I'll be honest, Im starting to LOVE coming into these forums and see posts like "Maturity level going to be low???", "Gameplay looks repetitive..." hahahaha. Good stuff OP.
Yea the models look SO plasticky and unfinished and stapled together.
These just look SO much more realistic!
Ok I really hope you weren't thinking straight when you posted this, because that was EXTREMELY low for you. Just because a few people who are regular on the WaR forums DOES NOT mean they're posting here to intentionally start shit with AoC fans. I hope you can under stand that through your thick fanboy head. I know it's rude by calling you out like this but I know there's a bunch of other people here that have done the same, as well as WaR fans. If you keep dismissing posts that don't agree with your zealous fanatical idea don't instantly attack back, people are here to give reasons on why they don't or do like AoCs graphics. They're NOT here to try and start a flame war.
You know the game isn't even released or finished yet so you really don't know what the final product is. I'm pumped for this game. DX10 and my Geforce 8800 GTX should make this game worth playing. Just wait for the final product, Open Beta or trial to see what it really looks like. Look at Warhammer Online and LoTRo. They didn't have all the graphics implemented during beta. So what make Conan different?
Im not impressed either tbh. I like WAR graphics better, i just think the character models look cooler with WAR. Im not saying AOC graphics suck though. Anyone who says that is lying.
Yea the models look SO plasticky and unfinished and stapled together.
These just look SO much more realistic! /snip the oversized/over-pissing people off picture
Ok I really hope you weren't thinking straight when you posted this, because that was EXTREMELY low for you. Just because a few people who are regular on the WaR forums DOES NOT mean they're posting here to intentionally start shit with AoC fans. I hope you can under stand that through your thick fanboy head. I know it's rude by calling you out like this but I know there's a bunch of other people here that have done the same, as well as WaR fans. If you keep dismissing posts that don't agree with your zealous fanatical idea don't instantly attack back, people are here to give reasons on why they don't or do like AoCs graphics. They're NOT here to try and start a flame war.
Actually I had a massive headache this morning, so I may not have been. No seriously. To reply, I was just trolling a troll post. This forum is FULL of trolling right now, for some insane reason. You know, the whole 'fight fire with fire' thing. That and the OP's post made me LMAO when you consider the shitty level of modeling and model detail in the biggest MMOG out there. I didn't necessarily mean to throw a flame against WAR in there, that was just the closest pic at hand that showed the models from WoW in it. It wasn't ment to piss off the WAR fans, of which I am one.
To finish, the OP's pointless little thread wasn't a troll post? If you say so.
If the Op was complaining over and over about, and wasn't budging on his opinion then yes. I would agree it was a troll post, but it hasn't happened so far, so using the old guilty till proven innocent won't really work, not to offend. If you're gunna use fire to fight fire too, try using some more pizzaz then artwork of WoW and WaR.
I knew it. I'm not the only one who sees that the graphics is below average. I took another look again at the screenshots and videos. And i can say i didn't like it.
I think You are BLIND and if You don't like AoC go to WaR site and troll there.
I knew it. I'm not the only one who sees that the graphics is below average. I took another look again at the screenshots and videos. And i can say i didn't like it.
I think You are BLIND and if You don't like AoC go to WaR site and troll there.
I wouldn't call the below average, because...what average should there be? The Average between LotRO and WoW? AoC looks better than that.
No doubt, AoCs Graphics ARE good... but I'm just not impressed by them... to me, they sorta lack the "Oh, cool!"-Factor of some sort. I dunno if AoC features some sort of this as well, but I personally was majorly impressed when a WAR Video showed up where an entire mountainslide gets bombed, and buries an orc encampment with gigantic rocks. You know, stuff that makes you say: "Whow, now that was cool"...
AoC will have a gigantic technical advantage over WAR, WoW, LotRO and whatever else, and that's the DX10 Support. Could also be a major turn-off for subscribers though, even when it's not mandatory.
Some of you might have heard about a hypothesis called the "Uncanny Valley". It is by a Japanese roboticist called Masahiro Mori and primarily deals with robotics. In particular, the human response to the robots' degree of likeness to humankind.
