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Could This Be the Game of Year for 2008?

alyndalealyndale Member UncommonPosts: 936
I know, I know, don't go counting your chickens before they hatch, so to speak.  However, from the screen shots and the few videos I have seen, Aion really seems to capture my interest.



Now, I realize this is a stretch, but remains amusing to ponder, the old "what if's.."

Let us ponder then, shall we?



Supposition 1:  Aion will be, to my understanding, using a different animation/graphic engine.  From the videos the animation is flawless, however, that is a promotional video, therefore it is made a bit differently than the actual game.  Not too versed on this type of game engine that will drive this game, so anyone out there familiar with it please, do fill us in.



Supposition 2:  The game is created by NCSoft.  Lineage 2 is the nearest MMO in "flavor" to this game.  I wonder if by the end of 2008, Aion just might replace L 2 as North American "flagship" game for NCSoft?  How different than Lineage 2 will Aion be?  Anyone have any actually knowledge out there?  To some degree, what I have seen from screen shots, it has the "feeling" of a Lineage 2 copy. 



Supposition 3:  Game release of beta version will be, I am guessing here, but sometime in early 2008, maybe? I am wondering how polished this game will be when finally released toward the end of 2008, (just a guess-RELAX!)  Did NCSoft pay attention to what happened with Sigil/SOE's release of Vanguard?  Hopefully, they did pay attention and will release Aion when Aion is ready.



More to come later, folks.  Have to complete some things here at work, then travel some treacherous miles to get home tonight in very stormy weather!

All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
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  • AseenusAseenus Member UncommonPosts: 1,844
    for starters lets just say that this is NC Soft, this company is by far the more experienced MMORPG  makers of our day and age...



    now that we got that out of the way, the graphics engine that they used in the promo vid isnt just to make the game look better, take a look at the rest of the videos out at the moment of the alpha version of the game and you will see its graphics are top of the range for our time!



    lineage 2 has nothing to do with Aion, if you read the NC Soft announcements on there home page you will see them also working on Linage 3 :)



    Aion wont be replacing L2 in any way, trust me when i say L2 will have as many players still playing it when Aion comes out, it is said that Aion should be out at the end of 2007, but in my opinion it will be early 2008



    However closed Beta should be out Q3 2007 and open Beta soon after that... looking forward to it :)
  • AseenusAseenus Member UncommonPosts: 1,844
    oh and id just like to add that if you are interested in Aion at all then go too www.aionsource.com



    its the biggest Aion fan site at the moment and it has a lot of information :)
  • CaladonCaladon Member Posts: 152
    Not that I mind that site, but Aseenus could you please stop spamming it everywhere? If people want to visit it they will find it. I almost hope your advertisement has the opposite effect.



    As for the topic...



    1. All we know about the engine is that it's the Cryengine... and it's good looking even today. Aion will no doubt graphically be a looker - probably the best. We'll have to wait and see how AoC turns out, as that's the only competitor I can see, personally. I think however that Aion has more of a natural beauty which stems from the concepts and artwork. Remember that all videos that are out are very dated.



    2. Aseenus, that is not entirely true. While the universe of Aion has nothing to do with Lineage 2 - the art direction is very similar, and it's the same development team. However, no, Aion probably won't steal too much attention from L2, but you never know. Interesting to observe is that it's the European team which seems to be "most responsible"  for Aion, contrary to the NA team being so for L2. Anyway - Aion is a stand-alone game and another flag ship product of NCsoft.



    3. What Aseenus said.. but I don't like speculating since things could change in a second. :)

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  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    Maybe...

     

    I intend to try it, so I hold my judgment till then.  I will admit that I didn't follow this game development at all, so I may be up for a big surprise either way.

     

    At any rate, I will try it.

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  • blaamblaam Member Posts: 111
    Originally posted by alyndale

    I know, I know, don't go counting your chickens before they hatch, so to speak.  However, from the screen shots and the few videos I have seen, Aion really seems to capture my interest.



    Now, I realize this is a stretch, but remains amusing to ponder, the old "what if's.."

