Maybe they licensed the firefly IP - that would make a nice alternative sci-fi space mmo.
But as has been mentioned, rumor has been flying about bioware's new title for a while, including posts here suggesting/wishing for a new star wars mmo. Star wars is fine and all.. but it's already been done, how ever good/bad you consider the result to be. It seems more logical that they would aim for something new, not just rehash the same old.
Originally posted by fromhun bioware never said anything about their IP. not in the past , and not today. They didnt confirmed anything.(Star wars or not Star wars)
What he said.. just not as large.
They've confirmed it's an MMO.. that's all. At one point BEFORE that, a board mod at Bioware said they didn't like working with someone else's IP but QUICKLY recanted that. Proof they will was just announced with the Sonic the Hedgehog RPG.
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Maybe they licensed the firefly IP - that would make a nice alternative sci-fi space mmo. But as has been mentioned, rumor has been flying about bioware's new title for a while, including posts here suggesting/wishing for a new star wars mmo. Star wars is fine and all.. but it's already been done, how ever good/bad you consider the result to be. It seems more logical that they would aim for something new, not just rehash the same old.
Firefly universe I think has some potential as an mmo.. but maybe not so much as it is being developed by Multiverse:
"Like Capt. Mal Reynolds stumbling in after a bar fight, the short-lived but much beloved sci-fi series Firefly will soon make an unexpected return, not as a TV show, but as a massively multiplayer online game.
Now that's shiny.
Multiverse, maker of a free MMO-creation platform, plans to announce Friday morning that it's struck a deal with Fox Licensing to turn the show into an MMORPG in the fashion of Star Wars Galaxies or Eve Online."
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It is a fact, BioWare does not intend to work with foreign IPs, it just doesn't work out for them anymore. They don't get creative freedom, nor complete revenue. I know for sure they parted ways with LA in a sour way, but that's personal information, take it as you will. When the mod stated this very thing, it got recalled fast, but that was a question of prestige, not truth. There will be no KotOR MMO from BioWare, best deal with that. They are building two universes of their own, that should suffice.
And KotOR ... well, only thing I can tell you about KotOR is this. Before I played it, I hated Star Wars, and saw no imagination in it what so ever, considered typical american bull. KotOR made me watch all the movies (available at the time), it didn't change my artistic aspect, but made me respect BioWare, that is for sure. KotOR is the single most complex piece of art ever to take place in the SW universe, George Lucas has nothing on BioWare.
So whatever MMO they are doing, I am preordering, NOW!
If it is a KOTOR MMORPG I am there. But I doubt it will be a star wars mmo. I think it will be based on Fire and Ice. Sadly it won't be KOTOR> the only reports we find online are reports of rumors and no facts.
They've confirmed it's an MMO.. that's all. At one point BEFORE that, a board mod at Bioware said they didn't like working with someone else's IP but QUICKLY recanted that. Proof they will was just announced with the Sonic the Hedgehog RPG.
it will be intresting to see what the Bioware MMO is.
there are actually tons of possiblities. And we all know how rumors with Star wars goes... oh .. yeah... they were right ...no one believed NGE and Jedi as a starting class even after it went live ppl were still arguing the point.
As far as someone else saying why do a sw game when its been done, get a clue
300,000 accounts @ $ 50 buy in = $15 million
300,000 accounts @ $15/ mo = $4.5 million income / mo
and thats just saying what SWG was at peak, before MMO's had huge moster followings, now its more mainstream and larger audiance. there are millions of loyal Star WARs fans, the fact anyone at all still plays SWG is proof of that.
now a company like Bioware, make a quality MMO for Star wars IP...
could eaisly rival WoW... especially a KotOR - mmo
Id say if you go even half of the current 9 million in WOW active subs,
4.5 million accounts per month giving Bioware and LA monthly funds off accounts alone in the range of $67.5 million per month not to even mention intial buy in that would hit ridiculious numbers like $250 million buy in, is a pretty dam good reason to make a game that has been done before with a company that can actually make a dam good game like Bioware.
do you really need more motivation , especially in Lucas Arts view of things since they dont have anymore movies for that IP even whispered at.
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What he said.. just not as large.
They've confirmed it's an MMO.. that's all. At one point BEFORE that, a board mod at Bioware said they didn't like working with someone else's IP but QUICKLY recanted that. Proof they will was just announced with the Sonic the Hedgehog RPG.
it will be intresting to see what the Bioware MMO is.
there are actually tons of possiblities. And we all know how rumors with Star wars goes... oh .. yeah... they were right ...no one believed NGE and Jedi as a starting class even after it went live ppl were still arguing the point.