*Quite roughly*, the hypothesis goes likes this:
Initially, in a construct that's obviously not too much like a human being, the human-like aspects tend to get noticed first, generating empathy. We find it cute that they do look like us in some aspects.
On the other hand, there is a threshold to this... Once a robot steps over that threshold and becomes *too human-like*, we tend to notice the aspects that just feel "wrong" with it, thus generating some sense of repulsion. We find it uncanny.
I know it's not the same thing, but maybe our response to game graphics goes a bit like this. Meaning: When a game goes for "realism" in depicting humans, we tend to first notice what's "wrong" with them, whereas we are a bit more comfortable with cartoon-like representations in this respect (of course, having recognizably non-human species might help, too).
So games like Age of Conan going for that realism have it a bit harder in the artwork *and* graphics department.
Some of you might have heard about a hypothesis called the "Uncanny Valley". It is by a Japanese roboticist called Masahiro Mori and primarily deals with robotics. In particular, the human response to the robots' degree of likeness to humankind. *Quite roughly*, the hypothesis goes likes this: Initially, in a construct that's obviously not too much like a human being, the human-like aspects tend to get noticed first, generating empathy. We find it cute that they do look like us in some aspects. On the other hand, there is a threshold to this... Once a robot steps over that threshold and becomes *too human-like*, we tend to notice the aspects that just feel "wrong" with it, thus generating some sense of repulsion. We find it uncanny. I know it's not the same thing, but maybe our response to game graphics goes a bit like this. Meaning: When a game goes for "realism" in depicting humans, we tend to first notice what's "wrong" with them, whereas we are a bit more comfortable with cartoon-like representations in this respect (of course, having recognizably non-human species might help, too). So games like Age of Conan going for that realism have it a bit harder in the artwork *and* graphics department.
Yeah well... I dunno if above plays into it... but when I see so-called "realisitc" Graphics... well they aren't even CLOSE to being realistic (why do Barbarians have Shaved Legs, btw?), they are bland, look like plastic, lack the detail that would make 'em realistic. Same with Trees, Leafs, Grass, Houses, Caves, everything. It looks good, but not realistic.
And since a realistic look can't be achieved at the moment (and some years to come, I wager), I'd rather like to see unrealistic graphics on purpose, i.e. exaggerated, stylized.
Im not impressed either tbh. I like WAR graphics better, i just think the character models look cooler with WAR. Im not saying AOC graphics suck though. Anyone who says that is lying.
I agree with you. Yes the AoC environment looks very nice but the WAR graphics seem much more unique and interesting to look at. I also think the character models in WAR have a much smoother aspect in them instead of AoCs.
I have to agree somepoints of the graphics are ok such as the armour [tho it could do with some wear and tear such as a dent and amybee some rust spots. But i do feel the skin still looks a bit shinny.Which is why i think people call it plasticky.
Im also concerned that witht he dark colours used in the scenery and the dak colours used in the charecter models that some of them may get lost in the bushes if you get what i mean.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
as an aoc fanboi, grahpics on people do seem unfinished especially in terms of tones on faces. the enviroments beat oblivion by lots though, i haven't seen better enviroments and lets not forget the demos they show are in dx9!
On a technical level I think that AoCs graphics are some of the best to be seen in the genre. However on a style level I do not like them at all, mainly because no matter how hard they try the technology still isnt able to recreate humans perfectly yet. So I dislike the realistic approach because it cant be done, so it always just looks akward. The character ends up looking disjointed from the world which is getting more and more beautiful with each generation of games.
Now if you stylize things, like WoW or WAR, then it doesnt bother me as much because everything fits together. Its like I once saw with some one who did special effects for movies said, we see humans everyday so when they create something thats not 100% human it is plainly obvious to any one unconsciously. They are getting close on some of the high end systems they use for movies, but its still irks me to see a digital person in a movie because its still so obvious.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
i dont know much about the game or its mechanics ..
but i dont understand what the hype about its graphics are ...
they dont look that great imho ...in fact, they dont look good at all ... very flat ... grainy .. and the body meshes of the characters look chunky and glued together ... they dont look smooth and intricately subdivded to me ...neither do they look like they will animate well
AoC graphics dont look good?
