Yep there were major discipline issues in the house hold.
#1 the parents spent forever arguing with him. The kid knew he had to be up early, and yet planned to go on a raid knowing that... not the parents fault... stupid kid. The kid threw a fit witch usually means he does that when he doesnt get what he wants and has gotten what he wanted in the past doing so. Kid will continue to do so untill a line is drawn.
#2 Kid has little respect for parents as after he finally got off, he snuck back down and logged in again. Meaning he is either unafraid of his parents giving him consequences or he just doesnt care.
Kids need firm ground rules, and being a parent isnt a democracy.... yes you listen to your kids and try to find out whats important to them, but what a kid thinks is important isnt always whats best for them.
He was asking so nice to play and said please and the mom is just being way to strict and harsh.
That's sarcastic, right?
Well yes and no.
Do you think the mom has any idea how hard it is to set up a 25 man and how long it takes to get it organized and stuff?
He said he never has done it before and he was all excited and the mom must be having pms or that new pmm,
because she was not showing any love or understanding at all.She wasn't even trying to compromise .
Maybe if she let him play a bit more he would listen to her once in a while,instead of demanding he do what he is told all the time.
Sometimes parents need to be understanding and see what maybe important to their child instead of trying to teach them a lesson.
I think the mom needs to watch a few episodes of Shalom in The Home or something.
wow at first i thought you was being sarcastic but now i see you was serious..... you have to be the biggest moron of all time to believe that was even CLOSE to child abuse.and the whole reason their kid is acting like taht is because they let him do what ever he wants WAY too much. the mom for one NEVER even raised her voice and the baby was literally SCREAMING at her. no respect at all for his own mother.thats when the dad stepped in and yelled back a little, VERY little.
Wow! Run away from home because your parents wouldn't let you play World of Warcraft? Wow!
Things sure have changed since I was a kid. If I ran away from home because of something like that my mother not only would be ashamed to be my mother, but she would also tell me not to let the door hit me on the way out.
As to the kid screaming and crying...well it was funny at first and then it was just sad. Very sad.
Do you think the mom has any idea how hard it is to set up a 25 man and how long it takes to get it organized and stuff?
He said he never has done it before and he was all excited and the mom must be having pms or that new pmm,
because she was not showing any love or understanding at all.She wasn't even trying to compromise .
Maybe if she let him play a bit more he would listen to her once in a while,instead of demanding he do what he is told all the time.
Sometimes parents need to be understanding and see what maybe important to their child instead of trying to teach them a lesson.
I think the mom needs to watch a few episodes of Shalom in The Home or something.
No .. the kid needs to go to bed or no wow for him. If it were my kid I'd cancel his wow account and put a parental lock on it until he behaves.. no screaming like a spoiled little pissy brat will change my mind.
LMFAO Supernerd! Just "talking" it out when there's such an INCREDIBLY defensive outcry within the first 5 seconds of it is deserving of a punishment. Sounds to me like the kid is hopelessly addicted. Would you feel the same way if the parents were acting like that if the kid was doing drugs, instead? Do you even know how much that kid plays the game? What if he was starting up a big raid after playing for the vast majority of his waking life that day?
I couldn't handle that for more than about 20 seconds. What a whiner. I'll admit I had my moments when I was younger, but DAMN, I so rarely got like that, and it took a while to get there... No parents are perfect, but god damn, I certainly know when enough is enough.
Haha what a little whining brat. He definitely sounds like he's in his mid-teens and if he is, how pathetic is that. 11 years ago my parents took away my car for 2 weeks, and I didnt whine about it half as bad as this kid. And that was a car! People need to stop babying their kids so much, hell there's no way my parents would have paid 15 bucks a month so that I could play a game online, let alone play it for a long time.
Haha what a little whining brat. He definitely sounds like he's in his mid-teens and if he is, how pathetic is that. 11 years ago my parents took away my car for 2 weeks, and I didnt whine about it half as bad as this kid. And that was a car! People need to stop babying their kids so much, hell there's no way my parents would have paid 15 bucks a month so that I could play a game online, let alone play it for a long time.
Hell back in my days my dad would ask me to go to bed at 10pm .. no 2nd warning.. If I am not in bed by 10:30 he'd be coming at me with a belt... I feel kids nowadays got so pampered and it's like the whole world owes them or something. Bad parenting FTL. The kid's parents in the audio are wayy more than understanding. The mother didn't even once raised her voice and the father was way understanding.
I'm 21, almost 22, and was raised by parents who never raised a hand to me. In fact, I have been treated as though I were an equal to my parents my entire life, not like some subordinate slave like some of you people seem to have been. I never stole from my parents liquor cabinet, hell... I've never even smoked pot, even though I had friends in highschool who did. Why? I attribute it to being treated as a person when I was a child, and being taught respect for these things by a caring, talkative and respectful parent.
