No debate is necessary. I recommend looking up Oceanic Conveyor and Thermalhaline Circulation. Ocean /Sea are quite different.
Pathetic
You know i see you do say a lot but ive yet to see you actually post facts could you do that a bit more than just Chatting as its hardly evidence against global warming.
If you knew anything about science you would know that you cannot disprove anything.
If you had ACTUALLY read my posts you would know that I have already stated the burden of proof is on the party making the claim.
Yes thats why i want you to disprove global warming because you claim that what we are seeing is naturall and humans have littel or nothing to do with it so the burden of proof is also on you and ive yet to see you post any real proof on your claim that global warming doesant exist.
That isn't how Science works. You can't really disprove someone's theory. How exactly would you go about disproving it? The burden is on the Scientific community to prove their theory.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
No debate is necessary. I recommend looking up Oceanic Conveyor and Thermalhaline Circulation. Ocean /Sea are quite different.
Pathetic
You know i see you do say a lot but ive yet to see you actually post facts could you do that a bit more than just Chatting as its hardly evidence against global warming.
If you knew anything about science you would know that you cannot disprove anything.
If you had ACTUALLY read my posts you would know that I have already stated the burden of proof is on the party making the claim.
Yes thats why i want you to disprove global warming because you claim that what we are seeing is naturall and humans have littel or nothing to do with it so the burden of proof is also on you and ive yet to see you post any real proof on your claim that global warming doesant exist.
That isn't how Science works. You can't really disprove someone's theory. How exactly would you go about disproving it? The burden is on the Scientific community to prove their theory.
I disagree if Razorback did read some article disproving global warming id like to know more. Besides there is enough evidence already For global warming.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
No debate is necessary. I recommend looking up Oceanic Conveyor and Thermalhaline Circulation. Ocean /Sea are quite different.
Pathetic
You know i see you do say a lot but ive yet to see you actually post facts could you do that a bit more than just Chatting as its hardly evidence against global warming.
If you knew anything about science you would know that you cannot disprove anything.
If you had ACTUALLY read my posts you would know that I have already stated the burden of proof is on the party making the claim.
Yes thats why i want you to disprove global warming because you claim that what we are seeing is naturall and humans have littel or nothing to do with it so the burden of proof is also on you and ive yet to see you post any real proof on your claim that global warming doesant exist.
That isn't how Science works. You can't really disprove someone's theory. How exactly would you go about disproving it? The burden is on the Scientific community to prove their theory.
I disagree if Razorback did read some article disproving global warming id like to know more. Besides there is enough evidence already For global warming.
There is plenty of coorelational data, but not much direct evidence to support it. Like I said it might be that we are causing it, we might not be. There might be something we can do about it, there might not be. In the end we just don't know. And when we just don't know I think it might be more hurtful then beneficial to us to try and fix it.
Now keep in mind IMO we will see a lot less fossil fuel usage in the next 10-20 years. Not because of global Warming, but for national security and because companies will want to trump the oil industry and take them down.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
There is plenty of coorelational data, but not much direct evidence to support it. Like I said it might be that we are causing it, we might not be. There might be something we can do about it, there might not be. In the end we just don't know. And when we just don't know I think it might be more hurtful then beneficial to us to try and fix it.
Now keep in mind IMO we will see a lot less fossil fuel usage in the next 10-20 years. Not because of global Warming, but for national security and because companies will want to trump the oil industry and take them down.
I agree with you when you put it like that but what i dont like is when people say GW is not real and then leave it at that. True there is still magin for error considering the GW theory but to just go out and say its all a lie or a Corperate straatagy to get more cash from us is just plain wrong.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
I also don't believe humanity has much to do with Global Warming, the fluctuation in the Sun itself are more important then anything else.
However, various stuff, such as the sterility of any lifeform in a area we polute, this concern me.
We are indeed killing ourselves, with the pollution, but we won't react in time. We are a sturdy race, so when it is nasty enough to even kill us/sterilise us, only a few species, such as the rats, may survive our dimwitness.
