I forgot about FFXI sorry I missed that one its growing a large fan base as well and I still have to see the day that some one announces in FFXI open chat that there moving to WoW it just doesn't happen.
Let me just clarify something (Im sure you'd all agree): A good game is not a game you play for all eternity. This would be impossible. A good game is a game youve played for quite a while which youve enjoyed. You enjoyed yourself while you played it. Why do people claim that wow, after playing it for 1-2 years, is total and utter crap? Youre seriously telling me that you hated every second of it during the 1-2 years you played? Did some guy point a gun to your head and make you play WoW?
Seriously folks, playing a computer game for a couple of years means it is a good game. Now, I dont care about the top 10 list of MMO's, its way distrustfull. But come on......."WoW is crap. I play 2 years so I no!!11". Come on.......
Let me just clarify something (Im sure you'd all agree): A good game is not a game you play for all eternity. This would be impossible. A good game is a game youve played for quite a while which youve enjoyed. You enjoyed yourself while you played it. Why do people claim that wow, after playing it for 1-2 years, is total and utter crap? Youre seriously telling me that you hated every second of it during the 1-2 years you played? Did some guy point a gun to your head and make you play WoW?
Seriously folks, playing a computer game for a couple of years means it is a good game. Now, I dont care about the top 10 list of MMO's, its way distrustfull. But come on......."WoW is crap. I play 2 years so I no!!11". Come on.......
Yea i think people like that should just say........it was a good game for me but now i am tired of it.
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I don't find:
Lineage/Lineage II (Which Ever Was It), Guild Wars, Guild Wars Factions, Guild Wars Night Fall, Saga Of Ryzom, EVE OnLine, as "CRAP GAMES".
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WoW , what can I say~! 2 months after WoW opened their servers I was forced to switch after my historic Baning from SWG. Its has been a great game and managed better then any other MMO out there.
But Have you seen Turbines LOTRO? /Borat " Very Nice."
Well, although daoc has "only" 2500 people on at peak times, the RvR is busy and there's always a lot of action even if there's only 1000 people online.
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right now RIGHT NOW. EQ2 how the hell is EQ2 up there? The game was based off WoW after it was released, when it was releaseld it was a crappy version of EQ 1 sony patched up EQ2 to become a WOW like game. And dont say it didnt because it did. WoW gets no respect it deserves its a very fun game and though end game tends to lack WoW is still a blast. EQ2 armor all looks the same, clay models its horrible. How dare you if i wernt a gentlemen id slap you all in the face but this is not a threat cause iam a gentlemen and wont slap you all in the face.
As much as I hate SOE, you are completely wrong here.
EQ2 was not released to compete with WoW, it was released as a sequal to EQ1. WoW and EQ2 released around the same time, and are pretty different to each other. WoW can't be compared to EQ2, as it is based off the Warcraft series. They are both MMO's and share basic design concepts, similar controls, etc etc.
I don't know if you ever played EQ2... but your description is pretty inaccurate. I've played both... and as much as I hate SOE... I'd play EQ2 before I would play WoW.
right now RIGHT NOW. EQ2 how the hell is EQ2 up there? The game was based off WoW after it was released, when it was releaseld it was a crappy version of EQ 1 sony patched up EQ2 to become a WOW like game. And dont say it didnt because it did. WoW gets no respect it deserves its a very fun game and though end game tends to lack WoW is still a blast. EQ2 armor all looks the same, clay models its horrible.
How dare you if i wernt a gentlemen id slap you all in the face but this is not a threat cause iam a gentlemen and wont slap you all in the face.
I hate it when people continuously compare MMO's to WoW. WoW is a great game, i played it for 2 years, and it has some very nice features. The reason it has so many subscribers is that it is a simplified version of more complicated MMO's out there, therefore it caters to a much much broader audience. But mainstream is NOT equal to quality. Therefore MMO's as EQ2, DAoC, EVE, and GW really deserve those ratings more than WoW ever did. At least in my humble opinion.
