I bet you know revelations... Every generation thinks the things that happen in their time is the pinnacle ofthe bad stuff that can happen. That their time is the most important time ever and that what their generation does determins whether or not mankind continues.
Please take a step back, look at history and relax.
I bet you know revelations... Every generation thinks the things that happen in their time is the pinnacle ofthe bad stuff that can happen. That their time is the most important time ever and that what their generation does determins whether or not mankind continues.
Please take a step back, look at history and relax. Well twice in the last 100 years the world has had what we call "World wars" and I think those generations actually did fight supreme battles that changed the very way we live and precieve the planet. At the time of WW2 I think its safe to say the world balanced on a deadly line and we were lucky to have beaten the axis powers and that was a pinnacle momment.
With the weopons we have today its even scarier if major war breaks out and the way tensions are brewing I think its inevitable.
I bet you know revelations... Every generation thinks the things that happen in their time is the pinnacle ofthe bad stuff that can happen. That their time is the most important time ever and that what their generation does determins whether or not mankind continues.
Please take a step back, look at history and relax.Well twice in the last 100 years the world has had what we call "World wars" and I think those generations actually did fight supreme battles that changed the very way we live and precieve the planet. At the time of WW2 I think its safe to say the world balanced on a deadly line and we were lucky to have beaten the axis powers and that was a pinnacle momment.
With the weopons we have today its even scarier if major war breaks out and the way tensions are brewing I think its inevitable.
I can't believe I'm doing this but....QFT
Comparing armageddon scares of the middle ages to armageddon scares of today is laughable...show me a catapult capable of this kind of destruction.
The fission bomb detonated over Hiroshima had an explosive blast equivalent to 12,500 tons of TNT. A 1 megaton hydrogen bomb, hypothetically detonated on the earth's surface, has about 80 times the blast power of that 1945 explosion.
Radius of destructive circle: 1.7 miles
12 pounds per square inch
At the center lies a crater 200 feet deep and 1000 feet in diameter. The rim of this crater is 1,000 feet wide and is composed of highly radioactive soil and debris. Nothing recognizable remains within about 3,200 feet (0.6 miles) from the center, except, perhaps, the remains of some buildings' foundations. At 1.7 miles, only some of the strongest buildings -- those made of reinforced, poured concrete -- are still standing. Ninety-eight percent of the population in this area are dead.
Radius: 2.7 miles
5 psi
Virtually everything is destroyed between the 12 and 5 psi rings. The walls of typical multi-story buildings, including apartment buildings, have been completely blown out. The bare, structural skeletons of more and more buildings rise above the debris as you approach the 5 psi ring. Single-family residences within this this area have been completely blown away -- only their foundations remain. Fifty percent of the population between the 12 and 5 psi rings are dead. Forty percent are injured.
Radius: 4.7 miles
2 psi
Any single-family residences that have not been completely destroyed are heavily damaged. The windows of office buildings have been blown away, as have some of their walls. The contents of these buildings' upper floors, including the people who were working there, are scattered on the street. A substantial amount of debris clutters the entire area. Five percent of the population between the 5 and 2 psi rings are dead. Forty-five percent are injured.
Radius: 7.4 miles
1 psi
Residences are moderately damaged. Commercial buildings have sustained minimal damage. Twenty-five percent of the population between the 2 and 1 psi rings have been injured, mainly by flying glass and debris. Many others have been injured from thermal radiation -- the heat generated by the blast. The remaining seventy-five percent are unhurt.
NOTE: This information has been drawn mainly from "The Effects of Nuclear War" (Washington: Office of Technology Assessment, Congress of the United States, 1979). The zones of destruction described on this page are broad generalizations and do not take into account factors such as weather and geography of the target.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Well, I dont think any wars in the Middle East have the capability to wipe out all of mankind. None of the nations there have sufficient nuclear power to wipe out the entire population of Earth, so we'd need to do it all on our own (i.e. launch our entire nuclear arsenal for really no reason)... and if you read a thermonuclear scenario (the government used to calculate the loss of life in the event of a nuclear war with Russia) a good portion of humanity would survive simply because we wouldnt need to use too many nukes to wipe out our enemies. Crazy countries like Iran dont possess the ability to wipe out mankind. Maybe a city but not mankind.
And those countries with enough nuclear power to wipe out mankind... well, we all have a sense of self preservation and no one really wants to die, so they'll do all they can to well... not die!
There are bigger threats to the survival of mankind... namely climate change. Whether you think it is man made or not, climate change won't be good for us. Also, the impending alien invasion from the fringes of the solar system is probably not going to end well...
Iran knows the US military is tied down in Iraq now so it probably has emboldened them somewhat though I'm sure if serious confrontation broke out and given pressure from US population all troops in Iraq suddenly swarm Iran. Make a whole mess of the region err bigger mess.
Although I think Israel will make the first move against Iran. North Korea, well I think Kim Jong just wants to keep his power. Leave him in charge and he won't do anything stupid as he likes being in control of his country.