The amount of car in our living areas, the cities, this is ridiculous. We are breathing that...and for now, we survive...eventually, we won't.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
wow, talking about ninjaing. went from a real discussion of Global Warming to dogma. Gotta love it!
What dogma? The world is getting warmer. That is a fact. Can't be disproved. But the cause for that warming is still unknown. They think we are causing it, but they have no scientific proof that we are. There is a ton of coorelation to back up that Man-Made Global Warming is happening, but no hard proof yet.
I am not saying that it isn't happening, but when people act like RFK Jr and think that if you don't believe in global warming being caused by man, that you are a traitor to the country. That is just plain silly.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
I personally think Glenn Beck said it pretty well. He said that of course he believes the world is getting warmer. He just isn't sure if it is man made and if it is man made he isn't sure if there is much we can actually do to fix it.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
Sure, the earth is warming up a little bit. But, in the past the world has been much hotter and much cooler. Humans survived then. So why all the doomsday stuff for just a minor fluctuation? The earth is always warming and cooling. Do you people forget that in the 70s the doosday people were predicting an ice age?
Whats with all these people and their short attention span?
Sure, the earth is warming up a little bit. But, in the past the world has been much hotter and much cooler. Humans survived then. So why all the doomsday stuff for just a minor fluctuation? The earth is always warming and cooling. Do you people forget that in the 70s the doosday people were predicting an ice age? Whats with all these people and their short attention span?
Because it's big business, and because Al Gore is a friggen idiot.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
just to point out some things, its the AVERAGE temp, not just temp (it is sortta misleading). Also, its not just warming. Understand that the affects span pretty far; eg. temp goes up/down, solubility changes, ocean currents begin to change, nutrient cycle changes etc. etc.
i'm not gonna' bother taking sides on this, as i don't need to push my opinion on anyone, but i just thought i would add a little to the topic.
Sure, the earth is warming up a little bit. But, in the past the world has been much hotter and much cooler. Humans survived then. So why all the doomsday stuff for just a minor fluctuation? The earth is always warming and cooling. Do you people forget that in the 70s the doosday people were predicting an ice age? Whats with all these people and their short attention span?
What's with all these people and their misinformation? In the 70s, scientists were not predicting an ice age. Hysterical news anchors might have been, but there was little if any scientific support for the notion from day one. It's a little different situation with global warming. What with, you know... the scientists and all.
Sure, the earth is warming up a little bit. But, in the past the world has been much hotter and much cooler. Humans survived then. So why all the doomsday stuff for just a minor fluctuation? The earth is always warming and cooling. Do you people forget that in the 70s the doosday people were predicting an ice age? Whats with all these people and their short attention span?
What's with all these people and their misinformation? In the 70s, scientists were not predicting an ice age. Hysterical news anchors might have been, but there was little if any scientific support for the notion from day one. It's a little different situation with global warming. What with, you know... the scientists and all.
it's all a big conspiracy by mother nature. by changing the climate mother nture is filtering out the strongest being(s). Those who have adapted the most will be on top of the food chain.
+-+-+-+-+-+ "MMOs, for people that like think chatting is like a skill or something, rotflol" http://purepwnage.com -+-+-+-+-+-+ "Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
he could be fine..maybe he's a big kevin costner fan
LOL that water movie sucked so bad!
+-+-+-+-+-+ "MMOs, for people that like think chatting is like a skill or something, rotflol" http://purepwnage.com -+-+-+-+-+-+ "Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
The temperature is rising, but the world is really going towards another ice age. Regarding the "sure it's been a lot hotter or colder" the problem isn't that it's hot or cold now, the problem is we are going towards a WAY hotter climate than before. Stop being silly, realize the truth.
A lot of the information put forward here (and on the other topics regarding this subject) is just ridiculous. One scientist claiming he knew more than the other 99% of the scientists. Well, one scientist is acceptable, the thing is you believe in him!
Yes, the climate is variable. Do you think they are watching a curve over 2 years? Sure the climate is variable, but ever since the 70's or 80's (sorry, don't remember) the temperature has been rising. And the thing is that it doesn't vary! Before if we check a curve of the temperature we can see that it moves up and down, but it doesn't now. Now it goes straight upwards.
