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  • LasteraLastera Member Posts: 368
    Originally posted by starman999

    I dont see them making WOW's mistake..................





    WOW underestimated the popularity of the game and didnt have enough servers at release so they spent a bunch of time and money playing catch up. Knowing they will have at least 600k players already will help them determine the number of servers they will need to accomodate all of us without waiting in long ques.

    Yeah, as if every MMORPG knew at the time it was possible to get over million players worldwide to play game. They expect EQ numbers, they didn't realize how big the MMORPG was when they got in. And long waits will be the least of your problems if have over 600k players. Does anyone remember the guilds fiasco when it hit 1 million. It went from being the greatest game to crappiest because survey says...kids began to play the game and they weren't enough moderators to secure the game.
  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    NOTE: I love the game, i'm pumped, it's gonna be a blast, pre-ordered 3 copies...



    But one can't make too big of a deal about this pre-order thing. Think about it. For 10 bucks (in the US) you can play starting on Mar 30, and you have until May 24 to turn it into a live purchase (50 plus 10/mo, or 200 for lifetime). If you do not redeem your preorder, then you get to play LOTRO for 7 weeks for 10 bucks?! That's like the cost of a burger meal or a movie... worst case. I seem to remember some games having betas that would require a month membership at fileplanet to get the client or something, and that was like 7 bucks, and it would be for less than a month).



    10 bucks for 7 weeks of a major MMO? And it's middle earth, the grandfather of all modern sword-n-sorcery?  Someone would have to have seen it and just really hate it to not get in on that deal.



    So the pre-orders subs could take a big drop at the retail-conversion deadline (May-24). Especially with the killer intro offer that Turbine is giving here. I'm not saying they definately will, that it will be a very big possibility.
  • HuriaHuria Member Posts: 311
    I know a lot of people who have just pre-ordered the game for the beta. Like poster above me said 10 bucks for 7 weeks is a great deal.
  • FifthredFifthred Member Posts: 367
    Originally posted by airhead

    NOTE: I love the game, i'm pumped, it's gonna be a blast, pre-ordered 3 copies...



    But one can't make too big of a deal about this pre-order thing. Think about it. For 10 bucks (in the US) you can play starting on Mar 30, and you have until May 24 to turn it into a live purchase (50 plus 10/mo, or 200 for lifetime). If you do not redeem your preorder, then you get to play LOTRO for 7 weeks for 10 bucks?! That's like the cost of a burger meal or a movie... worst case. I seem to remember some games having betas that would require a month membership at fileplanet to get the client or something, and that was like 7 bucks, and it would be for less than a month).



    10 bucks for 7 weeks of a major MMO? And it's middle earth, the grandfather of all modern sword-n-sorcery?  Someone would have to have seen it and just really hate it to not get in on that deal.



    So the pre-orders subs could take a big drop at the retail-conversion deadline (May-24). Especially with the killer intro offer that Turbine is giving here. I'm not saying they definately will, that it will be a very big possibility.
    how did you come up with that ? that makes no sense dude.

    1. pre-order OB march 30th  

    2. April 6th Official Open Beta

    3. April 24 release date (end of OB)

    4. After submitting your final key and choosing your pay plan is when you get to have a free month .



    Somewhere your logic has a flaw, it is missing me at the momment , but once the game goes live you will need a retail key, not the pre-order key...

    I like pie !

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by Huria

    I know a lot of people who have just pre-ordered the game for the beta. Like poster above me said 10 bucks for 7 weeks is a great deal.

    Public open beta begins Apr 06 and lasts till the 24th so that is a 18 day completly free trial, you are not even going to need a Fileplanet sub from what the article read. Pre orders get in on the 30th which is a week earlier . I am not sure where you got the 7 weeks from, but as you said it is a good deal.



    I miss DAoC

  • TautologyTautology Member Posts: 188

    I congratulate turbine for a first step to a success with the amount of pre orders they have at the moment. Especially after they have had a rather stoney path (AC2 Flop, DDO low success). But they have learned from their mistake and have developed a polished easy-to-go game for the mass market.  Pre - orders are a first indicator for the general acceptance of the game, though a little imprecice.  My guild and I have cancelled our pre-orders (10). 

