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A shout out to all the Griefers, we get no respect, people hate us, but BOY do we have a hell of a t
tunabun
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Just wanted to give a shout out to all my fellow griefers. Most people don't want to admit they try to annoy people or "grief" in games, but I think I can safely say many do on occasion. Maybe it is not your day, maybe someone did something to anger you and you take it out on the closest person, or maybe you just LOVE, I mean blood dripping from your fangs, love, to harass and get a rise out of people. Whatever your reasons, you know it feels good deep down in that dark part of your soul.
To us, the griefers, without our dedication games would be a hands across the world Utopia. Give some stories, I would love to hear some exploits of the fellowship.
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Being proud of being a griefer is rather like being proud to be a bully. Course if thats your picture, then Id be angry enough about that jerry curl to grief people too.
Greifers is what makes all MMO matter. After you meet them, it get personal. You begin to care about the game
Griefing is WRONG. I have never challenged some one to a duel and then Mind control them off the Zep in mid flight. That would be wrong. I have also never Mind controlled a BE pally off the cliff at the horde FP in felwwod so he ended up in darkshore. Poor pally had to ride all the way around. I have never camped anyone with my rogue and kept repeatidly killing them just because they are warlocks. I have never camped a rogue with my warlock just because he is a rogue. ALL THESE THINGS ARE WRONG. No matter how funny it was.
(if you play WoW make a priest atleast untill you get mind control. funny stuff)
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What form of grief are you talking about?. Do you mean killing somebody in a pvp game and camping them? I don't consider that grief, I considered that an allowed gaming mechanic. Many people call grief in a game something that is an allowed mechanic. Using bugs and exploits to inflict harm on someone, now THAT my friend is grief, of which I strongly disagree with.
What if you like to grief, but only other griefers? Where does that put you on the karma ladder?
I could imagine it's funny griefing. But there is no doubt in my mind, that winning a fair fight is so much funnier.
Are you trying to grief me? Shucks now, I got's 'em feelin's to mister, and I am really sensitive about my overgrowth Jerrah' Curl.
I guess I'll start, probably my most recent exploit was in SRO. Since I haven't been playing games for about a year now this is my only recent story. I actually wish I had made a video out of it.
My best friend who is generally a pretty kind soul, was talked into testing his dark side... actually all his sides are dark (He's Jamacian), anyway, to the story, first let me explain the rules.
1. Merchants in SRO can take loads of goods using caravans from city to city. The load is ranked, one to five stars. The more goods in the load the higher the stars, the higher the stars the more that NPC thieves will appear. Lower is safer, but less gain in profit for time.
2. Other players may put on a Thief suit and attack these caravans but ONLY if they are above one star, if they are one star only they can not directly attack that caravan.
3. High level players using a caravan will have similarly leveled NPC thieves attacking their caravan.
4. There is a elemental imbue in the game, which means that before an attack you can add an element to your attack, which causes more damage, it also has a secondary effect. Lightening, for this example will hit multiple other creatures around the initial target.
So based on this, some astute players started to use their high level characters, got their own caravan, killed the thieves their level until a lightening (usually bow using) thief appeared and would not kill it. They would run next to a one star caravan and a low level, the "rebound" or "bounce" damage would kill the lowbie's horse or camel and sometimes the lowbie as well, the high level would move on to another target an repeat.
Now, this brings us to how this idea could be used not for monetary gain within the game world but rather PURE griefing exploitation!
What we would do is the same thing, except only one of us would use a camel / horse to spawn a lightening bow thief, the other, namely me, would attack the thief and gain aggro, and then I would proceed to run around in some of the most popular grinding areas, killing dozens of low levels, as they lay on the ground all you can see in the chat window is the helpless screams, "Please someone REZ me", the icing though is that there is always a couple do gooders passing by willing to give those requested resurrections, and as I come back for my second, third, and fourth rounds, absurd hilarity ensues.
Hours of fun,
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Ahh, the good old days of killing level 20's on mordred with my uber level 50 Sylvan hero & his not-unlike-a-god shortbow skills.
