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Cartoon Graphics: A false look at wonderful art and design

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  • TanokTanok Member Posts: 23
    Originally posted by Novaseeker



    A lot of words, and I do respect your opinion, but the WoW BE is far more fetching and interesting to the eye than the LOTRO character is.  And I like LOTRO, don't get me wrong, but the WoW graphic is much more eye-catching, fetching and therefore pleasing to the eye.



    There is a difference between what is more pleasing to the end-user's eye, and what is more pleasing to the professional.  A professional has a very different eye, and if a game is designed mostly for profssional eyes, other games can take the more "populist" route of what is pleasing to the more "populist" eye.


    WoW is just more flashy and bright, that's all! And then of course, IT'S AN ELF! A hot one some would say. It has nothing to do with what you like more, it's what gets your attention.



    However, just like any hot girl, the more you look at her, the more bland and normal she looks. The same thing happens with WoW graphics. Impressive and simple at first, but later on it gets dull and too simple.
  • KnightblastKnightblast Member UncommonPosts: 1,787
    Originally posted by Tanok



    WoW is just more flashy and bright, that's all! And then of course, IT'S AN ELF! A hot one some would say. It has nothing to do with what you like more, it's what gets your attention.



    However, just like any hot girl, the more you look at her, the more bland and normal she looks. The same thing happens with WoW graphics. Impressive and simple at first, but later on it gets dull and too simple.
    It's about eye-candy and what is fetching for me.  For others it is about what is "realistic", whether it is appealing, fetching or not.  I go with fetching over unappealing but realistic 14 out of 7 days any week!   And by the way brightness is a part of being eye-candy and fetching.  :)
  • xAlrythxxAlrythx Member Posts: 585
    Originally posted by gillvane1



    I prefer the looks of EQII and Vanguard to that of WoW.



    WoW looks to much like a cartoon to me.  At first I disliked the WAR look as well, because it also looks somewhat cartoony, but it's grown on me. WAR is a little bit grittier, and more pleasing to the eye than the bright WOW graphics, at least IMO.



    "Cartoon" looking may or may not be accurate when describing WoW, but it's an easy way to describe why I, and many others, don't like WoW grapics. "Realistic" looking may or may not be an accurate description of VG, but it's an easy term that most people understand when comparing the look of different games.



    Basically, when you say "cartoony" you mean a game that looks like WoW, and when you say "realistic" you mean a game that looks like Vanguard. NOT that WOW actually looks like loony tunes, or that Vanguard actually looks like watching a made for TV movie.

    Like I said, graphics are a matter of preference.

    And the descriptions used on both games are not very accurate I agree, that was some of the point I was trying to make.

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  • xAlrythxxAlrythx Member Posts: 585
    Originally posted by Novaseeker

    Originally posted by cupertino





    For me from an eye candy POV.. Wow wins with VG being the worse, just no personality in the VG models, a blank stare and basic idle pose. its all subjective ofc.


    WoW wins because Blizzard's artists > everyone else's artists.  Plain and simple.  More style, more personality ... more art .. less geeky unprofessional computer artists and more real artists, istm.



    I agree completely. Look at the VG model. Her arms are stuck at an angle, she reminds me of a plastic doll in clothing stores, she looks like she was put there after she was created and then dressed (which is exactly what was done with her). But I don't want to feel like my characters were designed by a human and put there. I want to feel immersed in the fantasy, because these are fantasy games.

    The WoW model just looks great. She isn't standing in an up-tight pose, no one could do that for days on end. She looks relaxed, not much facial expression or detail, but her body shows she looks relaxed.

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  • xAlrythxxAlrythx Member Posts: 585
    Originally posted by Gammit100


    WOW is cartoony to me because of the bright colors, lack of detail in the anatomy (irises), lack of 3D work in the clothing, abundance of low-polygons (at least it looks that way) seen as straight liens.
    How do you get great electricity and internet in the desert?  Saying you live in a (huge) country with a desert, and therefore you know how it looks, is like saying you live in a country with weather, so you're an expert at how a category 4 hurricane looks.  Next time, skip the "I know because..." section.  Thanks to the internet, we're all howthedesertREALLYlooks experts.