     

  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Originally posted by Fifthred

    Originally posted by airhead

    NOTE: I love the game, i'm pumped, it's gonna be a blast, pre-ordered 3 copies...



    But one can't make too big of a deal about this pre-order thing. Think about it. For 10 bucks (in the US) you can play starting on Mar 30, and you have until May 24 to turn it into a live purchase (50 plus 10/mo, or 200 for lifetime). If you do not redeem your preorder, then you get to play LOTRO for 7 weeks for 10 bucks?! That's like the cost of a burger meal or a movie... worst case. I seem to remember some games having betas that would require a month membership at fileplanet to get the client or something, and that was like 7 bucks, and it would be for less than a month).



    10 bucks for 7 weeks of a major MMO? And it's middle earth, the grandfather of all modern sword-n-sorcery?  Someone would have to have seen it and just really hate it to not get in on that deal.



    So the pre-orders subs could take a big drop at the retail-conversion deadline (May-24). Especially with the killer intro offer that Turbine is giving here. I'm not saying they definately will, that it will be a very big possibility.
    how did you come up with that ? that makes no sense dude.

    1. pre-order OB march 30th  

    2. April 6th Official Open Beta

    3. April 24 release date (end of OB)

    4. After submitting your final key and choosing your pay plan is when you get to have a free month .



    Somewhere your logic has a flaw, it is missing me at the momment , but once the game goes live you will need a retail key, not the pre-order key...

    Everything you said is correct. But you have until MAY 24 to convert the pre-order to a release. In other words, you have until MAY 24 to take the pre-order box back down bestbuy or gamestop, purchase the retail box, get the retail key, and upgrade your subscription to retail.



    So Mar 30 to May 24 is 7 weeks. If you choose not to upgrade the pre-order, then you get 7 weeks of MMO for 10 bucks.



    Your last statement is not entirely correct. Once the game goes live (apr-24) you CAN convert to retail. You actually have until may-24 to make that purchase/change. You don't HAVE to do it immediately on release date. You could take your pre-order back down to bestbuy on May 23, get the retail for the extra 40 bucks and come home and convert it....    make sense now?
  • SalvatorisSalvatoris Member Posts: 1,360
    Originally posted by airhead

    Originally posted by Fifthred

    Originally posted by airhead

    NOTE: I love the game, i'm pumped, it's gonna be a blast, pre-ordered 3 copies...



    But one can't make too big of a deal about this pre-order thing. Think about it. For 10 bucks (in the US) you can play starting on Mar 30, and you have until May 24 to turn it into a live purchase (50 plus 10/mo, or 200 for lifetime). If you do not redeem your preorder, then you get to play LOTRO for 7 weeks for 10 bucks?! That's like the cost of a burger meal or a movie... worst case. I seem to remember some games having betas that would require a month membership at fileplanet to get the client or something, and that was like 7 bucks, and it would be for less than a month).



    10 bucks for 7 weeks of a major MMO? And it's middle earth, the grandfather of all modern sword-n-sorcery?  Someone would have to have seen it and just really hate it to not get in on that deal.



    So the pre-orders subs could take a big drop at the retail-conversion deadline (May-24). Especially with the killer intro offer that Turbine is giving here. I'm not saying they definately will, that it will be a very big possibility.
    how did you come up with that ? that makes no sense dude.

    1. pre-order OB march 30th  

    2. April 6th Official Open Beta

    3. April 24 release date (end of OB)

    4. After submitting your final key and choosing your pay plan is when you get to have a free month .



    Somewhere your logic has a flaw, it is missing me at the momment , but once the game goes live you will need a retail key, not the pre-order key...

    Everything you said is correct. But you have until MAY 24 to convert the pre-order to a release. In other words, you have until MAY 24 to take the pre-order box back down bestbuy or gamestop, purchase the retail box, get the retail key, and upgrade your subscription to retail.



