While I understand the intent of your post, I think you missed the intention of the OP. I played with a female avatar in an online game and "she" started coming on to me, saying "hun" and other things to make me believe he was a "she". I thought it was weird, and it really creeped me out, then he, she, it or whatever it was asked me to cyber and I said - I really don't want to cyber with a guy playing a female avatar. (not that I want to cyber with anyone mind you) He replied - "ah why did you have to spoil all the fun!" Sorry what is fun for he,she or it is not fun for me - specially when I'm being baited and I am an unwilling participant. What he tried ot do with me is sick and dishonest. So maybe Shava you should rethink your post. Your post sounded more like to me that you're the one with the "issues" Lighten up.
No, what I'm saying is, when people do that, say, "It's not cool, I'm not putting up with it, and I'm outing you to the virtual universe. This behavior is not welcome, and people care enough to make sure that if you play this way, you won't have the manipulative "fun" you think you will."
Don't respond with discomfort, or embarrassment. Respond with assertive power, and take action with other responsible people in a reasoned and organized and dispassionate way. Women for ages have had to learn to deal with similar issues in the workplace, and we've found that cringing or having hysterics in the face of gender manipulation doesn't work. We've found that broadcasting the bad behavior, when we can, tends to stop the problem. I just think those tactics would be effective here.
However, most guys won't do that, because they feel uncomfortable (for whatever reasons -- admitting they've been had, or whatever) saying, "This behavior is unacceptable." If a woman playing a woman is manipulating you, or a man playing a woman is manipulating you, they are bad players in the traditional sense of that term. It has nothing to do with their gender, and it has everything to do with their perception of your vulnerability to being manipulated. What I'm saying is, don't be vulnerable to predatory behaviors. Push back. This is not about "all women are like..." or "all guys who play chicks are like..." or "all gays are like..." This is about "I am part of a culture which needs to be changed which sets guys up to be vulnerable to manipulation, and I won't play that game so it won't be perpetuated."
Just make sure people won't put up with it. Treat it like kill stealing or some other social pathology online. But don't treat it as *more* than an individual piece of bad behavior. Don't treat it as something that reflects badly on women or guys playing women or gays -- most of those folks don't do this. It's just someone being a jerk.
I find this article outrageous and sexist. Women are the only people who can come up with interesting names? Women are the only ones who care what their outfits look like? I agree that stupid names are dead givaways and that likewise silly speech is also, but this article is way too ridiculous and stereotypical.
I am filled with rage.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
You know, this topic comes up over and over again, and it's rarely without an underlying topic of homophobia. When, as a grrl gamer (48 years old, gaming multiplayer online games since early MUDs, RPGs since late 70's, wargames since early 70's) I play an MMORPG character, it's about 2/3 likely to be female, in my experience. The stronger the RP in the RPG, the more likely my avatars will be female.
But you know, no one ever writes an article about how to spot a woman playing a guy. And you know why? Because no one feels uncomfortable about being manipulated by women playing guys.
For you guys out there who feel uncomfortable being manipulated by females (ersatz or not), I have one recommendation:
Therapy.
Get over yourself. Get over your ability for your gut, your "chivalrous" conditioning, or some anatomy lower down allowing you to be manipulated by half the human race. This will plague you forever. It will hurt you in RL business and social contacts.
Women are real people. I don't enjoy people assuming that, because I'm female, I need *extra* help, more than if I were a man. I don't enjoy people assuming that I am trying to manipulate them because I'm female. I don't like people assuming that, if I *do* accept help, I am saying it's ok for some guy to hit on me (something that, I think, would be called harassment in an office situation).
But this attitude that women -- or people who try to play women -- are evil (after sex, after extra help, making a fool of you or your friends) is an issue that lives in men's heads. It's a product of misogyny and homophobia. And if it's perpetuated by people who use it, it's because men who are manipulable do not make the effort to wake up, get their brains in a pile, and change their own behavior triggers.
It's not us guys! It's not the women, and it's not the guys-playing-women. It's you. Stop being vulnerable, and smack your friends when they fall prey to their own worst impulses.
Get over your collective selves, please!
