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They are not recoding to avoid paying, they are recoding to bring back the bets part of the game. The people who want to play swgemu will play it. If swgemu was closed down tomorrow, those people would NEVER resub to an official server.
yep i know its illegal alright, as illegal to copywrite as you can get, "WHEN IT IS RELEASED" until then how do we know that its not just a massive scam, how do we know these guys are not talking out of their arse's? how do we know any of this? we dont, so until there is some proof i will not be for or against the EMU, but all my arguement is, is why are you guys kicking out so much steam about somthing that is by and large only rumor? and going off topic in the mean time? i want to know about games that are like pre-pub 9 SWG. not about IP law and weather somthing that is blatently illegal is badSend me the deed, pal. The only music I download is paid for.
And personally, I don't see what all the whining is about... SWG sucked pre or post NGE. It was a dissapointment to me as a hardcore Star Wars fan.
And yes... I say shut the project down unless it gets licensed. Then the team will have my support.
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dude its real, ive played the core1 and 3 servers. Its all there. www.swgemu.com check it out.
and dreneth, stop being so high and mighty and acting like you follow ever law ever. You download music, you watch youtube movies that shouldnt be there, and you'd play swgemu (if u were any kind of a real fan).
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I have no ties to SWG through any related company, association, or agreement. Hell, I won't play an SOE game if you paid me. I am an artist as well as a programmer, and Intellectual Property rights are important to people like me. So, when I see someone hacking themselves a copy of someone else's work, it pisses me off.
If you want to support illegal activity, that's your bag. I don't. It's as simple as that.
ok it was below the belt to call you a FACT employee, and i should make generalisations about someone i dont know, but u are acting a little overzealous for someone who actually suggested the EMU in the first place and then sparking this massive debate, so appoligies to youFirst of all Dreneth, who died and left you LEC's and SOE's watchdog. Second, i will sit here and debate you over this while i'm watching two hookers dance for me, and smoke a big fat one, as well as try and beat out the irs on taxes.
Dude, seriously, give it a rest, it's just a game, if some people have a chance to play a game that they loved again, and it's free or not, that's their buisness, so stop trying to be put on the list for sainthood.
I'm not trying to get on anyone's list, bucko. I am simply providing information regarding the illegality of SWGEmu, and debating you on your belief that it is ok to break the law, so long as you don't get caught.
And you are right... it is just a game... so why do you feel so entitled to it? If it is something as trivial as a video game, why are you so hell bent on breaking federal law to play it? It's too important for you to follow the law, but I should just let it go because it's only a game? lol
You're not debating this... you are admitting that it's illegal, and you don't care. That's not a debate, that's you showing your colors.
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I never realized till now how many stupid people there are in the world till I read this post.
LA can't stop anyone from screwing with the code.
SOE doesn't care unless the SWGemu makes any money off of it. Why? Cuz they know LA will do all the legal stuff for them once it goes live. LA and GL will rip them a new ass when the first person logs onto the game.
Think about it. Would you let someone hijack your IP? Oh hell NO!! But I would have to wait till I can actually have a case against them.
The ONLY way the SWGemu would be legal in any sense, would be if the community sued LA and SOE. Which could have been done. Too late now. If you ask sued? On what grounds? Go take a law course in college. I'm not going to sit here and try to explain it. I;m sure it would fall on deaf ears anyway.
It's ILLEGAL to use someone elses IP or copyprotected software without permission. Notice I said USE. Which is exactly what you will be doing with the SWGemu. Don't be stupid. If it was my IP, I would wait, then I would take my million dollar a day lawyers and use them to make an example of every person who logged into it. And to the enitre MMO community.
I know how this works. My father got sued for intellectual property. Luckly they just took it out on the developing company and shut them dont. Sued the owner, and left the programers with a swift kick in the ass and a warning.
I support the EMU 100% I hope they put Star Wars NGE out of buisness. Dreneth was most likely a part of the emu team or a member who got kicked out for some reason and is now bitter. Regardless of what you may think the project will Launch and it will be a sucess and I am willing to bet that it will have more subs than the NGE.
If you are so sure it is 100% illegal and you have talked to SOE about it which I call Bullshit on then call the Feds or your Local Law Enforcement and try to press charges against the Emu team.. How much you want to bet they laugh at you?
Is it that you have nothing better to do that you sat in this thread and argued over and over and over again? Get laid pal and step away from the keyboard.
Hold up, i will reply to what you just posted, got to pay these hookers first. Ok, i never said i would play it, but probably would, Second, it's people like you, who try and tell everyone else what is right and what is wrong. It's just a game, nothing more. IF people ant to play it, it's their right to do so. Your the only one in this discussion trying to be judge and jury.