Im not a AC fanboi....but i have to say it have the best graphics so far......in a content. Yes, some korean grindfest MMOs have very nice graphics. But the gameplay is often so ridiculas that the graphics doesnt matter.
And there is no current MMO with better graphics then AoC
They say if you can run Oblivion, you can run AoC. Oblivion was a single player game. What happens when you introduce 20-100 other players into the area? Photorealistic graphics are great, but they've always run into problems when you get large numbers of players on screen unless they've followed the Asian MMO art and graphic style. I'm holding my reservations about AoC until I've seen it in action with Siege warfare like numbers of players.
Im not impressed either tbh. I like WAR graphics better, i just think the character models look cooler with WAR. Im not saying AOC graphics suck though. Anyone who says that is lying.
I agree with you. Yes the AoC environment looks very nice but the WAR graphics seem much more unique and interesting to look at. I also think the character models in WAR have a much smoother aspect in them instead of AoCs.
A War Fanbio dropped by.
You haven't looked at War's enviromental graphics then, because their about on par with World of Warcraft. Neat looking, but not incredibly realistic.
Im not impressed either tbh. I like WAR graphics better, i just think the character models look cooler with WAR. Im not saying AOC graphics suck though. Anyone who says that is lying.
I agree with you. Yes the AoC environment looks very nice but the WAR graphics seem much more unique and interesting to look at. I also think the character models in WAR have a much smoother aspect in them instead of AoCs.
A War Fanbio dropped by.
You haven't looked at War's enviromental graphics then, because their about on par with World of Warcraft. Neat looking, but not incredibly realistic.
I'm going to have to disagree with you here:
A.) AoC's character models are its graphical weak point, at least at the stage of development we're seeing in the relevant screenshots and videos. It likely has to do with the level of detail involved in skin tone editing in the character customization system. Oblivion had the same problem, it was hard to get skin that didn't look like crap. This probably will change for the better by the time launch comes, but in the meantime...
B.) Warhammer's graphics follow the opposite pattern, weaker environment, good character models. Overall, Warhammer is a major step up from WOW's graphic level, although both follow a simpler style of artistry. I don't like the style of graphics at all myself, but that doesn't make the two at all on par.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
Now, before you go on saying stuff about the graphics, please do remember that the game is in beta.
No game is going to be at it's best in it's beta, it's a given. The beta is made so that they can TEST what will work and won't. WAR nor AoC or any MMO out there will look perfect before it's launch date. Whether or not the person likes the graphics after the launch is strictly due to opinion.
Also, even though the graphics may not be perfect for some people, alot of people do enjoy the graphics, and just want something different than the whole "elf and dwarf" type of game. Just some food for thought.
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Hahahahahaha!
I'll be honest, Im starting to LOVE coming into these forums and see posts like "Maturity level going to be low???", "Gameplay looks repetitive..." hahahaha. Good stuff OP.
Maybe he was high when he wrote it.
Ok I really hope you weren't thinking straight when you posted this, because that was EXTREMELY low for you. Just because a few people who are regular on the WaR forums DOES NOT mean they're posting here to intentionally start shit with AoC fans. I hope you can under stand that through your thick fanboy head. I know it's rude by calling you out like this but I know there's a bunch of other people here that have done the same, as well as WaR fans. If you keep dismissing posts that don't agree with your zealous fanatical idea don't instantly attack back, people are here to give reasons on why they don't or do like AoCs graphics. They're NOT here to try and start a flame war.
You know the game isn't even released or finished yet so you really don't know what the final product is. I'm pumped for this game. DX10 and my Geforce 8800 GTX should make this game worth playing. Just wait for the final product, Open Beta or trial to see what it really looks like. Look at Warhammer Online and LoTRo. They didn't have all the graphics implemented during beta. So what make Conan different?