Gold farmers don't kill games, people who buy gold kill games. If there weren't a market for griefers, there wouldn't be the kinds of various grief we see. Whiney female AVs who take advantage...of whatever...are there because people not only tolerate but regularly reward the behavior.
I've been competing with the sleek manipulative women in the business environment my whole life who thing a bit more fashion and makeup and a few fewer pounds gives them an advantage -- and I see that playing out *successfully* regardless of merit, skill, intelligence, or a record of performance -- because...uh..guys will be guys, and women won't speak out. So guys, get over it; and women, speak out for integrity in female AVs of whatever gender of player.
Sometimes games are just a magnifying glass for our RL pathologies.
Shava
I agree. Trust me...I know. It is a uphill battle to be taken seriously sometimes...ingame and in RL. I've been extremely lucky, in that I have guy friends ingame who do respect me as a player regardless of my gender. And for the record I will say something if someone is out of hand. You can only lead through actions...and after the initial shock goes away, its your gamplay that matters in the long run.
I play a female avatar in some games depending on how I feel. In LOTRO, my main is a Captain. I feel better playing a female with the Herald following me around. If I played a male, I'd feel like I was pervert.
I never ask for anything, and if anyone asks, I tell them I am a male.
This article wasn't meant to suggest that all guys who play female avatars are bad, or that it's somehow wrong (I've been known to play a female avatar or two). What this article IS doing, is finding a humorous way to point out the fact that there are guys out there who pose as women to gain some of the advantages that can sometimes come with it.
Originally posted by Stradden This article wasn't meant to suggest that all guys who play female avatars are bad, or that it's somehow wrong (I've been known to play a female avatar or two). What this article IS doing, is finding a humorous way to point out the fact that there are guys out there who pose as women to gain some of the advantages that can sometimes come with it.
Anyone who gives women free stuff in a MMO just because they are female is an idiot, and the people posing should get everything they want.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
I just assume everybody in game is a dude. Also, what's the point of being nice and helping her all day if you aint gettin shit out of it? Obviously if we were friends I would help out, but not cuz i think its a girl. And if i had to THINK it was girl most likely I'm not gonna be friends with you. If your gender is mad iffy youre obviously up to something shady. There was this dude on WoW in my old guild that was like this. "She" would never get on vent and always said some stupid shit a real girl wouldnt say.
This article wasn't meant to suggest that all guys who play female avatars are bad, or that it's somehow wrong (I've been known to play a female avatar or two). What this article IS doing, is finding a humorous way to point out the fact that there are guys out there who pose as women to gain some of the advantages that can sometimes come with it.
(found the humour and is still chuckling over it) I dont care what type of toon people play as long as they don't come onto me or expect things out of me. Its a supposed to be game!! ... if someone wants some virtual cyber fun go to second life i hear that world is rife with it.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
This article wasn't meant to suggest that all guys who play female avatars are bad, or that it's somehow wrong (I've been known to play a female avatar or two). What this article IS doing, is finding a humorous way to point out the fact that there are guys out there who pose as women to gain some of the advantages that can sometimes come with it.
Oh of course. I knew there was an element of humor to it...although, honestly it could have been more funnier and serious..but thats my opinion.
But you do know that anytime someone even broaches the subject of gender and gaming, some people will have strong emotional reactions. Honestly, I find this subject fascinating.
I felt this write up was well intended yet the limited "MMO" experiance of the writter and stereo-typical views seem more attuned to a 12-14 year old.
There's been no MMO to date that rewards dancing with EXP!?!? I wonder if the greatest online gaming conspiracy of all time (SOE/LA defrauding the subscriber base with the "new game enhancements") had wiped away any memory of the Entertainer in Star Wars Galaxies; pre-cu was the best MMO created besides SOE failing to develop any content.
Sorry, the write up was a fun read although very untrue in the real mmo realms, unless it was specifically written with WoW in mind.
edited: Some of the best gamers I know are female players. I'd say they are actually a majority in terms of quality gamers.
What wasnt mentioned though was the reaction of other rl females to other rl females.Some of them are horrible to the other female toon simply because shes a female toon. Mayhaps a bit of territorial jealousy? LOL dunno, all I know is I have experienced out and out hostility from other female toons towards my female toon. The same other female will treat my male toon with sugar.