I'm not trying to get on anyone's list, bucko. I am simply providing information regarding the illegality of SWGEmu, and debating you on your belief that it is ok to break the law, so long as you don't get caught.
And you are right... it is just a game... so why do you feel so entitled to it? If it is something as trivial as a video game, why are you so hell bent on breaking federal law to play it? It's too important for you to follow the law, but I should just let it go because it's only a game? lol
You're not debating this... you are admitting that it's illegal, and you don't care. That's not a debate, that's you showing your colors.
Look if you wanna say it sillegal, contact la or soe. But a lot of the people here are pre-cu fans. And always will be. There is no point in defending a company that took the best stuff from us and gave us generic crap. I spent m ymoney on the box, and i payed my monthly fees just to have the rug swept from under me.
NOW, even though what I said, your right, legally we are NOT entitled to it, BUT if someone has the time and wants to recreate the old game, why not? If this thing was any threat to soe or la, they would have put an end to it, whether they thought it was vapour-ware or not. And Lucas is VERY attentive to his creations, anything that even looks or sound remotely to hsi creation will be shutdown. There is obviously nothing here that they care about, so let the fans enjoy this and just lay off the whole "Lawyer" act.
Needless to say I have a lot more discussion in me about this, but I am just going to refrain form posting in this thread. Al argments you are making is "oh its illegal shut it down". Thats it. So I will just stop wasting any more words on this.
Peace
LMAO - No, I wasn't part of the team. hehehe
Have you seen the federal court ruling yet? I would suggest you backtrack for the link. Oh... and for those interested... here is the link to the FBI's cyber crimes division: http://www.cybercrime.gov
And, if you feel that you would like to report the SWGEmu, the link would be: http://www.cybercrime.gov/reporting.htm#ip
I would also recommend contacting SOE directly, and seeing for yourself that they are aware of the project and telling people to stay away from it.
If I were to get laid right now... I'd probably get fired. I am at work
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If someone started a space game "from scratch" and Jedi became "Dedi" and Wookie became "Cookie" and Tatooine became "Zatooine", I would bet that George Lucas would still be able to sue the heck outta them. Starbucks has successfully sued some companies who existed long before Starbucks ever did for having a similar name and selling coffee.
Re-creating the game "from the ground-up" or "from-scratch" won't mean anything.
MMORPGs are virtual skinner boxes.
http://www.nickyee.com/eqt/skinner.html
It's illegal, but moraly OK in my opinion. And YOU put the "moral fiber" in this debate.
From a moral point of view, its very different of the Battlenet case, because the obvious only meaning of the illegal servers was to allow multiplay (WC3 in particular) with illegal client copies, sparing the buying of a legal copy. It's clearly not the goal of this project, SWG client sales are already history.
I see this as a bunch of fans reviving the game they loved and was taken away from them. Official SWG is almost dead and burried, SOE will not loose much as a result.
But YOU are right, this is illegal, and even "more illegal" because there are 2 potential plaintiffs : SOE and Lucasart, as a licence seller, Lucasart has the conventional obligation to protect unlicended use of his material.
Anyway, Lucasart would probably sue real Star Wars fans aiming at reviving their favorite game, to protect SOE who paid Lucasart big money to trash the unique opportunity to create a wonderfull virtual Star Wars based universe. But I think SOE will shoot 1st.
This is not quite a moral ending in my opinion, but it's not like if a MMO was so important.
Perhaps some clarification is in order here...
1) I hate SOE. I have had my share of problems with them, and detest smedly with a passion.
2) I did not like SWG pre or post NGE. The game always sucked (in my opnion), which is a dissapointment as I love Star Wars.
3) My argument is not based on defending SOE or SWG or LA or any of that... it is based on defending the IP laws which protect me as well.
4) I take the "so what" attitude about breaking IP laws as troubling, as those laws protect the good games as well as the bad... and any other sort of protected media out there.
So if you want to argue that it's ok to break the law to play your favorite video game (how pathetic) than that is your bag. All I am doing is arguing the point of law regarding a project which should not exist if the people running it can't get it licensed.
[ edited to further clarify that my statement that SWG sucks is my opinion, as others do not agree ]
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If SWGemu does reach completion and 100,000 plus start playing it I would hope SoE would then open Classic servers because if they did people would move back to them since it would be servers run fairly.
I for one find the idea of servers run by some ones friends, is not apealing to me.
Any ways Core3 is far from completion and you Dreneth may not even be around in the mmo sceen 2 or 3 years from now.
If this project finishes I would be amazed, so stop crying Dreneth its a dream and a wish thats all.
Ajax
I'm not crying... trust me. lol
But thanks for playing.
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This topic should probably get locked like the other to avoid further discussion of the matter. Did you read the reason why the other thread was locked Runny?
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