Basicly dev/GM had to join the a corp,make himself leader etc. because it was the only way to fix a bug with their POS.Afew of the members of the corp didnt know what it was about and reported it,the report got deleted cause presumably some people from the corp requested help.Also if you havent played eve for more than 2 weeks you should keep any conspiracy theories to yourself (not trying to offend anyone).
Out of all of the MMO's out and that have ever existed... i have NEVER heard of a Dev or a GM goin into someones guild/corp, make themselves leader of said guild/corp just to fix a bug??? I call Shenannigans (sp?) on this... Dev's are suppose to have the knowledge and the software to fix such bugs without doing anything of that sort.
Please someone correct me if i'm wrong about this.
If a dm/gm needet to steal from a corp they coud, if they whanted to read your mails they coud.
If a dev spotted a bug they are allowed to fix it, they dont need a player saying "okay you can fix the bug" to do it.
But he wasn't there to fix a bug, because there was no bug report, and nothing that was bugged in the corp he joined. And again, fixing a bug doesn't require hijacking a guild. If it does, then CCP has to develop better tools.
I'm also getting pretty tired of this blaming the goons for everything thats wrong. The goons aren't destroying EVE. BoB is destroying EVE, and CCP is allowing EVE to be destroyed because they just can't admit that :
MMO DEVS + HELPING YOUR FRIENDS = BAD GAME.
__________________________ "Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it." --Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints." --Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls." --Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Basicly dev/GM had to join the a corp,make himself leader etc. because it was the only way to fix a bug with their POS.Afew of the members of the corp didnt know what it was about and reported it,the report got deleted cause presumably some people from the corp requested help.Also if you havent played eve for more than 2 weeks you should keep any conspiracy theories to yourself (not trying to offend anyone).
Out of all of the MMO's out and that have ever existed... i have NEVER heard of a Dev or a GM goin into someones guild/corp, make themselves leader of said guild/corp just to fix a bug??? I call Shenannigans (sp?) on this... Dev's are suppose to have the knowledge and the software to fix such bugs without doing anything of that sort.
Please someone correct me if i'm wrong about this.
If a dm/gm needet to steal from a corp they coud, if they whanted to read your mails they coud.
If a dev spotted a bug they are allowed to fix it, they dont need a player saying "okay you can fix the bug" to do it.
Ok... you are either drunk, tired, or have a shitty keyboard. you didnt get my point.
My point was that No dev that i am aware of should have went into a guild/corp with an outside character that wasnt labeled GM to fix a bug. i'm fully aware that they can do whatever they want to as to reading mail and taking stuff. but as to joining a corp making themselves leader and then fixing said "bug"... not right.
i like the comfort of blizzard statemant and other trusted mmo's that i cant think of atm. "Remember... Blizzard will NEVER ask you for your password"
the dev have a tool website where they can interface with eve and do stuf™
in game they have slash command to port move players ect
How ever they can find a bug and need to join a corp get direktor rights in order to fix and leave again
Bad thing about stuff like this, is once a dev team loses the trust of the player base when it comes to cheating and what not its almost impossible to get back.
Why? Cause they make the rules, they have the logs, and only have to tell us what they want to tell us.
Did they announce these things? Sure... after it was brought to light... wonder how many other things are hiding in the nasty secret closets?
I don't mean to pry, but can you get CS and Devs on MSN?
The reason I say this is that BoB has been saying to us all night how their four years of playing gives them the right to contact CS, ISD, and Devs by MSN instant messenger whenever they feel like it.
__________________________ "Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it." --Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints." --Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls." --Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Basicly dev/GM had to join the a corp,make himself leader etc. because it was the only way to fix a bug with their POS.Afew of the members of the corp didnt know what it was about and reported it,the report got deleted cause presumably some people from the corp requested help.Also if you havent played eve for more than 2 weeks you should keep any conspiracy theories to yourself (not trying to offend anyone).
Out of all of the MMO's out and that have ever existed... i have NEVER heard of a Dev or a GM goin into someones guild/corp, make themselves leader of said guild/corp just to fix a bug??? I call Shenannigans (sp?) on this... Dev's are suppose to have the knowledge and the software to fix such bugs without doing anything of that sort.