Children never learn respect unless a parent gives them a reason to.
And there's a difference between fear and respect. Some of you people seem to have that mixed up.
I had one year - one year - where I stayed up all night on the computer. I never whined about it like that kid, though. I still managed to get all of my schoolwork done and only fell asleep once in class (during Government class in my sophomore year of HS). Once that phase passed, I stopped doing it. I've never had online problems since.
Admittedly, those parents obviously have a problem on their hands, but it probably has more to do with using the television as a babysitter, and being more concerned about their own problems than their children, than anything else.
I'm just glad I grew up the way I did. I had no idea so many people were still living in the dark ages.
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"Give a man a fire, and he is warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he is warm for the rest of his life."
oh jesus, that made my day. I kinda feel sorry for the kid tho.Why? Because he deserves a good thump in the head?
Geez, my parents would have put up with that whining for a whole 1/2 a second. Just the amount of time it would take my dad to get within striking range of me. That's ridiculous! Talk about weak parents.
Haha what a little whining brat. He definitely sounds like he's in his mid-teens and if he is, how pathetic is that. 11 years ago my parents took away my car for 2 weeks, and I didnt whine about it half as bad as this kid. And that was a car! People need to stop babying their kids so much, hell there's no way my parents would have paid 15 bucks a month so that I could play a game online, let alone play it for a long time.
Hell back in my days my dad would ask me to go to bed at 10pm .. no 2nd warning.. If I am not in bed by 10:30 he'd be coming at me with a belt... I feel kids nowadays got so pampered and it's like the whole world owes them or something. Bad parenting FTL. The kid's parents in the audio are wayy more than understanding. The mother didn't even once raised her voice and the father was way understanding. /Agree 100%
And to the kid who said he would run away from home, if I was that kids parents I would PRAY that he would!
Well, I can say honestly that I am addicting to MMORPGs in general. Now, I'm sure if the kid was more responsible about it, because obviously from what the father said "I'm sick of this game" there have been things in the past like this. Personally, if I did that, I'd prolly be sleeping in the garage =(. Of course, I am more responsible when it comes to my MMORPG addiction, I do obey my parents; if they say get off, I get off, no arguing. They still let me play 15 hours straight (during summer) , as long as I'm responsible about and know that I have priorities (work, house-cleaning, etc). Example: I got a hunt on this MMORPG, was so excited but realized that yea, I had to get up early to do important things.
Personally, the parents should have been more harsh; if not the kid's just going to do the same (he reminds me of my cousin). If I was the dad I'd just cut the internet connection to that computer (if it was wireless I'd just take the modem/router off). Honestly, the parents need more control of their kids.
Gaming isn't supposed to be an addiction or whinefest; it's supposed to provide a sense of enjoyment and fun within the mind.
Also, I think there's a difference between child abuse, and parent's needing to step in to do what's best for the kid.
I'm 21, almost 22, and was raised by parents who never raised a hand to me. In fact, I have been treated as though I were an equal to my parents my entire life, not like some subordinate slave like some of you people seem to have been. I never stole from my parents liquor cabinet, hell... I've never even smoked pot, even though I had friends in highschool who did. Why? I attribute it to being treated as a person when I was a child, and being taught respect for these things by a caring, talkative and respectful parent.
Children never learn respect unless a parent gives them a reason to.
And there's a difference between fear and respect. Some of you people seem to have that mixed up.
I had one year - one year - where I stayed up all night on the computer. I never whined about it like that kid, though. I still managed to get all of my schoolwork done and only fell asleep once in class (during Government class in my sophomore year of HS). Once that phase passed, I stopped doing it. I've never had online problems since.
Admittedly, those parents obviously have a problem on their hands, but it probably has more to do with using the television as a babysitter, and being more concerned about their own problems than their children, than anything else.
I'm just glad I grew up the way I did. I had no idea so many people were still living in the dark ages.
Not everyone has such a nice life unfortunately. Not to be rude but it's true. Hell... I don't.
Good grief what a brat. That kid didn't get much spankins as a kid, did he? Yes, I believe that hurting children is the only way to make children obey. I'm proof. I'm not some messed up idiot, either.
Because you represent everyone. I know someone whos dad beat them as a kid and right now he has major issues involving physical contact.
Subjecting severe corporal punishment on your kid is wrong, however that doesn't mean you can't impose other types of punishments. The way I see it that kid on the audio probably got too much free run of the house and is acting like a brat. If he don't wanna go to bed then cancel or put his wow account on hold until he behaves.
That kid sounds around 14 or 15... that age is when they get rebellious and hard headed... i mean... i find it funny the kid cried coz his parent won't let him stay up late to raid karazhan...
