Negro is not a derogatory term. If it was, why do official institutions for black people use the word negro? Negro league baseball. Negro league hall of fame. United negro college fund. Look up the word negro in other languages. Negro means black in spanish, and portugese. Nero in italian is similar. In latin niger means black. These words existed way before slavery. If people add some extra meaning to a word that means a color then that is their ignorance.
It is a big deal. I am sick and tired of choosing words carefully as to not offend some over-sensative person. Toughen up a bit. I mean no harm.
Did you read my post above yours or missed it?
Between each other they can call themself what they like, for a white person calling them Negros or Nigger is not ok.
You can call people what you like for what I care, but don't try to make it look fine, cause it is not.
Then explain to me why there are official institutions that use this word? UNCF?
As I said what they call their organisation is their business.
They are trying to make that word sound less offensive by adopting it, but still hurts them when it is uttered by a white person.
As I said this is merely an issue white/black not black/black, you didn't have black slave masters calling black people negros while whipping them to death, they were all white.
After slavery was abolished, the Negro word was still used by white people to put black people "in their place" when they tried to be better than white people.
That word is always used by white people to enphisize the white superiority over a black person, to remind them that there were a time when "negros" were treated worse than dogs.
But we could make a simple experiment to find out if black people is offended by the word.
Go to Harlem and try to call a black person Negro or Nigger, then let me know what is the verdict...........obviously if you come out alive.
By the way I am not saying that you are racist if u use the word Negro, but surely you are insensitive, since you can use an English word instead, "Black".
Negro is not a derogatory term. If it was, why do official institutions for black people use the word negro? Negro league baseball. Negro league hall of fame. United negro college fund. Look up the word negro in other languages. Negro means black in spanish, and portugese. Nero in italian is similar. In latin niger means black. These words existed way before slavery. If people add some extra meaning to a word that means a color then that is their ignorance.
It is a big deal. I am sick and tired of choosing words carefully as to not offend some over-sensative person. Toughen up a bit. I mean no harm.
Did you read my post above yours or missed it?
Between each other they can call themself what they like, for a white person calling them Negros or Nigger is not ok.
You can call people what you like for what I care, but don't try to make it look fine, cause it is not.
Then explain to me why there are official institutions that use this word? UNCF?
As I said what they call their organisation is their business.
They are trying to make that word sound less offensive by adopting it, but still hurts them when it is uttered by a white person.
As I said this is merely an issue white/black not black/black, you didn't have black slave masters calling black people negros while whipping them to death, they were all white.
After slavery was abolished, the Negro word was still used by white people to put black people "in their place" when they tried to be better than white people.
That word is always used by white people to enphisize the white superiority over a black person, to remind them that there were a time when "negros" were treated worse than dogs.
But we could make a simple experiment to find out if black people is offended by the word.
Go to Harlem and try to call a black person Negro or Nigger, then let me know what is the verdict...........obviously if you come out alive.
Then it looks to me people are looking for racism where there isn't any.
Negro is not a derogatory term. If it was, why do official institutions for black people use the word negro? Negro league baseball. Negro league hall of fame. United negro college fund. Look up the word negro in other languages. Negro means black in spanish, and portugese. Nero in italian is similar. In latin niger means black. These words existed way before slavery. If people add some extra meaning to a word that means a color then that is their ignorance.
It is a big deal. I am sick and tired of choosing words carefully as to not offend some over-sensative person. Toughen up a bit. I mean no harm.
Did you read my post above yours or missed it?
Between each other they can call themself what they like, for a white person calling them Negros or Nigger is not ok.
You can call people what you like for what I care, but don't try to make it look fine, cause it is not.
Then explain to me why there are official institutions that use this word? UNCF?
As I said what they call their organisation is their business.
They are trying to make that word sound less offensive by adopting it, but still hurts them when it is uttered by a white person.
As I said this is merely an issue white/black not black/black, you didn't have black slave masters calling black people negros while whipping them to death, they were all white.
After slavery was abolished, the Negro word was still used by white people to put black people "in their place" when they tried to be better than white people.
That word is always used by white people to enphisize the white superiority over a black person, to remind them that there were a time when "negros" were treated worse than dogs.
But we could make a simple experiment to find out if black people is offended by the word.
Go to Harlem and try to call a black person Negro or Nigger, then let me know what is the verdict...........obviously if you come out alive.
By the way I am not saying that you are racist if u use the word Negro, but surely you are insensitive, since you can use an English word instead, "Black".
