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Are we ever going to get a GOOD Sci-fi mmo???
Vhayne
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Since Blizzard and their idiocy just completely dropped the ball on this one, I've been looking over what's available, and what's coming.
The only Sci-fi mmos out are mediocre at best. Yes, Anarchy Online was great in it's day, but that day has been long over. Now, with an entire engine overhaul and gameplay revamp, that game could come back. But seeing as how they still, after many years, haven't even touched the horrendous character models, I seriously doubt that will happen.
Eve, yeah, good game. But it's all spaceflight, and so complex that it'll take weeks of reading guides just to understand it a bit.
SWG, I'm not sure about. I would perhaps give it a try if I would ever stop reading how the servers are so empty.
The other rabble out there, all of that top down, 2d junk? They can keep it.
As for those in development? Tabula Rasa -- perhaps, might be decent. Star Trek -- comeon, has there ever been a GOOD start trek game? Stargate Worlds -- all we can do is hope.
Anyway, as you can see, I'm a bit pissed off that Blizzard just completely dissed the mmo community by not making a Starcraft MMO. We NEED that alternate reality. It's the time for it. I'm growing sick of seeing dwarves, swords, and dragons.
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if we had something of the scale of System Shock 2 and Freespace 2 like.. with servers all over the world. a proper quest with indepth plots, instead of kill this or that for this or that. It is something like these are your objectives, and then the crap hits the fan then more stuff.
but i am only imagining.
I feel its about time there are more sci-fi titles. Sci-Fi, espically space themed titles are a dying breed.
Currently: Playing EVE Online
Previous: FFXI, Dragonrealms, sad little stint in WOWland.
Awaiting: Fallen Earth, Hero''s Journey, Tabula Rasa, Age of Conan.
THQ is going full-bore with the Warhammer 40,000 IP, including a MMO currently in development. Here's a couple of info links for you:
www.gamespot.com/news/6166560.html
www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php
Needless to say, a Warhammer 40K MMO will no doubt see the light of day before Blizzard manages to release Starcraft 2.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II
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"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II
"People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
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There are good sci-fi MMO's out there, they just don't get the same publicity as the fantasy genre.
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Saga of Ryzom (incredible game)
Auto Assault (Shakey Start but still fun)
Rising Force Online (debatable if its good)
City of Heroes/Villians (Yes it is Sci-Fi)
Anarchy Online (looks bad but the game has sooooo much depth)
EvE Online (Great Looking Deep game, hard for beginners)
The Matrix Online (Game got alot better after 2 years but the lack of initial supprt killed the community)
Phantasy Star Universe (dunno about this game never played it but it is Sci Fi)
Planet Side (good game, poorly supported, lack of support affected community population)
Star Wars Galaxies NGE ( better now that the devs are reverting back to some old ideas, new publish will enhance it alot)
There are plenty of Sci Fi MMOs and a few of them have been successful and still have potential to become successful again. Saga of Ryzom is a gem of a game and i strongly suggest you go play the free trial, its unlimited until you decide to leave the noob island. SWG while it has a really bad rep from the NGE has been gaining momentum recently from the new devs that are now working on it. There adding alot of ideas that were taken out. I recently resubbed and i am waiting for the new publish to be released. CoH/V is a phenominal game and has a huge player base. The publishes that Cryptic Studios releases could almost be SoE EQ2 expansions there so massive and add so much to the game.
Anyhow, i think before you get all bent out of shape about the make believe lack of Sci Fi games you look into the field more.
Its a shame that more Sci-fi games are not attempted. I guess fantasy is easier, throw in some rats, some cookie cutter classes and some raids...bam...your in business. The scope of a good Sci-Fi could be huge.
The only thing on the way that looks good is Tabula Rasa, Fallen Earth and maybe Force of Arms. (possibly Huxley but I'm not up on that one)
One thing I really hate is how very few of the few Sci-fi games are original licenses. They all end up IP's and that just creates problems because they never live up to anyones expectations. None of the big name IP's have had any success. SWG was always a train wreck, The Matrix bombed....Star Trek is a disaster waiting to launch.
I would like to see some Sci-Fi games built off of old P&P IP's if anything.