    Let us ponder then, shall we?



    Supposition 1:  Aion will be, to my understanding, using a different animation/graphic engine.  From the videos the animation is flawless, however, that is a promotional video, therefore it is made a bit differently than the actual game.  Not too versed on this type of game engine that will drive this game, so anyone out there familiar with it please, do fill us in.



    If you pai atention ther is a lot of flaws in the videos actually but that all  twinking and then next videos ( hopefully by E3 or even before) those should be amazing. . However using the cry engine isnt much different than using the UT engine for lineage2 back then... they seem to have  modified it enough to suit well  they goals.



    Supposition 2:  The game is created by NCSoft.  Lineage 2 is the nearest MMO in "flavor" to this game.  I wonder if by the end of 2008, Aion just might replace L 2 as North American "flagship" game for NCSoft?  How different than Lineage 2 will Aion be?  Anyone have any actually knowledge out there?  To some degree, what I have seen from screen shots, it has the "feeling" of a Lineage 2 copy. 



    Lineage 2 was developed for the corean market,  wich include the typical asian grind lot of us from america or europe dont like. Most of the NCsoft products been targeting small "niches" ( not sure about english word) like Lineage 2 targeting hardcore FFA games, CoX, GW and the upcomming Tabula rasa. AION is the first game developped by NCSOFT Corea and targeting casual worldwide players (wich  obviously mean take parts of WOW market).



    Supposition 3:  Game release of beta version will be, I am guessing here, but sometime in early 2008, maybe? I am wondering how polished this game will be when finally released toward the end of 2008, (just a guess-RELAX!)  Did NCSoft pay attention to what happened with Sigil/SOE's release of Vanguard?  Hopefully, they did pay attention and will release Aion when Aion is ready.



    Ncsoft have a lot of experience in this genre of games, as much as one doesnt like games like Lineage2 fact is  NCOSFT games always been well polished and even Lineage2 3/4 years after launch is still an amazing designed game. The company is heavy enough not to rush due to moneatary issues.. you can expect them not to launch a game if they decide its not ready yet. I for one trust ncosfot to give us a wonderfull game that fill my expecations..



    More to come later, folks.  Have to complete some things here at work, then travel some treacherous miles to get home tonight in very stormy weather!
    I do beleive the grind  free asian playstyle is still heavely anchored in people minds. But NCOSFOT have shown how they  master the mmorpgs for the last years ( producing GW, CoX, Lineage1/2, AUTO ASSAULT). Although all those games were targeting different kind of players.



    Its probably  gona be one of the biggest surprises of  2008 imo ... let's hope i'm not worng !
  • KoSPr0KoSPr0 Member Posts: 66
    NC leads the MMO market hands down, TR and Aion will both be big games IMO goes along with GW/L2/L1/CoX/AA/Exteel  quiet nicely



    and there's quiet a bit known about the Cryengine if you just go look it up
  • alyndalealyndale Member UncommonPosts: 936
    Originally posted by Aseenus

    oh and id just like to add that if you are interested in Aion at all then go too www.aionsource.com



    its the biggest Aion fan site at the moment and it has a lot of information :)
    As for L 2 having anythingto do with Aion, recall that I said "it appears".  Aion has the feeling of "looking like" Lineage 2.



    At any rate, yeah, yeah, I have read all that about L 3.  They've been chatting that up for the past year and a half.  I suppose, even if they do release L 3, will it have "legs" to keep up with the new millennium type PvP games out there?  Maybe, however, I have a feeling that a large number of North American will be curious to try Aion when it is finally released.  There will always be a strong Asian market for Lineage 2 and, or 3, but the Western market tends to be one of flux and change.



    It will be interesting to see what happens to these and other games of NCSoft.  Interestingly enough their Austin based company is not far from me at all!



    By the way, I may very well try Tabula Rasa as it appears to be a sci-fi MMO rather than a fantasy based MMO. 