WoW is not that good because the $15 a month fee! the game play isent even that good because when u get 2 lvl 60 u have 2 by BC to get 2 lvl 70 and after u get 2 lvl 70 u dont have anything 2 do xcept start over with a new char!
Instancing/Raiding for new items/gear, PvP'ing.
gg no re
thats all you can do at 70? hasnt changed much since i quit and max was 60
Thats all you can do in any MMO....everquest releases an expansion...you get more gear blah blah till the next one. DAOC releases an expansion you get more gear and pvp until the next expansion....so on and so on. That whats MMO's are. Doing dungeons for gear and pvping if its availible. It is ALWAYS more of the same when an expansion comes out. Nothing makes WoW different than that
Guild Wars does not. that is why it is in the #1 spot yes you can do pvp and yes you can do elite quests. but it;s NOT about the gear it's about getting skills. that is y it out ranks ur mmo. It is because it is ORIGINAL!!!
WoW shouldnt be in the list for the amount of subscribers, but because of what it has done for the genre.
Pardon me, it has done nothing for the genre, endgame is a boring grind, and the game is pretty much a ripoff of other games, the only flavor they added was a few BGs, and their three (like diablo) tier talent system.
Regardless it was a pretty decent game, but ya gotta admit, it really didn't bring much to the table. And worse, since everyone has came to try it out, their subscription numbers go up. Which makes every dev out there want to copy off them. Which is bad for us. And bad for the entire genre itself. Until developers understand this, this genre as a whole is heading to a bad place.
I just think its funny when pro-wow people (OMFGHAX aka leet kiddies) come in here and act like they know a thing or two about the "big" picture when in reality, they don't. Subscription numbers mean nothing, RO had a lot of subscriptions but the only real reason its standing its because it had such a nice community, i see the same thing with wow...
I'll make a prediction i am sure a lot of people would agree with. As soon as a developer breaks the mold and actually does something innovative with their game people will flock away from wow, easily.
just my two cents.
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WoW is the best game out period, and not just in the mmorpg genre, best game overall.
That said ive been playing off and on since release so im kinda bored of it yes... but its still the best game out period. I also agree the top5 games on this site are utter rubbish, other than guild wars.
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WoW shouldnt be in the list for the amount of subscribers, but because of what it has done for the genre.
Pardon me, it has done nothing for the genre, endgame is a boring grind, and the game is pretty much a ripoff of other games, the only flavor they added was a few BGs, and their three (like diablo) tier talent system.
Regardless it was a pretty decent game, but ya gotta admit, it really didn't bring much to the table. And worse, since everyone has came to try it out, their subscription numbers go up. Which makes every dev out there want to copy off them. Which is bad for us. And bad for the entire genre itself. Until developers understand this, this genre as a whole is heading to a bad place.
I just think its funny when pro-wow people (OMFGHAX aka leet kiddies) come in here and act like they know a thing or two about the "big" picture when in reality, they don't. Subscription numbers mean nothing, RO had a lot of subscriptions but the only real reason its standing its because it had such a nice community, i see the same thing with wow...
I'll make a prediction i am sure a lot of people would agree with. As soon as a developer breaks the mold and actually does something innovative with their game people will flock away from wow, easily.
just my two cents.
All that matters in any game is FUN.. Innovation is overrrated and often falls flat on its face. WoW brought fun to millions.. that makes it a top game.
People are always on about "new" and "original", I say BS. Mario Bro's was a fun game, Qbert rocked, Maniac Mansion was cool, and WoW can be a great time too.. that's all that matters IMO.
You people waiting on the next big amazing game that differs from all else and brings new crap to the table, get over it - we are just talking video games.
WoW is the best game out period, and not just in the mmorpg genre, best game overall.
That said ive been playing off and on since release so im kinda bored of it yes... but its still the best game out period. I also agree the top5 games on this site are utter rubbish, other than guild wars.
I got bored too. But it took me over 200 hours of gameplay.
I've been away for a while and am probably going to renemw just for kicks, the game is well laid out and runs smooth as silk. And I have good memories.
