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Razorback
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Want to talk about 1c temp rises as proof of global warming...
Well explain that and stay fashionable.
The climate is variable folks....
Repeat after me variable !
Not stable
Not predictable
variable !
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You do realise global warming will probably case More rainfall and colder weather.
The most used word in global warming theory, second only it IF!
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The most used word in global warming theory, second only it IF!
Well i wont argue with that type of thinking it would just be a wast of time.
The most used word in global warming theory, second only it IF!
Well i wont argue with that type of thinking it would just be a wast of time.
Yup when your convinced your convinced right ?Link me to what convinced you. I offer that challenge to everyone I debate, I have yet to see a link that didnt include the words "probably", "if", maybe or "likleyhood" and the most liberal use of those terms was in the IPCC report.
To call GW theory an inexact science is a tremendous compliment.
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Try living in the UK right now with its strange weather over the past few years...its weter
Well Im convinced....
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I am glad people like you seem to be slowly shrinking to the minority. Humans do have a large impact on Earth . The question is whether that impact is harmfull. Whats the worst that could happen?
That was actually a really good way of arguing this topic im impressed by how simple it was done and how clear the result was.
And note that Razorback hasant replied to the Video post perhaps he is re-evaluating his thoughts on this matter.
That was actually a really good way of arguing this topic im impressed by how simple it was done and how clear the result was.
It is tho isn't it.
. I actually first saw that video on these forums under an Al Gore thread or some crap..... posted by another person.
And no he's familiar with it I am sure. I believe he is the one who started the AL Gore thread. I might be wrong. I think hes going after those who over-react and say GW is fact when theres so little to support it still.
My view is that while global waring isant fact its still too important a problem to ignore. And that video expressed my core views on this subject very well.
That was actually a really good way of arguing this topic im impressed by how simple it was done and how clear the result was.
It is tho isn't it.
. I actually first saw that video on these forums under an Al Gore thread or some crap..... posted by another person.
And no he's familiar with it I am sure. I believe he is the one who started the AL Gore thread. I might be wrong. I think hes going after those who over-react and say GW is fact when theres so little to support it still.
That was actually a really good way of arguing this topic im impressed by how simple it was done and how clear the result was.
Actually, I'd say that by his "worst that can happen" logic, we'd be better off doing nothing. If we're putting worst case scenarios in his 4 boxes, the chart should read:Wouldn't the box for yes/true also be equally as bad as yes but we just took percautions?
I get what he was saying.
I would choose column B. Why? Because if it becomes true, I think this world needs a good kick in the pants to fix itself and if global warming is really happening, do you think there would be any chance to stop it? People need to remember we are not gods, we are animals just like your dog and cat friends. This might be earths way of saying. "damn it stop screwing like bunnies and over populating me jerks!"
Anyways from what I understand that the world is warming but it is due to the sun, not humans.
Just remember, RFK Jr. said that if you don't believe in global warming you should be considered a traitor.
Their religion has gotten so strong that you should be shot for denying it.
The Earth isn't overpopulated. Have you ever been to Montana?
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That was actually a really good way of arguing this topic im impressed by how simple it was done and how clear the result was.
Actually, I'd say that by his "worst that can happen" logic, we'd be better off doing nothing. If we're putting worst case scenarios in his 4 boxes, the chart should read:
Fair enough , I think i get what your saying. I interpreted the video a bit differently than you. It is a Pandora's box. It was just some media that I recalled of the top of my head that was pretty close with out a fowl cry of wolf. The safest option is accept GW is plausable and Humanity Influences it. Then take the best messures possable to counter what we think are bad Human influences. And never know wether if in fact GW was nothing more than a myth or truth. Because like you said, by the time it takes to have the Scientific Data available (probably a few generations). chances are it is indeed to late if it turns out to be fact.It is a good media piece tho to get people thinking on the subject a bit differently. Even if it has some not so obvious flaws in its logic.
The most used word in global warming theory, second only it IF!
I thought we'd already established that science is almost never definite. Words like "probably" and "highly likely" are how scientists usually refer to scientific theory.
That was actually a really good way of arguing this topic im impressed by how simple it was done and how clear the result was.
It is tho isn't it.
. I actually first saw that video on these forums under an Al Gore thread or some crap..... posted by another person.
And no he's familiar with it I am sure. I believe he is the one who started the AL Gore thread. I might be wrong. I think hes going after those who over-react and say GW is fact when theres so little to support it still.
I was being modest. Trying to be "tactfull " if you will. Since I did not want to get into a debate, and have to scower the web for data to back up any claims I made.
The most used word in global warming theory, second only it IF!
I thought we'd already established that science is almost never definite. Words like "probably" and "highly likely" are how scientists usually refer to scientific theory.
It's not that hard to find info on what the scientific community largely thinks. Here for example.
There have even been studies to find out what the scientific concencus is. One of them can be found here.
Frankly I think we hav" more pressing priorities. Cheaper ones too. Feeding the whole world and providing medical care and education for everyone would be really cheap. And this would also provide the poorer countries in the world with the means to combat global warming.
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That was actually a really good way of arguing this topic im impressed by how simple it was done and how clear the result was.
It is tho isn't it.
. I actually first saw that video on these forums under an Al Gore thread or some crap..... posted by another person.
And no he's familiar with it I am sure. I believe he is the one who started the AL Gore thread. I might be wrong. I think hes going after those who over-react and say GW is fact when theres so little to support it still.
I was being modest. Trying to be "tactfull " if you will. Since I did not want to get into a debate, and have to scower the web for data to back up any claims I made.
That was actually a really good way of arguing this topic im impressed by how simple it was done and how clear the result was.
It is tho isn't it.
. I actually first saw that video on these forums under an Al Gore thread or some crap..... posted by another person.
And no he's familiar with it I am sure. I believe he is the one who started the AL Gore thread. I might be wrong. I think hes going after those who over-react and say GW is fact when theres so little to support it still.
I was being modest. Trying to be "tactfull " if you will. Since I did not want to get into a debate, and have to scower the web for data to back up any claims I made.
I'll try to remember that link next time and post it along with the clip. I honestly wasn't aware of the link. I'll definately read more into it when I am camping /waiting for Dyna's to respawn.
Just to be clear. Not sure what influenced you to post that directly at me. I am not someone saying that Global Wwarming is false or a myth. In fact I do believe that humans have influenced climate change for the worse or will so in the future if steps are not taken to prevent it.
If someone understands elementary school Science behind cause and effect. Then I don't see how someone would deny Humanity has no Influence on climate. Now if someone can accept that Humanity does have influence on climate. Look at all the devastion , pollution , and destruction mankind has caused to Earth. With all that in mind, at this point its kinda hard to deny that any effect mankind has had is anything other than a bad one.
When I post on certain topics I try to stay open and/or not damning other peoples views who are the oposite of what my own are. So at times i guess i can see why it makes me look like I am taking a stance that seems to opose my personal views and come across wrong to others.
Taking into context why I used the term little support. I recalled a huge and heated debate in that Al Gore thread where people were either strongly for or against Global Warming. like I said I did not want to debate. So I used the term " little support". I did not want to come off like i am pushing my views onto someone who views Global Warming as a Myth. Generally this works fairly effectively for opening up someone to new opinions alittle better than saying "hey dumbass" heres a stack of Scientific pappers that support the stance of Global Warming. Not to mention I wasn't aware of the link to said pappers or i would have tossed them in with that short clip.