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Why so harsh on Star Wars Galaxies
Darth
Member Posts: 22
Sorry but I am confused as to why Star Wars Galaxies is rated a 7.2 and City of Heroes is rated 8.5 . I have nothing against City of Heroes but it should not be rated higher than SWG (Star Wars Galaxies). Nor should a lot of games that were rated higher than SWG. Personally I think that SWG is the best MMORPG out because of a couple reasons. In MMORPGS I look for: I.) Replayability (How the game can keep me interested) II.) Interaction System (Includes PvP, trading etc.) III.) Creativity (Is this the same ol thing?) IV.) Freedom (How many options the game gives and possibilites of customization). V.) Graphics (Not that important but great graphics is definitly a plus)
Star Wars Galaxies has all of those things and I cannot think of many if hardly any cons for this game. A possible con is that it requires a Supercomputer to receive the full gameplay experience. Which I am not getting now because of my 256 RAM 1.6 ghz cheap good for nuthin #%@! 
, but in a week or two I am gettin a dell laptop fully capable of handling the game. But anyway that is the only con this game really has. Maybe someone who has played City of Heroes ( I have only read about and heard from friends) and Star Wars Galaxies can tell me their opinion of the better game. If not that tell me what game you think is better and why because I honestly think that SWG blows all other MMORPGS away...
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SWG is garbage. The quest are lacking something... what's that called... OH YEAH.. content.
The game is nothing more then a pretty SW screensaver. Every path you take leads you to Jedi which is so broken STILL it's not even funny.
I've watched friends play SWG and I wonder why... I would rather play Shadowbane then this.
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i think a lot of us got turned off to SWG in the beta and the first month or so when we had patches hitting us every day or so that should have been taking care of in beta. also the GM's and customer service didnt respond in anything called a decent time frame, im still waiting for my email to customer service to be answered from 2 weeks after game went live. waited 2 weeks atleast for a GM to respond to my petetion to them never did get an answer or help. so basicaly i got tired of no answers from SOE, and paying to play in a beta, thats my humble opioin why its so trashed. might be other reasons also.
Not only that... it's SOE.
Just like EA... I bought Battlefield:Vietnam... I won't play it untill the new patch comes out... but wait... they are so busy making Battlefield 2, the patch got pushed back... this is just like SOE... they are so busy making other things they tend to "forget" what really needs work and what doesn't.
IMO... EA and SOE... multibillion dollar companies that are worse then Microsoft in this dog eat dog world of software.... at least Microsoft makes patches!
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Star Wars Galaxies has so many things wrong with that game I, personally, do not even know where to start.
I have been tracking Star Wars Galaxies since 2001 and could not wait for the release of the game. I thought Star Wars Galaxies was going to replace EQ as the milestone mmorpg of the second generation.
The game failed in many many arenas.
The biggest thing that personally "urked" me was the total lack of customer service and the wildly rantings and swingings of the nerf bat. Customer Service in Star Wars Galaxies makes the Customer Service in New Jersey's Department of Motor Vehicles look like the world's happiest people.
The content in Star Wars Galaxies, in my opinion, is a complete and utter joke. Yes, the multiple choices of clothing was awesome as was the character creation, but when it came to the meat and potatoes, they served only gravy. I spent 4 hours on Jabba's quest....and for what??? A damn broken fishing Rod (on Tatoinne, no doubt) and a back bedroom area where there's a fake bed and some fake artistic fruit. WoW I am excited....at elast I saw Boba!!! Thats worth the money
Raph Koster, the lead DEV of the game screwed this up big time. He admits there's minimal content as he said the players should make the content. Well, when you have a friend list that is 120 members long and only 2 people are left in that list still playing (including yourself) the player-driven content tends to be crappy at best.
Tons of Player Cities are now deserted, the Holocron camping issue was a nightmare, duping back in September 03 totally screwed up any form of decent economy, and game slowly became Pokemon.
I played from Closed Beta 2 until the release of the player city and vehicle patch then I quit. My wife and I both quit. I became a Padawan do to my incessant grindings and I thought the game would get better...instead it was just worse....now you had to grind even longer to even go forward. Like I said, the best thing about this game was that I got over 1400 US dollars for my acocunt and we bought a very nice Ford Focus with the money as a down payment.
If you want to see more ratings about this game check out the Star Wars Galaxies section here or go to Gamelist then Star War Galaxies then to ratings.
Its pretty common lore on virtually every PC Mag or Site (except for IGN) that Star Wars Galaxies didnt deliver on their product.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
good one Djin but EA and SOE do make patches, just not on what needs fixing, they give a little fluff and say arent we nice
I'll comment on your points in order
1. Replayability - I found the replay of this game seriously lacking. I couldn't not stand playing a profession that nobody wanted the services of (Image Designer)
2. Interaction System - I found this acceptable. The Galactic Civil War kind of blew. There really never became a full blown war
3. Creativity - The only think original I saw was that the game took place in the Star Wars Universe
4. Freedom - This was the only thing that I found a major plus
lol..who cares about the rating? it means nothing!