Please someone correct me if i'm wrong about this.
I dont know anything about this specific case, but when we lost our guildleader who dissapeared in World of Warcraft without notice, we submitted a ticket, a GM then made themselves member and then guildmaster. He then asked who wanted to be guildmaster and promoted that one to guildmaster. Then he asked if all was ok and first guildquit our guild and then logged off. After that we had an active guildleader again, all thanks to a GM who made himself guildmaster.
Basicly dev/GM had to join the a corp,make himself leader etc. because it was the only way to fix a bug with their POS.Afew of the members of the corp didnt know what it was about and reported it,the report got deleted cause presumably some people from the corp requested help.Also if you havent played eve for more than 2 weeks you should keep any conspiracy theories to yourself (not trying to offend anyone).
Out of all of the MMO's out and that have ever existed... i have NEVER heard of a Dev or a GM goin into someones guild/corp, make themselves leader of said guild/corp just to fix a bug??? I call Shenannigans (sp?) on this... Dev's are suppose to have the knowledge and the software to fix such bugs without doing anything of that sort.
Please someone correct me if i'm wrong about this.
I dont know anything about this specific case, but when we lost our guildleader who dissapeared in World of Warcraft without notice, we submitted a ticket, a GM then made themselves member and then guildmaster. He then asked who wanted to be guildmaster and promoted that one to guildmaster. Then he asked if all was ok and first guildquit our guild and then logged off. After that we had an active guildleader again, all thanks to a GM who made himself guildmaster.
Yes, but you had a real problem there that only a GM could solve. There was no problem in the EVE case that needed a Dev to solve.
You requested that the GM come help you. The Dev in the EVE case came in uninvited.
The GM informed you what he was doing at every step. The Dev in the EVE case refused all communication, and deleted all tickets asking for clarification.
The GM asked your permission to do what you needed done. The Dev in the EVE case just barged in and hijacked the corp without any permission.
So yes, the GM in your case did what he did because it was the best way to solve your problem. That's not the case with the EVE Dev, who was there to cause problems.
__________________________ "Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it." --Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints." --Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls." --Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Hacker>normal player base>Goons>DEV faggot trying to ruin the game
the level of trust is in that order
Corrected.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
Apparently you guys have no idea how cheats work when it pertains to MMORPGs. If the QA Person wanted to cheat he would force alot of really nice items on players (since all items have an item ID and there is a command to force items on players) and send them a Ton of ISK (there is also a cheat to instantly create a lot of money). Then he could godmode and dump a nice deathtouch on players in a POS.
I think it's funny how people are freaking out and think that you can actually ONLY get something soley out of making someone a Corp Leader. There are much more discreet way's of helping players cheat than making something that public. Litterally there is nothing a DEV, GM, or QA person can do inside a corp that they can't do outside of one, with the exception of checking specific player functionality to root out a bug.
Now as far as the idea of some people's money going farther. There are many instances in EQII where guilds are taken through raids with developers to check for balancing issues, and any bugs that may arise from a normal guild attempting a raid instance. Of course this kind of treatment is for people that developers can properly use for said balancing. If you want to balance something to be challenging for the most skilled players, you don't get a bunch of PUG players, you get the best guild you can find.
Same with CCP, BoB always has members in every aspect of the game just about all the time. They are the best Alliance, and group of corporations to balance things around, and the best candidates that would find bugs. Seriously get over it. More,
Well in the truth game so far it's atleast Hackers: 1, CCP: 0. Since when CCP deny something they don't provide any more hard evidence than the hackers, except for the occasions when the hackers do provide hard evidence and CCP admits to as little as possible then forms their own DEV police force. Bit like Al Capone forming his own police force to prevent protection rackets and illegal booze!
So far CCP have failed to provide one iota of evidence in their favour concerning all the accusations over the last 3-4 years. The only time they actually come up with something is when it's an admission, this guy has an accusation and many witnesses that back up his story. CCP have only retaliated with the gag and ban button then brought down the forums to censor it rather than proving their innocence with logs and their own witnesses. And yes they need to prove they're innocent if they are, because they run a business and profits depend on the trust of the consumer.
