Xbox 360 Live MMORPG would OWN!!

none191

I recently got an Xbox 360.  It is awesome.  It is far better than I even imagined it would be.  I also play Xbox 360 Live, and I am starting to enjoy this online gaming more than the MMORPGs; although I like Vanguard's depth.





Any thoughts on an Xbox 360 Live MMO?

deplorable

Originally posted by none191

I recently got an Xbox 360.  It is awesome.  It is far better than I even imagined it would be.  I also play Xbox 360 Live, and I am starting to enjoy this online gaming more than the MMORPGs; although I like Vanguard's depth.





Any thoughts on an Xbox 360 Live MMO?

 

Would have to be an MMO already in development, like "marvel universe online" which is scheduled for the 360, next year sometime.

I doubt they'd start making one now especially for it, if the MMO was specifically designed for a PC without any thought of future console releases.

Microsoft learned from the "True Live Fantasy Online" fiasco about how difficult dealing with MMO developers can be. Although they did bring FFXI on to the 360 but that was mostly because FFXI had been created from the outset with a PS2 port in mind.

Converting that to the 360 was a piece of cake without the need of a lengthy wait.

You will see new MMOs on the 360 though, but you just gotta be patient, luckily there are some really good games coming out for the 360 in Q4 of this year. So the wait won't seem "too" bad

none191

I would love to see an Everquest for Xbox 360 Live but EQ is SOE.





Xbox 360 is really great.  I actually cannot believe how good it is.  I think it could replace gaming on the PC....

Talyn

It's difficult to find, but FFXI is already out for the 360. Funcom is doing Age of Conan and Secret World for 360. Huxley (MMOFPS not RPG) too, and someone mentioned Marvel Universe Online already. It's happening, just be patient.

none191

Originally posted by Talyn
Funcom is doing Age of Conan and Secret World for 360. Huxley (MMOFPS not RPG) too, and someone mentioned Marvel Universe Online already. It's happening, just be patient.

NICE!





Thank you for the information.  I just got Xbox 360 days ago and just got Live.  I think it is a serious competitor to PC MMOs.

impulsebooks

I would love a Mechwarrior MMO on my 360. RVR in 200ton bots, oh yeaah!

charlespayne

i bought my self the 360 on the day it came out it is a good console but then i bought a ps3 on the day it came out and wow it is so much better and you can buy a ps3 mouse and keyboard bluetooth and 360 cant use a mouse so future mmorpg's have a better future on a ps3 then it does on a 360 plus you name a mmo that is made by microsoft.

impulsebooks

You're right, 360 has no mouse but does that mean it can never support one? I ask this because the other day I found a patch on the microsoft website that lets my use the 360 controller on my PC. The plug is USB (unlike the oddly shaped previous xbox controllers) This being so, its not totally impossible that the 360 could recognise a wired usb mouse. Has anyone tried that or even a full qwerty keyboard and mouse?

Gre4t

Originally posted by impulsebooks

You're right, 360 has no mouse but does that mean it can never support one? I ask this because the other day I found a patch on the microsoft website that lets my use the 360 controller on my PC. The plug is USB (unlike the oddly shaped previous xbox controllers) This being so, its not totally impossible that the 360 could recognise a wired usb mouse. Has anyone tried that or even a full qwerty keyboard and mouse?

Not to mention if there is one thing Microsoft knows about, it's software.

JADEDRAG0N

Originally posted by none191

I would love to see an Everquest for Xbox 360 Live but EQ is SOE.





Xbox 360 is really great.  I actually cannot believe how good it is.  I think it could replace gaming on the PC....

If you can paly games like EvE and supreme commander [which you cant because EvE has no plans to go console and the Xbox 360 isant powerfull enough for supreme commander] Then i might start beliving that rash comment.

truenorthbg

In time the 360 Xbox will replace the PC for gaming.  The PC games are too expensive and perform worse on the PC. Microsoft with its power will making gaming mainstream less on the PC and more on the console; this is online MMOs .

charlespayne

how are pc games too expensive when collin mcrae dirt came out on 360 it was 50 pound but on pc 29 pound work that one out.