    Cheers, 





    All I want is the truth
    Just gimme some truth
    John Lennon

  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938
    I love the concept art...those great columns of colour look amazing!
  • JetrpgJetrpg Member UncommonPosts: 2,347
    Originally posted by KoSPr0

    NC leads the MMO market hands down, TR and Aion will both be big games IMO goes along with GW/L2/L1/CoX/AA/Exteel  quiet nicely



    and there's quiet a bit known about the Cryengine if you just go look it up
    Fan boys ftw.



    You seriously just listed AA as on a positive note, what were you thinking.



    I liked cox ok , it totalyu boaring after a few weeks cuase all the missons are the same , but the character creations is worth noting. It however is a ncsoft published game not made game ... big difference.  Same goes for GWs.



    Aion looks good so far but so far i do not see anythign that would place it above older mmos on the all time best mmo scale. But i am still followign becuase it looks somewhat promising.

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  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690
    I can't see why not. Name me a game other than WAR people will be excited about playing in 2008 ? it has a chance to be good, the graphics are just amazing.
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  • CaladonCaladon Member Posts: 152
    Originally posted by Jetrpg

    Originally posted by KoSPr0

    NC leads the MMO market hands down, TR and Aion will both be big games IMO goes along with GW/L2/L1/CoX/AA/Exteel  quiet nicely



    and there's quiet a bit known about the Cryengine if you just go look it up
    Fan boys ftw.



    You seriously just listed AA as on a positive note, what were you thinking.



    I liked cox ok , it totalyu boaring after a few weeks cuase all the missons are the same , but the character creations is worth noting. It however is a ncsoft published game not made game ... big difference.  Same goes for GWs.



    Aion looks good so far but so far i do not see anythign that would place it above older mmos on the all time best mmo scale. But i am still followign becuase it looks somewhat promising. We're all airing opinions here. And yes, NCsoft are the masters of MMO's. They have a wide line-up of spearheaded games even though they might not be for everyone. They're the opposite of Blizzard who by their one MMO tried to satisfy everyone. *failure beep* Still only an opinion.



    I think you should look into Aion a little bit more if you can't see what we find so promising.



    These are facts:

    *) It looks extremely good. A highly polished CryENGINE combined with the Korean development team who truly are masters at work when it comes to art and concept design. From the screenshots and movies that are out there - it *does* look better (sure, subjective) than any game out now. I can't come up with a single one that would outdo Aion graphics-wise. Not even coming ones. The only one to compete would be Age of Conan, one of Microsofts DX10 flagships.



    *) A horizontal and vertical world with extensive flying and aerial combat. They're taking it pretty far. Sure, games have had flying, but not close to the degree Aion is claimed to. I took a look at the soon-to-come Chinese game "Perfect World" which also is doing aerial combat. However, it's not at all as well-made. It lacks the detail and really smooth animations we've seen in Aion. Its world also lacks the same kind of vertical vector.



    *) They're putting a lot of thought into combat systems, learning from last-gen games (skill chaining, divine chargable powers, formations etc.) and provide good premises for interfaction PvP via a large battleground between the "realms".



    Well, there's a lot more, but I can't really think of them right now. Something to note however would be that except for those things above, it will still incorporate the "ordinary". It will still have many professions, crafting, guilds, great class progression, supposedly very good character customization options ad nauseum.



    But just as I am entitled to my (very rational) opinion, of course so are you. I just hope that you'll have a closer look and realize the large potential this game has

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  • JetrpgJetrpg Member UncommonPosts: 2,347
    Originally posted by Caladon

    Originally posted by Jetrpg

    Originally posted by KoSPr0

    NC leads the MMO market hands down, TR and Aion will both be big games IMO goes along with GW/L2/L1/CoX/AA/Exteel  quiet nicely



    and there's quiet a bit known about the Cryengine if you just go look it up
    Fan boys ftw.



    You seriously just listed AA as on a positive note, what were you thinking.



    I liked cox ok , it totalyu boaring after a few weeks cuase all the missons are the same , but the character creations is worth noting. It however is a ncsoft published game not made game ... big difference.  Same goes for GWs.