And EA, not sure how much games they do direct, they finance the development of games, as in battlefield that is made of Digital illusion. So if they dont can make a patch, well..
your right Milu EA doesnt make many games but since they are in charge they tell the companies what to do, check up on EA see how many games didnt make money in first yr and EA said can them. EA wants cash and wants it fast on any game they distrubte or place there name on and players be dammed
Amen to everyone.
Just to comment on EA. I am trying to go to the file section and this is what it's been telling me for the last week.
"Temporarily out of Service. Please check back tomorrow."
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Erm first of all you say you have only read about CoH and never played it.So how can you make a judgement if its better or worse then SWG?Answer is simple you can't.
I played SWG from release to jan. 2004.To be honest i enjoyed it because i have not played a trade skill since 1998 in UO.So it was why i entered SWG.And it does have the best trade skill in any game i think.
After a few months i started getting bored.With over 60 million in the account.Flooded with emails for weapons each time i logged i decided to close shop and try combat and quest.Now thats when i realised that after trade skills there is very little else to do in the game.After getting master pistol then going master commando i was bored silly in under 1 month.
Personally the bugs never bothered me too much despite them been many.In one instance i lost over 5 million Cr worth of rare minerals in a bug and never got it back despite appealing it .
Final nail in the coffin was when SoE greed got to them over the actual intrest of the game and unleashed a hoarde of jedis sending the community into a zombie like state over jedi.Every one and their granny was grinding jedi.
Well we all got our views but CoH is miles more fun then SWG.
Neither game is better.
Can't there be good ol' BBS's? What ever happened to Lord or Usurper? BRE and Tradewars? Lemonade Stand?
Where's all the classics?!
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I think i will return to good old minesweeper
Personally i loved CoH, for about 2 months.
I would log on, go out and kill some stuff, take part in some fun PvP and level up my commando.
Then one day i reached master - YaY i thought.
Then i did some more PvP battles, attacked a few player towns and thought hmm, what next.
Then i realised i had to take my character almost back to the beginning and start all over again!!!
What is the point of having to get 5 professions in order to be a jedi? If you are going to have jedi, make everyone a jedi, otherwise they should have made it harder to level (1.5 months of not power gaming is a low level max) so that i could have enjoyed the game for longer.
They had some really cool features, like the dancers and medics etc and going to the cantina was fun, even the repetitive music wasnt that bad from the bands inside.
But the game was killed due to the fact that there is no life unless you want to grind to jedi, and i dont.
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You mean SWG not CoH hehe.Yes to me the jedi thing cost then a lot.Here was the scenario there was about 300,000 people just before the holocrons was introduced.A number of people left due to not been able to become jedis.
However the majority were happy just living in a diverse world and having fun.But SoE in their greed thought hey if we make jedi unlocking easier and more accessable then we can gain another 100,000 and be 400k to 500k accounts.
Problem was it started a domino effect in which a jedi zombie state came in effectively making the game "star wars jedi grinding".
The end result many were unhappy and more people left then came in because of the jedi thing.Now in the 2 days i decided to try out the community is still in that state but you can see SoE trying to revert back to the old game plan.
This is stupid because most of the people left are only there to be jedis.So basically they should count their losses and just settle for the fact that jedi is the main reason anyone left played.All those that cared for something else are long gone.So they should just work on making the jedi system perfect .
Yeah from my 2 days back so far the game is certainly worse then when i left.In short ,after day 1 i did not want to log in again but have a month i guess
But i am happy i came back because i kept hearing how the game is so good now so i can finally lay SWG to rest once and for all.I certainly would not even return for the expansion.
I really hope SoE do a much better job with EQ2 but honestly i think it will take a real moron to make EQ2 as bad as SWG.Yeah it is that bad now.Even with the inital bugs of SWG it was a way better game in the first 3 months then it is now.
just sounds like this poster is a SWG fanboy
I have nothing agest SWG as its all personal Preference. But saying one game is so much better then a nother game when you havent played it. and are obvously biased and saying things like that is just wrong. Just like how most amercians say Amercia is the best country in the world when they have most likly never left there homestate. Its baised and unfair.
Got Heros? No.. How about Heroes?
Conservatism.
Just old white men trying to find ways to legalize discrimination, and make the poor poorer
The reason you can't play SWG at high quality, is because it engine absolutely and utterly sucks. Loading times are way too long, and happen way too often.
Also their net-code is junk(this falls into crappy engine category). Too many shards split the community, you can hardly find a party to play, and in this game you are totally dependant on other people(doctors, entertainers, slicers, weapon/armor repair etc.). I don't enjoy running around all the planets trying to find a doc. Game might even be better if there is only a single planet.
Next thing, professions are so darn unbalanced. And jedi are the worst thing that they could have implemented. First, most of people who played SWG on the start hoped they'll become jedi first, when they didin't they left. Now, it's all about grind, grind, grind, get master, more grind, another master, and so on, until you reach jedi. There is noone who will want to stay a single profession since jedi beats them all. Also profession badges just give people another reason to grind.