WoW is not that good because the $15 a month fee! the game play isent even that good because when u get 2 lvl 60 u have 2 by BC to get 2 lvl 70 and after u get 2 lvl 70 u dont have anything 2 do xcept start over with a new char!
Instancing/Raiding for new items/gear, PvP'ing.
gg no re
thats all you can do at 70? hasnt changed much since i quit and max was 60
Thats all you can do in any MMO....everquest releases an expansion...you get more gear blah blah till the next one. DAOC releases an expansion you get more gear and pvp until the next expansion....so on and so on. That whats MMO's are. Doing dungeons for gear and pvping if its availible. It is ALWAYS more of the same when an expansion comes out. Nothing makes WoW different than that
Guild Wars does not. that is why it is in the #1 spot yes you can do pvp and yes you can do elite quests. but it;s NOT about the gear it's about getting skills. that is y it out ranks ur mmo. It is because it is ORIGINAL!!!
...LOL, yeah GW has less to offer at endgame - very original. Played it myself, crap game, sorry that I don't agree with you but it really was a terrible bore.
I also agree the top5 games on this site are utter rubbish, other than guild wars.
Saying such nonense about DAOC proves you have either never played it or just don't know what you are talking about when it comes to MMORPG games.
But nothing like a good "Wow is the greatest" post to generate a good flamefest eh?
Ive played DAOC its rubbish, it was good before mythic screwed balance with their lame expansions. NF and TOA being the worst, actually all their expansion but SI were trash..even housing sucked.
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Let me just clarify something (Im sure you'd all agree): A good game is not a game you play for all eternity. This would be impossible. A good game is a game youve played for quite a while which youve enjoyed. You enjoyed yourself while you played it. Why do people claim that wow, after playing it for 1-2 years, is total and utter crap? Youre seriously telling me that you hated every second of it during the 1-2 years you played? Did some guy point a gun to your head and make you play WoW?
Seriously folks, playing a computer game for a couple of years means it is a good game. Now, I dont care about the top 10 list of MMO's, its way distrustfull. But come on......."WoW is crap. I play 2 years so I no!!11". Come on.......
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On Topic:
I don't find:
Lineage/Lineage II (Which Ever Was It), Guild Wars, Guild Wars Factions, Guild Wars Night Fall, Saga Of Ryzom, EVE OnLine, as "CRAP GAMES".
Currently Playing:
Classic Games: Luxor, Cool Pool 2, Chicken Invaders 2, And Hang-A-Roo 2.
OnLine Games: Dark Space OnLine.
Looking Forward For: The Sword Of The New World: Granado Espada OnLine.
Coming Soon: I'll Play Games If My RAM Is Not AnyMore 246MB.
WoW , what can I say~! 2 months after WoW opened their servers I was forced to switch after my historic Baning from SWG. Its has been a great game and managed better then any other MMO out there.
But Have you seen Turbines LOTRO? /Borat " Very Nice."
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This is just mmorpg.com if u go to xfire or another top 10 wow is at the top but gw an eq2 are very good games and deserve to be in the top 10
Well, although daoc has "only" 2500 people on at peak times, the RvR is busy and there's always a lot of action even if there's only 1000 people online.
"I actually cook my meat with nothing but my burning hatred for vegetables"
As much as I hate SOE, you are completely wrong here.
EQ2 was not released to compete with WoW, it was released as a sequal to EQ1. WoW and EQ2 released around the same time, and are pretty different to each other. WoW can't be compared to EQ2, as it is based off the Warcraft series. They are both MMO's and share basic design concepts, similar controls, etc etc.
I don't know if you ever played EQ2... but your description is pretty inaccurate. I've played both... and as much as I hate SOE... I'd play EQ2 before I would play WoW.
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I hate it when people continuously compare MMO's to WoW. WoW is a great game, i played it for 2 years, and it has some very nice features. The reason it has so many subscribers is that it is a simplified version of more complicated MMO's out there, therefore it caters to a much much broader audience. But mainstream is NOT equal to quality. Therefore MMO's as EQ2, DAoC, EVE, and GW really deserve those ratings more than WoW ever did. At least in my humble opinion.
