Bioware making KOTOR MMO

starman999

www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php





Theres the link.

Retgar

Considering that Bioware has no announcement on their website and no other media outlet has reported it, you may want to take this with a grain of salt.   Note the word "rumored" is used a few times.  That being said, it's a possibility.

Zephyn02

http://www.bioware.com/bioware_info/press_releases/2006_03_15_Austin/

BioWare IS making an MMO and it was published on their website last year. What it is has not been offically released BUT it is speculated to be KOTOR.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/724/724236p1.html

They are going to be using the HeroEngine

*Edit* They are also using http://www.streambase.com/products/  <----that

http://forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=559543&forum=22&sp=0

Also if you read this the developers are stating here that they are not telling yet (possibly due to license issues)

gillvane1

Basically a Star Wars game in the time period that KOTOR is set in? Sounds great since I loved KOTOR. But is it gonna be SWG pre NGE or post NGE?

Koolaider

They got this from EGM's rumor section. I still hope it's true, though.

Zephyn02

Originally posted by Koolaider


They got this from EGM's rumor section. I still hope it's true, though.

As do I my friend; KOTOR 1 & 2 were quality games and Bioware is a company that puts out good games. My only hope is that they put enough money into it to make it REALLY good; I don't really wish to see their name tarneshed because of an MMO. The reason that WOW is so popular is because Blizzard invested $$$$$$$$$$$$$ Like 70 Million Most other MMO's are 20 - 30 Million range; some even less. I hope that BioWare can pump in at least 50+ Million to produce a good solid MMO.

daftshadow

I enjoyed KOTOR 1&2, so if it is true the Bioware is making a KOTOR mmorpg, that would be really awesome.

gillvane1

When you say "MMORPG" I assume you're talking about a game with character progression and not a first person shooter. I'd love to see the MMORPG version of all the weapons in KOTOR, plus the ability to gain both DARK and LIGHT abilities. I hope they make a really nice skill system.





Absinthe Lovers

Leodious

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Originally posted by gillvane1
Basically a Star Wars game in the time period that KOTOR is set in? Sounds great since I loved KOTOR. But is it gonna be SWG pre NGE or post NGE?

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IF it IS a Star Wars game, I doubt the dynamics are going to be too similar to either one.

Yukkione

This is a very interesting rumor. I read sometime ago that Bioware was hireing people for a future MMO project. I loved KOTOR and can foresee an MMO translation that really works.

BadSpock

You forget that Bioware didn't work on Kotor II, only on the original.

You also forget that Lucasarts announced that they will be using Hero engine and some other of the mentioned technologies on their upcoming action game set in between prequels and original trilogy.

 

I'd love to see Bioware get involved with another Star Wars title, hopefully an MMORPG, though they are already making their own sci-fi MMO which has no relation to Star Wars.. Mass effect? Or is that a single player RPG...

 

Point is, I'd love for the rumor to be true, but I doubt it will be.

edit: I should read the article before posting.. oops...

Lucasarts isn't using hero engine for their jedi action game, they announced using some crazy physics system..

Mass Effect is thier single player RPG, no relation to MMO.. The fact they said they have Boulder's Gate, NWN, and Kotor I lead designer on it is a GREAT sign, even if it's not a Star Wars title.

might be a lot more truth to rumor.. I look forward to finding out if it's true! I imagine Bioware's MMO will kick ass even if not KOTOR, but be SO much cooler if it is KOTOR

lomiller

Biowear distanced itself from KOTOR 2 because of the problems they had working with Lucas Arts the first time around and have publicly stated they have no interest in licensed properties.  So, while they are making an MMO I see almost no chance it will be KOTOR.  

LordKyellan

I would hope for it, but I see little reason to do so.



I do believe, though, that if you were going to make a Star Wars MMO, that the time of the Old Republic would be the time to set it in. I don't understand why they didn't go that way for SWG. The setting is much more rich and versatile, less restrictions on various things (including Jedi, but that's less important than some other things).

MuffinStump

I seem to remember an interview where it was mentioned that their new MMORPG would be an entirely new 'original IP/world/idea/franchise'.

Seems like it was in CGW, err I suppose it is 'Games For Windows' now. I suppose the good bet would be KOTOR though.

Ah well, it will be years before we see this one out anyway even though they have been working on this for some time it seems.

Nightshade44

I've heard this rumor for probably over a year now, and quite frankly, I really do hope it's true. As an SWG vet, and NGE-hater, I was pretty crushed to see what SOE did to my beloved SWG. I have always loved the KOTOR games too, and it would be pretty interesting to see that time/setting made into an MMO... however, I really just hope it's done well this time and doesn't make the same mistakes as SWG. I also hope BioWare does well too, seeing as how this is their first MMO... isn't it?

Elnator

Lord...



Folks until Bioware makes an announcements all you are doing is making assumptions.  But it'll be humorous if these rumors turn out to be false and everyone re-learns the hidden meaning of the word ASSUME.



