Yeah, there are a lot of gameplay videos of a player fighting monsters. They're dev demos, and not actually a player playing. Though they still get the same effect across.
Just search Youtube for Age of Conan and you should find several.
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Good video but i'm woried about what i just saw. I would imagine, since this is an E3 demonstration, that the game must be running on a monster computer right, then did you noticed all that hitching, the guy run around the world and the game hitch a lot . The group run around a town and the game freeze completly for half a second, that's bad.
Second thing, it seems that all the special moves the fighter is doing are preventing him from moving, running. A good example is when the interviewer told him to get in the last monster chamber and the character seems to be stuck in place and had to wait for all the special moves to stop before being able to move forward.
For the rest i like what i saw and will certainly buy the game.
Good video but i'm woried about what i just saw. I would imagine, since this is an E3 demonstration, that the game must be running on a monster computer right, then did you noticed all that hitching, the guy run around the world and the game hitch a lot . The group run around a town and the game freeze completly for half a second, that's bad.
Second thing, it seems that all the special moves the fighter is doing are preventing him from moving, running. A good example is when the interviewer told him to get in the last monster chamber and the character seems to be stuck in place and had to wait for all the special moves to stop before being able to move forward.
For the rest i like what i saw and will certainly buy the game.
That seemed like normal rubberbanding caused by a awful connection...All game devs and press who were in E3 complained about the poopy internet connection the convention keepers had arranged...not to forget that the demo server was in Norway.
Good video but i'm woried about what i just saw. I would imagine, since this is an E3 demonstration, that the game must be running on a monster computer right, then did you noticed all that hitching, the guy run around the world and the game hitch a lot . The group run around a town and the game freeze completly for half a second, that's bad.
Second thing, it seems that all the special moves the fighter is doing are preventing him from moving, running. A good example is when the interviewer told him to get in the last monster chamber and the character seems to be stuck in place and had to wait for all the special moves to stop before being able to move forward.
For the rest i like what i saw and will certainly buy the game.
That seemed like normal rubberbanding caused by a awful connection...All game devs and press who were in E3 complained about the poopy internet connection the convention keepers had arranged...not to forget that the demo server was in Norway.
Can you show us some in-game GVG-PVP BK footage.You said they have a Dynamic combat system that wont include button bashing.Surely with 3 months to go you can find PLENTY of GVG-PVP footage.
Are you telling me that the E3 footage is all they have lol.Blame it on a bad connection so show us some great footage using their own Servers,it should`nt be to hard with all these supposed people in beta?
Can you show us some in-game GVG-PVP BK footage.You said they have a Dynamic combat system that wont include button bashing.Surely with 3 months to go you can find PLENTY of GVG-PVP footage.
Are you telling me that the E3 footage is all they have lol.Blame it on a bad connection so show us some great footage using their own Servers,it should`nt be to hard with all these supposed people in beta?
Yay for spreading misinformation. Now, if I didn't know they can hire people better capable of doing this job, I'd say you're a viral marketer.
To debunk all the nasty information: there are not many people in beta. In fact less than 1000. Family and friends, Q&A, and the technical beta invitees.
The E3 footage is NOT all they have, they released footage on a regular basis, and as one that follows, the progress of the game is visible, so are the changes they brought to it.
Fact: 3 mbit line was used at E3, and press was on the same bandwidth.
Like stated before, they intend to release the PvP footage to the public at the Leipzig games convention starting august the 23.
By this time you have proved you know little about the game, and still attack it oft, simply put that shows lack of wisdom.
Can you show us some in-game GVG-PVP BK footage.You said they have a Dynamic combat system that wont include button bashing.Surely with 3 months to go you can find PLENTY of GVG-PVP footage.
Are you telling me that the E3 footage is all they have lol.Blame it on a bad connection so show us some great footage using their own Servers,it should`nt be to hard with all these supposed people in beta?
Yay for spreading misinformation. Now, if I didn't know they can hire people better capable of doing this job, I'd say you're a viral marketer.
To debunk all the nasty information: there are not many people in beta. In fact less than 1000. Family and friends, Q&A, and the technical beta invitees.