ChrisMattern

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Originally posted by deplorable

Would have to be an MMO already in development, like "marvel universe online" which is scheduled for the 360, next year sometime.
I doubt they'd start making one now especially for it, if the MMO was specifically designed for a PC without any thought of future console releases.
Microsoft learned from the "True Live Fantasy Online" fiasco about how difficult dealing with MMO developers can be. Although they did bring FFXI on to the 360 but that was mostly because FFXI had been created from the outset with a PS2 port in mind.
Converting that to the 360 was a piece of cake without the need of a lengthy wait.

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I was about to cite FFXI to him, but he did say "Xbox 360 Live MMORPG". While you do need Live Silver to access FFXI, it's not really part of it; Live just acts a portal to PlayOnline.

Chris Mattern

SlickShoes

Originally posted by charlespayne

i bought my self the 360 on the day it came out it is a good console but then i bought a ps3 on the day it came out and wow it is so much better and you can buy a ps3 mouse and keyboard bluetooth and 360 cant use a mouse so future mmorpg's have a better future on a ps3 then it does on a 360 plus you name a mmo that is made by microsoft.

I would love to be able to properly play an MMO on my console but the moment i start using a keybaord and mouse to do it is the moment i start to think why am i not just playing on my PC?

I hope some good MMOs come out on consoles as its a much better way of playing for me but i dont see the point if they are developed for a keybaord and mouse set up and not a controller. With the amount of buttons on a controller nowadays i dont see any reason why they cant do this. The only problem would be typing to chat

impulsebooks

Originally posted by SlickShoes


 
I would love to be able to properly play an MMO on my console but the moment i start using a keybaord and mouse to do it is the moment i start to think why am i not just playing on my PC?
 

My guess is that they will use Microsoft's Chatpad for text and the thumbsticks for pointing... it would certainly be a good way of selling the new addon.

Aseenus

mmos on a console game disgust me, iv always been a pc gamer and thats never gonna change :P

SlickShoes

Originally posted by impulsebooks


 
Originally posted by SlickShoes


 
I would love to be able to properly play an MMO on my console but the moment i start using a keybaord and mouse to do it is the moment i start to think why am i not just playing on my PC?
 

 

My guess is that they will use Microsoft's Chatpad for text and the thumbsticks for pointing... it would certainly be a good way of selling the new addon.

aye thatd be great id be up for that!

 

and i do love PC gaming but i dont always have money to be playing games at the highest spec and at least with consoles your playing the game as it was intended to be played not on minimum settings on your banger of and old laptop : )

Ainshent

Check out "XNA", I believe it to be the future of game development.  Microsoft definetly had their thinking cap on with this one.  You can create games on your PC using the C# programming language and the XNA software development kit (SDK).  You can then port them to the XBOX 360 directly, no altering of the code.  The current package came out in December and a pro kit is to be released this year.  I've been learning C# with Visual C# express and XNA (Both FREE downloads from microsoft)...yes I said free.  I am absolutely amazed at the capabilities of this package.  Check out the links and videos below, they explain it better than I can.  It is pretty new, as time progresses I'm sure we will see MMO games coming out using XNA for both windows and the 360.

REFERENCE:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_XNA

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/xna/default.aspx

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PRk52m2Pl8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4lzFcL4I6I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87ZBU88xBE8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMQ8MQoN8As

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Js5yB1D3Pw

 

http://www.visual3d.net/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNvs8ul7w3U

GreenChaos

Originally posted by Aseenus


mmos on a console game disgust me, iv always been a pc gamer and thats never gonna change :P

Amen brother.   Amen.

PC = Keyboard, mouse, upgradeable hardware, multi purpose

Xbox 360 = unreliable hardware, limited functionality.

truenorthbg

 

Originally posted by GreenChaos


 
Originally posted by Aseenus


mmos on a console game disgust me, iv always been a pc gamer and thats never gonna change :P

 

Amen brother.   Amen.

 

I said the same thing until I got an Xbox 360 and LIVE....

My opinions on the console are forever changed.

 

Edit: Yes. I will definitely be playing an MMO on Xbox 360 LIVE. LOL.

impulsebooks

 

Originally posted by truenorthbg


 I said the same thing until I got an Xbox 360 and LIVE....
My opinions on the console are forever changed.
 