What in the world are you talked about?
Pre and post slavery, negro was an official, and usually polite term to refer to black people. Just as calling them "colored" was, and now such terms are usually considered offensive.
Just as now that PC is taking such a firm foothold, even black is becoming borderline offensive, with the term, "African American", being the now black, or colored. And all previous terminologies being deemed inappropriate.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
Originally posted by gpett Then it looks to me people are looking for racism where there isn't any.
Aye I agree, it is a bit tricky.
It doesn't make sense that you use a word to identify yourself which you don't like others to use.
But I guess it's like when people burn your flag in hate that you want to wave your flag even with more pride.
Probably that's what they are doing by using the word Negro to identify themselves.
Maybe we should be black to know how it feels.
Most of people don't mean to be racist by using that word, but if you ask a black person if they mind to be called Negros by white people, 95% will tell you they wouldn't like it.
Pre and post slavery, negro was an official, and usually polite term to refer to black people. Just as calling them "colored" was, and now such terms are usually considered offensive.
Polite?
Yes I can imagine white slave masters politely calling them Negros so they could not get offended (cup of tea too?).
What's next, slavery never existed?
Do me a favour.
During slavery Negros meant Slaves, that's why using this word for a white person is not right.
Yes it was a polite word. it just means black. Are you ignoring what we are talking about?
Probably you are ignoring in which contest the word was used.
What Negro means doesn't make no difference because during slavery when someone used the word negros, it meant a slave, and that's what actually the word is associated with, not matter the word was actually appropriate at the time (which of course is black in spanish).
Yes it was a polite word. it just means black. Are you ignoring what we are talking about?
Probably you are ignoring in which contest the word was used.
What Negro means doesn't make no difference because during slavery when someone used the word negros, it meant a slave, and that's what actually the word is associated with, not matter the word was actually appropriate at the time (which of course is black in spanish).
No. It meant an african.
Though fact being the majority in American during the time of slavery, were in fact slaves.
But your statement is just as absurd as context for saying that the term "african" is as offensive based on such measures.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
So you choose to deny the true definition of a word and attach another definition. That is your choice and will cause you a lot of problems in life.
It is not my choice, it's what black people feel, when white people call them like that.
And the reasons are what I explained in my previous posts.
You can keep calling black people negros on the basis that it means black in spanish if you like.
But black people don't like to be addressed by white people in this way.
You can keep discussing your point at nauseum, but it won't change those facts.
Exactly my point.
You say black people are getting upset at hearing a word because they think it means something it does not mean. You say they see racism and hate in a word that does not have any racism or hatefull connotation. So, by what you say, black people see racism and hate where sometimes there isn't any.
I remember a few years ago, a politician had to resign because he used the word 'niggardly' in a memo, in its correct usage. The origins of this word have nothing to do with Africa, it's a Norse word used before they had ever seen a black person.
It seems that you can't use this word at all anymore, which is pretty ridiculous. Should we now stop using the phrase 'chink in the armor' because the unrelated reference risks offending the Chinese?
Yes it was a polite word. it just means black. Are you ignoring what we are talking about?
Probably you are ignoring in which contest the word was used.
What Negro means doesn't make no difference because during slavery when someone used the word negros, it meant a slave, and that's what actually the word is associated with, not matter the word was actually appropriate at the time (which of course is black in spanish).
No. It meant an african.
Though fact being the majority in American during the time of slavery, were in fact slaves.
But your statement is just as absurd as context for saying that the term "african" is as offensive based on such measures.
*wades back into thread very carefully*
This thread is getting off the OP's original subject -> "Why White American males and females are against their daughters dating Black American males."
But about this subject of words and names..... this is just from observing.... it seems the negros/blacks/African-Americans/Africans are the ONLY group on the planet who had nothing to do with naming their own selves.
Technically, negro does not mean African because African simply means "owned by Leo Africanus". Before Leo came on the scene there was no place called Africa. The root question is.... what did the original people over there call theirselves before the Europeans came on the scene? And named them nego, negroid, black? Before Leo Africanus came on the scene? And named them after himself?
Europeans named their ownselves. Europa is a beautiful goddess. Whites named theirselves. Caucasians named theirselves. (technically 95% of whites are NOT caucasians, since they are not from that area, were not born in the Caucasus mountains, and have no family from there.)
I remember a few years ago, a politician had to resign because he used the word 'niggardly' in a memo, in its correct usage. The origins of this word have nothing to do with Africa, it's a Norse word used before they had ever seen a black person.
