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Is it just me, or are there no real good mmorpg games out there right now?
Adamal
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It seems to me that all the games are starting to look to the same to me. I start plying one and i am bored after 2 weeks because it is the same old grind. Anyone know of a really good game????
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Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
That said, there are always exceptions and maybe someone has a current game that covers exactly what you are looking for.
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Yeah it's pretty much just you. Maybe it's ADD or maybe you're just not that much into MMOs anymore.
Fact is, there are more good MMOs on the market now then there has ever been. And no, not all of them are the same. If they all don't hold your attention, it's quite possible this just isn't the genre for you.
By their very nature MMO demand at least a minimal amount of investment from the player, sometimes that investment comes in the form of Time, Imagination, Concentration, Passion and or a willingness to accept. But really the range of quality products out there is amazing.
From EQ and EQ 2 all the way WoW and FFXI, right on up to Saga of Ryzom and L2. Sure things could always "be better" but things are constantly getting better in this genre, that's the beauty of this market. It's always changing and getting better.
Maybe, just a thought, the problem is you? Maybe you just need to look elsewhere for gaming fun. Because after all, if you can't find any joy in a hobby like gaming, what's the point of investing any of yourself in it. Ever?
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Well i am waiting for WAR and GW2. Other than those 2 games I don't see anything great to say " yeah i have to play this right away"
I haven't done much follow up On AOC so I suppose that might be ok but other than that nothing special out there to me.
OP:
Im not saying you are like this.. but most people i know who feel the same about MMorpg and video games in general are the ones that either play 12 hrs a day or have beeing playing in a regular basis like for 10 years.. I mean if you do the same stuff with no break over and over again .. no matter how or what you are gonna get bored.
When i start to get bored about a game i stop playing it for a while... try to share gamming with other hobbies, that helps a lot.
I have been crying about this the last like 2 weeks. I have recently played wow then eve (eve is fun just needs more content for causal gamers ... ie work on the missioning system) , then cox (i had played this before and while i like the game it gets super boring after 2-3 weeks ... why simple nothing ever changes all the missions are the same after about 50).
WEll i got into a beta of a NC game , its fun .
But still i need a game i can play with me friends... so what did i do... reinstalled daoc ... i love it, it so darn fun once again. At first i thought omg i can't handle ... nope its great. I just wish there was a bit better UI and the old ui mod i had was not working with new quests. But it so fun in the first 2 days of it i pvped i leveled and its really fun to play classes that have so much depth to them unlike classes in cox - yes cox classes are customizable but they lack depth. I played a friar , omg i heal buff and smack some in melee .. how great is that. and a heretic, buff heal nuke and melee. I love it and the thingh is is i do them all well. I want to play a thurg but i know that w/o a sorc and power buff it will be slow going... but power seems to regen much faster now so maybe not.
I logged on to my old valk too so crazy
But i am waitingfor war but the more i see the more i am disapointed... i really think mythic sold out to the wowers of the world.. PotBS may be good also.
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Nope. It's not just you. It seems that these days MMORPG's come in preset shapes with preset flavors, none of which are great. But everyone seems to be intent on settling for that artificially content feeling, whereas those of us who have once tasted better, now have no choice but to either settle or stop, leaving us with a bitter after-taste with every new MMORPG we play.
People often wonder why it is that companies often stop trying to be the best by quality standards and forgo the people's expectations in attempts to bring us something we'd really love to play. The way I see it is they're pretty damn content with taking your cash right now since you're so willing to pay for a half-assed game no better than what you played seven or eight years ago.
But whatever though. I'll just patiently wait for a pleasing game to come by, passing my time with singleplayer games that are worth the $50, and don't require a monthly fee. I'm not too hyped about MMOs anymore, since none of them have really delivered. So, I'll most likely just go about my life until someone, someday, pops up and says "hay! wai arnt joo plying Cities of Guildcraft Online!?", and then I'll check it out.