    Aion looks good so far but so far i do not see anythign that would place it above older mmos on the all time best mmo scale. But i am still followign becuase it looks somewhat promising. We're all airing opinions here. And yes, NCsoft are the masters of MMO's. They have a wide line-up of spearheaded games even though they might not be for everyone. They're the opposite of Blizzard who by their one MMO tried to satisfy everyone. *failure beep* Still only an opinion.



    I think you should look into Aion a little bit more if you can't see what we find so promising.



    These are facts:

    *) It looks extremely good. A highly polished CryENGINE combined with the Korean development team who truly are masters at work when it comes to art and concept design. From the screenshots and movies that are out there - it *does* look better (sure, subjective) than any game out now. I can't come up with a single one that would outdo Aion graphics-wise. Not even coming ones. The only one to compete would be Age of Conan, one of Microsofts DX10 flagships.



    *) A horizontal and vertical world with extensive flying and aerial combat. They're taking it pretty far. Sure, games have had flying, but not close to the degree Aion is claimed to. I took a look at the soon-to-come Chinese game "Perfect World" which also is doing aerial combat. However, it's not at all as well-made. It lacks the detail and really smooth animations we've seen in Aion. Its world also lacks the same kind of vertical vector.



    *) They're putting a lot of thought into combat systems, learning from last-gen games (skill chaining, divine chargable powers, formations etc.) and provide good premises for interfaction PvP via a large battleground between the "realms".



    Well, there's a lot more, but I can't really think of them right now. Something to note however would be that except for those things above, it will still incorporate the "ordinary". It will still have many professions, crafting, guilds, great class progression, supposedly very good character customization options ad nauseum.



    But just as I am entitled to my (very rational) opinion, of course so are you. I just hope that you'll have a closer look and realize the large potential this game has



    I hear you here  , i have read, and watch the vids.. its looks ok. I don't assume becuase a developer says we have this and its amazing that it is.

    Umm before (different) i metioned cox  as havign flying etc , but so did Shadow bane now that i think about it. In fact I could lists "fetures" Sb offers and it would = or sounds better then Aion's (wows and many other mmos) the fact is is that its not just what is offerd but the quality of it. GW offers so many different skills etc, i coudl type out the numbers and list the possible combinatiosn etc. but in the end all of the skills seem boarign to em , you can't use them the way i like using skills. This is just and example,  Now i am not sayign Aion will not be good , but i am saying that while i think Aion is promissing . .  nothing yet release show the game to be good however.



    This is similar with PotBS the pvp and other aspects look cool. what about the rest of the game ? I don't know it has not been released yet so i can not say its gonna be the best game of anything let alone a good game.



    So when i see aion best of 2008 , i say nothing i see so far would have me believe this , it does look good , but theres a lot in the postitve that looks possibly negative.

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  • TaeraTaera Community ManagerMember CommonPosts: 1,078

    While I saw a bit of Aion gameplay at the last E3, my real interest is in the graphics - it looks absolutely gorgeous, and...come on, wings!

    That being said, graphics a good game does not make.  I am not putting my eggs in any baskets for 2008 just yet, but I certainly have Aion in my "watch" list!

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    MMORPG.com

  • CaladonCaladon Member Posts: 152
    Just for the heck of it, could you show some features of a game that you think has a larger chance of being say "Game of the Year 2008" or "MMO of the Year 2008"? Might be too early (as with the case of Aion), but would be interesting if possible :)



    Anyway, all that we know now is that it will look great - but for all the other things we will evidently just have to wait and see. It is just that I do not know of any game that is at the same level as Aion. So please, maybe I have missed one, just point me to it and I will definitely have a look!