I show no girl better treatment than I show guys, it gets old quick when they ask. I think it all boils down to that most guys are simply retarded. We all know this and we knew it thousands of years ago, it is simple common knowledge. I still don't give them items and I don't give them special treatment. I open doors for everyone, I pull out seats for everyone, I help everyone in general.
Also before any gets the idea that I am obese and ugly, you have no idea. I tip the scales at a massive 430 pounds and I am a tall 4 foot 3 inch land man. I am like a dwarf with fat flaps that he uses when he spins, they are like extra concussive skills. All people who want to fight me do so with caution as I wobble with a mean heavy breath of doritos and pepsi.
Any girls in EQ2 come to me for free plat, woohoooo!!!!
Be cool to people, and try and stay cool that way you never have to regret making someone feel bad. Don't take what ya got granted because some people never get to feel happy. We get to play these great MMOs and surf a good site. Be thankful for what ya got and next time ya feel down imagine a fat sea otter waddling with a pillow and a night cap. Bam! smiles!
Toons with the largest bust size are almost always male players. It is really that simple.
"Hurray, finally a game where I can fulfill my lifelong dream of taking emotionally dead women and finding the most financially viable means to exploit their bodies with the ultimate goal of making them Hugh Hefner's personal furniture."
Gosh, when did MMORPG.com start allowing some pseudo-psychoanalysis article-sort of thing? Cause I think I missed it, or it's in front of me . Who the heck really cares about this stuff? Anyone remembers April fools day joke on MMORPG.com? Well, it might be a chunk of truth there just for us to enjoy today...
Not a bad read. Interesting subject matter. Might want to cross check with some MMORPG vets though before making statements such as the dancing/XP one. An error like that immediately detracts from the rest of the article as it brings your credibility into question.
As a girl gamer I kinda feel as if this whole article was written just to get a rise from girl gamers.
Well you succeded.
It's rare that I find myself so pissed over something I read here that I find myself for a lack of words to phrase my response, yet strangely that's where I find myself at the moment.
As mentioned earlier, having glaring errors such as the no MMO gives experience for dancing lends to the fact the parts of the article weren't properly researched out. And when I come across articles with such errors, I don't bother finishing reading the article.
As mentioned in another post, it seems to be slanted very heavily towards World of Warcraft. MMOs have existed since the mid 90s with Meridian 59. I know a lot of new people are coming to see this part of the industry exists, but doing a bit of research before writing up an article gives a person much more credibility. As it stands now, I will be scrutinizing any future content from this particular author until I can honestly believe she properly prepares her articles with adequate research.
Up to the point of mentioning no experience for dancing in an MMO, it started out somewhat interesting. Although, this topic has horribly been done to death both through articles and on so many forum posts.
As mentioned earlier, having glaring errors such as the no MMO gives experience for dancing lends to the fact the parts of the article weren't properly researched out. And when I come across articles with such errors, I don't bother finishing reading the article.
As mentioned in another post, it seems to be slanted very heavily towards World of Warcraft. MMOs have existed since the mid 90s with Meridian 59. I know a lot of new people are coming to see this part of the industry exists, but doing a bit of research before writing up an article gives a person much more credibility. As it stands now, I will be scrutinizing any future content from this particular author until I can honestly believe she properly prepares her articles with adequate research.
Up to the point of mentioning no experience for dancing in an MMO, it started out somewhat interesting. Although, this topic has horribly been done to death both through articles and on so many forum posts.
Hold your horses there this wasn't written by a woman, no self respecting woman would ever right such total donkey-piss and try and pass it off as an editorial.
As mentioned earlier, having glaring errors such as the no MMO gives experience for dancing lends to the fact the parts of the article weren't properly researched out. And when I come across articles with such errors, I don't bother finishing reading the article.
As mentioned in another post, it seems to be slanted very heavily towards World of Warcraft. MMOs have existed since the mid 90s with Meridian 59. I know a lot of new people are coming to see this part of the industry exists, but doing a bit of research before writing up an article gives a person much more credibility. As it stands now, I will be scrutinizing any future content from this particular author until I can honestly believe she properly prepares her articles with adequate research.