    I don't look at my character's eyes more than I do my characters general appearance. If you do that, then that is your preference. Have you ever once thought to yourself that fantasy characters in games don't have irises? That the WoW universe was never meant to have irises? The game can have whatever it wants. 'Realistic' additions mean nothing when it comes to fantasy, at least to me.

    Of course this can go directly against my desert comments. I just wonder why they chose to make a realistic looking game, but not include a realistic looking desert, instead a darker, dank looking one.

    How exactly can you be an expert on how something looks? I have a dog and he looks like a dog of that breed. Any person of any age of any race will look at my dog and see the exact same colours and features I see. Art is a different matter entirely.

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  • NicoliNicoli Member Posts: 1,312
    Ignoring style, I would still call WoW as cartoony. The thing is, I think cartoony is a bad word to use, as its to generic. To say that WoW draws from the heavily exagerrated Anime style would be better. In the end that is something that you just can't deny. The weapons are completely out of proportion and  Armor in many cases looks like its spandex even if its full plate. While this is not a bad thing it is the style of the game.
  • LukainLukain Member UncommonPosts: 591
    Originally posted by xAlrythx


    I hear alot of people on these forums talk about mmorpgs and cartoon graphics.
    These statements are usually thrown at games like WoW and LotRO, even at WAR.
    I honestly fail to see how these game's graphics resemble a cartoon at all.
    In WoW's case. The graphics are based on the art of the game and resemble WC3 closely. They arn't chock full of polygons, but they are bright, inspiring, colourful and they look great on average computer systems.
    Not once did I ever think to myself that this game looks like a cartoon. What did come to mind was the fact that the game looked like a world of warcraft. It was very colourful, and very fantasy like.
    I then take a gaze upon the so-called realistic looking games such as VG and EQ2. What do I see?
    I will use VG as an example.
    I see alot of colours, washed out looking colours. I see plastic models that seem to gleam like they were dipped in too much polish. I see bland looking lands, deserts that are dark looking and uncolourful. Have you ever seen a desert in real life? The majority of my country is full of it (Australia). The sand is bright and warm, it's textures range from gold to yellow to a crisp brown. It looks amazing. Deserts are not supposed to look boring, dark, or anything in between. I find alot more things in these so-called realistic games unrealistic than I do in the 'cartoon looking' games.
    I am very aware graphics are a matter of preference.
    But when someone says to me my statements hold zero credit because I think VG looks no more realistic than WoW. I tend to think that particular person has their head in a place where it shouldn't be.
    Thank you for reading. Please post and tell me what you think about the subject.
    PS. This wasn't a hate thread, just a simple observation of my own eyes.
    Ok get the hell of these forums , how dare you come in here & make a post that is well thought out & true .. you should be ashamed to call yourself a mmorpg.com poster





    Good read .  especially the part  " In WoW's case. The graphics are based on the art of the game and resemble WC3 closely."
  • LukainLukain Member UncommonPosts: 591
    Originally posted by cupertino





    For me from an eye candy POV.. Wow wins with VG being the worse, just no personality in the VG models, a blank stare and basic idle pose. its all subjective ofc.
    Plus the WOW girl is the hottest , strange thing though the LOTRO girl remings me of Genna Davis the actress
  • cupertinocupertino Member Posts: 1,094
    Originally posted by Novaseeker

    Originally posted by cupertino





    For me from an eye candy POV.. Wow wins with VG being the worse, just no personality in the VG models, a blank stare and basic idle pose. its all subjective ofc.
    If we were to make these 3 screens into a posters to be put on the wall?

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  • xAlrythxxAlrythx Member Posts: 585

    That is a good way to compare the screenshots cupertino. I think you know my answer.

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  • xAlrythxxAlrythx Member Posts: 585
    Originally posted by Recant



    That blood elf isn't a bimbo.  Just look at her glowing eyes!  It's not just about the static model, but the animations too.  Vanguards animations have much less variety than WoW's, for example.  The poses in Vanguard are far less natural, and unrealistic than WoW's animations, and that's not subjective, it's just that the lower polygon count means you can animate it more expressively without needing as many resources.

    Very true, an excellent point.

    Originally posted by Telvannas



    So, very, very true.

    That is gold. Truly gold and so very true.

     

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