Also, I thought Iran's president was more of a public figure and the real power was the holy men or council or something who made the decisions behind the scenes. Though Iran's President is a little bit of a loose cannon. How does leadership really work in Iran? I can't remember
I bet you know revelations... Every generation thinks the things that happen in their time is the pinnacle ofthe bad stuff that can happen. That their time is the most important time ever and that what their generation does determins whether or not mankind continues.
Please take a step back, look at history and relax.Well twice in the last 100 years the world has had what we call "World wars" and I think those generations actually did fight supreme battles that changed the very way we live and precieve the planet. At the time of WW2 I think its safe to say the world balanced on a deadly line and we were lucky to have beaten the axis powers and that was a pinnacle momment.
With the weopons we have today its even scarier if major war breaks out and the way tensions are brewing I think its inevitable.
I can't believe I'm doing this but....QFT
Comparing armageddon scares of the middle ages to armageddon scares of today is laughable...show me a catapult capable of this kind of destruction.
The fission bomb detonated over Hiroshima had an explosive blast equivalent to 12,500 tons of TNT. A 1 megaton hydrogen bomb, hypothetically detonated on the earth's surface, has about 80 times the blast power of that 1945 explosion.
Radius of destructive circle: 1.7 miles
12 pounds per square inch
At the center lies a crater 200 feet deep and 1000 feet in diameter. The rim of this crater is 1,000 feet wide and is composed of highly radioactive soil and debris. Nothing recognizable remains within about 3,200 feet (0.6 miles) from the center, except, perhaps, the remains of some buildings' foundations. At 1.7 miles, only some of the strongest buildings -- those made of reinforced, poured concrete -- are still standing. Ninety-eight percent of the population in this area are dead.
Radius: 2.7 miles
5 psi
Virtually everything is destroyed between the 12 and 5 psi rings. The walls of typical multi-story buildings, including apartment buildings, have been completely blown out. The bare, structural skeletons of more and more buildings rise above the debris as you approach the 5 psi ring. Single-family residences within this this area have been completely blown away -- only their foundations remain. Fifty percent of the population between the 12 and 5 psi rings are dead. Forty percent are injured.
Radius: 4.7 miles
2 psi
Any single-family residences that have not been completely destroyed are heavily damaged. The windows of office buildings have been blown away, as have some of their walls. The contents of these buildings' upper floors, including the people who were working there, are scattered on the street. A substantial amount of debris clutters the entire area. Five percent of the population between the 5 and 2 psi rings are dead. Forty-five percent are injured.
Radius: 7.4 miles
1 psi
Residences are moderately damaged. Commercial buildings have sustained minimal damage. Twenty-five percent of the population between the 2 and 1 psi rings have been injured, mainly by flying glass and debris. Many others have been injured from thermal radiation -- the heat generated by the blast. The remaining seventy-five percent are unhurt.
NOTE: This information has been drawn mainly from "The Effects of Nuclear War" (Washington: Office of Technology Assessment, Congress of the United States, 1979). The zones of destruction described on this page are broad generalizations and do not take into account factors such as weather and geography of the target.
There have been numerous wars in human history that had decimating effects. Hell, there have been disease outbreaks with those effects. Currently there are only three powers in the world (US, China and Russia) who are capable of MAD like destruction. None of them has any interests of using that power, as it would serve no goal. I hate it to break it to people... But the time of conventional warfare is over. Yep. You may cry now. Let's say hi to our good old friend "economical onslaught".
Iran knows the US military is tied down in Iraq now so it probably has emboldened them somewhat though I'm sure if serious confrontation broke out and given pressure from US population all troops in Iraq suddenly swarm Iran. Make a whole mess of the region err bigger mess. Although I think Israel will make the first move against Iran. North Korea, well I think Kim Jong just wants to keep his power. Leave him in charge and he won't do anything stupid as he likes being in control of his country. Also, I thought Iran's president was more of a public figure and the real power was the holy men or council or something who made the decisions behind the scenes. Though Iran's President is a little bit of a loose cannon. How does leadership really work in Iran? I can't remember
I'm no Iranian goverment scholar but I think it works like this:
1) People elect clerics to a council
2) The council appoints the Ayatollah Khomenei for life
3) The Ayatollah K. can choose who he wants to run for president
4) The people elect that president
It's a lot more complicated than that though because the President isn't a complete puppet.
I bet you know revelations... Every generation thinks the things that happen in their time is the pinnacle ofthe bad stuff that can happen. That their time is the most important time ever and that what their generation does determins whether or not mankind continues.
Please take a step back, look at history and relax.Well twice in the last 100 years the world has had what we call "World wars" and I think those generations actually did fight supreme battles that changed the very way we live and precieve the planet. At the time of WW2 I think its safe to say the world balanced on a deadly line and we were lucky to have beaten the axis powers and that was a pinnacle momment.
With the weopons we have today its even scarier if major war breaks out and the way tensions are brewing I think its inevitable.
I can't believe I'm doing this but....QFT
Comparing armageddon scares of the middle ages to armageddon scares of today is laughable...show me a catapult capable of this kind of destruction.
The fission bomb detonated over Hiroshima had an explosive blast equivalent to 12,500 tons of TNT. A 1 megaton hydrogen bomb, hypothetically detonated on the earth's surface, has about 80 times the blast power of that 1945 explosion.