It seems that you can't use this word at all anymore, which is pretty ridiculous. Should we now stop using the phrase 'chink in the armor' because the unrelated reference risks offending the Chinese?
More specifically, the word means cheap or miserly...I still can't believe the stupidity required in order to fire someone for something like that...it would be like a black man being fired for saying that someone HONKED their horn at someone, because the word honked sounds like honkey.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Originally posted by Sawtooth I remember a few years ago, a politician had to resign because he used the word 'niggardly' in a memo, in its correct usage. The origins of this word have nothing to do with Africa, it's a Norse word used before they had ever seen a black person.It seems that you can't use this word at all anymore, which is pretty ridiculous. Should we now stop using the phrase 'chink in the armor' because the unrelated reference risks offending the Chinese?
Actually, it was a staffer for the DC Mayors office. He resigned, before the lynch mob could get him fired. Then after a day or two, the Pro-Black Activists that were calling for his head got made to look like the ignorant douchebags that they are for not having bothered to check the dictionary before hitting the warpath.
If memory serves, he did get his job back after the knuckleheads had their vocab lesson for the day.
All stereotypes are based on a combination of stastitical fact and social misconceptions.
Take the cheerleader stereotype that they are stupid and ditzy.
Most cheerleaders are not the smartest because the smart girls are studying or doing something else like academic bowl. Add this to the fact that people are not as interested in a pretty girl's brain as they are...other things, and you have a stereotype.
This is true in different degrees for all things, like the miserly Jewish person or the lazy Latino. Social and economic factors lead to cultural differences that cause things to be seen in a certain light.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
All stereotypes are based on a combination of stastitical fact and social misconceptions. Take the cheerleader stereotype that they are stupid and ditzy. Most cheerleaders are not the smartest because the smart girls are studying or doing something else like academic bowl. Add this to the fact that people are not as interested in a pretty girl's brain as they are...other things, and you have a stereotype. This is true in different degrees for all things, like the miserly Jewish person or the lazy Latino. Social and economic factors lead to cultural differences that cause things to be seen in a certain light.
Yea! something relevant and poignant. perception or point of view and culture are the biggest differences between the various types of people populating our planet. the concept of race was created (this is my opinion i admit, but i do believe this is true) to create the feeling of superiority between one group and another. it is easier to dislike your neighbors if you believe they are fundamentally different than you.
All stereotypes are based on a combination of stastitical fact and social misconceptions. Take the cheerleader stereotype that they are stupid and ditzy. Most cheerleaders are not the smartest because the smart girls are studying or doing something else like academic bowl. Add this to the fact that people are not as interested in a pretty girl's brain as they are...other things, and you have a stereotype. This is true in different degrees for all things, like the miserly Jewish person or the lazy Latino. Social and economic factors lead to cultural differences that cause things to be seen in a certain light.
Yea! something relevant and poignant. perception or point of view and culture are the biggest differences between the various types of people populating our planet. the concept of race was created (this is my opinion i admit, but i do believe this is true) to create the feeling of superiority between one group and another. it is easier to dislike your neighbors if you believe they are fundamentally different than you.
BAD NECRO! BAD!
let dead threads RIP!
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
my brother is white, and was dating an idian girl (middle east not native). her family did everything from send 5 men to his place to beat him up, sent the girl to california(from pittsburgh), call police on him everytime they were together, though they were both over 18 and consenting adults seeing one another.
they are married now and the family is pretty cool to everyone now but that was insanity and open racism ive never seen before in my life, and if it was whites doing it to someone it would have been all over the news.
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Did you read my post above yours or missed it?
Between each other they can call themself what they like, for a white person calling them Negros or Nigger is not ok.
You can call people what you like for what I care, but don't try to make it look fine, cause it is not.
Then explain to me why there are official institutions that use this word? UNCF?
As I said what they call their organisation is their business.
They are trying to make that word sound less offensive by adopting it, but still hurts them when it is uttered by a white person.
As I said this is merely an issue white/black not black/black, you didn't have black slave masters calling black people negros while whipping them to death, they were all white.
After slavery was abolished, the Negro word was still used by white people to put black people "in their place" when they tried to be better than white people.
That word is always used by white people to enphisize the white superiority over a black person, to remind them that there were a time when "negros" were treated worse than dogs.
But we could make a simple experiment to find out if black people is offended by the word.
Go to Harlem and try to call a black person Negro or Nigger, then let me know what is the verdict...........obviously if you come out alive.