    So Mar 30 to May 24 is 7 weeks. If you choose not to upgrade the pre-order, then you get 7 weeks of MMO for 10 bucks.



    Your last statement is not entirely correct. Once the game goes live (apr-24) you CAN convert to retail. You actually have until may-24 to make that purchase/change. You don't HAVE to do it immediately on release date. You could take your pre-order back down to bestbuy on May 23, get the retail for the extra 40 bucks and come home and convert it....    make sense now?

    You will NOT be able to play after APRIL 24th without purchasing the game. You have until May 24th to buy the game and still receive founder's monthly pricing.  There may be a small grace period given, for people who haven't received their preorder box from online orders by April 24th, but I wouldn't expect it to be more than a few days. other than that,  Free access to the game of any kind ends on April 24th.
  • MrSmoothieMrSmoothie Member Posts: 11
    The game is good, I hope they get the segregation issue worked out for the game. This game just needs PvP without monster play to make it really good I think. The official forum noobs keep trying to make the game stick to the lore. If they turn it into some lotr simulator then it won't have mass appeal and will only attract role players lol. I'll be playing this game until Pirates of The Burning Sea, comes out if they remove the segregation for servers.
  • dougmysticeydougmysticey Member Posts: 1,176
    Originally posted by airhead

    Originally posted by Fifthred

    Originally posted by airhead

    NOTE: I love the game, i'm pumped, it's gonna be a blast, pre-ordered 3 copies...



    But one can't make too big of a deal about this pre-order thing. Think about it. For 10 bucks (in the US) you can play starting on Mar 30, and you have until May 24 to turn it into a live purchase (50 plus 10/mo, or 200 for lifetime). If you do not redeem your preorder, then you get to play LOTRO for 7 weeks for 10 bucks?! That's like the cost of a burger meal or a movie... worst case. I seem to remember some games having betas that would require a month membership at fileplanet to get the client or something, and that was like 7 bucks, and it would be for less than a month).



    10 bucks for 7 weeks of a major MMO? And it's middle earth, the grandfather of all modern sword-n-sorcery?  Someone would have to have seen it and just really hate it to not get in on that deal.



    So the pre-orders subs could take a big drop at the retail-conversion deadline (May-24). Especially with the killer intro offer that Turbine is giving here. I'm not saying they definately will, that it will be a very big possibility.
    how did you come up with that ? that makes no sense dude.

    1. pre-order OB march 30th  

    2. April 6th Official Open Beta

    3. April 24 release date (end of OB)

    4. After submitting your final key and choosing your pay plan is when you get to have a free month .



    Somewhere your logic has a flaw, it is missing me at the momment , but once the game goes live you will need a retail key, not the pre-order key...

    Everything you said is correct. But you have until MAY 24 to convert the pre-order to a release. In other words, you have until MAY 24 to take the pre-order box back down bestbuy or gamestop, purchase the retail box, get the retail key, and upgrade your subscription to retail.



    So Mar 30 to May 24 is 7 weeks. If you choose not to upgrade the pre-order, then you get 7 weeks of MMO for 10 bucks.



    Your last statement is not entirely correct. Once the game goes live (apr-24) you CAN convert to retail. You actually have until may-24 to make that purchase/change. You don't HAVE to do it immediately on release date. You could take your pre-order back down to bestbuy on May 23, get the retail for the extra 40 bucks and come home and convert it....    make sense now?

     

    Actually, I ordered on line. I suppose I could cancel my order but they have my CC number and will charge it as soon as it ships. Cancelling with Gamestop/ EB games is a pain too so if you pre-ordered there you are likely to stick around for your free month of retail and pay for the DVD/ CD.

    Still, 600k pre-orders is solid. I just hope they have the server capacity to handle that load in the opening week. I would hate for the launch of such a polished and stable product to be marred by overloading the servers.