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  • SwanSongSwanSong Member UncommonPosts: 24
    It's too early to decide where that title will go to in 2008. I'd definitely keep an eye out for Aion though, whether or not you believe in NCSoft. So far they've given us excellent concepts, and some exciting ideas for gameplay. Let's hope it delivers :3
  • runedragonrunedragon Member UncommonPosts: 57
    After to speaking to some of the guys at NCSoft this weekend at Collectormania, I think it is gonna be pretty much the grind they have been doin in all their MMO's.  Shame really has alot of potential.
  • SwanSongSwanSong Member UncommonPosts: 24
    Originally posted by runedragon

    After to speaking to some of the guys at NCSoft this weekend at Collectormania, I think it is gonna be pretty much the grind they have been doin in all their MMO's.  Shame really has alot of potential.
    Really? What did they exactly say? I'm curious :P
  • CaladonCaladon Member Posts: 152
    Originally posted by runedragon

    After to speaking to some of the guys at NCSoft this weekend at Collectormania, I think it is gonna be pretty much the grind they have been doin in all their MMO's.  Shame really has alot of potential.
    I don't want to "bash" you or anything for that... but all their MMO's are different! Lineage 2 is a real pain with grind, while Guild Wars has none. Others are in the middle.



    However, I personally think you got the wrong impression. Aion is being developed with casual players in mind. It will not have the "grind" that historically might have characterized Korean MMO's. Unlike the Lineage series, it's being made for a global market. It's obviously not going to be leveling-less however. But what kind of character-evolvement MMO would it be if that was the case?



    Above is based on early interviews with the Korean development team.

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  • Focus*BankaiFocus*Bankai Member Posts: 219
    Originally posted by runedragon

    After to speaking to some of the guys at NCSoft this weekend at Collectormania, I think it is gonna be pretty much the grind they have been doin in all their MMO's.  Shame really has alot of potential.
    maybe u should do some research before u say ne thing like that.. THEY have already stated (they meaning NCSOFT) that there will be no grind like lineage2 . i wish people would stop saying things like this learn about a game , do some research, THEN post about what the grind is gonna be
  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938
    This game is simply going to kick butt. We can only wait and see...but if the concepts and videos are anything to by...



    NCsoft definitely are the masters of MMOs. They have all those awesome games out, Aion coming out soon, and Guild Wars 2 in development. They definitely do have the best of the best!
  • runedragonrunedragon Member UncommonPosts: 57

    These pixels are wasted on your names, I know what I have heard and I have formed an opinion...... You have read something and think it is set in stone and when the game is released you will bitch and moan as usual...

  • CaladonCaladon Member Posts: 152
    Originally posted by runedragon


    These pixels are wasted on your names, I know what I have heard and I have formed an opinion...... You have read something and think it is set in stone and when the game is released you will bitch and moan as usual...
    We have noted your opinion. Now, read up a bit on Aion and rethink it. We too have rational minds and realize that things not always turn out as they are written. However, judging from the information available - it's ridiculous to believe that this game would become a grind (is that really what you meant?). No whatsoever information released on any website, exhibition or in any newsletter should possibly be able to give that impression. Yes, I have also spoken to the ncsoft community guys. 



    Aion is designed with casual players in mind. Casual. Players. Aion. Designed for casual players. Casual players are supposed to find good joy in playing Aion. Aion is designed for them. Casual. Aion. Monkey.



    I'm saying all this with the purest of intentions. :) I don't want you to miss out and forget about a game with this potentialb just because of a misunderstanding. No offence intended. Now, if there is to be further discussion concerning this. Could we please keep it civil?

    Q. Wouldn’t AION compete with Lineage2 for the same playerbase? What kind of gamers are you looking to target with AION?
    A. Both games target MMORPG players, of course, but we’re paying more attention to the interests of casual users for AION.

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  • ComanComan Member UncommonPosts: 2,178

    Might be an good game however not sure yet. It is an decent company with makes it and they use an great Engine.

  • XincyrveniXincyrveni Member Posts: 10
    From the ss and videos the game looks pretty good but thats the same as most games before they come out.  Hopefully will get a chance at beta to see if its good or not. Doesn't really matter to me if its similar to L2 or not.
  • Focus*BankaiFocus*Bankai Member Posts: 219
    if anyone does research this game and do their homework. Then they will all realize that hey... ITS GONNA TOTALLY ROCK . those that dont try will jus label it another asian grind fest (which in my opinion isnt that bad) and wont give it another look. i mean hey this game could change mmorpg as we know it!! and im very excited about  that
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