Oh, one more thing, notice how many games these days give a big 1-2 week open beta before release? Then once the game hits shelves, and for several months afterwards, they act as if they've never once heard of the term "trial period". And it isn't until their number of subscribers slow down that they start to offer trial periods to try and bag the hesitant consumers, which they do with their promises of grandeur, and you find yourself dissapointed then that they didn't quite lie to you, they just forgot to mention that all of the good stuff doesn't come until you've put a year of "play" and money in to the game. So you lie to yourself, saying that it's worth it, and that getting to the end-game is really an achievement, but all you're really doing is helping the greedy companies who have bastardized online gaming. There's your one and only achievement. By the time you reach end-game, you'll be so far entrenched that you wouldn't dare quit the game, because a good chunk of your life will drift in to oblivion, and by the time you realize that it was the worst investment you've ever made, you're selling yourself short and swallowing your pride just for one more hit of that watered down anti-drug you called "the greatest game evar".
Okay, yeah, I'm done with the dramatics.
But yeah, all the new games seem the same, just a different setting, different story, same old grind and same old price.
except LOTRO, theres prettymuch boring games out atm , imo.
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AC1/2, AO, DAoC, EQ1/2, SoR, SWG, UO, WAR, WoW
Otherwise, there are a lot of decent choices that all have some fun elememts to them.
There's so many games I've never tried, UO, SWG, EQ 1 or 2, EvE just to name a few....
That said..I'd like to see something radically different.... so I'll be trying some of the new games coming out this year....
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I don't know that there are no "real good" MMORPGs out right now. There are more choices than ever in terms of types and settings of games, with varied graphical engines and features. However, I look at it more that, "Are there any good NEW MMORPGs out there?"
The majority of the MMORPGs in the last few years have used the Everquest 1 model, with minor alterations. While EQ was a fun game in its time (personal opinion, of course), games have allowed themselves to get too locked into the foundation concepts from that game. Aggro management, defined class roles (tank, healer, magical DPS, melee or ranged DPS), disjointed zones, etc.
I've been playing WoW for a while, if only because the graphical style is such a far cry from the norm. Not that it is better or worse, but it is definitely different. However, I think they made the majority of the game over-simplified, leaving the only true challenge in the form of elaborate raids (which I don't have the time or partience for, personally).
I think to date my favorite MMORPG was DAOC, as it introduced so many amazing elements above and beyond the original EQ model. DAOC had the first objective-based PvP (storm castles, obtain relics, etc), a nice variety of classes and races, as well as the ability to customize your character's skillset by virtue of specializations. Few, if any, games since have matches even those features. Sadly, the game got old, unable to compete with the newer graphical engines of its competitors and unable to dynamically adjust to the desires of the MMORPG consumers.
DAOC had tons of balancing flaws (that's what they get for making classes independent to each realm in a PvP game
), and the expansions didn't always give players what they were asking for, but it had a good run in its day. I have high hopes for WAR and hope Mythic learned many a lesson from the DAOC lifecycle.
I'm looking for the next MMO to "break the mold" and provide a gameplay experience beyond wha is currently out there. D&D Online did that to an extent (although ill-advised as it broke from the roots of how the Pen and Paper game had always worked) by becoming a truly "real-time" MMO. When you right-click the mouse, you swing your weapon - no more autoattack.
I want a game that allows detailed customization of the character's appearance - sliders aren't necessary if you provide more than eight options for a head! More models, more eyes, more hairstyles! Color selection should ALWAYS be on a full RGB scale. The actual body can be more simplified into archtypes; rendering clothing and armor can get very expensive on a game's resources. Give me many options on how to advance my character, many skillsets to choose from, and options to be able to go back and forth between them. WoW's Talent system just enhances existing abilities (for the most part), the gear a character uses is more important. I want a game where the spec is more important, and the gear enhances the spec. Allow two Mages to look completely different and possess different sets of skills, so they aren't cookie cutout versions of one another.