Up to the point of mentioning no experience for dancing in an MMO, it started out somewhat interesting. Although, this topic has horribly been done to death both through articles and on so many forum posts.
Hold your horses there this wasn't written by a woman, no self respecting woman would ever right such total donkey-piss and try and pass it off as an editorial.
Not bashing you or anything....but it was written by a woman. Yeah...I had to re-read the header of the article cause I thought a guy wrote it. (that is not to imply that a guy would exclusive write a bad article like this!)
As mentioned earlier, having glaring errors such as the no MMO gives experience for dancing lends to the fact the parts of the article weren't properly researched out. And when I come across articles with such errors, I don't bother finishing reading the article.
As mentioned in another post, it seems to be slanted very heavily towards World of Warcraft. MMOs have existed since the mid 90s with Meridian 59. I know a lot of new people are coming to see this part of the industry exists, but doing a bit of research before writing up an article gives a person much more credibility. As it stands now, I will be scrutinizing any future content from this particular author until I can honestly believe she properly prepares her articles with adequate research.
Up to the point of mentioning no experience for dancing in an MMO, it started out somewhat interesting. Although, this topic has horribly been done to death both through articles and on so many forum posts.
Hold your horses there this wasn't written by a woman, no self respecting woman would ever right such total donkey-piss and try and pass it off as an editorial.
Not bashing you or anything....but it was written by a woman. Yeah...I had to re-read the header of the article cause I thought a guy wrote it.
<---a woman btw I as well had to double check before I hit Post Message the first time.
Surely the author must be one of the talked about fake girls?
It's not often I am incensed to reply, I prefer mostly to read and learn, but I just had to add my 2 pennies worth here.
Seems to me the author has no idea what girl gamers do or don't do. Yes there are many fake girls out there, but reading this article is not going to help anyone spot them!
I have about had it with these ignorant "female gamer" stories, you know what a majority of "female gamers" want? For editorials to quit segregrating (sp?) them off as some kind of second class player. You know what a female gamer is? A gamer, just like everyone else, and they do not need to be constantly referred to as something different.
I have rolled numerous male and female toons. I do it so that all my toons don't look similar. But I don't do it to take advantage of anyone. And if people ask me if i am a girl i tell them I am a dude. There is nothing wrong with a female rolling male either. MMORPGs are made to have fun not to pick up on people. If you are looking to date someone stop complaining about males rolling female, shut off the game, leave your house and go somewhere were you actually might meet someone.
Sigh god that infuriates me even more to realize a fellow female gamer would stoop to the second class gamer mentality.
I guess it's time to get bare knuckles here.
The FACE of Online gaming is changing.
It's time for the players to sit up and take notice as the industry has been.
The hard fact is out that women are taking over the online gaming scene. EVERYWHERE you look the statics show women now outnumber men in online gaming.
The image of the weak, lost, incompetent female gamer is an image of the past.
Women are some of the strongest, most creative, most intelligent gamers out there and we are proving it.
Female gamers are taking gaming titles all around the planet. Not because some enamored guy gave it to us, but because we TOOK it.
There are now all girl guilds, and teams all across the world competing and kicking guy's asses in every type of game.
There are many guilds embracing women in leadership roles, guildmaster and raid-leader.
Not only are we playing the games we are making the games. I myself have been in the industry for many years, and have had to fight constantly for recognition from my peers just for being a woman in what they precieve as a man's world.
The image that if we are a girl gamer we must be old, fat, and married to a " REAL " gamer is another conception that just makes me want to scream. Yes I am in my 30's, yes I am married to a gamer and dev, but I am not fat, I am not a cat-lady, and I have NEVER been carried a day in my life.
I have run the full gambit of gaming over the past 20 some odd years, from my brother forcing me to be the damsel in distress for his old pencil and paper D & D games when I was little, to guildleader of a 200 member pk guild , to CS guide, to GM, to concept artist, to dreamer of the future of gaming.
Women are here, and we aren't going anywhere.
