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Ted Nugent's Thoughts on increased gun laws.
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Its sad to know people like that walk around. I personally like the idea of walking around on the streets without knowing that every person I meet can kill me in the blink of an eye.
You could be killed by a car in the blink of an eye. Do you want to ban cars?
Someone could break your neck in the blink of an eye. Should we ban hands?
Do you get the point? Everything is a weapon, anything is capable of being used to kill you, yet it is absurd to think of banning cars, knives, and hands. Why is it not absurd to think of banning guns?
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I shoot for the curve... anything above that is gravy.
Someone could kill you with a knife in the blink of an eye, do you want to ban knives?
You could be killed by a car in the blink of an eye. Do you want to ban cars?
Someone could break your neck in the blink of an eye. Should we ban hands?
Do you get the point? Everything is a weapon, anything is capable of being used to kill you, yet it is absurd to think of banning cars, knives, and hands. Why is it not absurd to think of banning guns?
Shooting is one of my greatest stress relievers (and I only shoot paper, ) Blowing off 30 rounds on full auto is a HOOT!! Testing your skill with a long shot gives you pride. What about a bow? Should we ban them also?
Have you ever shot a gun?
Don't be scared...come shooting with me. I'll let you hold my target. Just kidding.
If you have never shot a gun, you should give it a try before dismissing them outright..
I shoot for the curve... anything above that is gravy.
You could be killed by a car in the blink of an eye. Do you want to ban cars?
Someone could break your neck in the blink of an eye. Should we ban hands?
Do you get the point? Everything is a weapon, anything is capable of being used to kill you, yet it is absurd to think of banning cars, knives, and hands. Why is it not absurd to think of banning guns
Few people have a car for self defense. the only reason to have a gun is to kill. Cars have other uses and hands have other uses. Guns don't. And yes, I am against carrying knives on the street and other places (except for when you need a knife, for your job for example)
Many people won't use a gun for selfdefense, they will use a gun as a weapon when they get into fights with someone, even just vocal fights.
I disagree. Are you saying that the general populace lacks the self control to know when to use a gun and when not to? Your argument assumes two things:
1) People can't tell the difference between killing someone and hurting them.
2) If carrying guns was legal, everyone would do it.
I don't believe either of those would be the case.
Nobody is saying to remove the law on murder or assault, people will still face the consequences of their actions, regardless. They are saying remove the law which keeps people from carrying a weapon. Lastly, the people who don't use the gun for self defense are the one's who are carrying guns illegally now.
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That's a wonderful misrepresentation...my dad owns a gun...he doesn't own it to kill, he owns it because he was a cop for 20 years and has come to appreciate how valuable a gun can be in a responsible home.
So do I support people just randomly carrying guns on the streets? As long as they are doing it legally, it's their constitutional right to do so..then again, you don't live in America, so you wouldn't give a damn about that.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
That's a wonderful misrepresentation...my dad owns a gun...he doesn't own it to kill, he owns it because he was a cop for 20 years and has come to appreciate how valuable a gun can be in a responsible home.
So do I support people just randomly carrying guns on the streets? As long as they are doing it legally, it's their constitutional right to do so..then again, you don't live in America, so you wouldn't give a damn about that.
I'm sure that gun isn't there for decoration. A gun is for killing. That can be for selfdefense of yourself, or your family, or to harm someone. that doesn't matter, the weapon is designed to take someone's life.And actually do care. Europe is trying to follow America's example. If the laws in America change, then it will be a subject for debate in Europe.
Do you have anything to back that up?No, but the entire subject is pure speculation. You can't say for 100% fact that more lives would have been saved if people carried a gun for self defense, neither can I say for 100% fact that its better to not allow anyone to carry gun. What i do have is my personal perspective. Its fact that people think less clear when angry or sad. I'm sure you have been in situations when you were angry when you did things which you later regret.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Honnestly, come over here to Europe and you probably won't even notice your in Europe. There really isn't that much diffrence between Europe and USA.
I hate to say this Nasica, but when somebody crazy enough in Australia decides to get a gun illegally, and go around shooting people, and nobody is able to stop him because of local laws...It's going to take a lot of willpower for me to not come here and say "I told you so"
America isn't special, there are crazy people everywhere, and if they want to do it bad enough, they can aquire a weapon and kill people. The fact that this guy aquired his firearm legally is pretty irrelevent, because anybody in ANY country who really wants a gun, can find a way to get one. Be it America, Canada, Australia, or any country in Europe.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Yeah the anti-gun people are retarded. They think that even if the government starts banning whatever; that tens of millions of firearms already in the country are going to just dissapear. And even if there was some kind of a collection effort by the government- only the legal ones are going to be confiscated; leaving all those unregistered weapons out there in the hands of criminals.