I'm not ignorant of the issues you bring up, the devs that created the game are. People who don't grief or understand it should never be allowed to develop in regards to it. A developer really needs to understand the goals and how the griefer achieves those goals, most dev's take a punishment approach and it really isn't the answer.
I can't ruin a game, it is what it is, the designers made a bad game, overlooked key problems, allowing for exploitation, sometimes on a mass scale. Don't hate the PLAYER, literally, hate the GAME.
Also, where are the stories, no one here know how to grief or have a great "they chased me across three zones" story? C'mon, I can't be the only one willing to admit and add my exploits.
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Griefers deserves NO respect and deserve the hate... only a sick individual would enjoy causing psychological anguish to another person for fun and claim it's "just a game". It's kinda like those school yard bullies who stole your lunch money coz it's all just fun and games to them.And yes, like the above poster said, griefers are the ones who destroyed the hardcore pvp MMO genre and making most games 'carebear'..we used to enjoy fair open player conflict that has no malice in it..but these griefers had to come in and use exploits to ruin the fun... and most griefers don't fight fair they are natural cowards who run at the first sign of resistance, they only come out to brag if their victims are defenseless and have no way to defend themselves. They brag at their l33t sk33lz using cheats and exploits.... soo claiming to be a griefer is just like admitting you're a homosexual retarded monkey who likes to shag goats.
Tunabun, all you're doing is admitting how much an ass you are. Way to go buddy,
But if the attention makes you feel cool, I'll surely ignore the rest of this thread.
Ignorance is bliss.
MMOer since 1997. Beta Tester for UO, DAOC, SB, PS, AC, and WoW. MMO Pro.
I've played MMOs for some time now, and not once have I ever found griefing to add any kind of redeeming value to the game. As far as I'm concerned, MMO developers do themselves a favor when they ban griefers. Griefers add nothing to the game, and have the potential to lose other paying customers. It is not in the interest of the MMO community to let griefers get away with their antics.
As for griefers, they are nothing more then the typical schoolyard bully. So pathetic that the only thing they can do to improve their self esteem is to make other people suffer. They are dregs on society and contribute nothing but agony and despair to others. In a very real sense, our world would be a much better place without them.
Well, I cannot speak for "most" griefers, only myself, and I can assure you I am not in any way a coward. Most of the time I grief people who are talking about how "leet" or good they are in games, which is why I enjoy skill based ones better. As far as the non skill based games, it is merely a matter of time before I find exploits that allow me to annoy others and ruin there experience, again only every so often do I get bored enough to do it for no reason, most of my griefing is in direct response to an arrogant braggart, whom doesn't brag for long. I also go after those who grief others as most griefers have no real idea how to annoy the living **** out of somebody. However, there really isn't enough griefers around to make that common place.
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People would grief in classic EQ1. The mechanics in those days weren't fine tuned to deal with all the possibilities, and that actually allowed a lot of creativity and ingenuity on behalf of the players which can be a good thing.
I have griefed and been griefed and it's all good. I think a line is crossed when people stalk someone or a specific group of persons or decide to grief a specific area of the game constantly. The server staff should be made aware of those situations so they can deal with it.
Dude, chill out, you been griefed a lot haven't you. Time to sing Kum-ba-ya.
As for EQ1, yeah, I LOVED griefing as an Iskar Monk in that game. People couldn't kill me as I could jump from any height and survive, always making an escape, even blinded hahaha. This also allowed me to Train HUGE groups of monsters on parties haha, was hilarious, they would grab the aggro of 13+ red scorpians as I ran through where they were fighting one.
Fun times....
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I think you should take up MMA fighting. I find it to be very theraputic, and pinning someone to the ground and repeatedly punching their face as hard and fast as your arms will allow > hitting a few keystrokes to win in a video game.
If you really wanna act the part of a badass, dont do it in a video game, go out and actually fight. I think itll help you put this whole "im a griefer" thing in perspective.
The true paradox here is someone acting like a badass about the worlds whimpiest past time. Video games.
Sorry man but i cant understand how you can find fun doing this. Making bad thing to other people is never a fun thing.