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gg no re
thats all you can do at 70? hasnt changed much since i quit and max was 60
Thats all you can do in any MMO....everquest releases an expansion...you get more gear blah blah till the next one. DAOC releases an expansion you get more gear and pvp until the next expansion....so on and so on. That whats MMO's are. Doing dungeons for gear and pvping if its availible. It is ALWAYS more of the same when an expansion comes out. Nothing makes WoW different than that
Guild Wars does not. that is why it is in the #1 spot yes you can do pvp and yes you can do elite quests. but it;s NOT about the gear it's about getting skills. that is y it out ranks ur mmo. It is because it is ORIGINAL!!!
Regardless it was a pretty decent game, but ya gotta admit, it really didn't bring much to the table. And worse, since everyone has came to try it out, their subscription numbers go up. Which makes every dev out there want to copy off them. Which is bad for us. And bad for the entire genre itself. Until developers understand this, this genre as a whole is heading to a bad place.
I just think its funny when pro-wow people (OMFGHAX aka leet kiddies) come in here and act like they know a thing or two about the "big" picture when in reality, they don't. Subscription numbers mean nothing, RO had a lot of subscriptions but the only real reason its standing its because it had such a nice community, i see the same thing with wow...
I'll make a prediction i am sure a lot of people would agree with. As soon as a developer breaks the mold and actually does something innovative with their game people will flock away from wow, easily.
just my two cents.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
That said ive been playing off and on since release so im kinda bored of it yes... but its still the best game out period. I also agree the top5 games on this site are utter rubbish, other than guild wars.
But nothing like a good "Wow is the greatest" post to generate a good flamefest eh?
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Regardless it was a pretty decent game, but ya gotta admit, it really didn't bring much to the table. And worse, since everyone has came to try it out, their subscription numbers go up. Which makes every dev out there want to copy off them. Which is bad for us. And bad for the entire genre itself. Until developers understand this, this genre as a whole is heading to a bad place.
I just think its funny when pro-wow people (OMFGHAX aka leet kiddies) come in here and act like they know a thing or two about the "big" picture when in reality, they don't. Subscription numbers mean nothing, RO had a lot of subscriptions but the only real reason its standing its because it had such a nice community, i see the same thing with wow...
I'll make a prediction i am sure a lot of people would agree with. As soon as a developer breaks the mold and actually does something innovative with their game people will flock away from wow, easily.
just my two cents.
All that matters in any game is FUN.. Innovation is overrrated and often falls flat on its face. WoW brought fun to millions.. that makes it a top game.
People are always on about "new" and "original", I say BS. Mario Bro's was a fun game, Qbert rocked, Maniac Mansion was cool, and WoW can be a great time too.. that's all that matters IMO.
You people waiting on the next big amazing game that differs from all else and brings new crap to the table, get over it - we are just talking video games.
I got bored too. But it took me over 200 hours of gameplay.
I've been away for a while and am probably going to renemw just for kicks, the game is well laid out and runs smooth as silk. And I have good memories.
gg no re
thats all you can do at 70? hasnt changed much since i quit and max was 60
Thats all you can do in any MMO....everquest releases an expansion...you get more gear blah blah till the next one. DAOC releases an expansion you get more gear and pvp until the next expansion....so on and so on. That whats MMO's are. Doing dungeons for gear and pvping if its availible. It is ALWAYS more of the same when an expansion comes out. Nothing makes WoW different than that
Guild Wars does not. that is why it is in the #1 spot yes you can do pvp and yes you can do elite quests. but it;s NOT about the gear it's about getting skills. that is y it out ranks ur mmo. It is because it is ORIGINAL!!!
...LOL, yeah GW has less to offer at endgame - very original. Played it myself, crap game, sorry that I don't agree with you but it really was a terrible bore.
But nothing like a good "Wow is the greatest" post to generate a good flamefest eh?
Ive played DAOC its rubbish, it was good before mythic screwed balance with their lame expansions. NF and TOA being the worst, actually all their expansion but SI were trash..even housing sucked.
Nice try though. 3/10