I think when people think of girls in gaming Stevie Case epitomizes the face they should be seeing. She is the image of the modern gaming girl.
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Don't respond with discomfort, or embarrassment. Respond with assertive power, and take action with other responsible people in a reasoned and organized and dispassionate way. Women for ages have had to learn to deal with similar issues in the workplace, and we've found that cringing or having hysterics in the face of gender manipulation doesn't work. We've found that broadcasting the bad behavior, when we can, tends to stop the problem. I just think those tactics would be effective here.
However, most guys won't do that, because they feel uncomfortable (for whatever reasons -- admitting they've been had, or whatever) saying, "This behavior is unacceptable." If a woman playing a woman is manipulating you, or a man playing a woman is manipulating you, they are bad players in the traditional sense of that term. It has nothing to do with their gender, and it has everything to do with their perception of your vulnerability to being manipulated. What I'm saying is, don't be vulnerable to predatory behaviors. Push back. This is not about "all women are like..." or "all guys who play chicks are like..." or "all gays are like..." This is about "I am part of a culture which needs to be changed which sets guys up to be vulnerable to manipulation, and I won't play that game so it won't be perpetuated."
Just make sure people won't put up with it. Treat it like kill stealing or some other social pathology online. But don't treat it as *more* than an individual piece of bad behavior. Don't treat it as something that reflects badly on women or guys playing women or gays -- most of those folks don't do this. It's just someone being a jerk.
Yrs,
Shava
I find this article outrageous and sexist. Women are the only people who can come up with interesting names? Women are the only ones who care what their outfits look like? I agree that stupid names are dead givaways and that likewise silly speech is also, but this article is way too ridiculous and stereotypical.
I am filled with rage.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
I never ask for anything, and if anyone asks, I tell them I am a male.
Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com
Anyone who gives women free stuff in a MMO just because they are female is an idiot, and the people posing should get everything they want.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
But you do know that anytime someone even broaches the subject of gender and gaming, some people will have strong emotional reactions. Honestly, I find this subject fascinating.
I felt this write up was well intended yet the limited "MMO" experiance of the writter and stereo-typical views seem more attuned to a 12-14 year old.
There's been no MMO to date that rewards dancing with EXP!?!? I wonder if the greatest online gaming conspiracy of all time (SOE/LA defrauding the subscriber base with the "new game enhancements") had wiped away any memory of the Entertainer in Star Wars Galaxies; pre-cu was the best MMO created besides SOE failing to develop any content.
Sorry, the write up was a fun read although very untrue in the real mmo realms, unless it was specifically written with WoW in mind.
edited: Some of the best gamers I know are female players. I'd say they are actually a majority in terms of quality gamers.
LOL good tongue-in-cheek article for a smile
What wasnt mentioned though was the reaction of other rl females to other rl females.Some of them are horrible to the other female toon simply because shes a female toon. Mayhaps a bit of territorial jealousy? LOL dunno, all I know is I have experienced out and out hostility from other female toons towards my female toon. The same other female will treat my male toon with sugar.
Also before any gets the idea that I am obese and ugly, you have no idea. I tip the scales at a massive 430 pounds and I am a tall 4 foot 3 inch land man. I am like a dwarf with fat flaps that he uses when he spins, they are like extra concussive skills. All people who want to fight me do so with caution as I wobble with a mean heavy breath of doritos and pepsi.
Any girls in EQ2 come to me for free plat, woohoooo!!!!
Be cool to people, and try and stay cool that way you never have to regret making someone feel bad. Don't take what ya got granted because some people never get to feel happy. We get to play these great MMOs and surf a good site. Be thankful for what ya got and next time ya feel down imagine a fat sea otter waddling with a pillow and a night cap. Bam! smiles!
Toons with the largest bust size are almost always male players. It is really that simple.
"Hurray, finally a game where I can fulfill my lifelong dream of taking emotionally dead women and finding the most financially viable means to exploit their bodies with the ultimate goal of making them Hugh Hefner's personal furniture."
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MMOs played-> UO: AoS, L2, GW, GW: F, HO, SoF, ToP
...Pika
Hmmm where to start.