How will you feel if, when you are just having your fun, doing this, i enter your room and i unplug your internet conection?. Yeah, you will feel ****** . The same feel that had people when you grief them.
Please, be a little more mature, play, and let people play. And, if your only way of having fun if griefing people, then you have a problem, sorry for you.
I love forums. You get to read posts from people like this who skipped out on all there English classes.
Raven
The most fun I had griefing was on my Horde Holy priest, when on a new server, I leveled really fast and was one of the first 60's at the time.
I went to Menethil harbour, I could easily solo the guards, and I snuck on to the boat to Auberdine and used some Savoury Deviate Delights to Ninja-ize me. I then spent a good hour killing and mind controlling noobs into the water off the ship.
After a while another L 60 Gnome Allie Warrior, one of my "rivals" while leveling, came to try and rescue his alliance nub buddies, or to kill me at least.
I completely slaughtered him 2x in a row (I was a HOLY priest, which I know owns in PVP but still people don't see it that way most times, lol)
He was so pissed and I almost died laughing!
Good times!
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No, griefing can truly be a great experience - but only when you grief people like the OP of this post who think they can grief and exploit their way through games without any problems. So in short - grief the griefer - its great.
TRUE STORY
In EQ beta I found a way to duplicate platinum. As you all know, the more plat you had in EQ, the slower you move. I reported my find to the proper folks at Verant (now Sony) and they said they would fix it. So the next day I am out in Oasis, killing crocs and generally having a good time until this guy comes through training sand giants on me and my party. He does it over and over again, boasting how he is griefing us and there is nothing you can do.
I send him a tell. "Hey you think training folks is fun? Have you tried duping plat?" Of course, due to his lowlife/scum-of-the-earth personality he was quick to jump on the bandwagon. He was clearly not in the beta to test the game. So I showed him my trick, in Nektulos (dark elf starting town). Before he knew it he was carrying more plat then the screen would even show. He was also stuck in place completely. He could no longer move his character at all. At that point I left him there, alone and screaming for help.
So the next time you folks who like to grief think you have the world by the balls, just be aware there just might be someone smarter than you out there.
ColdSun
My griefing career started back in the early days of EQ1. Back in those days, many players used to congregate in the East Common tunnels for buying and selling. Lots of lowbies and newbies were there in abundance.
There was a certain high lvl NPC that roamed the zone by the name of Sergeant Slate. Since my Shadowknight was max level and fairly well geared, I could take a bit of a pounding from this NPC and live to tell the tale. So what I would do, is cast my dot/snare on him, and run him into the thick of all the players in the EC tunnel. I would then hit my shout macro that went something like "Help me kill Sgt Slate in the tunnel! He drops 100 plat and I'll split it with ya!", or something to that effect.
Inevitably, several noobies or lowbies would rush up and start attacking the NPC. At that point, I would promptly Feign Death, and watch as he would turn and annihilate them all while I just chuckled. And yes, I did this all the time.
My true griefing days were spent in WoW though, but that is a story for another time
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Perception is Reality.
I have the feeling that most of you whom seem to be annoyed and angered by the very concept of griefing are like this.
How would I feel if someone BROKE into my house and unplugged my Internet connection. I understand what you are trying to get across but not the best example. Admittedly I can have problems when playing, good CALL!
I love forums. You get to read posts from people like this who skipped out on all there English classes.
Raven
You might want to make sure you CONSISTENTLY use proper grammar and spelling if you are going to call others out on it.
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I used to sneak unto the alliance boats too lol. I'm not sure if this qualifies as griefing? Never was sure what people meant by griefing. I was a shaman so they shoulda saw me coming from a mile away. once I brought my whole guild with me. we were 40+ strong.
what was funny was hiding in the alliance boat and then once it was out to sea we'd pop out like the boogeyman and bumb rush'em
But that was PVP
I'm no saint I've killed many and I've been killed many times. I've been camped for no good reason but I took it like a man and called in my guild to help even the score. we all had some fun wars this man.
but I dont think i ever exploited the game in anyway. never cheated.
i love greifing nothing like a nice meaningless fight. the days in lakeshire on my priest killin all the low lvls. then having them call all there friends. fun stuff