Im not impressed either tbh. I like WAR graphics better, i just think the character models look cooler with WAR. Im not saying AOC graphics suck though. Anyone who says that is lying.
Ok I really hope you weren't thinking straight when you posted this, because that was EXTREMELY low for you. Just because a few people who are regular on the WaR forums DOES NOT mean they're posting here to intentionally start shit with AoC fans. I hope you can under stand that through your thick fanboy head. I know it's rude by calling you out like this but I know there's a bunch of other people here that have done the same, as well as WaR fans. If you keep dismissing posts that don't agree with your zealous fanatical idea don't instantly attack back, people are here to give reasons on why they don't or do like AoCs graphics. They're NOT here to try and start a flame war.
Actually I had a massive headache this morning, so I may not have been. No seriously. To reply, I was just trolling a troll post. This forum is FULL of trolling right now, for some insane reason. You know, the whole 'fight fire with fire' thing. That and the OP's post made me LMAO when you consider the shitty level of modeling and model detail in the biggest MMOG out there. I didn't necessarily mean to throw a flame against WAR in there, that was just the closest pic at hand that showed the models from WoW in it. It wasn't ment to piss off the WAR fans, of which I am one.
To finish, the OP's pointless little thread wasn't a troll post? If you say so.
If the Op was complaining over and over about, and wasn't budging on his opinion then yes. I would agree it was a troll post, but it hasn't happened so far, so using the old guilty till proven innocent won't really work, not to offend. If you're gunna use fire to fight fire too, try using some more pizzaz then artwork of WoW and WaR.
I knew it. I'm not the only one who sees that the graphics is below average.
I took another look again at the screenshots and videos. And i can say i didn't like it.
I think You are BLIND and if You don't like AoC go to WaR site and troll there.
I think You are BLIND and if You don't like AoC go to WaR site and troll there.
I wouldn't call the below average, because...what average should there be? The Average between LotRO and WoW? AoC looks better than that.
No doubt, AoCs Graphics ARE good... but I'm just not impressed by them... to me, they sorta lack the "Oh, cool!"-Factor of some sort. I dunno if AoC features some sort of this as well, but I personally was majorly impressed when a WAR Video showed up where an entire mountainslide gets bombed, and buries an orc encampment with gigantic rocks. You know, stuff that makes you say: "Whow, now that was cool"...
AoC will have a gigantic technical advantage over WAR, WoW, LotRO and whatever else, and that's the DX10 Support. Could also be a major turn-off for subscribers though, even when it's not mandatory.
We'll see.
Some of you might have heard about a hypothesis called the "Uncanny Valley". It is by a Japanese roboticist called Masahiro Mori and primarily deals with robotics. In particular, the human response to the robots' degree of likeness to humankind.
*Quite roughly*, the hypothesis goes likes this:
Initially, in a construct that's obviously not too much like a human being, the human-like aspects tend to get noticed first, generating empathy. We find it cute that they do look like us in some aspects.
On the other hand, there is a threshold to this... Once a robot steps over that threshold and becomes *too human-like*, we tend to notice the aspects that just feel "wrong" with it, thus generating some sense of repulsion. We find it uncanny.
I know it's not the same thing, but maybe our response to game graphics goes a bit like this. Meaning: When a game goes for "realism" in depicting humans, we tend to first notice what's "wrong" with them, whereas we are a bit more comfortable with cartoon-like representations in this respect (of course, having recognizably non-human species might help, too).
So games like Age of Conan going for that realism have it a bit harder in the artwork *and* graphics department.
Yeah well... I dunno if above plays into it... but when I see so-called "realisitc" Graphics... well they aren't even CLOSE to being realistic (why do Barbarians have Shaved Legs, btw?), they are bland, look like plastic, lack the detail that would make 'em realistic. Same with Trees, Leafs, Grass, Houses, Caves, everything. It looks good, but not realistic.
And since a realistic look can't be achieved at the moment (and some years to come, I wager), I'd rather like to see unrealistic graphics on purpose, i.e. exaggerated, stylized.