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  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Originally posted by Salvatoris

    Originally posted by airhead

    Originally posted by Fifthred

    Originally posted by airhead

    NOTE: I love the game, i'm pumped, it's gonna be a blast, pre-ordered 3 copies...



    But one can't make too big of a deal about this pre-order thing. Think about it. For 10 bucks (in the US) you can play starting on Mar 30, and you have until May 24 to turn it into a live purchase (50 plus 10/mo, or 200 for lifetime). If you do not redeem your preorder, then you get to play LOTRO for 7 weeks for 10 bucks?! That's like the cost of a burger meal or a movie... worst case. I seem to remember some games having betas that would require a month membership at fileplanet to get the client or something, and that was like 7 bucks, and it would be for less than a month).



    10 bucks for 7 weeks of a major MMO? And it's middle earth, the grandfather of all modern sword-n-sorcery?  Someone would have to have seen it and just really hate it to not get in on that deal.



    So the pre-orders subs could take a big drop at the retail-conversion deadline (May-24). Especially with the killer intro offer that Turbine is giving here. I'm not saying they definately will, that it will be a very big possibility.
    how did you come up with that ? that makes no sense dude.

    1. pre-order OB march 30th  

    2. April 6th Official Open Beta

    3. April 24 release date (end of OB)

    4. After submitting your final key and choosing your pay plan is when you get to have a free month .



    Somewhere your logic has a flaw, it is missing me at the momment , but once the game goes live you will need a retail key, not the pre-order key...

    Everything you said is correct. But you have until MAY 24 to convert the pre-order to a release. In other words, you have until MAY 24 to take the pre-order box back down bestbuy or gamestop, purchase the retail box, get the retail key, and upgrade your subscription to retail.



    So Mar 30 to May 24 is 7 weeks. If you choose not to upgrade the pre-order, then you get 7 weeks of MMO for 10 bucks.



    Your last statement is not entirely correct. Once the game goes live (apr-24) you CAN convert to retail. You actually have until may-24 to make that purchase/change. You don't HAVE to do it immediately on release date. You could take your pre-order back down to bestbuy on May 23, get the retail for the extra 40 bucks and come home and convert it....    make sense now?

    You will NOT be able to play after APRIL 24th without purchasing the game. You have until May 24th to buy the game and still receive founder's monthly pricing.  There may be a small grace period given, for people who haven't received their preorder box from online orders by April 24th, but I wouldn't expect it to be more than a few days. other than that,  Free access to the game of any kind ends on April 24th.

    Then I misread something somewhere.I just went back to lotro site and couldn't find an exact statement on the official pages either way. Pre-order keys can be applied up until May 24, but that's not exactly what I'm saying. I read my info in a forum, so will need to double check it.



    Of course it's absurd to say that come Apr-24, you MUST redeem your pre-order immediately, or you will not be able to log in. What if the store doesn't have it? What if you are out of town for a week or two? This 'grace period' you mention, as a term, I have not found on any of their pages.... only the 30 day after launch expiration of the pre-order.... which I'm interpreting to actually be your said 'grace period'. Got a link that it will only be a "few days" ?
  • SalvatorisSalvatoris Member Posts: 1,360
    Originally posted by airhead

    Originally posted by Salvatoris

    Originally posted by airhead

    Originally posted by Fifthred

    Originally posted by airhead

    NOTE: I love the game, i'm pumped, it's gonna be a blast, pre-ordered 3 copies...



    But one can't make too big of a deal about this pre-order thing. Think about it. For 10 bucks (in the US) you can play starting on Mar 30, and you have until May 24 to turn it into a live purchase (50 plus 10/mo, or 200 for lifetime). If you do not redeem your preorder, then you get to play LOTRO for 7 weeks for 10 bucks?! That's like the cost of a burger meal or a movie... worst case. I seem to remember some games having betas that would require a month membership at fileplanet to get the client or something, and that was like 7 bucks, and it would be for less than a month).



    10 bucks for 7 weeks of a major MMO? And it's middle earth, the grandfather of all modern sword-n-sorcery?  Someone would have to have seen it and just really hate it to not get in on that deal.