As a girl gamer I kinda feel as if this whole article was written just to get a rise from girl gamers.
Well you succeded.
It's rare that I find myself so pissed over something I read here that I find myself for a lack of words to phrase my response, yet strangely that's where I find myself at the moment.
~ slow deep breaths ~
As mentioned in another post, it seems to be slanted very heavily towards World of Warcraft. MMOs have existed since the mid 90s with Meridian 59. I know a lot of new people are coming to see this part of the industry exists, but doing a bit of research before writing up an article gives a person much more credibility. As it stands now, I will be scrutinizing any future content from this particular author until I can honestly believe she properly prepares her articles with adequate research.
Up to the point of mentioning no experience for dancing in an MMO, it started out somewhat interesting. Although, this topic has horribly been done to death both through articles and on so many forum posts.
Hold your horses there this wasn't written by a woman, no self respecting woman would ever right such total donkey-piss and try and pass it off as an editorial.
Hold your horses there this wasn't written by a woman, no self respecting woman would ever right such total donkey-piss and try and pass it off as an editorial.
Not bashing you or anything....but it was written by a woman. Yeah...I had to re-read the header of the article cause I thought a guy wrote it. (that is not to imply that a guy would exclusive write a bad article like this!)<---a woman btw
Hold your horses there this wasn't written by a woman, no self respecting woman would ever right such total donkey-piss and try and pass it off as an editorial.
Not bashing you or anything....but it was written by a woman. Yeah...I had to re-read the header of the article cause I thought a guy wrote it.<---a woman btw I as well had to double check before I hit Post Message the first time.
It's not often I am incensed to reply, I prefer mostly to read and learn, but I just had to add my 2 pennies worth here.
Seems to me the author has no idea what girl gamers do or don't do. Yes there are many fake girls out there, but reading this article is not going to help anyone spot them!
Amen.
I have rolled numerous male and female toons. I do it so that all my toons don't look similar. But I don't do it to take advantage of anyone. And if people ask me if i am a girl i tell them I am a dude. There is nothing wrong with a female rolling male either. MMORPGs are made to have fun not to pick up on people. If you are looking to date someone stop complaining about males rolling female, shut off the game, leave your house and go somewhere were you actually might meet someone.
Sigh god that infuriates me even more to realize a fellow female gamer would stoop to the second class gamer mentality.
I guess it's time to get bare knuckles here.
The FACE of Online gaming is changing.
It's time for the players to sit up and take notice as the industry has been.
The hard fact is out that women are taking over the online gaming scene. EVERYWHERE you look the statics show women now outnumber men in online gaming.
The image of the weak, lost, incompetent female gamer is an image of the past.
Women are some of the strongest, most creative, most intelligent gamers out there and we are proving it.
Female gamers are taking gaming titles all around the planet. Not because some enamored guy gave it to us, but because we TOOK it.
There are now all girl guilds, and teams all across the world competing and kicking guy's asses in every type of game.
There are many guilds embracing women in leadership roles, guildmaster and raid-leader.
Not only are we playing the games we are making the games. I myself have been in the industry for many years, and have had to fight constantly for recognition from my peers just for being a woman in what they precieve as a man's world.
The image that if we are a girl gamer we must be old, fat, and married to a " REAL " gamer is another conception that just makes me want to scream. Yes I am in my 30's, yes I am married to a gamer and dev, but I am not fat, I am not a cat-lady, and I have NEVER been carried a day in my life.
I have run the full gambit of gaming over the past 20 some odd years, from my brother forcing me to be the damsel in distress for his old pencil and paper D & D games when I was little, to guildleader of a 200 member pk guild , to CS guide, to GM, to concept artist, to dreamer of the future of gaming.
Women are here, and we aren't going anywhere.
I think when people think of girls in gaming Stevie Case epitomizes the face they should be seeing. She is the image of the modern gaming girl.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2004/Jan04/01-08WomenGamers.mspx
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061006-7922.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/11/11/DDGAPMAD8G1.DTL&feed=rss.entertainment
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-07-2005/0003338769&EDATE=
These are just a few of the thousands of links out there addressing the rise of women in and behind online gaming..