Radius of destructive circle: 1.7 miles
12 pounds per square inch
At the center lies a crater 200 feet deep and 1000 feet in diameter. The rim of this crater is 1,000 feet wide and is composed of highly radioactive soil and debris. Nothing recognizable remains within about 3,200 feet (0.6 miles) from the center, except, perhaps, the remains of some buildings' foundations. At 1.7 miles, only some of the strongest buildings -- those made of reinforced, poured concrete -- are still standing. Ninety-eight percent of the population in this area are dead.
Radius: 2.7 miles
5 psi
Virtually everything is destroyed between the 12 and 5 psi rings. The walls of typical multi-story buildings, including apartment buildings, have been completely blown out. The bare, structural skeletons of more and more buildings rise above the debris as you approach the 5 psi ring. Single-family residences within this this area have been completely blown away -- only their foundations remain. Fifty percent of the population between the 12 and 5 psi rings are dead. Forty percent are injured.
Radius: 4.7 miles
2 psi
Any single-family residences that have not been completely destroyed are heavily damaged. The windows of office buildings have been blown away, as have some of their walls. The contents of these buildings' upper floors, including the people who were working there, are scattered on the street. A substantial amount of debris clutters the entire area. Five percent of the population between the 5 and 2 psi rings are dead. Forty-five percent are injured.
Radius: 7.4 miles
1 psi
Residences are moderately damaged. Commercial buildings have sustained minimal damage. Twenty-five percent of the population between the 2 and 1 psi rings have been injured, mainly by flying glass and debris. Many others have been injured from thermal radiation -- the heat generated by the blast. The remaining seventy-five percent are unhurt.
NOTE: This information has been drawn mainly from "The Effects of Nuclear War" (Washington: Office of Technology Assessment, Congress of the United States, 1979). The zones of destruction described on this page are broad generalizations and do not take into account factors such as weather and geography of the target.
There have been numerous wars in human history that had decimating effects. Hell, there have been disease outbreaks with those effects. Currently there are only three powers in the world (US, China and Russia) who are capable of MAD like destruction. None of them has any interests of using that power, as it would serve no goal. I hate it to break it to people... But the time of conventional warfare is over. Yep. You may cry now. Let's say hi to our good old friend "economical onslaught".
That's a good point. When Rome sacked Carthage and murdered nearly the entire population and burned the city to the ground, that was surely as destructive as a nuclear bomb.
And the fire raids on Tokyo and other major cities during WWII created far more casualties than Nagasaki and Hiroshima combined.
Nuclear weapons are fear-based weapons. But you're going to die no matter what, so why spend your life worrying about nuclear war? All wars are deadly, all wars are destructive whether it takes 1 bomb or 10,000.
Iran knows the US military is tied down in Iraq now so it probably has emboldened them somewhat though I'm sure if serious confrontation broke out and given pressure from US population all troops in Iraq suddenly swarm Iran. Make a whole mess of the region err bigger mess. Although I think Israel will make the first move against Iran. North Korea, well I think Kim Jong just wants to keep his power. Leave him in charge and he won't do anything stupid as he likes being in control of his country. Also, I thought Iran's president was more of a public figure and the real power was the holy men or council or something who made the decisions behind the scenes. Though Iran's President is a little bit of a loose cannon. How does leadership really work in Iran? I can't remember
I'm no Iranian goverment scholar but I think it works like this:
1) People elect clerics to a council
2) The council appoints the Ayatollah Khomenei for life
3) The Ayatollah K. can choose who he wants to run for president
4) The people elect that president
It's a lot more complicated than that though because the President isn't a complete puppet.Ah, the Ayatollah Khomenei, that was it. I wonder how much the council and Khomenei approve of Tehran and his wild statements.
The point was...the probability for an earth ending weapon was not present at that point in time...and it is now...regardless on your opinions of which countries are afraid to use them.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
They're certainly not afraid to use them. Oh no. But nukes are a bit of an overkill, don't ya think? What are the goals of nations these days? To provide the best possible climate for their companies. Try doing that in a nuclear wasteland.
Besides, world destructing weapons are far away. Mankind destructing weapons are available, but those have always been available.
And thanks for pointing out the destruction of Rome! That was indeed very ugly.
The thing about America is it was founded by War. War is apart of our history, and we can't escape it's grasps. We have Wared against every country on the face of the planet it seems , and karma is a besnatch. With that said, if America has to throw down some nukes, it will. We have done it 2 times in the past and we will will do it again. Provoking us into that kind of commitment of using that much force is something that will be the end of us all.
It is called a nuclear holocust for a reeason, cause every major super power has them .
If you read the book "Bible Code" it is very much coming true.
And it all leads back to one stupid day, September 11th , 2001 , Yes we had other terror attacks but once you cross the threshold , with massive murder with in m 10 minutes time, it only took 10 minutes to kill 1000's of people. Just blows me away , watching people jump from a building 70 stories up on live t.v. , turn the channel you say, it was paralyzing.
I would rather Have to go over to Iran and kicj the living , crap out of them. They may not be directly involved iin Sept. 11th, but they carry that same hatred , that caused that event to happen. I wll be darned if I ever see that hatred spill into my country again .