The temperature is hotter than it's ever been before! Global Warming exists, you maybe don't want to believe in it because you're afraid of consequences or maybe the thought that you have to change you're lifestyle; that doesn't change the fact that Global Warming exists.
To the OP. ....There is proof that the icebergs are melting.
Damn your right look at these pictures I found....
This is the Ice yesterday...
And this is the same ice today
+-+-+-+-+-+ "MMOs, for people that like think chatting is like a skill or something, rotflol" http://purepwnage.com -+-+-+-+-+-+ "Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
Comments
Pathetic
You know i see you do say a lot but ive yet to see you actually post facts could you do that a bit more than just Chatting as its hardly evidence against global warming.
If you knew anything about science you would know that you cannot disprove anything.
If you had ACTUALLY read my posts you would know that I have already stated the burden of proof is on the party making the claim.
Yes thats why i want you to disprove global warming because you claim that what we are seeing is naturall and humans have littel or nothing to do with it so the burden of proof is also on you and ive yet to see you post any real proof on your claim that global warming doesant exist.
That isn't how Science works. You can't really disprove someone's theory. How exactly would you go about disproving it? The burden is on the Scientific community to prove their theory.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
Pathetic
You know i see you do say a lot but ive yet to see you actually post facts could you do that a bit more than just Chatting as its hardly evidence against global warming.
If you knew anything about science you would know that you cannot disprove anything.
If you had ACTUALLY read my posts you would know that I have already stated the burden of proof is on the party making the claim.
Yes thats why i want you to disprove global warming because you claim that what we are seeing is naturall and humans have littel or nothing to do with it so the burden of proof is also on you and ive yet to see you post any real proof on your claim that global warming doesant exist.
That isn't how Science works. You can't really disprove someone's theory. How exactly would you go about disproving it? The burden is on the Scientific community to prove their theory.
I disagree if Razorback did read some article disproving global warming id like to know more. Besides there is enough evidence already For global warming.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
Pathetic
You know i see you do say a lot but ive yet to see you actually post facts could you do that a bit more than just Chatting as its hardly evidence against global warming.
If you knew anything about science you would know that you cannot disprove anything.
If you had ACTUALLY read my posts you would know that I have already stated the burden of proof is on the party making the claim.
Yes thats why i want you to disprove global warming because you claim that what we are seeing is naturall and humans have littel or nothing to do with it so the burden of proof is also on you and ive yet to see you post any real proof on your claim that global warming doesant exist.
That isn't how Science works. You can't really disprove someone's theory. How exactly would you go about disproving it? The burden is on the Scientific community to prove their theory.
I disagree if Razorback did read some article disproving global warming id like to know more. Besides there is enough evidence already For global warming.
There is plenty of coorelational data, but not much direct evidence to support it. Like I said it might be that we are causing it, we might not be. There might be something we can do about it, there might not be. In the end we just don't know. And when we just don't know I think it might be more hurtful then beneficial to us to try and fix it.Now keep in mind IMO we will see a lot less fossil fuel usage in the next 10-20 years. Not because of global Warming, but for national security and because companies will want to trump the oil industry and take them down.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
I agree with you when you put it like that but what i dont like is when people say GW is not real and then leave it at that. True there is still magin for error considering the GW theory but to just go out and say its all a lie or a Corperate straatagy to get more cash from us is just plain wrong.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
I also don't believe humanity has much to do with Global Warming, the fluctuation in the Sun itself are more important then anything else.
However, various stuff, such as the sterility of any lifeform in a area we polute, this concern me.
We are indeed killing ourselves, with the pollution, but we won't react in time. We are a sturdy race, so when it is nasty enough to even kill us/sterilise us, only a few species, such as the rats, may survive our dimwitness.
The amount of car in our living areas, the cities, this is ridiculous. We are breathing that...and for now, we survive...eventually, we won't.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
wow, talking about ninjaing. went from a real discussion of Global Warming to dogma. Gotta love it!