CCP are probably ihn a meeting now trying to hammer out some BS response since the "bugged POS" line didn't work, due to the fact that they had no bugged POS and didn't request a DEV/GM to fix a non-existant POS. Maybe GS are lying? Well they seem to be putting alot of effort into it and ofcourse there's no way they'll profit by it wether they're wrong or right. Rigged story arcs, that's been common knowledge amongst vets for a long time. BoB using DEVs to prop them up, common knowledge amongst vets fighting in the big 0.0 alliances. If you don't want to believe it then fine, in a court of law it's "Innocent until proven guilty" but this isn't a court of law and CCP lost that luxury after the T20 case.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
Well in the truth game so far it's atleast Hackers: 1, CCP: 0. Since when CCP deny something they don't provide any more hard evidence than the hackers, except for the occasions when the hackers do provide hard evidence and CCP admits to as little as possible then forms their own DEV police force. Bit like Al Capone forming his own police force to prevent protection rackets and illegal booze! So far CCP have failed to provide one iota of evidence in their favour concerning all the accusations over the last 3-4 years. The only time they actually come up with something is when it's an admission, this guy has an accusation and many witnesses that back up his story. CCP have only retaliated with the gag and ban button then brought down the forums to censor it rather than proving their innocence with logs and their own witnesses. And yes they need to prove they're innocent if they are, because they run a business and profits depend on the trust of the consumer. CCP are probably ihn a meeting now trying to hammer out some BS response since the "bugged POS" line didn't work, due to the fact that they had no bugged POS and didn't request a DEV/GM to fix a non-existant POS. Maybe GS are lying? Well they seem to be putting alot of effort into it and ofcourse there's no way they'll profit by it wether they're wrong or right. Rigged story arcs, that's been common knowledge amongst vets for a long time. BoB using DEVs to prop them up, common knowledge amongst vets fighting in the big 0.0 alliances. If you don't want to believe it then fine, in a court of law it's "Innocent until proven guilty" but this isn't a court of law and CCP lost that luxury after the T20 case.
I'll agree that CCP does need to work on their PR. But, lets just say, coming from an MMO QA person. You will NEVER know when an exploitable bug or exploit is rooted up. You will NEVER get the details on it, and you will NEVER be satisfied. You will simply get the response. "We were researching an exploitable bug found by members of X." Hell you may not even get that, the PR fallout from that line alone would have people raving "Why weren't they banned for exploiting! CCP is playing favorites again!".
Seriously when it comes to bugs and exploits, there is no good PR line, people will make it into whatever they want, and CCP won't win. Which is exactly why they refuse to respond.
Agricola might be tha hacker,tinfoil hat time !!!.You seem to be determined in seeing CCP go down.Have you ever wandered about blizzard that they might be hand in hand with gold sellers,blizzard sells gold online,than removes the accounts saying "Yee we dealt with dem nastyez!!".It is possible even if blizzard makes +7mil per month,they can pull off another 1mil by using gold farming accounts...you know what im going to go on a vendetta and unveil blizzard for who they are. /sarcasm offline
I don't mean to pry, but can you get CS and Devs on MSN?
The reason I say this is that BoB has been saying to us all night how their four years of playing gives them the right to contact CS, ISD, and Devs by MSN instant messenger whenever they feel like it.
Like I said: some people's $15 are better than other people's $15.
No, I cannot get CS or the developers on the horn because I was always critiqued EVE due to it's control scheme. Besides all other things.
It sounds like what the russians called Soviet during the communist era, CCCP.
And it's not all that good when adults doesn't have the morals that they are supposed to have been given by their parents and more so when it comes to a company and not just individuals playing a game.
A quick update .. CCP are running their usual containment procedure for these events .. allowing the community to vent on a forum post in they're information portal. The thread has ballooned to 74 pages, at the time of this posting. There's no response from CCP's internal affairs other than containment atm.