The bottom line is that your kids HAVE to be afraid of you, even a little bit. Or they walk all over you. Now no one should hit their child, but a spanking when you're younger does wonders for doing what your parents say. I was spanked as a child, had my mouth washed out with soap (literally) and after that happening to me once, you can be damn sure that it didn't happen again.
To the people who were actually abused by their parents I truly feel sorry for though. No one deserves that sh*t, not even that whiny brat playing WoW.
Good grief what a brat. That kid didn't get much spankins as a kid, did he? Yes, I believe that hurting children is the only way to make children obey. I'm proof. I'm not some messed up idiot, either.
Because you represent everyone. I know someone whos dad beat them as a kid and right now he has major issues involving physical contact.
I'm 21, almost 22, and was raised by parents who never raised a hand to me. In fact, I have been treated as though I were an equal to my parents my entire life, not like some subordinate slave like some of you people seem to have been. I never stole from my parents liquor cabinet, hell... I've never even smoked pot, even though I had friends in highschool who did. Why? I attribute it to being treated as a person when I was a child, and being taught respect for these things by a caring, talkative and respectful parent.
Children never learn respect unless a parent gives them a reason to.
And there's a difference between fear and respect. Some of you people seem to have that mixed up.
I had one year - one year - where I stayed up all night on the computer. I never whined about it like that kid, though. I still managed to get all of my schoolwork done and only fell asleep once in class (during Government class in my sophomore year of HS). Once that phase passed, I stopped doing it. I've never had online problems since.
Admittedly, those parents obviously have a problem on their hands, but it probably has more to do with using the television as a babysitter, and being more concerned about their own problems than their children, than anything else.
I'm just glad I grew up the way I did. I had no idea so many people were still living in the dark ages.
My older brother never got spanked either. But he had a different personality than me as a child. He never did half the stuff I did. He's just more of a laid back guy even in adulthood.
I, on the other hand, always had to test my parents and they pushed back twice as hard. They hardly ever spanked me, but the times I got it, I totally deserved it. Honestly, I think I deserved about 100 more spankings than I got.
You can't take your example as anything more than anecdotal. It has to do with children's personalities more than anything.
And my parents were not still living in the middle ages. That would be someone spanking their child out of frustration, not out of love to make a point. Sometimes a spanking was the only thing that would make an impression on me. It's either that or me get hurt even more by doing something completely dumb.
And as far as the fear goes, yeah I feared my parents when I did something bad. It's what kept me out of trouble!
That kid sounds around 14 or 15... that age is when they get rebellious and hard headed... i mean... i find it funny the kid cried coz his parent won't let him stay up late to raid karazhan...
Really high voice for 15... I would say 13 or 14 though, yeah.
Do you think the mom has any idea how hard it is to set up a 25 man and how long it takes to get it organized and stuff?
He said he never has done it before and he was all excited and the mom must be having pms or that new pmm,
because she was not showing any love or understanding at all.She wasn't even trying to compromise .
Maybe if she let him play a bit more he would listen to her once in a while,instead of demanding he do what he is told all the time.
Sometimes parents need to be understanding and see what maybe important to their child instead of trying to teach them a lesson.
I think the mom needs to watch a few episodes of Shalom in The Home or something.
Are you Serious!? RL > Game always! I don't care how long it takes, if I tell my kids time is up.... they thank their group, appologize for having to leave and they log off period. There is always another time they can run the instance. It was obviously late.
using this same mentality, do you think I could call into work and tell them "I'm going to be late, I just got a group together and can't leave just yet" "PLEASE I HAVE to stay!!". Part of parenting is teaching your children what real life is. If my children ever did that I would cancel their WoW account and forbid the use of the computer from anything other than homework. Hell, my kids aren't even allowed to play video games on weekdays....
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#1 the parents spent forever arguing with him. The kid knew he had to be up early, and yet planned to go on a raid knowing that... not the parents fault... stupid kid. The kid threw a fit witch usually means he does that when he doesnt get what he wants and has gotten what he wanted in the past doing so. Kid will continue to do so untill a line is drawn.
#2 Kid has little respect for parents as after he finally got off, he snuck back down and logged in again. Meaning he is either unafraid of his parents giving him consequences or he just doesnt care.
Kids need firm ground rules, and being a parent isnt a democracy.... yes you listen to your kids and try to find out whats important to them, but what a kid thinks is important isnt always whats best for them.
Well yes and no.
Do you think the mom has any idea how hard it is to set up a 25 man and how long it takes to get it organized and stuff?
He said he never has done it before and he was all excited and the mom must be having pms or that new pmm,
because she was not showing any love or understanding at all.She wasn't even trying to compromise .
Maybe if she let him play a bit more he would listen to her once in a while,instead of demanding he do what he is told all the time.
Sometimes parents need to be understanding and see what maybe important to their child instead of trying to teach them a lesson.