I am not saying that it isn't happening, but when people act like RFK Jr and think that if you don't believe in global warming being caused by man, that you are a traitor to the country. That is just plain silly.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
I personally think Glenn Beck said it pretty well. He said that of course he believes the world is getting warmer. He just isn't sure if it is man made and if it is man made he isn't sure if there is much we can actually do to fix it.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
Sure, the earth is warming up a little bit. But, in the past the world has been much hotter and much cooler. Humans survived then. So why all the doomsday stuff for just a minor fluctuation? The earth is always warming and cooling. Do you people forget that in the 70s the doosday people were predicting an ice age?
Whats with all these people and their short attention span?
Because it's big business, and because Al Gore is a friggen idiot.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
just to point out some things, its the AVERAGE temp, not just temp (it is sortta misleading). Also, its not just warming. Understand that the affects span pretty far; eg. temp goes up/down, solubility changes, ocean currents begin to change, nutrient cycle changes etc. etc.
i'm not gonna' bother taking sides on this, as i don't need to push my opinion on anyone, but i just thought i would add a little to the topic.
What's with all these people and their misinformation? In the 70s, scientists were not predicting an ice age. Hysterical news anchors might have been, but there was little if any scientific support for the notion from day one. It's a little different situation with global warming. What with, you know... the scientists and all.
Better to be safe than sorry.
What's with all these people and their misinformation? In the 70s, scientists were not predicting an ice age. Hysterical news anchors might have been, but there was little if any scientific support for the notion from day one. It's a little different situation with global warming. What with, you know... the scientists and all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttLBqB0qDkoI didn't talk to actuall scientists then. But yes, it was all over the media. I even remember hearing about it in school.
My point was that the current global warming caused by humans stuff is just as much of a knee jerk reaction as the 70s ice age predictions.
If the earth heats up or cools down thats fine. It has many times in our history. We humans will find a way to survive.
it's all a big conspiracy by mother nature. by changing the climate mother nture is filtering out the strongest being(s). Those who have adapted the most will be on top of the food chain.
Just in case....
+-+-+-+-+-+
"MMOs, for people that like think chatting is like a skill or something, rotflol"
http://purepwnage.com
-+-+-+-+-+-+
"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
he could be fine..maybe he's a big kevin costner fan
he could be fine..maybe he's a big kevin costner fan
LOL that water movie sucked so bad!
+-+-+-+-+-+
"MMOs, for people that like think chatting is like a skill or something, rotflol"
http://purepwnage.com
-+-+-+-+-+-+
"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
no way man those jet-ski guys kicked ass
and of course that movie contained the classic quote "oh thank god", when that guy got blown up after living in the world they had created
To the OP.
....There is proof that the icebergs are melting.
....Skin cancer is rising.
....It's been raining for the last few weeks and it's JULY!
We're all Geniuses. Most of us just don't know it.
The temperature is rising, but the world is really going towards another ice age. Regarding the "sure it's been a lot hotter or colder" the problem isn't that it's hot or cold now, the problem is we are going towards a WAY hotter climate than before. Stop being silly, realize the truth.
A lot of the information put forward here (and on the other topics regarding this subject) is just ridiculous. One scientist claiming he knew more than the other 99% of the scientists. Well, one scientist is acceptable, the thing is you believe in him!
Yes, the climate is variable. Do you think they are watching a curve over 2 years? Sure the climate is variable, but ever since the 70's or 80's (sorry, don't remember) the temperature has been rising. And the thing is that it doesn't vary! Before if we check a curve of the temperature we can see that it moves up and down, but it doesn't now. Now it goes straight upwards.
The temperature is hotter than it's ever been before! Global Warming exists, you maybe don't want to believe in it because you're afraid of consequences or maybe the thought that you have to change you're lifestyle; that doesn't change the fact that Global Warming exists.
This is the Ice yesterday...
And this is the same ice today
+-+-+-+-+-+
"MMOs, for people that like think chatting is like a skill or something, rotflol"
http://purepwnage.com
-+-+-+-+-+-+
"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
Ps. Loved the skin cancer argument
i haven't read the thread either.what were the probabilities causing these ..anomalies?
i haven't read the thread either.what were the probabilities causing these ..anomalies?
Mother Nature.... that bitch