The thing about America is it was founded by War. By a revolution. Like just about every other nation on earth.
War is apart of our history, and we can't escape it's grasps. We have Wared against every country on the face of the planet it seems Great-Britain, China, Mexico, Servia, Italy, Japan, North-Vietnam, Iraq, North-Korea, Canada, Germany and that's about it and more importantly, most of those wars were wars outside of the US. Without too much damage. Tho the canadians did burn the White House.
, and karma is a besnatch. With that said, if America has to throw down some nukes, it will. Yea, like it did in the Cuba crisis... We have done it 2 times in the past and we will will do it again. Provoking us into that kind of commitment of using that much force is something that will be the end of us all. You could just... Not fire the nukes.
It is called a nuclear holocust for a reeason, cause every major super power has them .
If you read the book "Bible Code" it is very much coming true.
if you read the book "The Selfish Gene", that's very much true. It really shows those few percentages of DNA not in common with animals really don't make a shred of difference.
And it all leads back to one stupid day, September 11th , 2001 , Yes we had other terror attacks but once you cross the threshold , with massive murder with in m 10 minutes time, it only took 10 minutes to kill 1000's of people. Just blows me away , watching people jump from a building 70 stories up on live t.v. , turn the channel you say, it was paralyzing.
Yea, far more paralyzing than traffic fatalities or smoking fatalities...
I would rather Have to go over to Iran and kicj the living , crap out of them. Because Fox said so?
They may not be directly involved iin Sept. 11th, but they carry that same hatred , that caused that event to happen. Kinda like your hatred, isn't it? I wll be darned if I ever see that hatred spill into my country again . *cough* KKK *cough*
Madace...it's really kinda hard to take your credability seriously when you have to resort to calling someone a KKK member.
Also, just because Richard Dawkins says that our DNA isn't all that much different from animals doesn't make it true...tell me...what revelation about the future does Dawkins make? Does he make some new prediction about how the future of mankind will change? No, he doesn't...your comparison between the Bible and something written by a hateful atheist, is hardly valid.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Madace...it's really kinda hard to take your credability seriously when you have to resort to calling someone a KKK member. Also, just because Richard Dawkins says that our DNA isn't all that much different from animals doesn't make it true...tell me...what revelation about the future does Dawkins make? Does he make some new prediction about how the future of mankind will change? No, he doesn't...your comparison between the Bible and something written by a hateful atheist, is hardly valid.
1: I just mentioned the KKK. Didn't call him a KKK member.
2: Never even heard about Richard Dawkins before I heard you whin... I mean talking about him.
The Bible is written by a whole bunch of hateful people, so perhaps you're right.
Iran knows the US military is tied down in Iraq now This thing about the US military being stretched thin is nothing but a ruse...look at this chart.As you can see the US military has a couple million dudes, active and reserve, in it's ranks right now; add to that another 50,000 paramilitary units (Blackwater and the like), subtract the 140,000 troops already in the Persian Gulf theater, divide that by the fact that there ain't nuttin else going on in the world that requires all those other troops and you have..uh..a ruse!Personally, I think this is a PsyOp being mounted against the American sheeple to do three things...1) Prepare them for the upcoming draft, 2) As a justification to further loot the US treasury, and 3) to see if the hapless American sheeple will swallow yet another propaganda lie!
...so it probably has emboldened them [Iran] somewhat Iran is emboldenedby the fact that it has way more fighters than the US does...using the chart from above, scan down to Iran, then over to column that says Paramilitary...you see that? Ouch! Paramilitary units are usually ex-military guerilla fighters but they can also include S.W.A.T. teams and the like.
Toward the end of the Iraq-Iran war Iran was completely out of ordinance, no bullets, no artillery shells, no nothin', so the Grand Ayatollah Khomeini issued a call for martyrs, hundreds of thousands responded. Their task was simple: run head on straight into Iraqi machine gun fire...armed only with the Koran! The mission was to capture the Iraqi positions or run the Iraqi's out of ammunition...whichever came first. Over 160,000 men and boys were slaughtered (martyred) in these human wave attacks. I wonder how many Americans would answer such a call...
though I'm sure if serious confrontation broke out and given pressure from US population all troops in Iraq suddenly swarm Iran. Make a whole mess of the region err bigger mess. The US will rely heavily on it's air power...as always. There won't be any US troops swarming into Iran...but there will be hundreds of thousands of Iranian martyrs swarming into Iraq though!
Although I think Israel will make the first move against Iran. Iran would decimate Israel in a war! Israel knows this, that's why it's using the US to do it's dirty work for it. On the other hand, Iran has already stated that no matter what happens it will hold the US responsible...Also, Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez has stated that no matter who attacks Iran it will cut off oil shipments to the US.
North Korea, well I think Kim Jong just wants to keep his power. Leave him in charge and he won't do anything stupid as he likes being in control of his country. The North Korean Military machine will move against the US forces in the south sometime after China has attacked Taiwan. Also, I thought Iran's president was more of a public figure and the real power was the holy men or council or something who made the decisions behind the scenes. This is true...and it should now be completely obvious to you that the US government knows this and is simply using the bellicose words of Ahmadinejad to drum-up support for it's upcoming war with Iran.