As far as someone else saying why do a sw game when its been done, get a clue
300,000 accounts @ $ 50 buy in = $15 million
300,000 accounts @ $15/ mo = $4.5 million income / mo
and thats just saying what SWG was at peak, before MMO's had huge moster followings, now its more mainstream and larger audiance. there are millions of loyal Star WARs fans, the fact anyone at all still plays SWG is proof of that.
now a company like Bioware, make a quality MMO for Star wars IP...
could eaisly rival WoW... especially a KotOR - mmo
Id say if you go even half of the current 9 million in WOW active subs,
4.5 million accounts per month giving Bioware and LA monthly funds off accounts alone in the range of $67.5 million per month not to even mention intial buy in that would hit ridiculious numbers like $250 million buy in, is a pretty dam good reason to make a game that has been done before with a company that can actually make a dam good game like Bioware.
do you really need more motivation , especially in Lucas Arts view of things since they dont have anymore movies for that IP even whispered at.
Bioware makes really good games. KOTOR is the best RPG to date... It is by far the best SW game ever made... Mass Effect looks like it is going to be great as well... They simply know what they're doing.
There are millions of Star Wars fans. There are hundreds of thousands of SWG veterans. There IS a major market for a Star Wars MMO such as KOTOR.
if KOTOR is gonna be 'bout combat and PvP only it's not for me.. what I liked 'bout SWG was the diversity and mix/match of professions.
if KOTOR is gonna be mostly 'bout jedi then it's not my game again... I like jedi and think they are cool but also think they are too good and unfair compared to other combat classes... basically this new game doesn't sound like it's gonna be my cuppa tea.
SWG was perfect for me.. that's of course before they messed it up with CU/NGE
There isn't gonna be another Star Wars MMO for a long long time. At least 3-4 years. Usually people get wind of something 2 years before it launches.
I swear old SWG fans come on these forums and stalk them daily thinking there's going to be a new Star Wars MMO tomorrow. The industry just doesn't work that way. Play the old game (which I don't recommend), or find something else.
There isn't gonna be another Star Wars MMO for a long long time. At least 3-4 years. Usually people get wind of something 2 years before it launches. I swear old SWG fans come on these forums and stalk them daily thinking there's going to be a new Star Wars MMO tomorrow. The industry just doesn't work that way. Play the old game (which I don't recommend), or find something else.
How do you know there will be no star wars mmorpg for 4 years.You have no proof and yet you know what bioware mmoprg is before they announce.So unless you can see in to the futher and bring proof that there will be no star wars mmoprg please dont say any thing at all.
There isn't gonna be another Star Wars MMO for a long long time. At least 3-4 years. Usually people get wind of something 2 years before it launches. I swear old SWG fans come on these forums and stalk them daily thinking there's going to be a new Star Wars MMO tomorrow. The industry just doesn't work that way. Play the old game (which I don't recommend), or find something else.
No one thinks or expects a new SW mmo tomorrow or anytime soon. These are SW fans here. Bioware has had a cakewalk dealing with them compared to other forms of entertainment. Gamers dont care, nor do starwars fans, how the industry works either. If the guys at BW dont want the SW fans hounding them...just comment on it like they did w/ the kotor3 rumor. Tell them bluntly we are not working on it. There is so much secrecy surrounding this MMO, i dont think anyone at Bioware other than those directly involved even know what it is. That reeks of Lucasfilm if you ask me. Jim Ward did an interview with hollywood reporter back in 2005? i think...talked about the importance of storytelling and bringing NPC's to life. Bioware when they first announce said that storytelling and bringing NPC's to life was what would make this MMO stand out or something like that. Pretty much echoed Ward's comments though i cant remember the exact quotes. I think bioware is or was working on a SW mmo at one point.
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I found KOTOR to be fun and polished, but not exactly groundbreaking. The dialogue choices had been done long before by other companies, one good example being Deus Ex. The story was adequate but hardly mind-blowing; it read like a cheap SW paperback. The gameplay was fun but the worlds were all very obvious arenas... it felt very confined, even on the open dunes of Tatooine. I couldn't even free-look. Overall, very colorful, very polished, and entertaining, but not something that I look back on and think "amazing."
I'm not sure that a Bioware MMORPG based on KOTOR would have the "PC sophistication" found in pre-CU SWG. If anything, I'd expect it to appear on consoles, maybe later being ported to the PC, large TV fonts and clunky console GUI included.
edit: This is what I'm talking about. Improved visuals, but the song remains the same. Large fonts, elementary dialogue choices. A far cry from the brilliant dialogue of, say, the Fallout series.