I would hope that developers of other PvP based mmo's pay close attention to this affair as they can take valuable lessons from CCP's performance and ethos with regard to staff playing in a highly competitive arena. With the emrgance of more PvP-centric mmos it is clear to me that the reputation of the companies running mmo's will be more and more important.
To those that do not enjoy PvP, surely the drama of this whole affair can't pass you by? How can you resist the pull of such happenings and favour PvE systems as they exist in contemporary mmos? haha!
I say we all need to wait and see what happens, not bring up all this drama and hate. I would say something has been happening but no one can be positive. I also would say that people should stay clam and try to understand that maybe the guy was doing it to fix a bug. I have learned that in pvp when two hated guilds go at it they start rumors. I also have learned that these rumors can be terrible and even personal attacks. I would go on even further and say it causes tons of drama.
I remember a time when person in Ragnarok Online got banned. I think her name was Melancholy or something along those lines. She got banned and they said she was using bots. The story goes she traded with a character who gave her tons of boots. She was insanely rich on the game and had a huge guild. Well she got banned and then it exploded into a giant attack on the game and gms. She was popular so tons of people said the GM's banned her so they could have her items. I have heard some dumb things but it took the cake. The girl had money that hardly no one else had, she was found trading mass amounts of items from a bot. She hacked and she knew it and she got banned for it and everyone tried to say she didn't. Due to that quite a few people left Ragnarok Online when they were manipulated by that woman. I say we wait to see who is manipulating the people behind this.
I say people need to be more calm and start trying to think things out instead of throwing blame and hate. It is like when MMORPG.com does a review that people don't agree with they scream that MMORPG.com is paid off and they wont post here anymore. I am tired of this start a war with anyone who does not have your opinion or does something you don't like.
Just calm down and wait for the real story to come out before going on the witch hunt.
Be cool to people, and try and stay cool that way you never have to regret making someone feel bad. Don't take what ya got granted because some people never get to feel happy. We get to play these great MMOs and surf a good site. Be thankful for what ya got and next time ya feel down imagine a fat sea otter waddling with a pillow and a night cap. Bam! smiles!
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Please someone correct me if i'm wrong about this.
If a dm/gm needet to steal from a corp they coud, if they whanted to read your mails they coud.
If a dev spotted a bug they are allowed to fix it, they dont need a player saying "okay you can fix the bug" to do it.
But he wasn't there to fix a bug, because there was no bug report, and nothing that was bugged in the corp he joined. And again, fixing a bug doesn't require hijacking a guild. If it does, then CCP has to develop better tools.
I'm also getting pretty tired of this blaming the goons for everything thats wrong. The goons aren't destroying EVE. BoB is destroying EVE, and CCP is allowing EVE to be destroyed because they just can't admit that :
MMO DEVS + HELPING YOUR FRIENDS = BAD GAME.
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Please someone correct me if i'm wrong about this.
If a dm/gm needet to steal from a corp they coud, if they whanted to read your mails they coud.
If a dev spotted a bug they are allowed to fix it, they dont need a player saying "okay you can fix the bug" to do it.
Ok... you are either drunk, tired, or have a shitty keyboard. you didnt get my point.My point was that No dev that i am aware of should have went into a guild/corp with an outside character that wasnt labeled GM to fix a bug. i'm fully aware that they can do whatever they want to as to reading mail and taking stuff. but as to joining a corp making themselves leader and then fixing said "bug"... not right.
i like the comfort of blizzard statemant and other trusted mmo's that i cant think of atm. "Remember... Blizzard will NEVER ask you for your password"
the dev have a tool website where they can interface with eve and do stuf™
in game they have slash command to port move players ect
How ever they can find a bug and need to join a corp get direktor rights in order to fix and leave again
A direktor isnt the leader.
a CEO is
**grabs popcorn and gets comfy**
Bad thing about stuff like this, is once a dev team loses the trust of the player base when it comes to cheating and what not its almost impossible to get back.
Why? Cause they make the rules, they have the logs, and only have to tell us what they want to tell us.
Did they announce these things? Sure... after it was brought to light... wonder how many other things are hiding in the nasty secret closets?