Though Iran's President is a little bit of a loose cannon. Ahmadinejad is a "loose canon" by design...and crazy like a fox! How does leadership really work in Iran? I can't remember EDIT:I'm not sure when Syria and Lebanon will come into play in all of this, I only know that they will. If anyone has any insight into this aspect of the impending conflagration in the middle east I'd love to hear it.
Madace...it's really kinda hard to take your credability seriously when you have to resort to calling someone a KKK member. Also, just because Richard Dawkins says that our DNA isn't all that much different from animals doesn't make it true...tell me...what revelation about the future does Dawkins make? Does he make some new prediction about how the future of mankind will change? No, he doesn't...your comparison between the Bible and something written by a hateful atheist, is hardly valid.
1: I just mentioned the KKK. Didn't call him a KKK member.
2: Never even heard about Richard Dawkins before I heard you whin... I mean talking about him.
The Bible is written by a whole bunch of hateful people, so perhaps you're right.
Then why are you talking about his book in your post?
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
To show that everyone can fence with biased sources.
So you take a book, claim that it does something, and then use it as your example, despite the fact that you've never read the book and didn't even have knowledge of its author until recently. Wow...if that's how you are going to debate, then I'm not sure why anyone would want to bother with you.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Madace...it's really kinda hard to take your credability seriously when you have to resort to calling someone a KKK member. Also, just because Richard Dawkins says that our DNA isn't all that much different from animals doesn't make it true...tell me...what revelation about the future does Dawkins make? Does he make some new prediction about how the future of mankind will change? No, he doesn't...your comparison between the Bible and something written by a hateful atheist, is hardly valid.
Ever take a biology class? DNA is made up of 4 nucleic acid bases... it doesnt matter what animal/plant/microbe you look at, DNA has those 4 bases. Now, some animals have more pairs of these bases, but that isnt very much of a difference considering that most DNA base pairs dont determine traits. Plus, we have similar numbers of base pairs with other animals. It is common knowledge that all living things have much of their DNA in common. Dont believe me, look it up in a bio text book.
I dont know Richard Dawkins very well, but to dismiss the fact that all living things have similar genetics because he said it shows how entirely ignorant of very basic biological concepts you are. This is something you should learn in a first semester biology class. Or do you also deny genetics as well?
Just because Dawkins said something doesnt make it false. Just because he breathes doesnt make breathing wrong, for instance. That is like arguing a point by saying "Invasions are bad because Hitler invaded other countries," yeah he invaded other countries, but he also breathed, ate, slept, wrote, created Volkswagon and turned around the Germany economy... so just because someone bad did something, it doesnt make everything they've ever done universally evil. Granted, Dawkins is a hateful sonuvabitch and there really is no way to prove that God doesnt exist as he seems to think, but that doesnt change the fact that he is a rather notable biologist and you can take his academic persuits seperate from his personal... failings.
I am amazed by your ignorance of basic biological concepts. I mean, denying evolution is unfortunately common enough in this country, so that could be understood, but denying genetics is ridiculous and it shows what most of us have been able to see all along; you are ignorant of these things that you disagree with.
To show that everyone can fence with biased sources.
So you take a book, claim that it does something, and then use it as your example, despite the fact that you've never read the book and didn't even have knowledge of its author until recently. Wow...if that's how you are going to debate, then I'm not sure why anyone would want to bother with you.
You yourself said numerous times Richard Dawkins was more than biased... Was it my mistake to trust your judgement?
I think this thread has gone way off the original topic and its funny how the science vs religion debate always seems to surface in these types of threads! Cant we just agree to disagree? One thing I always try to remember when discussing my beliefs is that they are mine and others may not share them and I am human capable or error so I never assume I am right and another person is wrong when we both know we don't have a clue when it comes to the "big picture".
Back on topic though, I see this situation lasting a long time with the British hostages and I also think war with Iran is going to happen but its really best if diplomacy prevails. Iran honestly wont fare well in a war imo, for one they only export oil and they need to import LOTS of refined gasoline to keep their nation going. They do have Russian made weapons and a decent naval presence in their waters but seriously if the Brits and Yanks decide to open a can of whoop ass then Iran will be a parking lot plain and simple. I sort of support action against Iran because of the things their president has said and if he does get a nuke I fear he would try to start major war by attacking Israel.
To show that everyone can fence with biased sources.
So you take a book, claim that it does something, and then use it as your example, despite the fact that you've never read the book and didn't even have knowledge of its author until recently. Wow...if that's how you are going to debate, then I'm not sure why anyone would want to bother with you.
You yourself said numerous times Richard Dawkins was more than biased... Was it my mistake to trust your judgement?It has nothing to do with whether or not the man is biased...you claimed that he, in his book, made some sort of claim for the future of humanity...and you havn't even read the book...you just pulled it out of your butt to prove a point, even though you don't actually know what you're talking about.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
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Please take a step back, look at history and relax. Well twice in the last 100 years the world has had what we call "World wars" and I think those generations actually did fight supreme battles that changed the very way we live and precieve the planet. At the time of WW2 I think its safe to say the world balanced on a deadly line and we were lucky to have beaten the axis powers and that was a pinnacle momment.