By the way I am not saying that you are racist if u use the word Negro, but surely you are insensitive, since you can use an English word instead, "Black".
Did you read my post above yours or missed it?
Between each other they can call themself what they like, for a white person calling them Negros or Nigger is not ok.
You can call people what you like for what I care, but don't try to make it look fine, cause it is not.
Then explain to me why there are official institutions that use this word? UNCF?
As I said what they call their organisation is their business.
They are trying to make that word sound less offensive by adopting it, but still hurts them when it is uttered by a white person.
As I said this is merely an issue white/black not black/black, you didn't have black slave masters calling black people negros while whipping them to death, they were all white.
After slavery was abolished, the Negro word was still used by white people to put black people "in their place" when they tried to be better than white people.
That word is always used by white people to enphisize the white superiority over a black person, to remind them that there were a time when "negros" were treated worse than dogs.
But we could make a simple experiment to find out if black people is offended by the word.
Go to Harlem and try to call a black person Negro or Nigger, then let me know what is the verdict...........obviously if you come out alive.
Then it looks to me people are looking for racism where there isn't any.
Did you read my post above yours or missed it?
Between each other they can call themself what they like, for a white person calling them Negros or Nigger is not ok.
You can call people what you like for what I care, but don't try to make it look fine, cause it is not.
Then explain to me why there are official institutions that use this word? UNCF?
As I said what they call their organisation is their business.
They are trying to make that word sound less offensive by adopting it, but still hurts them when it is uttered by a white person.
As I said this is merely an issue white/black not black/black, you didn't have black slave masters calling black people negros while whipping them to death, they were all white.
After slavery was abolished, the Negro word was still used by white people to put black people "in their place" when they tried to be better than white people.
That word is always used by white people to enphisize the white superiority over a black person, to remind them that there were a time when "negros" were treated worse than dogs.
But we could make a simple experiment to find out if black people is offended by the word.
Go to Harlem and try to call a black person Negro or Nigger, then let me know what is the verdict...........obviously if you come out alive.
By the way I am not saying that you are racist if u use the word Negro, but surely you are insensitive, since you can use an English word instead, "Black".
What in the world are you talked about?
Pre and post slavery, negro was an official, and usually polite term to refer to black people. Just as calling them "colored" was, and now such terms are usually considered offensive.
Just as now that PC is taking such a firm foothold, even black is becoming borderline offensive, with the term, "African American", being the now black, or colored. And all previous terminologies being deemed inappropriate.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
It doesn't make sense that you use a word to identify yourself which you don't like others to use.
But I guess it's like when people burn your flag in hate that you want to wave your flag even with more pride.
Probably that's what they are doing by using the word Negro to identify themselves.
Maybe we should be black to know how it feels.
Most of people don't mean to be racist by using that word, but if you ask a black person if they mind to be called Negros by white people, 95% will tell you they wouldn't like it.
Polite?
Yes I can imagine white slave masters politely calling them Negros so they could not get offended (cup of tea too?).
What's next, slavery never existed?
Do me a favour.
During slavery Negros meant Slaves, that's why using this word for a white person is not right.
Yes it was a polite word. it just means black. Are you ignoring what we are talking about?
Go to dictionary.com and look it up... it just mentioned black, african, and other descriptions of a race.... nowhere does it mention slavery.
Probably you are ignoring in which contest the word was used.
What Negro means doesn't make no difference because during slavery when someone used the word negros, it meant a slave, and that's what actually the word is associated with, not matter the word was actually appropriate at the time (which of course is black in spanish).
So you choose to deny the true definition of a word and attach another definition. That is your choice and will cause you a lot of problems in life.
It is not my choice, it's what black people feel, when white people call them like that.
And the reasons are what I explained in my previous posts.
You can keep calling black people negros on the basis that it means black in spanish if you like.
But black people don't like to be addressed by white people in this way.
You can keep discussing your point at nauseum, but it won't change those facts.
Probably you are ignoring in which contest the word was used.
What Negro means doesn't make no difference because during slavery when someone used the word negros, it meant a slave, and that's what actually the word is associated with, not matter the word was actually appropriate at the time (which of course is black in spanish).
No. It meant an african.
Though fact being the majority in American during the time of slavery, were in fact slaves.
But your statement is just as absurd as context for saying that the term "african" is as offensive based on such measures.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
Exactly my point.It is not my choice, it's what black people feel, when white people call them like that.
And the reasons are what I explained in my previous posts.