The E3 footage is NOT all they have, they released footage on a regular basis, and as one that follows, the progress of the game is visible, so are the changes they brought to it.
Fact: 3 mbit line was used at E3, and press was on the same bandwidth.
Like stated before, they intend to release the PvP footage to the public at the Leipzig games convention starting august the 23.
By this time you have proved you know little about the game, and still attack it oft, simply put that shows lack of wisdom.
Hmm i know as much about the game as you being a member of there Forums since late 2004.Again stop avoiding the question..SHOW ME THE VIDS OF THE THINGS YOU CLAIM.
I am simply asking for the proof,now you cant or don't have it so how can you say all these things about AOC when you have seen NOTHING backing up your claims.
I have seen plenty of VID of AOC but NONE back up what you are claiming.Show me GVG-PVP-BK footage please.We already know about PVE and AOC as you put it is meant to be a PVP game or is it a PVE with GVG-PVP thrown in at the END when you have GRINDED your self to death ON THE MOSTLY PVE part of the game.
Hmm i know as much about the game as you being a member of there Forums since late 2004.Again stop avoiding the question..SHOW ME THE VIDS OF THE THINGS YOU CLAIM.
I am simply asking for the proof,now you cant or don't have it so how can you say all these things about AOC when you have seen NOTHING backing up your claims.
Did it ever occur to you, that some things I might know, I might not tell... not that I am implying anything here, either!
These guys at Funcom have never lied to me, and thus I take what they say for granted. Not as much as I take BioWare's word for granted, but close.
I don't need to see VIDs. I trust them, and have my reasons to do so.
Hmm i know as much about the game as you being a member of there Forums since late 2004.Again stop avoiding the question..SHOW ME THE VIDS OF THE THINGS YOU CLAIM.
I am simply asking for the proof,now you cant or don't have it so how can you say all these things about AOC when you have seen NOTHING backing up your claims.
Did it ever occur to you, that some things I might know, I might not tell... not that I am implying anything here, either!
These guys at Funcom have never lied to me, and thus I take what they say for granted. Not as much as I take BioWare's word for granted, but close.
I don't need to see VIDs. I trust them, and have my reasons to do so.
LOL so now you use the reverse psychology by implying you might now stuff others dont lol.Why is it so easy to show VIDS of PVE but none WHATSOEVER of PVP-GVG-BK footage.
Are you saying that there SYSTEM is so dynamic they cant show it off lol? why because someone will steal the ideas.Just admit it that you CANT find ONE single VID backing up your claims.
Again SHOW ME THE PROFF without making excuses please.You are the one ho said all this stuff so please back up your claims with Proof.
Hmm i know as much about the game as you being a member of there Forums since late 2004.Again stop avoiding the question..SHOW ME THE VIDS OF THE THINGS YOU CLAIM.
I am simply asking for the proof,now you cant or don't have it so how can you say all these things about AOC when you have seen NOTHING backing up your claims. I have seen plenty of VID of AOC but NONE back up what you are claiming.Show me GVG-PVP-BK footage please.We already know about PVE and AOC as you put it is meant to be a PVP game or is it a PVE with GVG-PVP thrown in at the END when you have GRINDED your self to death ON THE MOSTLY PVE part of the game.
Anubisss quit trolling. First of all the official forums didn't EXIST in 2004, so thats a blatant lie. And stop yelling, it makes you look like a 2 year old man, seriously. Go back to what ever game you are playing/following because it clearly isn't AoC. You want PvP videos, check youtube. But you a troll so I know you won't. So wait for the Leipzig GC when they plan to show off siege PvP.
I'm not even going to comment on that last run-on sentence. If you followed the game as much as you claim you do, you'd know everything said in that last line is false.
Hmm if not 2004 then very early 2005.Go to the AOC forums and i will leave you a message there.Now like i said SHOW ME THESE PVP-GVG vids.The youtube VID show nothing of this PVP-GVG dynamic system lol.Can you show me this vid on youtube cos you obviously no where to find it.
So are you saying that after all this time in development the only time they can show what they claim is at Leipzig?
I say it again there are no VID showing what you Claim.Beacuse i have VALID reasons to Doubt what the dev state it makes me a 2 year old man lol.Who is yelling? wow you must have pretty good hearing to come to the conclusion i am yelling.