I heard that it was supposed to be a Neverwinter Nights MMO.And if it is a KOTOR mmo there is no room for 2 starwars mmo's dont get me wrong i love KOTOR they were great rpg's but i think it would be a bad idea since there is already a star wars mmo.I think neverwinter nighst would be great because it has great lore,background,and lands coming from the Forgotten realms series and there could be limitless content possibilities and you could see familiar faces like drizzt,bruenore,wulfgar,and more...but even if KoToR mmo comes out i'll prolly still play it.
I LOVE how people come on here and bash others for "discussing" the possibility of a Star Wars MMO. NOBODY knows what the future holds. Bioware could EASILY be making a KOTOR MMO or they could easily be making something else.
There are millions of Star Wars fans worldwide. There are NOW so many more people playing MMOs than there were in 2003 when SWG launched.
SWG: NGE is horrible and MOST of the people in the gaming world would agree. There is going to be another Star Wars MMO, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of WHEN, and WHO.
Concerning SWG, no-one but the campanies themselves truely know where to shift the majority of the blame, but some have speculated it to be LA.
So problems would still arise even if a different company bought the licience off LA. LA would still want its say in things.
Plus speaking of KOTOR I and II, LA pushed both releases of the game, which had a worse effect on the Sith lords, as the game wasnt finished and had some serious bugs within the code. If you look hard enough there are websites that even have the audio speech files of what would of been the final scenes of the game, but obdisan ran out of time because LA forced there hands.
There was going to be a droid planet also to destroy HK factory, probably other features that were also left out.
The Sith Lords was a very unpolished game compared to the first KOTOR, it was shorter, I had major freezes problems on Dantoonie, where i could move a frame ever 10 secs
So really, I believe that even if a KOTOR version was to be made for MMO, Bioware would not do it, they have even said in interviews that they would never work on another licienced game again, only there own titles.
Obidisan might be making a KOTOR 3 though, there has been speculation, i hope so
Meh, I don't think a KOTOR Online game is going to interest me. KOTOR 3 would/could/should be nice, but I'm not sure the KOTOR formula works for a MMO.
Jedi were cool in the movies because they were RARE and POWERFUL. Jedi were cool in KOTOR because they were RARE and POWERFUL. Any MMO based around Jedi is going to remove both of those attributes...Jedi will be as numerous as the stars and properly balanced for the masses, in other words: boring (see NGE).
I think they actually had Jedi right as the perma-death alpha-class, where only hard-core mofo's need apply. I never attempted Jedi in SWG (knew I didn't have the time), but they were actually cool early on. I suppose a KOTOR Online game could be similar to the successfull CoH/CoV, but would that type of game satiate a Star Wars fan? CoH's target audience is probably a little younger than a target Star Wars audience.
Also, I'm not sure the younger generation (or the coveted Asian market) is that into Star Wars anymore. My younger cousins certainly aren't...and who can blame 'em, as the prequels were so sh*tty.
I have no insider data, but I hope Bioware's MMO goes in a different direction.
If they just made a starwars game that took place after return of the jedi ep 6. Then luke would be the only jedi.
Players shouldnt have one ultimate class, SOE made a huge mistake choosing to implement jedi in SWG.
There was soo many combat proffesions but people ended up playing mostly BH and Jedi in the end as these were the only two that could compete with another lol. And even then the power struggle between BH and Jedi continuted to wage war in the forums for years.
Sure, having a jedi was cool, i had one, part of the reason i got the game was because i wanted to have a jedi, im sure alot of people felt that way to begin with. But before the dark times of the upgrades, i realised the game had soo much more socially and proffesion wise.
But just because jedi wont be controlled by players, doesnt mean they shouldnt be in the game.
In a way, they could develope the same type of live events we had on matrix online, where devs controlled niobe, agent gray, the frenchman, morpheus, ghost etc and came and gave us clues for a live event mission, or just to party. but in a new SWG it would be new secret sith lords, or master jedi's that survived the clone wars in hiding.
I know alot of people would whine about not being able to be a jedi, but if games dont learn from there mistakes, then they are doomed to follow the same path to the dark side
Personally, I am completely convinced that this secret BioWare Sci-Fi MMO is in fact Mass Effect. I fyou think about all the stuff going on in that game... seems like an aweful big waste of time to use it on a Single Player RPG. Sure, it's BioWare, and they give out some serious goods... but come on. The stuff they're talking about, it might as well be XCOM all over again - the most complex game ever created. I know Mass Effect has it's own story line and stuff, but really... so what? It could be a disguise ya know?