I think the mom needs to watch a few episodes of Shalom in The Home or something.
wow at first i thought you was being sarcastic but now i see you was serious..... you have to be the biggest moron of all time to believe that was even CLOSE to child abuse.and the whole reason their kid is acting like taht is because they let him do what ever he wants WAY too much. the mom for one NEVER even raised her voice and the baby was literally SCREAMING at her. no respect at all for his own mother.thats when the dad stepped in and yelled back a little, VERY little.
Things sure have changed since I was a kid. If I ran away from home because of something like that my mother not only would be ashamed to be my mother, but she would also tell me not to let the door hit me on the way out.
As to the kid screaming and crying...well it was funny at first and then it was just sad. Very sad.
I couldn't handle that for more than about 20 seconds. What a whiner. I'll admit I had my moments when I was younger, but DAMN, I so rarely got like that, and it took a while to get there... No parents are perfect, but god damn, I certainly know when enough is enough.
I'm 21, almost 22, and was raised by parents who never raised a hand to me. In fact, I have been treated as though I were an equal to my parents my entire life, not like some subordinate slave like some of you people seem to have been. I never stole from my parents liquor cabinet, hell... I've never even smoked pot, even though I had friends in highschool who did. Why? I attribute it to being treated as a person when I was a child, and being taught respect for these things by a caring, talkative and respectful parent.
Children never learn respect unless a parent gives them a reason to.
And there's a difference between fear and respect. Some of you people seem to have that mixed up.
I had one year - one year - where I stayed up all night on the computer. I never whined about it like that kid, though. I still managed to get all of my schoolwork done and only fell asleep once in class (during Government class in my sophomore year of HS). Once that phase passed, I stopped doing it. I've never had online problems since.
Admittedly, those parents obviously have a problem on their hands, but it probably has more to do with using the television as a babysitter, and being more concerned about their own problems than their children, than anything else.
I'm just glad I grew up the way I did. I had no idea so many people were still living in the dark ages.
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"Give a man a fire, and he is warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he is warm for the rest of his life."
Geez, my parents would have put up with that whining for a whole 1/2 a second. Just the amount of time it would take my dad to get within striking range of me. That's ridiculous! Talk about weak parents.
Sure, if you support child abuse I guess.
And to the kid who said he would run away from home, if I was that kids parents I would PRAY that he would!
Personally, the parents should have been more harsh; if not the kid's just going to do the same (he reminds me of my cousin). If I was the dad I'd just cut the internet connection to that computer (if it was wireless I'd just take the modem/router off). Honestly, the parents need more control of their kids.
Gaming isn't supposed to be an addiction or whinefest; it's supposed to provide a sense of enjoyment and fun within the mind.
Also, I think there's a difference between child abuse, and parent's needing to step in to do what's best for the kid.
Subjecting severe corporal punishment on your kid is wrong, however that doesn't mean you can't impose other types of punishments. The way I see it that kid on the audio probably got too much free run of the house and is acting like a brat. If he don't wanna go to bed then cancel or put his wow account on hold until he behaves.
They obviously aren't gamers and only prolly only use the internet to pay their bills or something.
His parents probably grew up watching The Brady Bunch and Eight is Enough at nights and couldn't understand what the boy is trying to explain.
Instead of unplugging the computer and making him so upset,they could have said fine you can play as long as you want for tonight.
Tell him he can't play anymore nights this week until Friday night though.
Then wake him up extra early for school and if he's tired tell him that's what he gets.
When he gets home make sure he does homework right away and i bet he wouldnt play WOW this night,he would just goto bed.
If he did try to play again before Friday,unplug the 'puter and hide it in the attic for a month.
To the people who were actually abused by their parents I truly feel sorry for though. No one deserves that sh*t, not even that whiny brat playing WoW.
Spanking=/=Beating
I, on the other hand, always had to test my parents and they pushed back twice as hard. They hardly ever spanked me, but the times I got it, I totally deserved it. Honestly, I think I deserved about 100 more spankings than I got.
You can't take your example as anything more than anecdotal. It has to do with children's personalities more than anything.
And my parents were not still living in the middle ages. That would be someone spanking their child out of frustration, not out of love to make a point. Sometimes a spanking was the only thing that would make an impression on me. It's either that or me get hurt even more by doing something completely dumb.
And as far as the fear goes, yeah I feared my parents when I did something bad. It's what kept me out of trouble!
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Are you Serious!? RL > Game always! I don't care how long it takes, if I tell my kids time is up.... they thank their group, appologize for having to leave and they log off period. There is always another time they can run the instance. It was obviously late.
using this same mentality, do you think I could call into work and tell them "I'm going to be late, I just got a group together and can't leave just yet" "PLEASE I HAVE to stay!!". Part of parenting is teaching your children what real life is. If my children ever did that I would cancel their WoW account and forbid the use of the computer from anything other than homework. Hell, my kids aren't even allowed to play video games on weekdays....
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