The truth is NO ONE can prove anything the devs are saying and further more YOU cant either.
Now prove me to be the troll you are claiming by showing me these GREAT PVP-GVG BK vid you say are on youtube.
Can you show us some in-game GVG-PVP BK footage.You said they have a Dynamic combat system that wont include button bashing.Surely with 3 months to go you can find PLENTY of GVG-PVP footage.
Are you telling me that the E3 footage is all they have lol.Blame it on a bad connection so show us some great footage using their own Servers,it should`nt be to hard with all these supposed people in beta?
Yay for spreading misinformation. Now, if I didn't know they can hire people better capable of doing this job, I'd say you're a viral marketer.
To debunk all the nasty information: there are not many people in beta. In fact less than 1000. Family and friends, Q&A, and the technical beta invitees.
The E3 footage is NOT all they have, they released footage on a regular basis, and as one that follows, the progress of the game is visible, so are the changes they brought to it.
Fact: 3 mbit line was used at E3, and press was on the same bandwidth.
Like stated before, they intend to release the PvP footage to the public at the Leipzig games convention starting august the 23.
By this time you have proved you know little about the game, and still attack it oft, simply put that shows lack of wisdom.
Is there really that few people in the beta? With 3 months left, that's kind of disheartening. A lot of games suffer from a weak beta, and if they still only have less than 1000 in beta, I think we can expect to see the release date pushed back.
Actually all of the footage released has been nothing but PvE except for one leaked beta footage video. So he's not really spreading misinformation.
It's very true that there are no GvG or siege videos out there. Hopefully this will all drastically change at Leipzig.
One thing that was pointed out earlier that I didn't think of, but now that I go back and watch the footage is that attacking prevents you from being able to move. You can only turn while doing combat moves. This means that once you're in a combo there's no way to evade anyone until the animation is finished. I see this being very cumbersome during hectic PvP gameplay.
The other thing that I noticed while watching the E3 footage. If you watch the guy with the pole arm, and you pay attention to the attacks as they're being executed, the swings are not a direct result of a button being pressed, and only after all the buttons in the combo are pressed does he execute the multi move combo attack.
This is contradictory to what they have previously said. The devs stated that you would be linking combos together on-the-fly, but that video shows combos only being done once the entire string is completed. It's hard to explain, but if you watch the E3 vid where they're showing the pole arm combo moves you can easily see what I'm referring to.
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How ignorant, and self-centered do you have to be, to claim, that which you have not seen, does not exist?! Logically, that which you have not seen might exist.
Anubisss you started this conversation with agressively claiming, AoC has no real PvP. You backed that up with nothing at all, not one single shred of evidence. I reacted, and you have been hysterical ever since, being all macho agressive, yet lacked reasoning. But that's okay, after all, you are but a troll.
The developers claimed it is there, and judging by their previous work, if they said it is there, then I believe it. It is called brand.
Oh, and Anubisss, cut out the caps lock, it actually never helps.
You see, I am confident enough in AoC, that I don't have to go over to the WAR forums and bash it, unlike you, who are probably insecure about WAR and needs to come here acting all tough and macho. Take a brake, go chase some girls, but remember, don't shout at them, like us, they don't like that too much.
Forums opened up in march 2005. I was lurking for about a year myself, and then joined in 06. My name on those forums is the same as here, Fion, so PM me if you like. Now, vids. You need PROOOOOF, and ONLY videos can offer such PROOF! Right? Well WAR hasn't shown off their Elven races yet. They've shown artwork, they've shown a CG video with elves, but no video of the ACTUAL THING. They also haven't shown most of the realm cities. Again artwork, talked about them, showed where they are, but NOT VIDEO! Therefor, they must not exist. It's all lies propaganda and bullsh*t. WAR HAS NO ELVES!
I'm just using your logic here. And.. your style of posting inflammatory statements.
Oh and the yellowing.. capitol letters, in forums such as these, are considered yelling, and your doing a lot of it. That.. is what makes you look like a 2 year old. You of course have valid concerns, but you come off as a flame-bating newb.