Anyhoo, I personally don't want a KOTOR online. Don't get me wrong, KOTOR was great. And any MMO based around that entire era, game system, mythos, etc would be great! But quite frankly, I don't want "Jedi Online". I just don't want it. I am so sick of Star Wars being ever insistantly reduced down to Jedi... I'm just pissed off about it now. Jedi has become a gimmic - a marketing ploy. If all they are going to do is have players create a Jedi with no room for variation, then I think it's a waste of time.
In all truth of the matter though, as far as the possibilities of BioWare making a Sta Wars MMO - it coudl really go either way. LA has always been good abotu keeping secrets, and they are the best at making things out to be a huge deal. But I am going to bet against it and say it's all a bunch of phooey.
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Maybe they licensed the firefly IP - that would make a nice alternative sci-fi space mmo.
But as has been mentioned, rumor has been flying about bioware's new title for a while, including posts here suggesting/wishing for a new star wars mmo. Star wars is fine and all.. but it's already been done, how ever good/bad you consider the result to be. It seems more logical that they would aim for something new, not just rehash the same old.
What he said.. just not as large.
They've confirmed it's an MMO.. that's all. At one point BEFORE that, a board mod at Bioware said they didn't like working with someone else's IP but QUICKLY recanted that. Proof they will was just announced with the Sonic the Hedgehog RPG.
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It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
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"Like Capt. Mal Reynolds stumbling in after a bar fight, the short-lived but much beloved sci-fi series Firefly will soon make an unexpected return, not as a TV show, but as a massively multiplayer online game.
Now that's shiny.
Multiverse, maker of a free MMO-creation platform, plans to announce Friday morning that it's struck a deal with Fox Licensing to turn the show into an MMORPG in the fashion of Star Wars Galaxies or Eve Online."
BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.
Letting dreams die, is a hard challenge indeed, but the healthy method none the less.
It is a fact, BioWare does not intend to work with foreign IPs, it just doesn't work out for them anymore. They don't get creative freedom, nor complete revenue. I know for sure they parted ways with LA in a sour way, but that's personal information, take it as you will. When the mod stated this very thing, it got recalled fast, but that was a question of prestige, not truth. There will be no KotOR MMO from BioWare, best deal with that. They are building two universes of their own, that should suffice.
And KotOR ... well, only thing I can tell you about KotOR is this. Before I played it, I hated Star Wars, and saw no imagination in it what so ever, considered typical american bull. KotOR made me watch all the movies (available at the time), it didn't change my artistic aspect, but made me respect BioWare, that is for sure. KotOR is the single most complex piece of art ever to take place in the SW universe, George Lucas has nothing on BioWare.
So whatever MMO they are doing, I am preordering, NOW!
If it is a KOTOR MMORPG I am there. But I doubt it will be a star wars mmo. I think it will be based on Fire and Ice. Sadly it won't be KOTOR> the only reports we find online are reports of rumors and no facts.
What he said.. just not as large.
They've confirmed it's an MMO.. that's all. At one point BEFORE that, a board mod at Bioware said they didn't like working with someone else's IP but QUICKLY recanted that. Proof they will was just announced with the Sonic the Hedgehog RPG.
it will be intresting to see what the Bioware MMO is.there are actually tons of possiblities. And we all know how rumors with Star wars goes... oh .. yeah... they were right ...no one believed NGE and Jedi as a starting class even after it went live ppl were still arguing the point.
As far as someone else saying why do a sw game when its been done, get a clue
300,000 accounts @ $ 50 buy in = $15 million
300,000 accounts @ $15/ mo = $4.5 million income / mo
and thats just saying what SWG was at peak, before MMO's had huge moster followings, now its more mainstream and larger audiance. there are millions of loyal Star WARs fans, the fact anyone at all still plays SWG is proof of that.
now a company like Bioware, make a quality MMO for Star wars IP...
could eaisly rival WoW... especially a KotOR - mmo
Id say if you go even half of the current 9 million in WOW active subs,
4.5 million accounts per month giving Bioware and LA monthly funds off accounts alone in the range of $67.5 million per month not to even mention intial buy in that would hit ridiculious numbers like $250 million buy in, is a pretty dam good reason to make a game that has been done before with a company that can actually make a dam good game like Bioware.
do you really need more motivation , especially in Lucas Arts view of things since they dont have anymore movies for that IP even whispered at.