    So the pre-orders subs could take a big drop at the retail-conversion deadline (May-24). Especially with the killer intro offer that Turbine is giving here. I'm not saying they definately will, that it will be a very big possibility.
    how did you come up with that ? that makes no sense dude.

    1. pre-order OB march 30th  

    2. April 6th Official Open Beta

    3. April 24 release date (end of OB)

    4. After submitting your final key and choosing your pay plan is when you get to have a free month .



    Somewhere your logic has a flaw, it is missing me at the momment , but once the game goes live you will need a retail key, not the pre-order key...

    Everything you said is correct. But you have until MAY 24 to convert the pre-order to a release. In other words, you have until MAY 24 to take the pre-order box back down bestbuy or gamestop, purchase the retail box, get the retail key, and upgrade your subscription to retail.



    So Mar 30 to May 24 is 7 weeks. If you choose not to upgrade the pre-order, then you get 7 weeks of MMO for 10 bucks.



    Your last statement is not entirely correct. Once the game goes live (apr-24) you CAN convert to retail. You actually have until may-24 to make that purchase/change. You don't HAVE to do it immediately on release date. You could take your pre-order back down to bestbuy on May 23, get the retail for the extra 40 bucks and come home and convert it....    make sense now?

    You will NOT be able to play after APRIL 24th without purchasing the game. You have until May 24th to buy the game and still receive founder's monthly pricing.  There may be a small grace period given, for people who haven't received their preorder box from online orders by April 24th, but I wouldn't expect it to be more than a few days. other than that,  Free access to the game of any kind ends on April 24th.

    Then I misread something somewhere.I just went back to lotro site and couldn't find an exact statement on the official pages either way. Pre-order keys can be applied up until May 24, but that's not exactly what I'm saying. I read my info in a forum, so will need to double check it.



    Of course it's absurd to say that come Apr-24, you MUST redeem your pre-order immediately, or you will not be able to log in. What if the store doesn't have it? What if you are out of town for a week or two? This 'grace period' you mention, as a term, I have not found on any of their pages.... only the 30 day after launch expiration of the pre-order.... which I'm interpreting to actually be your said 'grace period'. Got a link that it will only be a "few days" ?

    The grace period for entering your retail key after the 24th has been discussed on the beta forums and got dev responses. Try a search there.. the forums are still up for the moment.
  • airheadairhead Member UncommonPosts: 718
    Originally posted by Salvatoris

    Originally posted by airhead

    Originally posted by Salvatoris

    Originally posted by airhead

    Originally posted by Fifthred

    Originally posted by airhead

    NOTE: I love the game, i'm pumped, it's gonna be a blast, pre-ordered 3 copies...



    But one can't make too big of a deal about this pre-order thing. Think about it. For 10 bucks (in the US) you can play starting on Mar 30, and you have until May 24 to turn it into a live purchase (50 plus 10/mo, or 200 for lifetime). If you do not redeem your preorder, then you get to play LOTRO for 7 weeks for 10 bucks?! That's like the cost of a burger meal or a movie... worst case. I seem to remember some games having betas that would require a month membership at fileplanet to get the client or something, and that was like 7 bucks, and it would be for less than a month).



    10 bucks for 7 weeks of a major MMO? And it's middle earth, the grandfather of all modern sword-n-sorcery?  Someone would have to have seen it and just really hate it to not get in on that deal.



    So the pre-orders subs could take a big drop at the retail-conversion deadline (May-24). Especially with the killer intro offer that Turbine is giving here. I'm not saying they definately will, that it will be a very big possibility.
    how did you come up with that ? that makes no sense dude.

    1. pre-order OB march 30th  

    2. April 6th Official Open Beta

    3. April 24 release date (end of OB)

    4. After submitting your final key and choosing your pay plan is when you get to have a free month .



    Somewhere your logic has a flaw, it is missing me at the momment , but once the game goes live you will need a retail key, not the pre-order key...