Personally I am not sure I'd play another Star Wars MMORPG.  Anything Star Wars means LEC is behind it.  And they've already proven they can't be trusted in maintaining the direction of their games.   BioWare specifically REFUSED to do a sequel to the original KOTOR because of how LEC micromanaged them on the original. 



Folks might want to remember these simple facts.  Sure BioWare puts out decent games (though the release of NWN 2 was kind of a huge letdown for most of us out here) but an MMO???  In Partnership with LEC?  I'm not sure I'd even want to be in the beta.  I'm pretty soured on Star Wars titles.  SWG wasn't entirely SOE's fault after all.

piquet

Originally posted by Elnator

Sure BioWare puts out decent games (though the release of NWN 2 was kind of a huge letdown for most of us out here)

BioWare had nothing to do with NWN 2, it was made by the company Obsidian Entertainment (who made KOTOR 2 as well) and published by Atari.

I kinda liked NWN 2 once I got used to the wierd camera/controls, and honestly I don't understand why everybody else seem to hate it, but then again I've always been accused of having bad taste in pretty much everything.

Elnator

Originally posted by piquet

Originally posted by Elnator

Sure BioWare puts out decent games (though the release of NWN 2 was kind of a huge letdown for most of us out here)

BioWare had nothing to do with NWN 2, it was made by the company Obsidian Entertainment (who made KOTOR 2 as well) and published by Atari.

I kinda liked NWN 2 once I got used to the wierd camera/controls, and honestly I don't understand why everybody else seem to hate it, but then again I've always been accused of having bad taste in pretty much everything.

Hmm I could have sworn I saw a BioWare symbol on the box... wait.... why yes, right here on the back cover... Along with Obsidian we see a BioWare logo.  They did collaborate on it, thankyouverrymuch.  Obsidian was the main project member, however, so I'll give you that.



Bottom line:  BioWare flat out REFUSED to do a KOTORII.  I just find it odd that people continue to speculate that they're now going to do a 180 and do a Star Wars MMORPG.  Frankly if I were BioWare I wouldn't go within 200 million kilometers of any LucasArts Project.  LEC is a horrible producer of games.  The vast majority of games they have released were utter crap.  Or mis-managed (See SWG for a prime example).

Eichenkatze

Originally posted by Elnator

Lord...



Folks until Bioware makes an announcements all you are doing is making assumptions.  But it'll be humorous if these rumors turn out to be false and everyone re-learns the hidden meaning of the word ASSUME.



Personally I am not sure I'd play another Star Wars MMORPG.  Anything Star Wars means LEC is behind it.  And they've already proven they can't be trusted in maintaining the direction of their games.   BioWare specifically REFUSED to do a sequel to the original KOTOR because of how LEC micromanaged them on the original. 



Folks might want to remember these simple facts.  Sure BioWare puts out decent games (though the release of NWN 2 was kind of a huge letdown for most of us out here) but an MMO???  In Partnership with LEC?  I'm not sure I'd even want to be in the beta.  I'm pretty soured on Star Wars titles.  SWG wasn't entirely SOE's fault after all.

I have to agree there.

After i left SWG from its large screw up... i think i'm done with Star Wars games online. As much as i love Star Wars... i don't know if i could play another MMO with star wars on it. That once blooming flower inside me has all but died completely.. I might give it a try if Bioware turns out a Star Wars MMO but unless its perfect... i don't think i'll stick with it.



In all honesty though... i don't think Bioware is doing a Star Wars MMO. Its probably something like Jade Empire themed or.. maybe even a NWN title. Who knows, but something tells me its not going to be star wars. Bioware may have made KOTOR.. but also take note that Obsidian made KOTOR2.



Now i wouldn't give your hopes up.. but don't get too obsessed with the idea either..

elvenangel

Originally posted by Elnator

Originally posted by piquet

Originally posted by Elnator

Sure BioWare puts out decent games (though the release of NWN 2 was kind of a huge letdown for most of us out here)

BioWare had nothing to do with NWN 2, it was made by the company Obsidian Entertainment (who made KOTOR 2 as well) and published by Atari.

I kinda liked NWN 2 once I got used to the wierd camera/controls, and honestly I don't understand why everybody else seem to hate it, but then again I've always been accused of having bad taste in pretty much everything.

Hmm I could have sworn I saw a BioWare symbol on the box... wait.... why yes, right here on the back cover... Along with Obsidian we see a BioWare logo.  They did collaborate on it, thankyouverrymuch.  Obsidian was the main project member, however, so I'll give you that.



Bottom line:  BioWare flat out REFUSED to do a KOTORII.  I just find it odd that people continue to speculate that they're now going to do a 180 and do a Star Wars MMORPG.  Frankly if I were BioWare I wouldn't go within 200 million kilometers of any LucasArts Project.  LEC is a horrible producer of games.  The vast majority of games they have released were utter crap.  Or mis-managed (See SWG for a prime example).