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What he said.. just not as large.
They've confirmed it's an MMO.. that's all. At one point BEFORE that, a board mod at Bioware said they didn't like working with someone else's IP but QUICKLY recanted that. Proof they will was just announced with the Sonic the Hedgehog RPG.
it will be intresting to see what the Bioware MMO is.there are actually tons of possiblities. And we all know how rumors with Star wars goes... oh .. yeah... they were right ...no one believed NGE and Jedi as a starting class even after it went live ppl were still arguing the point.
As far as someone else saying why do a sw game when its been done, get a clue
300,000 accounts @ $ 50 buy in = $15 million
300,000 accounts @ $15/ mo = $4.5 million income / mo
and thats just saying what SWG was at peak, before MMO's had huge moster followings, now its more mainstream and larger audiance. there are millions of loyal Star WARs fans, the fact anyone at all still plays SWG is proof of that.
now a company like Bioware, make a quality MMO for Star wars IP...
could eaisly rival WoW... especially a KotOR - mmo
Id say if you go even half of the current 9 million in WOW active subs,
4.5 million accounts per month giving Bioware and LA monthly funds off accounts alone in the range of $67.5 million per month not to even mention intial buy in that would hit ridiculious numbers like $250 million buy in, is a pretty dam good reason to make a game that has been done before with a company that can actually make a dam good game like Bioware.
do you really need more motivation , especially in Lucas Arts view of things since they dont have anymore movies for that IP even whispered at.
/agree with Miataka...
Bioware makes really good games. KOTOR is the best RPG to date... It is by far the best SW game ever made... Mass Effect looks like it is going to be great as well... They simply know what they're doing.
There are millions of Star Wars fans. There are hundreds of thousands of SWG veterans. There IS a major market for a Star Wars MMO such as KOTOR.
if KOTOR is gonna be 'bout combat and PvP only it's not for me.. what I liked 'bout SWG was the diversity and mix/match of professions.
if KOTOR is gonna be mostly 'bout jedi then it's not my game again... I like jedi and think they are cool but also think they are too good and unfair compared to other combat classes... basically this new game doesn't sound like it's gonna be my cuppa tea.
SWG was perfect for me.. that's of course before they messed it up with CU/NGE
There isn't gonna be another Star Wars MMO for a long long time. At least 3-4 years. Usually people get wind of something 2 years before it launches.
I swear old SWG fans come on these forums and stalk them daily thinking there's going to be a new Star Wars MMO tomorrow. The industry just doesn't work that way. Play the old game (which I don't recommend), or find something else.
How do you know there will be no star wars mmorpg for 4 years.You have no proof and yet you know what bioware mmoprg is before they announce.So unless you can see in to the futher and bring proof that there will be no star wars mmoprg please dont say any thing at all.
See you in the dream..
The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
I found KOTOR to be fun and polished, but not exactly groundbreaking. The dialogue choices had been done long before by other companies, one good example being Deus Ex. The story was adequate but hardly mind-blowing; it read like a cheap SW paperback. The gameplay was fun but the worlds were all very obvious arenas... it felt very confined, even on the open dunes of Tatooine. I couldn't even free-look. Overall, very colorful, very polished, and entertaining, but not something that I look back on and think "amazing."
I'm not sure that a Bioware MMORPG based on KOTOR would have the "PC sophistication" found in pre-CU SWG. If anything, I'd expect it to appear on consoles, maybe later being ported to the PC, large TV fonts and clunky console GUI included.
edit: This is what I'm talking about. Improved visuals, but the song remains the same. Large fonts, elementary dialogue choices. A far cry from the brilliant dialogue of, say, the Fallout series.
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I heard that it was supposed to be a Neverwinter Nights MMO.And if it is a KOTOR mmo there is no room for 2 starwars mmo's dont get me wrong i love KOTOR they were great rpg's but i think it would be a bad idea since there is already a star wars mmo.I think neverwinter nighst would be great because it has great lore,background,and lands coming from the Forgotten realms series and there could be limitless content possibilities and you could see familiar faces like drizzt,bruenore,wulfgar,and more...but even if KoToR mmo comes out i'll prolly still play it.
I LOVE how people come on here and bash others for "discussing" the possibility of a Star Wars MMO. NOBODY knows what the future holds. Bioware could EASILY be making a KOTOR MMO or they could easily be making something else.