You can keep calling black people negros on the basis that it means black in spanish if you like.
But black people don't like to be addressed by white people in this way.
You can keep discussing your point at nauseum, but it won't change those facts.
You say black people are getting upset at hearing a word because they think it means something it does not mean. You say they see racism and hate in a word that does not have any racism or hatefull connotation. So, by what you say, black people see racism and hate where sometimes there isn't any.
I remember a few years ago, a politician had to resign because he used the word 'niggardly' in a memo, in its correct usage. The origins of this word have nothing to do with Africa, it's a Norse word used before they had ever seen a black person.
It seems that you can't use this word at all anymore, which is pretty ridiculous. Should we now stop using the phrase 'chink in the armor' because the unrelated reference risks offending the Chinese?
Probably you are ignoring in which contest the word was used.
What Negro means doesn't make no difference because during slavery when someone used the word negros, it meant a slave, and that's what actually the word is associated with, not matter the word was actually appropriate at the time (which of course is black in spanish).
No. It meant an african.
Though fact being the majority in American during the time of slavery, were in fact slaves.
But your statement is just as absurd as context for saying that the term "african" is as offensive based on such measures.
*wades back into thread very carefully*
This thread is getting off the OP's original subject -> "Why White American males and females are against their daughters dating Black American males."
But about this subject of words and names..... this is just from observing.... it seems the negros/blacks/African-Americans/Africans are the ONLY group on the planet who had nothing to do with naming their own selves.
Technically, negro does not mean African because African simply means "owned by Leo Africanus". Before Leo came on the scene there was no place called Africa. The root question is.... what did the original people over there call theirselves before the Europeans came on the scene? And named them nego, negroid, black? Before Leo Africanus came on the scene? And named them after himself?
Europeans named their ownselves. Europa is a beautiful goddess. Whites named theirselves. Caucasians named theirselves. (technically 95% of whites are NOT caucasians, since they are not from that area, were not born in the Caucasus mountains, and have no family from there.)
More specifically, the word means cheap or miserly...I still can't believe the stupidity required in order to fire someone for something like that...it would be like a black man being fired for saying that someone HONKED their horn at someone, because the word honked sounds like honkey.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Actually, it was a staffer for the DC Mayors office. He resigned, before the lynch mob could get him fired. Then after a day or two, the Pro-Black Activists that were calling for his head got made to look like the ignorant douchebags that they are for not having bothered to check the dictionary before hitting the warpath.
If memory serves, he did get his job back after the knuckleheads had their vocab lesson for the day.
All stereotypes are based on a combination of stastitical fact and social misconceptions.
Take the cheerleader stereotype that they are stupid and ditzy.
Most cheerleaders are not the smartest because the smart girls are studying or doing something else like academic bowl. Add this to the fact that people are not as interested in a pretty girl's brain as they are...other things, and you have a stereotype.
This is true in different degrees for all things, like the miserly Jewish person or the lazy Latino. Social and economic factors lead to cultural differences that cause things to be seen in a certain light.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
Yea! something relevant and poignant. perception or point of view and culture are the biggest differences between the various types of people populating our planet. the concept of race was created (this is my opinion i admit, but i do believe this is true) to create the feeling of superiority between one group and another. it is easier to dislike your neighbors if you believe they are fundamentally different than you.
Yea! something relevant and poignant. perception or point of view and culture are the biggest differences between the various types of people populating our planet. the concept of race was created (this is my opinion i admit, but i do believe this is true) to create the feeling of superiority between one group and another. it is easier to dislike your neighbors if you believe they are fundamentally different than you.
BAD NECRO! BAD!let dead threads RIP!
I hope some day we can all put aside our racisms and prejudices and just laugh at people
Wait riki your black? roflmao... afro or shaved?
You didn't know I was black?
I did had an afro, but I shaved it about a 2 weeks ago. 
-In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08-
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why's it gotta be a white thing?
my brother is white, and was dating an idian girl (middle east not native). her family did everything from send 5 men to his place to beat him up, sent the girl to california(from pittsburgh), call police on him everytime they were together, though they were both over 18 and consenting adults seeing one another.
they are married now and the family is pretty cool to everyone now but that was insanity and open racism ive never seen before in my life, and if it was whites doing it to someone it would have been all over the news.
Re-Read the author post. It's with my experiences, not just some racial rant. Interesting story though.
-In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08-
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Perhaps it comes down to the difference between, exercising good judgement, clouded judgement, and being judgementle..sp sry