    Everything you said is correct. But you have until MAY 24 to convert the pre-order to a release. In other words, you have until MAY 24 to take the pre-order box back down bestbuy or gamestop, purchase the retail box, get the retail key, and upgrade your subscription to retail.



    So Mar 30 to May 24 is 7 weeks. If you choose not to upgrade the pre-order, then you get 7 weeks of MMO for 10 bucks.



    Your last statement is not entirely correct. Once the game goes live (apr-24) you CAN convert to retail. You actually have until may-24 to make that purchase/change. You don't HAVE to do it immediately on release date. You could take your pre-order back down to bestbuy on May 23, get the retail for the extra 40 bucks and come home and convert it....    make sense now?

    You will NOT be able to play after APRIL 24th without purchasing the game. You have until May 24th to buy the game and still receive founder's monthly pricing.  There may be a small grace period given, for people who haven't received their preorder box from online orders by April 24th, but I wouldn't expect it to be more than a few days. other than that,  Free access to the game of any kind ends on April 24th.

    Then I misread something somewhere.I just went back to lotro site and couldn't find an exact statement on the official pages either way. Pre-order keys can be applied up until May 24, but that's not exactly what I'm saying. I read my info in a forum, so will need to double check it.



    Of course it's absurd to say that come Apr-24, you MUST redeem your pre-order immediately, or you will not be able to log in. What if the store doesn't have it? What if you are out of town for a week or two? This 'grace period' you mention, as a term, I have not found on any of their pages.... only the 30 day after launch expiration of the pre-order.... which I'm interpreting to actually be your said 'grace period'. Got a link that it will only be a "few days" ?

    The grace period for entering your retail key after the 24th has been discussed on the beta forums and got dev responses. Try a search there.. the forums are still up for the moment.

    1. Do not have access to beta forums. Thanks for the link?

    2. Other posts I'm seeing say there has been no official statement on length of grace-period.

    3. It all comes down to the interpretation of a single word on the fine-print of a lotro page...



    the wording is like this: "You may continue to apply your Pre-order product key for up to 30 days post-launch".



    meaning-1: Does the word 'apply' mean, "use", i.e. log in to the game?

    meaning-2: Does the word 'apply' mean, 'enter', i.e. enter on myaccount.turbine.com and create a subscription?



    Many posts are interpreting the word with meaning-1, you are interpretating it as meaning-2. I'm trying to find out from them now, will let you (and this board) know when I find out something more 'official'.
  • SalvatorisSalvatoris Member Posts: 1,360

    Thereare several posts on the beta forums about the transition process.  I'll see what info I can find a grace period in a bit... what I can find plenty of are dev posts saying that preorder access ends when open beta ends.



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    Re: Do you have to buy the retail version?




    If you Pre-ordered online for full price then you should expect to receive a box after launch from the retailer. If you placed a smaller deposit ($5 or $10) at a local shop, then you will need to return to that shop to get the final release.



    You can continue to patch up the client software you have now, but your access to the game will end after Open Beta unless you apply a retail key.

  • jor8888jor8888 Member Posts: 378
    Originally posted by IAMTHEGAME

    Originally posted by Arkane11

    Originally posted by Gangster-Man

    sweet, 600k more retards that will stay out of the real games.
    Real games such as? Also, people can play more than one game. Somebody is a retard just because they choose to play LOTRO?

    Real Game Such As Age of Conan.










    and what make AoC the real game?  all u heard so far are just rumors nothing real u dont even know how the game is like but thats the real game?  keep dreaming atleast I will be playing Lotr the real game that is playable already.  Dont forget AoC and War might just be another Vanguard but I hope not.

     

     

  • SalvatorisSalvatoris Member Posts: 1,360
    I have high hopes for AoC.  The combat looks fun and it building looks cool.  I am not real sure how deep an experience we will get from an xbox 360 MMO, but I guess there is still a chance it won't suck.
  • QuinguQuingu Member Posts: 400
    lets hope turbine will open  50+ servers, or this will be a mess.
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