Traveller would be ideal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveller_%28role-playing_game%29
Maybe: 2300 AD, The Morrow Project, Twilight 2000, Rifts ......on and on.
Currently there a few decent choices. SWG isn't that bad, if you like SW and never played it, its worth a look, its also not in as bad shape as the crying vet make it out to be. Ryzom --- sort of, it has more in common with a fantasy game but has alot of sandbox and some Sci-Fi elements, EVE is ok. I don't know how Auto Assault is but it got pretty good reviews. Anarchy Online was pretty good, its an older game, I'm a graphic whore so its hard for me to stick with it. Planetside was fun a few years ago. Its not really an MMORPG but if you want all out Sci-Fi action in a FPS environment its was a good game.
Avoid RFOnline, Face of Mankind and Matrix....just bad games there.
Good luck
Saga of Ryzom (incredible game)
Auto Assault (Shakey Start but still fun)
Rising Force Online (debatable if its good)
City of Heroes/Villians (Yes it is Sci-Fi)
Anarchy Online (looks bad but the game has sooooo much depth)
EvE Online (Great Looking Deep game, hard for beginners)
The Matrix Online (Game got alot better after 2 years but the lack of initial supprt killed the community)
Phantasy Star Universe (dunno about this game never played it but it is Sci Fi)
Planet Side (good game, poorly supported, lack of support affected community population)
Star Wars Galaxies NGE ( better now that the devs are reverting back to some old ideas, new publish will enhance it alot)
There are plenty of Sci Fi MMOs and a few of them have been successful and still have potential to become successful again. Saga of Ryzom is a gem of a game and i strongly suggest you go play the free trial, its unlimited until you decide to leave the noob island. SWG while it has a really bad rep from the NGE has been gaining momentum recently from the new devs that are now working on it. There adding alot of ideas that were taken out. I recently resubbed and i am waiting for the new publish to be released. CoH/V is a phenominal game and has a huge player base. The publishes that Cryptic Studios releases could almost be SoE EQ2 expansions there so massive and add so much to the game.
Anyhow, i think before you get all bent out of shape about the make believe lack of Sci Fi games you look into the field more.
I'm sure he did bother to look around , given the list you provided I would call only 2 worth my time. It's all about personal preferences. I do agree Ryzom is great but it's a fantasy/sci-fi hybrid and doesnt belong here, it's in a class of its own. Auto assault would be great if you cared about vehicle combat, but guess what? Not everyone does. Heroes and Villains are super-hero games, no, not sci fi.
As many people said here AO could do with a major facelift and combat overhaul to compete with current gen mmos.
MxO.. heh won't bother, just say it isn't everyone's cup of tea... Planetside is good but it's all about combat. I won't even touch SWG. Point is a lot of the games fore-mentioned aren't sci-fi or are so imbedded in it's niche that it doesn't deliver what's become the norm in other mmos.
Truth is, quality true sci fi games are lacking, especially when you compare that ratio to how many other mmos are out there.
~dai
Saga of Ryzom (incredible game)
Auto Assault (Shakey Start but still fun)
Rising Force Online (debatable if its good)
City of Heroes/Villians (Yes it is Sci-Fi)
Anarchy Online (looks bad but the game has sooooo much depth)
EvE Online (Great Looking Deep game, hard for beginners)
The Matrix Online (Game got alot better after 2 years but the lack of initial supprt killed the community)
Phantasy Star Universe (dunno about this game never played it but it is Sci Fi)
Planet Side (good game, poorly supported, lack of support affected community population)
Star Wars Galaxies NGE ( better now that the devs are reverting back to some old ideas, new publish will enhance it alot)
There are plenty of Sci Fi MMOs and a few of them have been successful and still have potential to become successful again. Saga of Ryzom is a gem of a game and i strongly suggest you go play the free trial, its unlimited until you decide to leave the noob island. SWG while it has a really bad rep from the NGE has been gaining momentum recently from the new devs that are now working on it. There adding alot of ideas that were taken out. I recently resubbed and i am waiting for the new publish to be released. CoH/V is a phenominal game and has a huge player base. The publishes that Cryptic Studios releases could almost be SoE EQ2 expansions there so massive and add so much to the game.