Ahem. Just since you brought WAR into the conversation when no one was talking about WAR. A High Elf can be seen in some of the games conventions footage. It's just an NPC high elf, but there is one. Not that it matters. So you're propaganda comment is kind of a moot point.
Here's where your point fails bringing WAR into the conversation. They say they're showing the Elves for the first time at Leipzig in August. Now I believe they're going to. Why? Well if you go through their Newsletter archives, there's always a little blurb at the right that says "Coming next month!" and it lists what they're going to be showing in the next month, and guess what? They show it. Every single time.
If you say "Have you seen Public Quests?" I can say yes, and there are several reviews from people that have played the public quests.
If you say "Have you seen RvR Scenarios?" I can say yes, and there are several reviews from people that have played the rvr scenarios.
If you say "Have you seen PvP in AoC?" I have to say no, no I haven't seen the PvP in AoC, and no one's played it outside of their company.
They come up and say "We're pushing the release date back because we're going to be going back through the Greenskin and Dwarf starting areas." And you know what I see just below that and hear from people that have played in the new starting areas? They say that the starting areas are awesome (the people that have played them). They show videos of these starting areas and what you can do in them.
If AoC had said "Look we have bar brawls. Look here are two guys fighting in a bar brawl." Then I would say, awesome. I can't wait to do that. But they haven't shown it. They've just given us walls of text.
Same with their classes. Let me show you how AoC describes a class and how WAR describes a class, so that you can see what I mean when I refer to "seeing" something.
Here's AoC's latest class description for the Guardian
Notice how there's a page of text, but the only screenshot is a tiny thumbnail in the corner.
Here's WAR's latest class description for the Marauder.
Notice that there is concept art and a screenshot included.
Now I have no idea what the various armor progressions of a Guardian look like, but I know what some armor options are from the low levels of a Marauder to the higher levels of the Marauder.
I wouldn't have even written this wall of text except that you put your foot in your mouth when comparing the amount of information that WAR has out there to the amount of information that AoC has out there.
I don't mind anyone defending the game that they're avidly following, but please don't make fun of another game (especially when you're incredibly wrong) in order to prove a point. You just wind up looking foolish.
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Just put it this way WAR is doing a very good job at advertising while AoC is not. We all want more info just so we dont fall into vanguard trap again thats why we complain, compare , and b1tch about the games.
Precisely. My only problem is that PvP is supposed to (or at least this is the impression I've received) be at the center of AoC. If this is the case, then they've shown us everything except what's supposed to be at the center.
This makes no sense to me. If I'm making a PvP game, I'm going to show PvP, PvP, PvP, and then a little PvE. Not the other way around. Which is why a lot of people are getting skeptical about the game's development. All we've seen is PvE, PvE, some scenery, some NPCs attacking a player built City, more PvE, a 24 man raid, more PvE. I mean when will the PvE stop?
If the answer is Leipzig I really hope they stick to that. The outcome of the game though is starting to lean towards a pushed back release.
I mean in one of the reviews that is linked to from the AoC community site, the reviewer said that they still hadn't figured out how they expect people to talk to one another when combat requires both hands. That seems to be a pretty huge problem. If the combat is supposed to be organized and in formations, how are people going to communicate if they aren't in a guild that has a Vent or TS server set up?
It's things like this that they obviously haven't figured out that make me wonder about a release in only 3 months.
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You see, I am confident enough in AoC, that I don't have to go over to the WAR forums and bash it, unlike you, who are probably insecure about WAR and needs to come here acting all tough and macho. Take a brake, go chase some girls, but remember, don't shout at them, like us, they don't like that too much.
Man you have the nerve to call me a kid? I am not bashing AOC and if you read my post you will see that. Because you could not prove all the things you claim this game has, i must be insecure lol.
In future before you make such Claims, have the right info or vids to back it.I cant wait to see what VIDs they throw at you at Leipzig because so far they are not that impressive.
Girls lol i like Women not Girls Mr kiddo.
See you in 3 weeks time lol,it will be very interesting to see what excuse you come up with when these so called GVG-PVP-BK vids are not quite what you expected.