With the weopons we have today its even scarier if major war breaks out and the way tensions are brewing I think its inevitable.
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Please take a step back, look at history and relax.Well twice in the last 100 years the world has had what we call "World wars" and I think those generations actually did fight supreme battles that changed the very way we live and precieve the planet. At the time of WW2 I think its safe to say the world balanced on a deadly line and we were lucky to have beaten the axis powers and that was a pinnacle momment.
With the weopons we have today its even scarier if major war breaks out and the way tensions are brewing I think its inevitable.
I can't believe I'm doing this but....QFT
Comparing armageddon scares of the middle ages to armageddon scares of today is laughable...show me a catapult capable of this kind of destruction.
Radius of destructive circle: 1.7 miles
12 pounds per square inch
At the center lies a crater 200 feet deep and 1000 feet in diameter. The rim of this crater is 1,000 feet wide and is composed of highly radioactive soil and debris. Nothing recognizable remains within about 3,200 feet (0.6 miles) from the center, except, perhaps, the remains of some buildings' foundations. At 1.7 miles, only some of the strongest buildings -- those made of reinforced, poured concrete -- are still standing. Ninety-eight percent of the population in this area are dead.
Radius: 2.7 miles
5 psi
Virtually everything is destroyed between the 12 and 5 psi rings. The walls of typical multi-story buildings, including apartment buildings, have been completely blown out. The bare, structural skeletons of more and more buildings rise above the debris as you approach the 5 psi ring. Single-family residences within this this area have been completely blown away -- only their foundations remain. Fifty percent of the population between the 12 and 5 psi rings are dead. Forty percent are injured.
Radius: 4.7 miles
2 psi
Any single-family residences that have not been completely destroyed are heavily damaged. The windows of office buildings have been blown away, as have some of their walls. The contents of these buildings' upper floors, including the people who were working there, are scattered on the street. A substantial amount of debris clutters the entire area. Five percent of the population between the 5 and 2 psi rings are dead. Forty-five percent are injured.
Radius: 7.4 miles
1 psi
Residences are moderately damaged. Commercial buildings have sustained minimal damage. Twenty-five percent of the population between the 2 and 1 psi rings have been injured, mainly by flying glass and debris. Many others have been injured from thermal radiation -- the heat generated by the blast. The remaining seventy-five percent are unhurt.
NOTE: This information has been drawn mainly from "The Effects of Nuclear War" (Washington: Office of Technology Assessment, Congress of the United States, 1979). The zones of destruction described on this page are broad generalizations and do not take into account factors such as weather and geography of the target.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Well, I dont think any wars in the Middle East have the capability to wipe out all of mankind. None of the nations there have sufficient nuclear power to wipe out the entire population of Earth, so we'd need to do it all on our own (i.e. launch our entire nuclear arsenal for really no reason)... and if you read a thermonuclear scenario (the government used to calculate the loss of life in the event of a nuclear war with Russia) a good portion of humanity would survive simply because we wouldnt need to use too many nukes to wipe out our enemies. Crazy countries like Iran dont possess the ability to wipe out mankind. Maybe a city but not mankind.
And those countries with enough nuclear power to wipe out mankind... well, we all have a sense of self preservation and no one really wants to die, so they'll do all they can to well... not die!
There are bigger threats to the survival of mankind... namely climate change. Whether you think it is man made or not, climate change won't be good for us. Also, the impending alien invasion from the fringes of the solar system is probably not going to end well...
Iran knows the US military is tied down in Iraq now so it probably has emboldened them somewhat though I'm sure if serious confrontation broke out and given pressure from US population all troops in Iraq suddenly swarm Iran. Make a whole mess of the region err bigger mess.
Although I think Israel will make the first move against Iran. North Korea, well I think Kim Jong just wants to keep his power. Leave him in charge and he won't do anything stupid as he likes being in control of his country.
Also, I thought Iran's president was more of a public figure and the real power was the holy men or council or something who made the decisions behind the scenes. Though Iran's President is a little bit of a loose cannon. How does leadership really work in Iran? I can't remember
Please take a step back, look at history and relax.Well twice in the last 100 years the world has had what we call "World wars" and I think those generations actually did fight supreme battles that changed the very way we live and precieve the planet. At the time of WW2 I think its safe to say the world balanced on a deadly line and we were lucky to have beaten the axis powers and that was a pinnacle momment.
With the weopons we have today its even scarier if major war breaks out and the way tensions are brewing I think its inevitable.
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Comparing armageddon scares of the middle ages to armageddon scares of today is laughable...show me a catapult capable of this kind of destruction.
The fission bomb detonated over Hiroshima had an explosive blast equivalent to 12,500 tons of TNT. A 1 megaton hydrogen bomb, hypothetically detonated on the earth's surface, has about 80 times the blast power of that 1945 explosion.