Anyhow, i think before you get all bent out of shape about the make believe lack of Sci Fi games you look into the field more.
Saga of Ryzom --- I tried it, twice. I never even played it past an hour or so each time. The combat to me was stale. I did try crafting, and found it nice however. Last I heard, the company was in trouble and the game was perhaps being shutdown? I haven't looked into it recently.
Auto Assault --- I actually liked this game. I thought it was well done for what it was. The problem was the lack of people playing. Empty servers for an mmo is bad.
RF Online --- Nothanks. As much as I love the asian graphic styles. I can't stand the point and click interface and the grind. Sure some "allow" youto use WASD for movement, but it always feels "tacked on". Just doesn't work well.
CoX --- I recently tried this game.....again. I know people seem to love it. But I just can't get into it. I've never been into comic books, and one of the things I love about mmos is the item aquisition (sp). I love finding new gear and seeing what they look like and how powerful they are. CoX doesn't deliver this to me since there are no items in the game, only powerups (mostly 1-shots) which I despise. I always seem to want to hold onto them for when "the time is right", but end up keeping them always and never using them.
Anarchy Online --- I stated that I loved AO. The problem is that, there's no way in hell I'm going to play a game as ugly as that on a $3k machine. The world isn't that bad. But the character models are horrible. At least EQ1 redesigned theirs with a graphic update.
EvE online --- I also commented on this game. I'm sure it's great for those that enjoy it and understand it. Call me stupid, but I can't seem to soak all of the information in the time it takes to get through the boring flighttimes/mining/etc. I played the trial many many times, because I REALLY want to like this game. But every time, I just can't seem to get into it. When you start playing your Gameboy DS while autopiloting back and forth from base to asteriod fields, then there is something wrong.
The Matrix Online --- I'm not even going to comment on this one. I've read the reviews and comments on it. I think I might have even tried a Fileplanet beta of it once. It was ridiculous. Terrible game.
PSU --- I played the multiplayer demo on my 360. I was excited after hearing about it. But when I actually played it, and saw the craptastic gameplay and enviroments, I removed it from my HD, never to look back.
Planetside --- Bought this game years ago. It was pretty good actually. But I never did stick with it. I recently tried the "free" account for it (can't remember what it was called), but I couldn't play it for some reason. My mouse kept moving WAY too fast. I never could find a fix for it. Uninstalled, disappointed.
SWG --- Believe it or not, I played this game at release for over 2 months. After grinding my way (having to resort to a macro) to Master Artisan, I just couldn't take it anymore. I tried the combat, and despised it. That freaking HAM bar, my god. It sucked, plain and simple. Since the NGE, I've tried the trial. But it doesn't let you play much of it. I've actually considered giving it another try though, but I'm worried that it's going to be another empty game.
Tabula Rasa --- I can't SAY much, but I will say this. The game might be pretty good, but it has some work to be done first.
So you see, from my point of view....we REALLY need a GOOD Sci-Fi mmo. And yes, I HAVE done my research. I hate WoW, but I still can respect the game it is. They did an awesome job with it, making it a fun, simple, and smooth game. Now, if a company (blizzard would have been ideal), could do the same thing in a sci-fi setting, then we'd be getting somewhere.
that is a serious under statement, it needs a lot of work and some serious tweaking.
i do agree that blizz should make a sci-fi mmorpg they have the finances and the talent to produce a out standing one
This is a perfect example of poor form of speech, and you should be ashamed sir!
that is a serious under statement, it needs a lot of work and some serious tweaking.
i do agree that blizz should make a sci-fi mmorpg they have the finances and the talent to produce a out standing one
I don't know where you're getting your information. Sounds like you're in beta, but that's weird, because if you were then you would know that TR is in much better condition than your average MMORPG just entering closed beta.
However, TR isn't a true MMOFPS, so if you want that then you should check out Fallen Earth. Huxley is around also, but they haven't released any information about it. Just a video saying it would be released almost a year ago.
This is a perfect example of poor form of speech, and you should be ashamed sir!
I just want to point out ... NO ONE CARES.Im just waiting for Tabula Rasa and Colony Studios' mmo, they are enough for me, mmo, sci-fi or not