Like i said,so far AOC has shown nothing but PVE footage and for a game that is meant to be PVP as the main concept it is sadly lacking.Go back to the start of the production and early forum threads and you will see AOC was put over as PVE game which will have some form of PVP.Now bring in WAR and all of a sudden AOC is a PVP game with some PVE.
Seems like a desperate attempt to keep in line with WAR.FC know if they don't advertise AOC as PVP they have no hope against WAR.
You see, I am confident enough in AoC, that I don't have to go over to the WAR forums and bash it, unlike you, who are probably insecure about WAR and needs to come here acting all tough and macho. Take a brake, go chase some girls, but remember, don't shout at them, like us, they don't like that too much.
Man you have the nerve to call me a kid? I am not bashing AOC and if you read my post you will see that. Because you could not prove all the things you claim this game has, i must be insecure lol.
In future before you make such Claims, have the right info or vids to back it.I cant wait to see what VIDs they throw at you at Leipzig because so far they are not that impressive.
Girls lol i like Women not Girls Mr kiddo.
See you in 3 weeks time lol,it will be very interesting to see what excuse you come up with when these so called GVG-PVP-BK vids are not quite what you expected.
Like i said,so far AOC has shown nothing but PVE footage and for a game that is meant to be PVP as the main concept it is sadly lacking.Go back to the start of the production and early forum threads and you will see AOC was put over as PVE game which will have some form of PVP.Now bring in WAR and all of a sudden AOC is a PVP game with some PVE.
Seems like a desperate attempt to keep in line with WAR.FC know if they don't advertise AOC as PVP they have no hope against WAR.
Well, my definition of proof in the case of FC doesn't necessarily have to include VIDs. And like you just said, info, is enough. And they I have given plenty of.
Hey, you might like women, for all I care, but the question is, do women like you? ... or is it just girls ...
AoC was always a PvP heavy title. That doesn't mean it lacks PvE. It is both. And FYI they didn't show much of the quests and branching dialogue choices either, they just showed off combat. Age of Conan is a mix, it is there to satisfy most needs, ranging from PvE to PvP, from casual to hardcore. But of course, since you are there from the beginning, you know this, don't you?
And about the claim that PvP gained accent only after WAR was advertised as the be all end all of PvP: you claim they did this, cause otherwise they could not have stood against WAR. Well, this might all sound new to you, but here goes economics: the basics. It's all about subscriptions, that's what companies hunt. Long term it can only be gained by quality. A company takes a look at the surroundings, and tries to offer something in their product that is somewhat unique, cause the product then has a larger take at the target audience. It would be stupid to go up against another product on a realm that is already occupied (this was PvP in WAR's case), cause there would be less chance of success, putting the accent on the same thing. Furthermore the online player's large majority play PvE, so in this case it would be doubly stupid to go fight on a realm that is not only occupied, but little as well.
Unless ... unless you had very solid PvP. A very solid and somewhat unique take at PvP. Sound familiar? yeah, AoC.
And in AoC's case roughly the same could be said about it's PvE part. I completely agree with their philosophy here.
And back to your insecurity, cause that is the root of this newest theory of yours (the one where AoC slaps on PvP just to be competitive in the market to surely be dominated by WAR). This is already more than insecurity, this is paranoia already. Is the atmosphere on the WAR forums so discomforting, that you must come here and bash another game to feel ok?
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Originally posted by anubisss
Originally posted by random11
You see, I am confident enough in AoC, that I don't have to go over to the WAR forums and bash it, unlike you, who are probably insecure about WAR and needs to come here acting all tough and macho. Take a brake, go chase some girls, but remember, don't shout at them, like us, they don't like that too much.
Man you have the nerve to call me a kid? I am not bashing AOC and if you read my post you will see that. Because you could not prove all the things you claim this game has, i must be insecure lol.
In future before you make such Claims, have the right info or vids to back it.I cant wait to see what VIDs they throw at you at Leipzig because so far they are not that impressive.
Girls lol i like Women not Girls Mr kiddo.
See you in 3 weeks time lol,it will be very interesting to see what excuse you come up with when these so called GVG-PVP-BK vids are not quite what you expected.