I agree with you. Yes the AoC environment looks very nice but the WAR graphics seem much more unique and interesting to look at. I also think the character models in WAR have a much smoother aspect in them instead of AoCs.
I have to agree somepoints of the graphics are ok such as the armour [tho it could do with some wear and tear such as a dent and amybee some rust spots. But i do feel the skin still looks a bit shinny.Which is why i think people call it plasticky.
Im also concerned that witht he dark colours used in the scenery and the dak colours used in the charecter models that some of them may get lost in the bushes if you get what i mean.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
Who cares about your opinion. You haven't played this game yet.
I will full enyoj this game on my quad beast on max graf.on with my 30" w Dell.
as an aoc fanboi, grahpics on people do seem unfinished especially in terms of tones on faces. the enviroments beat oblivion by lots though, i haven't seen better enviroments and lets not forget the demos they show are in dx9!
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On a technical level I think that AoCs graphics are some of the best to be seen in the genre. However on a style level I do not like them at all, mainly because no matter how hard they try the technology still isnt able to recreate humans perfectly yet. So I dislike the realistic approach because it cant be done, so it always just looks akward. The character ends up looking disjointed from the world which is getting more and more beautiful with each generation of games.
Now if you stylize things, like WoW or WAR, then it doesnt bother me as much because everything fits together. Its like I once saw with some one who did special effects for movies said, we see humans everyday so when they create something thats not 100% human it is plainly obvious to any one unconsciously. They are getting close on some of the high end systems they use for movies, but its still irks me to see a digital person in a movie because its still so obvious.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
Im not a AC fanboi....but i have to say it have the best graphics so far......in a content. Yes, some korean grindfest MMOs have very nice graphics. But the gameplay is often so ridiculas that the graphics doesnt matter.
And there is no current MMO with better graphics then AoC
My only concern is this...
They say if you can run Oblivion, you can run AoC. Oblivion was a single player game. What happens when you introduce 20-100 other players into the area? Photorealistic graphics are great, but they've always run into problems when you get large numbers of players on screen unless they've followed the Asian MMO art and graphic style. I'm holding my reservations about AoC until I've seen it in action with Siege warfare like numbers of players.
I agree with you. Yes the AoC environment looks very nice but the WAR graphics seem much more unique and interesting to look at. I also think the character models in WAR have a much smoother aspect in them instead of AoCs.
A War Fanbio dropped by.
You haven't looked at War's enviromental graphics then, because their about on par with World of Warcraft. Neat looking, but not incredibly realistic.
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I agree with you. Yes the AoC environment looks very nice but the WAR graphics seem much more unique and interesting to look at. I also think the character models in WAR have a much smoother aspect in them instead of AoCs.
A War Fanbio dropped by.
You haven't looked at War's enviromental graphics then, because their about on par with World of Warcraft. Neat looking, but not incredibly realistic.
I'm going to have to disagree with you here:
A.) AoC's character models are its graphical weak point, at least at the stage of development we're seeing in the relevant screenshots and videos. It likely has to do with the level of detail involved in skin tone editing in the character customization system. Oblivion had the same problem, it was hard to get skin that didn't look like crap. This probably will change for the better by the time launch comes, but in the meantime...
B.) Warhammer's graphics follow the opposite pattern, weaker environment, good character models. Overall, Warhammer is a major step up from WOW's graphic level, although both follow a simpler style of artistry. I don't like the style of graphics at all myself, but that doesn't make the two at all on par.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Now that is funny.
Now, before you go on saying stuff about the graphics, please do remember that the game is in beta.
No game is going to be at it's best in it's beta, it's a given. The beta is made so that they can TEST what will work and won't. WAR nor AoC or any MMO out there will look perfect before it's launch date. Whether or not the person likes the graphics after the launch is strictly due to opinion.
Also, even though the graphics may not be perfect for some people, alot of people do enjoy the graphics, and just want something different than the whole "elf and dwarf" type of game. Just some food for thought.
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