I don't mean to pry, but can you get CS and Devs on MSN?
The reason I say this is that BoB has been saying to us all night how their four years of playing gives them the right to contact CS, ISD, and Devs by MSN instant messenger whenever they feel like it.
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Please someone correct me if i'm wrong about this.
I dont know anything about this specific case, but when we lost our guildleader who dissapeared in World of Warcraft without notice, we submitted a ticket, a GM then made themselves member and then guildmaster. He then asked who wanted to be guildmaster and promoted that one to guildmaster. Then he asked if all was ok and first guildquit our guild and then logged off. After that we had an active guildleader again, all thanks to a GM who made himself guildmaster.
Please someone correct me if i'm wrong about this.
I dont know anything about this specific case, but when we lost our guildleader who dissapeared in World of Warcraft without notice, we submitted a ticket, a GM then made themselves member and then guildmaster. He then asked who wanted to be guildmaster and promoted that one to guildmaster. Then he asked if all was ok and first guildquit our guild and then logged off. After that we had an active guildleader again, all thanks to a GM who made himself guildmaster.
Yes, but you had a real problem there that only a GM could solve. There was no problem in the EVE case that needed a Dev to solve.
You requested that the GM come help you. The Dev in the EVE case came in uninvited.
The GM informed you what he was doing at every step. The Dev in the EVE case refused all communication, and deleted all tickets asking for clarification.
The GM asked your permission to do what you needed done. The Dev in the EVE case just barged in and hijacked the corp without any permission.
So yes, the GM in your case did what he did because it was the best way to solve your problem. That's not the case with the EVE Dev, who was there to cause problems.
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
I do not play EVE , although i think it is a great game. And surely i do not care for BOB winning or not.
But all this banning people accounts , trying to cower up things ...
This allready borders with illegal .
In my oppinion it is pass time for CCP to sort things out. They obviously dont want to.
I think they should be penalised for this
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
No the hacker is on a vendeta since they banned him when he started hacking Goon's and D2's forum, he is on his epic mission to bring ccp down.
but hey feel free to support hackers but dont come crying when ever you have server that dos'ed or other fun stuf done to it since you support them
Apparently you guys have no idea how cheats work when it pertains to MMORPGs. If the QA Person wanted to cheat he would force alot of really nice items on players (since all items have an item ID and there is a command to force items on players) and send them a Ton of ISK (there is also a cheat to instantly create a lot of money). Then he could godmode and dump a nice deathtouch on players in a POS.
I think it's funny how people are freaking out and think that you can actually ONLY get something soley out of making someone a Corp Leader. There are much more discreet way's of helping players cheat than making something that public. Litterally there is nothing a DEV, GM, or QA person can do inside a corp that they can't do outside of one, with the exception of checking specific player functionality to root out a bug.
Now as far as the idea of some people's money going farther. There are many instances in EQII where guilds are taken through raids with developers to check for balancing issues, and any bugs that may arise from a normal guild attempting a raid instance. Of course this kind of treatment is for people that developers can properly use for said balancing. If you want to balance something to be challenging for the most skilled players, you don't get a bunch of PUG players, you get the best guild you can find.
Same with CCP, BoB always has members in every aspect of the game just about all the time. They are the best Alliance, and group of corporations to balance things around, and the best candidates that would find bugs. Seriously get over it.
More,
Well in the truth game so far it's atleast Hackers: 1, CCP: 0. Since when CCP deny something they don't provide any more hard evidence than the hackers, except for the occasions when the hackers do provide hard evidence and CCP admits to as little as possible then forms their own DEV police force. Bit like Al Capone forming his own police force to prevent protection rackets and illegal booze!
So far CCP have failed to provide one iota of evidence in their favour concerning all the accusations over the last 3-4 years. The only time they actually come up with something is when it's an admission, this guy has an accusation and many witnesses that back up his story. CCP have only retaliated with the gag and ban button then brought down the forums to censor it rather than proving their innocence with logs and their own witnesses. And yes they need to prove they're innocent if they are, because they run a business and profits depend on the trust of the consumer.