Most importantly, have content for the solo character to play, but give a REASON for people to group! It doesn't make sense to group in WoW for the most part - a person gains more exp over time by themselves! Provide bonuses to exp; provide challenging encounters balanced for groups of 2-8 people (bigger group = more fun for all!); provide opportunities for the raiding crowd to do what they enjoy. If you're going to use instances - and they do have a place in games, no doubt about it - make them scale to the group size/levels.
I know I'm asking a lot, but I have very high hopes for the games to be released over the next year, and I look forward to some genuine ingenuity and unique gameplay experiences.
A huge part of the problem is the gamers themselves...especially the unsophisticated easy-to-please gamers (i.e. little kiddies and simpleminded adults). Another part of the problem is the "money men" who provide the eager-to-please-the-money-men developers with the cash necessary to make the next WOW knock-off. And, speaking of developers, the MMOG industry itself has a very limited pool of talent to draw from and what little talent there is is 2nd rate at best...but that will change over the next 3-5 years when the movie studio types start migrating to the genre.
Why spend your hard earned money on MMOG junk when you can play MMOG junk for free?!
I agree with the OP, and several others.
I began my MMO life with the original NWN on AOL, then on to UO. I find MMOs these days very boring and linear, chase the purples(as it were)!
At this point, I am not subscribed to any MMO's (first time in 10 years), and I am hoping that some of the games coming out within a years time live up to their promise..
TV is killing me
you would actually say this ingame (not even roleplaying) " hum i think its time i went to see my tailor" or " nice, my armour is ready i can go pick it up from the guild armoursmith"
and best part of all is going into anchorhead cantina 20 people wearing full ST (storm trooper) armour yelling "HAHAHA DIE REBEL SCUM" and see a bunch of rebels crafters runing like chickens without heads, or rebel fighters taking out their weapons and start shooting histerically to see if they can at least kill 1 or 2 imperials before going down... and of course the jedi force runing away with 2-3 Bounty hunters on their tail.
or the other way around
a few imperial guards patroling a base, 40 rebels storm the base and invade it while alarms are going off, then the 40 rebels disapear, when about 200 imperials show up all thhey see is the ruins of their once called northern base (that cost them millions to build)
P.S. all that is in PvP and some random PvE NPCs that just hapen to walk by.. poor unlucky fellers
enough about good times i had in pre-cu
now im playing GW wating for GW2 just because its different... there are lots of PvP events, that are all made in the name of fun tournaments or arena combats (gladiator style) or if y ou want to work your way through an army of undead with 7 other people spamming holly dmg... thats also fun.
or going aon a 4 man ranger team to the underworld... right now that is the only game that makes me feel that i am not playing single player. (and if i wanted to i could play it single player)
WoW i quit just because up to lvl 50-60 you preaty much play solo and grind your way up high lvls
archlord... thats single player game
ryzom... not willing to pay 15$ to go on mainland
rappelz same thing as archlord mindless grind
SWG i quit cuz of the NGE
UO... getting old
and anyother game i just dont last more than 2 weeks because its preaty much single player till high lvls
so when i want to relax without nobody i go and play Oblivion or TMNT
I wish it were just you, OP. Sadly, I feel the exact same way -- I've been trying desperately to enjoy many games just so I'd have something to play, but I just can't play WoW any longer, and the most fun I get from any game right now comes from City of Heroes/Villains. It's not the game itself; I've just been having fun with the character customization -- the rest of the game is too repetitive to be any fun.
I don't know what I am going to do until WAR, AoC, TCoS, or the like come out... RL only goes so far.
Maybe I'll waste 5 minutes trying out that SWG free trial to see how crappy it is compared to what everyone's been saying.
80% of the threads here are complaints about current mmo's or people looking for something new (which usualy dosn't exist).
I keep myselfe busy with oblivion atm and thats about it. Bought lotro and at level 6 it bored the shit out of me.
Frankly it's a phase we all go through now and then. Play something else for a bit then go back to it.
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