In short, game engine sucks, you are too dependant on other people, while there are no people. There are too many servers, and too many cities, for people to gather.
I played SWG on launch, and again few months ago, ugh, don't know why anyone plays this game.
I have nothing to say about CoH because I haven't played it, nor I will. But don't talk about lack of content and compare it to CoH, because from what I see, CoH has NONE
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But you said you never played CoH so really you can't say if it has content or not unless you want to be one of those relying on other people rumours.So you are judging the content of a game from another person's view which might even be 3rd or 4th hand information.
Fact remains CoH has a rating of 8.5 and is top.This site has hardcore mmorpg gamers that are not easily satified.Just read the threads of moaning on this sites to know lol.
In a poll of 80 people here on this site it was voted best mmorpg of 2003/2004 that has been released in those years by a wide margin over the next game.
This is the first game since DAoC that i have been in that i am yet to hear anyone that i know (my SG of 30 people and like 30 online friends not in SG) to say they are leaving when the free month is over which is due soon.When i was in SWG and horizons more then half the people i met in the first week cancelled at end of the month.
The seerver load is actually getting heavier and heavier as time goes in.For the first 2 weeks half of them were on light load as of prime time.Now not a single on is not on medium load with a third on heavy load.So the community is actually growing fast.Which might have to do with a lot of good reviews this game is getting.
Every game has its problems and critics anyway.
NVidia - The way it is meant to be played
ATI - The way it really plays
I think a lot of ppl who bash SWG are nitpicking for reasons to bash it. For me, a player since last October, if there was something that was broken - such as Droid Engineer was when I started, I just went off and did something else until it was fixed.
A game like this, which is trying to appeal to everyone - From hardcore MMORPG player to someone who just loves Star Wars but has never even played a computer game - was never going to appeal to find the right balance straight away. It had to be an amitious project, probably bigger than it needed to be for release.
That's no excuse for releasing a bugged product but the dev team do seem dedicated to making this game work, and work well. And... shock, horror... they are listening to the community. (See Wookie armour for one small area where they listened). Also, they are admitting mistakes, they admit the Jedi Holocron grind was no they best way forward - and they are rectifying it.
Unfortunately I'm not sure SWG will ever recover from the bad press it keeps getting, in many cases unfairly.
However... I'm not a fanboi looking to sing it's praises or excuse bad customer support (although my experiences with CS have been excellent). For me, eight months is almost enough, and if I get to twelve months I'd be surprised. Why? I've just lost interest. Main reason? Lack of interesting content. I'm also disillusioned with the underlying strategy of SOE - the Space expansion sounds very much like a cheap ploy to try and get twitch gamers in to SWG. Your average MMORPG nut is usually not interested in twitch gaming, so why would they want the expansion? And is a twitch gamer really going to play the land based game long enough to get a decent spaceship? I'm starting to feel that this is just a way for SOE to sell a few more boxes.
So the bottom line... SWG is a game full of promise and potential, that may never live up to it. I just hope a better MMORPG uses the same crafting/resource-collecting model though - as that's probably the best thing in the game. What's a a much bigger shame is that despite trying many of the MMORPG's on the market SWG is the best one I have found... and none of the upcoming releases seem to be offering anything better/more original/interesting.
I would say they try and listen.SoE does listen in all its games from planetside to SWG.However thats where the problem lies.Imagine 1000 different voices shouting different things in your head.What will happen to you ?You be in choas.
Exactly what happened.Go to planetside and see how many times they nerfed and overnerfed some empires just because the other emipre wants the other to be weaker.
In SWG,same thing.The jedi was not coming so SoE permitted it to be easier(at least stragihtforward ie grind professions).This lead to many FS accounts opening whereas it was always assumed we would probably never see more then 5 jedis per server.In a space of 2 months of holos been in the game most active players knew at least 5 FS chars so u can imagine how many were out there.Everyone suddenly wanted one and the rest of the game died,making people unhappy.
Developers need to listen but to a certain degree so they can keep their vision alive and not try and pull in 100 directions.
I don't want the ways of old verrant in which no community views apart from a very select few players mattered to them(though to be honest by them sticking to their gameplan they seems to have done a good job).
But certainly not as SoE is doing it now.
SWG came out of the gate much like AO did ..screwed up and content light. Most people won't be fair to SWG becuase they thought it would be a game that it will take another 50 years of technology to invent, and the devs didnt stop this kinda of thinking, allthough anyone with half a brain knew the expectations where upsurd.
In reality it has nothing wrong with it that every other MMo dosnt have. And it is actually starting to get better.
Bottom line is if you like it, play it. Some people like CoH, I didnt, to me it was the same old repetative stuff over and over, just like any other MMo.
Its all a matter of taste. And if you want to keep a positive attitude about an MMo then I would suggest staying away from boards unless you can see through the 99% bullcrap that people post.
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