CCP are probably ihn a meeting now trying to hammer out some BS response since the "bugged POS" line didn't work, due to the fact that they had no bugged POS and didn't request a DEV/GM to fix a non-existant POS. Maybe GS are lying? Well they seem to be putting alot of effort into it and ofcourse there's no way they'll profit by it wether they're wrong or right. Rigged story arcs, that's been common knowledge amongst vets for a long time. BoB using DEVs to prop them up, common knowledge amongst vets fighting in the big 0.0 alliances. If you don't want to believe it then fine, in a court of law it's "Innocent until proven guilty" but this isn't a court of law and CCP lost that luxury after the T20 case.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
I'll agree that CCP does need to work on their PR. But, lets just say, coming from an MMO QA person. You will NEVER know when an exploitable bug or exploit is rooted up. You will NEVER get the details on it, and you will NEVER be satisfied. You will simply get the response. "We were researching an exploitable bug found by members of X." Hell you may not even get that, the PR fallout from that line alone would have people raving "Why weren't they banned for exploiting! CCP is playing favorites again!".
Seriously when it comes to bugs and exploits, there is no good PR line, people will make it into whatever they want, and CCP won't win. Which is exactly why they refuse to respond.
I don't mean to pry, but can you get CS and Devs on MSN?
The reason I say this is that BoB has been saying to us all night how their four years of playing gives them the right to contact CS, ISD, and Devs by MSN instant messenger whenever they feel like it.
Like I said: some people's $15 are better than other people's $15.
No, I cannot get CS or the developers on the horn because I was always critiqued EVE due to it's control scheme. Besides all other things.
What does CCP stand for?
It sounds like what the russians called Soviet during the communist era, CCCP.
And it's not all that good when adults doesn't have the morals that they are supposed to have been given by their parents and more so when it comes to a company and not just individuals playing a game.
Crowd Control Productions
Ah, I see.
And are they good at that?
Aha! So you see the irony in the name too?
Could say it was divine intervention maybe?
-faith chooses no man
A quick update .. CCP are running their usual containment procedure for these events .. allowing the community to vent on a forum post in they're information portal. The thread has ballooned to 74 pages, at the time of this posting. There's no response from CCP's internal affairs other than containment atm.
I would hope that developers of other PvP based mmo's pay close attention to this affair as they can take valuable lessons from CCP's performance and ethos with regard to staff playing in a highly competitive arena. With the emrgance of more PvP-centric mmos it is clear to me that the reputation of the companies running mmo's will be more and more important.
To those that do not enjoy PvP, surely the drama of this whole affair can't pass you by? How can you resist the pull of such happenings and favour PvE systems as they exist in contemporary mmos? haha!
I remember a time when person in Ragnarok Online got banned. I think her name was Melancholy or something along those lines. She got banned and they said she was using bots. The story goes she traded with a character who gave her tons of boots. She was insanely rich on the game and had a huge guild. Well she got banned and then it exploded into a giant attack on the game and gms. She was popular so tons of people said the GM's banned her so they could have her items. I have heard some dumb things but it took the cake. The girl had money that hardly no one else had, she was found trading mass amounts of items from a bot. She hacked and she knew it and she got banned for it and everyone tried to say she didn't. Due to that quite a few people left Ragnarok Online when they were manipulated by that woman. I say we wait to see who is manipulating the people behind this.
I say people need to be more calm and start trying to think things out instead of throwing blame and hate. It is like when MMORPG.com does a review that people don't agree with they scream that MMORPG.com is paid off and they wont post here anymore. I am tired of this start a war with anyone who does not have your opinion or does something you don't like.
Just calm down and wait for the real story to come out before going on the witch hunt.
Be cool to people, and try and stay cool that way you never have to regret making someone feel bad. Don't take what ya got granted because some people never get to feel happy. We get to play these great MMOs and surf a good site. Be thankful for what ya got and next time ya feel down imagine a fat sea otter waddling with a pillow and a night cap. Bam! smiles!
LoL a lot of people who just happened to be getting a subscription lol.
And i notice some of them were saying exactly the same during the last scandal.