Edit: Yes. I will definitely be playing an MMO on Xbox 360 LIVE. LOL.

 

If programmed right, there's no reason for gameplay to suffer when playing an MMO on the 360. Don't know what the serial interface-modders will do though. 

NakedFury

I really dont think the Xbox 360 as a better choice for mmos. It just, right now, to expensive for gamers. Look at it this way.

 

You will most likely need Gold membership, thats $50 a year, $60 for the mmo(they never lower the price of mmos at retail even if they will still cash up $15 monthly from consumers) ++$15 monthly to play the game.

 

$$$$

your first year with the game would be=180 from fees, 50 for Gold plus 60 for the retail game=$290 in one game. Plus lets say they allow keyboard use and mouse so you will another 30 to 50 bucks for the keyboard.

 

Now you spend $300+ to play that game, while the 360 sure its a good alternative for people with crappy PC its also an expensive one. Also for the 360 you must remember that at any time you can get the Red lights of Doom and that would be over for your 360.

Ozmodan

MMO's and consoles do not a good match make at least with the existing technology.

By the time you spend enough money to upgrade your console, bigger hard disk, keyboard, mouse, more memory you could have bought a nice PC.  Besides the graphics on a PC are much better. 

Trying to play Wow on a 1024x768 screen would be a disaster.

bleyzwun

Phantasy Star Universe isn't a MMORPG (though it's advertised as one) but its still an online rpg for 360. 

severius

Right now there are 2 mmorpgs that are slated for the 360.  Age of Conan and Marvel Universe.  AoC will release this year (unless the date slips) on Oct. 30 then next year will come the 360 version.  Marvel is being developed for both.

The ps3 has The Agency and DC Comics online.

To say that the either one is better than the other is a misnomer.  The Graphics power of the 360 is stronger than that of the ps3 while the ps3's cel processor may be more powerful than the processor of the 360.  Development for the 360 is reportedly far easier than that on the ps3 plus Sony holds a stranglehold over what can be developed and released on it's hardware.

2008 will be a good year for owners of either platform.

Liddokun

Xbox360

- No HDMI support unless you buy the Elite version.

- Playing multiplayer games require you to be subscribed to Xbox Live gold for around $50 bucks a year.

- Online store allows direct games/movies/music download.

- Currently has better game selection.

- Has less exclusive titles (Title exclusivity seems to be at the end).

- XNA is easier to develop for.

- No built in wireless support, but available as option.

- HD-DVD have only limited market penetration.

- Has better 3D graphics rendering architecture and hardware esp with better pixel shaders.

- Supports upgradeable hard drive.

- Supports bluetooth 2.0

- Supports limited backward compatibility and (automatic) upscaler for Xbox games but not DVD.

PS3

- Supports HDMI at 480p/720p/1080i/1080p natively.

- Sony Online Network and @Home allows you to play multiplayer games for FREE.

- Online store allows direct games/movies/music download.

- Low number of released games for now but this will soon change as more next generation games start to mature.

- Holds the most number of exclusive titles (Trends seems to be ending for exclusivity of titles).

- PS3 game development has stricter development guidelines ensuring future compatibility

- Build-in Wireless connection for Wi-Fi. (Supports WPA but not WPA2 encryption).

- Blu-ray DVD seems to be the preferred standard by major labels.

- Has more numbers of PPE or raw processing power.

- Supports upgradeable hard drive.

- Supports bluetooth 2.0

- Supports limited backward compatiblity and (adjustable) upscaler for PS1/PS2 games and DVDs.

Yes both are good machines, 2008 and 2009 will see a fierce competition between the two giants PS3 and Xbox360 and will be a very interesting 2 years for us gamers as a lot of next generation titles will begin to mature. PS3 may have suffered bad publicity from the onset but Sony are by no means far from being out. It seems the past trend of holding exclusive titles are finally at a decline as publishers begin to publish games for multiple platforms. This is good for us gamers but bad for Sony. Still there are many future battles to be fought by these 2 giants and the war hasn't even really started yet.