There have been numerous wars in human history that had decimating effects. Hell, there have been disease outbreaks with those effects. Currently there are only three powers in the world (US, China and Russia) who are capable of MAD like destruction. None of them has any interests of using that power, as it would serve no goal. I hate it to break it to people... But the time of conventional warfare is over. Yep. You may cry now. Let's say hi to our good old friend "economical onslaught".Radius of destructive circle: 1.7 miles
12 pounds per square inch
At the center lies a crater 200 feet deep and 1000 feet in diameter. The rim of this crater is 1,000 feet wide and is composed of highly radioactive soil and debris. Nothing recognizable remains within about 3,200 feet (0.6 miles) from the center, except, perhaps, the remains of some buildings' foundations. At 1.7 miles, only some of the strongest buildings -- those made of reinforced, poured concrete -- are still standing. Ninety-eight percent of the population in this area are dead.
Radius: 2.7 miles
5 psi
Virtually everything is destroyed between the 12 and 5 psi rings. The walls of typical multi-story buildings, including apartment buildings, have been completely blown out. The bare, structural skeletons of more and more buildings rise above the debris as you approach the 5 psi ring. Single-family residences within this this area have been completely blown away -- only their foundations remain. Fifty percent of the population between the 12 and 5 psi rings are dead. Forty percent are injured.
Radius: 4.7 miles
2 psi
Any single-family residences that have not been completely destroyed are heavily damaged. The windows of office buildings have been blown away, as have some of their walls. The contents of these buildings' upper floors, including the people who were working there, are scattered on the street. A substantial amount of debris clutters the entire area. Five percent of the population between the 5 and 2 psi rings are dead. Forty-five percent are injured.
Radius: 7.4 miles
1 psi
Residences are moderately damaged. Commercial buildings have sustained minimal damage. Twenty-five percent of the population between the 2 and 1 psi rings have been injured, mainly by flying glass and debris. Many others have been injured from thermal radiation -- the heat generated by the blast. The remaining seventy-five percent are unhurt.
NOTE: This information has been drawn mainly from "The Effects of Nuclear War" (Washington: Office of Technology Assessment, Congress of the United States, 1979). The zones of destruction described on this page are broad generalizations and do not take into account factors such as weather and geography of the target.
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1) People elect clerics to a council
2) The council appoints the Ayatollah Khomenei for life
3) The Ayatollah K. can choose who he wants to run for president
4) The people elect that president
It's a lot more complicated than that though because the President isn't a complete puppet.
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Please take a step back, look at history and relax.Well twice in the last 100 years the world has had what we call "World wars" and I think those generations actually did fight supreme battles that changed the very way we live and precieve the planet. At the time of WW2 I think its safe to say the world balanced on a deadly line and we were lucky to have beaten the axis powers and that was a pinnacle momment.
With the weopons we have today its even scarier if major war breaks out and the way tensions are brewing I think its inevitable.
I can't believe I'm doing this but....QFT
Comparing armageddon scares of the middle ages to armageddon scares of today is laughable...show me a catapult capable of this kind of destruction.
The fission bomb detonated over Hiroshima had an explosive blast equivalent to 12,500 tons of TNT. A 1 megaton hydrogen bomb, hypothetically detonated on the earth's surface, has about 80 times the blast power of that 1945 explosion.
There have been numerous wars in human history that had decimating effects. Hell, there have been disease outbreaks with those effects. Currently there are only three powers in the world (US, China and Russia) who are capable of MAD like destruction. None of them has any interests of using that power, as it would serve no goal. I hate it to break it to people... But the time of conventional warfare is over. Yep. You may cry now. Let's say hi to our good old friend "economical onslaught".Radius of destructive circle: 1.7 miles
12 pounds per square inch
At the center lies a crater 200 feet deep and 1000 feet in diameter. The rim of this crater is 1,000 feet wide and is composed of highly radioactive soil and debris. Nothing recognizable remains within about 3,200 feet (0.6 miles) from the center, except, perhaps, the remains of some buildings' foundations. At 1.7 miles, only some of the strongest buildings -- those made of reinforced, poured concrete -- are still standing. Ninety-eight percent of the population in this area are dead.
Radius: 2.7 miles
5 psi
Virtually everything is destroyed between the 12 and 5 psi rings. The walls of typical multi-story buildings, including apartment buildings, have been completely blown out. The bare, structural skeletons of more and more buildings rise above the debris as you approach the 5 psi ring. Single-family residences within this this area have been completely blown away -- only their foundations remain. Fifty percent of the population between the 12 and 5 psi rings are dead. Forty percent are injured.
Radius: 4.7 miles
2 psi
Any single-family residences that have not been completely destroyed are heavily damaged. The windows of office buildings have been blown away, as have some of their walls. The contents of these buildings' upper floors, including the people who were working there, are scattered on the street. A substantial amount of debris clutters the entire area. Five percent of the population between the 5 and 2 psi rings are dead. Forty-five percent are injured.
Radius: 7.4 miles
1 psi
Residences are moderately damaged. Commercial buildings have sustained minimal damage. Twenty-five percent of the population between the 2 and 1 psi rings have been injured, mainly by flying glass and debris. Many others have been injured from thermal radiation -- the heat generated by the blast. The remaining seventy-five percent are unhurt.
