A few hours a week is all i can afford for gaming. You might wanna spend more time with your kids than your guild mates.
"dont bother dad hes playing vanguard which sucks less then the rest"
Congrats on the newborn!
And much respect to you for putting your child first which is what a parent should always do.
So it's not constructive at all for one to say they like them. It's not like the quality and amount of animations were a choice made by Sigil and they're satisfied with it. Of course it's different from saying "I like crashing to desktop", "The random rollbacks are awesome", etc. But it's just as useless to imply you're fine with the way animations are as is and they leave nothing to be desired.
As far as it being his opinion; that's the whole reason for argument. It's what you do when opinions conflict; specifically presenting enough facts to dispel any insinuations someone else could pick up from an unobjective remark such as that one. It's not about changing his opinion, just putting into perspective what could be implied by that opinion.
Now that's objectivity, and therefore useful.
So it's not constructive at all for one to say they like them. It's not like the quality and amount of animations were a choice made by Sigil and they're satisfied with it. Of course it's different from saying "I like crashing to desktop", "The random rollbacks are awesome", etc. But it's just as useless to imply you're fine with the way animations are as is and they leave nothing to be desired.
As far as it being his opinion; that's the whole reason for argument. It's what you do when opinions conflict; specifically presenting enough facts to dispel any insinuations someone else could pick up from an unobjective remark such as that one. It's not about changing his opinion, just putting into perspective what could be implied by that opinion.
Now that's objectivity, and therefore useful.
I do understand your point, but there is just never any need to be so rude about it. I mean, opinions differ, and thats what these forums are for but just blindly telling someone that their opinion is bunk because you don't agree is a bit closed minded.
Thanks for the compliment on my post though, and thanks for the well worded reply.