Like i said,so far AOC has shown nothing but PVE footage and for a game that is meant to be PVP as the main concept it is sadly lacking.Go back to the start of the production and early forum threads and you will see AOC was put over as PVE game which will have some form of PVP.Now bring in WAR and all of a sudden AOC is a PVP game with some PVE.
Seems like a desperate attempt to keep in line with WAR.FC know if they don't advertise AOC as PVP they have no hope against WAR.
Maybe they want it to be the best it can be before they show it off? Funcom does Beta different, its focused closed beta right now. Ever read this? http://mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/1349 beta style is changing.
anubisss are you generally interested in the game? Alot of your posts here do read as negative on AoC boards. The fact is GvG/ Seiges and BK fights are all on the way, I suspect you already know this, so I wonder why you start ranting for claims to see this things now. (esp. as you say you have seen lots of AoC stuff)
It is not suprising to see fans of "other" games posting here trying to milk the lack of info about some points of the game. You see I am content in knowing these elements are being polished / fine tuned, Funcom's 4th technical beta test is scheduled soon. I have the capacity to understand this, and that its not Open Beta yet.
There is no desperate attempts to keep in line with warhammer. I know for a fact (imo) looking for information about both games there is overall more on AoC, but there is more hands on with the public playing with warhammer.
Am I worried that one company does things different to the other? no.
Do I go rant on the war boards the lack of free actual content that is playable by hands on means at these game days? no.
Why should I? I could go post things, but I don't get a kick outta doing that kind of thing.
Im not posting here for yet another comparison but let me just say because war has or is having a more visual theme to its beta doesn't neccessarily mean Funcom is doing nothing. I don't feel then either you or I or anyone on these boards can comment to contrary. I don't think that you are in a position to critize something that hasn't been shown yet, you don't have the credentials sorry. You can have your opinion and have a guess, sure. But your already of the opinion that "See you in 3 weeks time lol,it will be very interesting to see what excuse you come up with when these so called GVG-PVP-BK vids are not quite what you expected." Please don't act all high and mighty or take stabs at people because of your presumption and opinion that things are not what you and a select few expected.
I am of the opinion I would like too see more info about these things too, but I will say since the start of the year I always thought I'd see them around the time of E3 or hopefully at E3 this year because in my mind it was about right with the time left until release. I can wait 4 more weeks for this info to come.
Yea I do get a bit impatient at times, but I also to get to speak to developers on IRC and have guild leaders who can jump on ICQ and have free flowing conversations with those that make the game (even at awkward hours of the day) You see being in a large guild (over 300 members) and even smaller ones, Funcom has always been supportive of guilds and the pre game community. They know its the guilds who will be occupying the BK. We ask and 90% of the time we get an answer. Its because of this relantionship over time throughout the developement of the game and the supportiveness FC shows, I don't think at all that guilds/ guild battles, sieges, or whatever, will be gimped. If it is not satisfactory upon release then I would expect FC to listen to the community and start on measures to get it better. It's not blind following either, or been spoon fed info, just because FC doesn't have a some guy visually waving his arms around relating info in a "its kids playtime reading session" with lots of "OOoos" and "Ahhh's" doesn't mean we don't get the info we don't want.
Best thing to do is sit back and wait for August to come, and for those generally interested in the game, lets hope the features they say are al there, and maybe there's more - who knows Im sure Gameplay videos in the aspect of the border kingdoms will be around then.
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Yeah, there are a lot of gameplay videos of a player fighting monsters. They're dev demos, and not actually a player playing. Though they still get the same effect across.
Just search Youtube for Age of Conan and you should find several.
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Good video but i'm woried about what i just saw. I would imagine, since this is an E3 demonstration, that the game must be running on a monster computer right, then did you noticed all that hitching, the guy run around the world and the game hitch a lot . The group run around a town and the game freeze completly for half a second, that's bad.
Second thing, it seems that all the special moves the fighter is doing are preventing him from moving, running. A good example is when the interviewer told him to get in the last monster chamber and the character seems to be stuck in place and had to wait for all the special moves to stop before being able to move forward.
For the rest i like what i saw and will certainly buy the game.
Good video but i'm woried about what i just saw. I would imagine, since this is an E3 demonstration, that the game must be running on a monster computer right, then did you noticed all that hitching, the guy run around the world and the game hitch a lot . The group run around a town and the game freeze completly for half a second, that's bad.