Shit. Here in Detroit it takes 10 to 15 minutes for a cop to show up. The only reason the city is not worse off is because of the high percentage of firearm ownership amongst the upstanding citizens. Most of our crime is drug related; and has nothing to do with upstanding citizens suddenly opening fire in a rage; or becoming intoxicated and making bad decisions. At the very least; no one ever has an opportunity to kill 32 defenseless people.
Look, you can debate this as long as you want. The fact is this: It's the second amendment in the Bill of Rights. As long as this country stands, it will not be abolished. When it is abolished, the United States of America falls.
I'm sure Europe and others are just waiting for that to happen.
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Except the Europeans that come here are only some of its citizens, and its ultimatly the goverment that makes the deals.Honnestly, come over here to Europe and you probably won't even notice your in Europe. There really isn't that much diffrence between Europe and USA.
I disagree with that. Germany is substantially different from the USA: The proportional representation, welfare system, healthcare system and educational system are vastly different from the US versions thereof.
While morally and culturally Germany and America have many similarities, their economic policies differ greatly.
Germany is but one country in the EU. There's still Austria, Spain, Italy. etc.... each of which is unique.
Trying to generalize Europe is like trying to generalize American culture.
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I do agree that this is a very touchy subject, but you have a terrible way of making your point.
I believe what Teddy is trying say is that if in fact we do ban guns and make more strict laws for guns we are making our selves more vulnerable than before. Its not hard for people to get guns these days, stricter laws won't do shit to stop this. Its like cocain, weed, any drug for that matter, its all illegal but still not very hard to get. So while guns would be banned for law abiding citizens, those crazy enough to commit these murders and shootings would have no fear to do so for they have the means to do so. What would they have to fear, nobody has guns, so no one will be able to stop them.
Who ever said the only reason for guns is to kill is an ignorant fool. I think that guns are(sadly) used more for this reason, but not solely for it.
The best solution that I can come up with is stricter background checks, or classes to get a gun license (doubt this would work giving the 2 amendment)
Thats my two cents.
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I do agree that this is a very touchy subject, but you have a terrible way of making your point.
I believe what Teddy is trying say is that if in fact we do ban guns and make more strict laws for guns we are making our selves more vulnerable than before. Its not hard for people to get guns these days, stricter laws won't do shit to stop this. Its like cocain, weed, any drug for that matter, its all illegal but still not very hard to get. So while guns would be banned for law abiding citizens, those crazy enough to commit these murders and shootings would have no fear to do so for they have the means to do so. What would they have to fear, nobody has guns, so no one will be able to stop them.
Who ever said the only reason for guns is to kill is an ignorant fool. I think that guns are(sadly) used more for this reason, but not solely for it.
The best solution that I can come up with is stricter background checks, or classes to get a gun license (doubt this would work giving the 2 amendment)
Thats my two cents.
Very true and my argument as well.
I shoot for the curve... anything above that is gravy.
I like it when Non-Americans like to tell us American's on how we should govern ourselves. There are 80 million gun owners in the US, if they were all crazy everyone would be dead..
The other day I had a conversation with someone who was totally anti-gun. He went on about how they should all be banned and gun owners should be punished with jail time or fined. Blah Blah. I responded with, according to the 2nd amendment I have the right to own firearms. Just like the 1st amendment where you can say anything you want to us Gun owners, It is a right. The Bill of Rights. He kept saying Jail Time...
Then I gave him a blank stare and said "The second amendment is what makes this country great, when it comes down to it, It is something I am willing to die for. Are you?"
That ended our conversation quick. He just walked away and didn't say anything else.
So in America, its legal to own a gun but not carry one ??
Do you know which part of Sydney to go to if you wanted to seek an illegal firearm? Probably. I'm sure nobody outright told you where to go, but you live in an area, pay attention to the news and such, you get a pretty good idea. The advantage you have when you come to America is, the American news casts are so sensationalized that they thrive on stories of law breakers, it will be incredibly difficult to NOT know which sections of a city to go to in order to obtain illegal firearms. Keep in mind, you need to look at this task as that you WANT to obtain an illegal firearm, not that you're going to simply be approached by a random stranger selling them.
It's wrong for a fool to try to end another man's relaxing walk with violent non-sense.
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