Bioware had nothing to do with how NWN2 turned out EXCEPT  Obsidian used Biowares Aurora 2.0 Engine for the game.  Thats the only reason Bioware is on the box.   

BTW I still uphold my promise to eat my shoe if Bioware renigs on their statement of doing original games only.  

Nightshade44

Just for the record, on the topic of BioWare developing KOTOR and not KOTOR II.... the KOTOR story line was much better than KOTOR II imo.

piquet

Originally posted by Elnator

Originally posted by piquet

Originally posted by Elnator

Sure BioWare puts out decent games (though the release of NWN 2 was kind of a huge letdown for most of us out here)

BioWare had nothing to do with NWN 2, it was made by the company Obsidian Entertainment (who made KOTOR 2 as well) and published by Atari.

I kinda liked NWN 2 once I got used to the wierd camera/controls, and honestly I don't understand why everybody else seem to hate it, but then again I've always been accused of having bad taste in pretty much everything.

Hmm I could have sworn I saw a BioWare symbol on the box... wait.... why yes, right here on the back cover... Along with Obsidian we see a BioWare logo.  They did collaborate on it, thankyouverrymuch.  Obsidian was the main project member, however, so I'll give you that.

Sorry my bad. Yes they did "collaborate" as in BioWare providing the Aurora engine and giving design and technical advice when needed. However, I consider it an Obsian Entertainment project.

Beside that, I agree completely: BioWare and LucasArts - ain't gonna happen.

War_Dancer

Originally posted by Nightshade44

Just for the record, on the topic of BioWare developing KOTOR and not KOTOR II.... the KOTOR story line was much better than KOTOR II imo.

I know I'm in the minoity but I prefered the storyline in KOTOR 2. The plot twist in KOTOR 1 really didn't appeal to me at all. KOTOR 1 was actualy released finished though, KOTOR 2 started feeling far to patchy near the end. I'm looking forward to seeing what Mass Effect turns out like.

 

 

 

Nightshade44

Originally posted by War_Dancer

Originally posted by Nightshade44

Just for the record, on the topic of BioWare developing KOTOR and not KOTOR II.... the KOTOR story line was much better than KOTOR II imo.

I know I'm in the minoity but I prefered the storyline in KOTOR 2. The plot twist in KOTOR 1 really didn't appeal to me at all. KOTOR 1 was actualy released finished though, KOTOR 2 started feeling far to patchy near the end. I'm looking forward to seeing what Mass Effect turns out like.

 

 

 

Meh, I pretty much knew exactly what was happening and going to happen in II from the early stages of the game...

War_Dancer

Originally posted by Nightshade44

Originally posted by War_Dancer

Originally posted by Nightshade44

Just for the record, on the topic of BioWare developing KOTOR and not KOTOR II.... the KOTOR story line was much better than KOTOR II imo.

I know I'm in the minoity but I prefered the storyline in KOTOR 2. The plot twist in KOTOR 1 really didn't appeal to me at all. KOTOR 1 was actualy released finished though, KOTOR 2 started feeling far to patchy near the end. I'm looking forward to seeing what Mass Effect turns out like.

 

 

 

Meh, I pretty much knew exactly what was happening and going to happen in II from the early stages of the game...

Fair point but I still enjoyed the story getting to that end more then KOTOR 1. I think how badly put together that end was and how much of it was missing hurt a lot of peoples overall opinion of the story and full credit to Bioware for not having that flaw in KOTOR 1.

Nightshade44

Originally posted by War_Dancer

Originally posted by Nightshade44

Originally posted by War_Dancer

Originally posted by Nightshade44

Just for the record, on the topic of BioWare developing KOTOR and not KOTOR II.... the KOTOR story line was much better than KOTOR II imo.

I know I'm in the minoity but I prefered the storyline in KOTOR 2. The plot twist in KOTOR 1 really didn't appeal to me at all. KOTOR 1 was actualy released finished though, KOTOR 2 started feeling far to patchy near the end. I'm looking forward to seeing what Mass Effect turns out like.

 

 

 

Meh, I pretty much knew exactly what was happening and going to happen in II from the early stages of the game...

Fair point but I still enjoyed the story getting to that end more then KOTOR 1. I think how badly put together that end was and how much of it was missing hurt a lot of peoples overall opinion of the story and full credit to Bioware for not having that flaw in KOTOR 1.

Well in KOTOR II's defense, Visas Marr was a hawt addition... But the guy at the mining facility, your first teammate is basically Carth Onasi 2.0, which was kinda lame. I found it hard to fall into character, some random old lady who speaks in riddles is just kinda squatting on my ship, ok... whatever. And Nihilus, probably my favorite character from Kotor II, and easily one of my favorite personas from Star Wars lore, was totally underplayed in the end. Alot of the game world seemed recycled in a way, visiting alot of the same planets or types of planets from Kotor I. I just think BioWare did much better overall, perhaps because they did get a chance to kickstart the series, or perhaps they are just better story tellers.