Second thing, it seems that all the special moves the fighter is doing are preventing him from moving, running. A good example is when the interviewer told him to get in the last monster chamber and the character seems to be stuck in place and had to wait for all the special moves to stop before being able to move forward.
For the rest i like what i saw and will certainly buy the game.
That seemed like normal rubberbanding caused by a awful connection...All game devs and press who were in E3 complained about the poopy internet connection the convention keepers had arranged...not to forget that the demo server was in Norway.
Good video but i'm woried about what i just saw. I would imagine, since this is an E3 demonstration, that the game must be running on a monster computer right, then did you noticed all that hitching, the guy run around the world and the game hitch a lot . The group run around a town and the game freeze completly for half a second, that's bad.
Second thing, it seems that all the special moves the fighter is doing are preventing him from moving, running. A good example is when the interviewer told him to get in the last monster chamber and the character seems to be stuck in place and had to wait for all the special moves to stop before being able to move forward.
For the rest i like what i saw and will certainly buy the game.
That seemed like normal rubberbanding caused by a awful connection...All game devs and press who were in E3 complained about the poopy internet connection the convention keepers had arranged...not to forget that the demo server was in Norway.
Can you show us some in-game GVG-PVP BK footage.You said they have a Dynamic combat system that wont include button bashing.Surely with 3 months to go you can find PLENTY of GVG-PVP footage.Are you telling me that the E3 footage is all they have lol.Blame it on a bad connection so show us some great footage using their own Servers,it should`nt be to hard with all these supposed people in beta?
To debunk all the nasty information: there are not many people in beta. In fact less than 1000. Family and friends, Q&A, and the technical beta invitees.
The E3 footage is NOT all they have, they released footage on a regular basis, and as one that follows, the progress of the game is visible, so are the changes they brought to it.
Fact: 3 mbit line was used at E3, and press was on the same bandwidth.
Like stated before, they intend to release the PvP footage to the public at the Leipzig games convention starting august the 23.
By this time you have proved you know little about the game, and still attack it oft, simply put that shows lack of wisdom.
To debunk all the nasty information: there are not many people in beta. In fact less than 1000. Family and friends, Q&A, and the technical beta invitees.
The E3 footage is NOT all they have, they released footage on a regular basis, and as one that follows, the progress of the game is visible, so are the changes they brought to it.
Fact: 3 mbit line was used at E3, and press was on the same bandwidth.
Like stated before, they intend to release the PvP footage to the public at the Leipzig games convention starting august the 23.
By this time you have proved you know little about the game, and still attack it oft, simply put that shows lack of wisdom.
Hmm i know as much about the game as you being a member of there Forums since late 2004.Again stop avoiding the question..SHOW ME THE VIDS OF THE THINGS YOU CLAIM.
I am simply asking for the proof,now you cant or don't have it so how can you say all these things about AOC when you have seen NOTHING backing up your claims.
I have seen plenty of VID of AOC but NONE back up what you are claiming.Show me GVG-PVP-BK footage please.We already know about PVE and AOC as you put it is meant to be a PVP game or is it a PVE with GVG-PVP thrown in at the END when you have GRINDED your self to death ON THE MOSTLY PVE part of the game.
These guys at Funcom have never lied to me, and thus I take what they say for granted. Not as much as I take BioWare's word for granted, but close.
I don't need to see VIDs. I trust them, and have my reasons to do so.
These guys at Funcom have never lied to me, and thus I take what they say for granted. Not as much as I take BioWare's word for granted, but close.
I don't need to see VIDs. I trust them, and have my reasons to do so.
LOL so now you use the reverse psychology by implying you might now stuff others dont lol.Why is it so easy to show VIDS of PVE but none WHATSOEVER of PVP-GVG-BK footage.Are you saying that there SYSTEM is so dynamic they cant show it off lol? why because someone will steal the ideas.Just admit it that you CANT find ONE single VID backing up your claims.
Again SHOW ME THE PROFF without making excuses please.You are the one ho said all this stuff so please back up your claims with Proof.