There are millions of Star Wars fans worldwide. There are NOW so many more people playing MMOs than there were in 2003 when SWG launched.
SWG: NGE is horrible and MOST of the people in the gaming world would agree. There is going to be another Star Wars MMO, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of WHEN, and WHO.
Concerning SWG, no-one but the campanies themselves truely know where to shift the majority of the blame, but some have speculated it to be LA.
So problems would still arise even if a different company bought the licience off LA. LA would still want its say in things.
Plus speaking of KOTOR I and II, LA pushed both releases of the game, which had a worse effect on the Sith lords, as the game wasnt finished and had some serious bugs within the code. If you look hard enough there are websites that even have the audio speech files of what would of been the final scenes of the game, but obdisan ran out of time because LA forced there hands.
There was going to be a droid planet also to destroy HK factory, probably other features that were also left out.
The Sith Lords was a very unpolished game compared to the first KOTOR, it was shorter, I had major freezes problems on Dantoonie, where i could move a frame ever 10 secs
So really, I believe that even if a KOTOR version was to be made for MMO, Bioware would not do it, they have even said in interviews that they would never work on another licienced game again, only there own titles.
Obidisan might be making a KOTOR 3 though, there has been speculation, i hope so
Meh, I don't think a KOTOR Online game is going to interest me. KOTOR 3 would/could/should be nice, but I'm not sure the KOTOR formula works for a MMO.
Jedi were cool in the movies because they were RARE and POWERFUL. Jedi were cool in KOTOR because they were RARE and POWERFUL. Any MMO based around Jedi is going to remove both of those attributes...Jedi will be as numerous as the stars and properly balanced for the masses, in other words: boring (see NGE).
I think they actually had Jedi right as the perma-death alpha-class, where only hard-core mofo's need apply. I never attempted Jedi in SWG (knew I didn't have the time), but they were actually cool early on. I suppose a KOTOR Online game could be similar to the successfull CoH/CoV, but would that type of game satiate a Star Wars fan? CoH's target audience is probably a little younger than a target Star Wars audience.
Also, I'm not sure the younger generation (or the coveted Asian market) is that into Star Wars anymore. My younger cousins certainly aren't...and who can blame 'em, as the prequels were so sh*tty.
I have no insider data, but I hope Bioware's MMO goes in a different direction.
If they just made a starwars game that took place after return of the jedi ep 6. Then luke would be the only jedi.
Players shouldnt have one ultimate class, SOE made a huge mistake choosing to implement jedi in SWG.
There was soo many combat proffesions but people ended up playing mostly BH and Jedi in the end as these were the only two that could compete with another lol. And even then the power struggle between BH and Jedi continuted to wage war in the forums for years.
Sure, having a jedi was cool, i had one, part of the reason i got the game was because i wanted to have a jedi, im sure alot of people felt that way to begin with. But before the dark times of the upgrades, i realised the game had soo much more socially and proffesion wise.
But just because jedi wont be controlled by players, doesnt mean they shouldnt be in the game.
In a way, they could develope the same type of live events we had on matrix online, where devs controlled niobe, agent gray, the frenchman, morpheus, ghost etc and came and gave us clues for a live event mission, or just to party. but in a new SWG it would be new secret sith lords, or master jedi's that survived the clone wars in hiding.
I know alot of people would whine about not being able to be a jedi, but if games dont learn from there mistakes, then they are doomed to follow the same path to the dark side
Personally, I am completely convinced that this secret BioWare Sci-Fi MMO is in fact Mass Effect. I fyou think about all the stuff going on in that game... seems like an aweful big waste of time to use it on a Single Player RPG. Sure, it's BioWare, and they give out some serious goods... but come on. The stuff they're talking about, it might as well be XCOM all over again - the most complex game ever created. I know Mass Effect has it's own story line and stuff, but really... so what? It could be a disguise ya know?
Anyhoo, I personally don't want a KOTOR online. Don't get me wrong, KOTOR was great. And any MMO based around that entire era, game system, mythos, etc would be great! But quite frankly, I don't want "Jedi Online". I just don't want it. I am so sick of Star Wars being ever insistantly reduced down to Jedi... I'm just pissed off about it now. Jedi has become a gimmic - a marketing ploy. If all they are going to do is have players create a Jedi with no room for variation, then I think it's a waste of time.
In all truth of the matter though, as far as the possibilities of BioWare making a Sta Wars MMO - it coudl really go either way. LA has always been good abotu keeping secrets, and they are the best at making things out to be a huge deal. But I am going to bet against it and say it's all a bunch of phooey.