NOTE: This information has been drawn mainly from "The Effects of Nuclear War" (Washington: Office of Technology Assessment, Congress of the United States, 1979). The zones of destruction described on this page are broad generalizations and do not take into account factors such as weather and geography of the target.
That's a good point. When Rome sacked Carthage and murdered nearly the entire population and burned the city to the ground, that was surely as destructive as a nuclear bomb.
And the fire raids on Tokyo and other major cities during WWII created far more casualties than Nagasaki and Hiroshima combined.
Nuclear weapons are fear-based weapons. But you're going to die no matter what, so why spend your life worrying about nuclear war? All wars are deadly, all wars are destructive whether it takes 1 bomb or 10,000.
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1) People elect clerics to a council
2) The council appoints the Ayatollah Khomenei for life
3) The Ayatollah K. can choose who he wants to run for president
4) The people elect that president
It's a lot more complicated than that though because the President isn't a complete puppet.Ah, the Ayatollah Khomenei, that was it. I wonder how much the council and Khomenei approve of Tehran and his wild statements.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Besides, world destructing weapons are far away. Mankind destructing weapons are available, but those have always been available.
And thanks for pointing out the destruction of Rome! That was indeed very ugly.
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It is called a nuclear holocust for a reeason, cause every major super power has them .
If you read the book "Bible Code" it is very much coming true.
And it all leads back to one stupid day, September 11th , 2001 , Yes we had other terror attacks but once you cross the threshold , with massive murder with in m 10 minutes time, it only took 10 minutes to kill 1000's of people. Just blows me away , watching people jump from a building 70 stories up on live t.v. , turn the channel you say, it was paralyzing.
I would rather Have to go over to Iran and kicj the living , crap out of them. They may not be directly involved iin Sept. 11th, but they carry that same hatred , that caused that event to happen. I wll be darned if I ever see that hatred spill into my country again .
who me ?
Neuter 'em.
Nuke 'em.
Nap time.
My Three N strategy.
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Madace...it's really kinda hard to take your credability seriously when you have to resort to calling someone a KKK member.
Also, just because Richard Dawkins says that our DNA isn't all that much different from animals doesn't make it true...tell me...what revelation about the future does Dawkins make? Does he make some new prediction about how the future of mankind will change? No, he doesn't...your comparison between the Bible and something written by a hateful atheist, is hardly valid.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
2: Never even heard about Richard Dawkins before I heard you whin... I mean talking about him.
The Bible is written by a whole bunch of hateful people, so perhaps you're right.
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2: Never even heard about Richard Dawkins before I heard you whin... I mean talking about him.
The Bible is written by a whole bunch of hateful people, so perhaps you're right.
Then why are you talking about his book in your post?
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
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Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Ever take a biology class? DNA is made up of 4 nucleic acid bases... it doesnt matter what animal/plant/microbe you look at, DNA has those 4 bases. Now, some animals have more pairs of these bases, but that isnt very much of a difference considering that most DNA base pairs dont determine traits. Plus, we have similar numbers of base pairs with other animals. It is common knowledge that all living things have much of their DNA in common. Dont believe me, look it up in a bio text book.
I dont know Richard Dawkins very well, but to dismiss the fact that all living things have similar genetics because he said it shows how entirely ignorant of very basic biological concepts you are. This is something you should learn in a first semester biology class. Or do you also deny genetics as well?
Just because Dawkins said something doesnt make it false. Just because he breathes doesnt make breathing wrong, for instance. That is like arguing a point by saying "Invasions are bad because Hitler invaded other countries," yeah he invaded other countries, but he also breathed, ate, slept, wrote, created Volkswagon and turned around the Germany economy... so just because someone bad did something, it doesnt make everything they've ever done universally evil. Granted, Dawkins is a hateful sonuvabitch and there really is no way to prove that God doesnt exist as he seems to think, but that doesnt change the fact that he is a rather notable biologist and you can take his academic persuits seperate from his personal... failings.
I am amazed by your ignorance of basic biological concepts. I mean, denying evolution is unfortunately common enough in this country, so that could be understood, but denying genetics is ridiculous and it shows what most of us have been able to see all along; you are ignorant of these things that you disagree with.
You yourself said numerous times Richard Dawkins was more than biased... Was it my mistake to trust your judgement?
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Back on topic though, I see this situation lasting a long time with the British hostages and I also think war with Iran is going to happen but its really best if diplomacy prevails. Iran honestly wont fare well in a war imo, for one they only export oil and they need to import LOTS of refined gasoline to keep their nation going. They do have Russian made weapons and a decent naval presence in their waters but seriously if the Brits and Yanks decide to open a can of whoop ass then Iran will be a parking lot plain and simple. I sort of support action against Iran because of the things their president has said and if he does get a nuke I fear he would try to start major war by attacking Israel.
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You yourself said numerous times Richard Dawkins was more than biased... Was it my mistake to trust your judgement?It has nothing to do with whether or not the man is biased...you claimed that he, in his book, made some sort of claim for the future of humanity...and you havn't even read the book...you just pulled it out of your butt to prove a point, even though you don't actually know what you're talking about.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.