Anubisss quit trolling. First of all the official forums didn't EXIST in 2004, so thats a blatant lie. And stop yelling, it makes you look like a 2 year old man, seriously. Go back to what ever game you are playing/following because it clearly isn't AoC. You want PvP videos, check youtube. But you a troll so I know you won't. So wait for the Leipzig GC when they plan to show off siege PvP.
I'm not even going to comment on that last run-on sentence. If you followed the game as much as you claim you do, you'd know everything said in that last line is false.
This is for you
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Hmm if not 2004 then very early 2005.Go to the AOC forums and i will leave you a message there.Now like i said SHOW ME THESE PVP-GVG vids.The youtube VID show nothing of this PVP-GVG dynamic system lol.Can you show me this vid on youtube cos you obviously no where to find it.So are you saying that after all this time in development the only time they can show what they claim is at Leipzig?
I say it again there are no VID showing what you Claim.Beacuse i have VALID reasons to Doubt what the dev state it makes me a 2 year old man lol.Who is yelling? wow you must have pretty good hearing to come to the conclusion i am yelling.
The truth is NO ONE can prove anything the devs are saying and further more YOU cant either.
Now prove me to be the troll you are claiming by showing me these GREAT PVP-GVG BK vid you say are on youtube.
To debunk all the nasty information: there are not many people in beta. In fact less than 1000. Family and friends, Q&A, and the technical beta invitees.
The E3 footage is NOT all they have, they released footage on a regular basis, and as one that follows, the progress of the game is visible, so are the changes they brought to it.
Fact: 3 mbit line was used at E3, and press was on the same bandwidth.
Like stated before, they intend to release the PvP footage to the public at the Leipzig games convention starting august the 23.
By this time you have proved you know little about the game, and still attack it oft, simply put that shows lack of wisdom.
Actually all of the footage released has been nothing but PvE except for one leaked beta footage video. So he's not really spreading misinformation.
It's very true that there are no GvG or siege videos out there. Hopefully this will all drastically change at Leipzig.
One thing that was pointed out earlier that I didn't think of, but now that I go back and watch the footage is that attacking prevents you from being able to move. You can only turn while doing combat moves. This means that once you're in a combo there's no way to evade anyone until the animation is finished. I see this being very cumbersome during hectic PvP gameplay.
The other thing that I noticed while watching the E3 footage. If you watch the guy with the pole arm, and you pay attention to the attacks as they're being executed, the swings are not a direct result of a button being pressed, and only after all the buttons in the combo are pressed does he execute the multi move combo attack.
This is contradictory to what they have previously said. The devs stated that you would be linking combos together on-the-fly, but that video shows combos only being done once the entire string is completed. It's hard to explain, but if you watch the E3 vid where they're showing the pole arm combo moves you can easily see what I'm referring to.
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Faile again?
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How ignorant, and self-centered do you have to be, to claim, that which you have not seen, does not exist?! Logically, that which you have not seen might exist.
Anubisss you started this conversation with agressively claiming, AoC has no real PvP. You backed that up with nothing at all, not one single shred of evidence. I reacted, and you have been hysterical ever since, being all macho agressive, yet lacked reasoning. But that's okay, after all, you are but a troll.
The developers claimed it is there, and judging by their previous work, if they said it is there, then I believe it. It is called brand.
Oh, and Anubisss, cut out the caps lock, it actually never helps.
You see, I am confident enough in AoC, that I don't have to go over to the WAR forums and bash it, unlike you, who are probably insecure about WAR and needs to come here acting all tough and macho. Take a brake, go chase some girls, but remember, don't shout at them, like us, they don't like that too much.
Here's where your point fails bringing WAR into the conversation. They say they're showing the Elves for the first time at Leipzig in August. Now I believe they're going to. Why? Well if you go through their Newsletter archives, there's always a little blurb at the right that says "Coming next month!" and it lists what they're going to be showing in the next month, and guess what? They show it. Every single time.
If you say "Have you seen Public Quests?" I can say yes, and there are several reviews from people that have played the public quests.
If you say "Have you seen RvR Scenarios?" I can say yes, and there are several reviews from people that have played the rvr scenarios.
If you say "Have you seen PvP in AoC?" I have to say no, no I haven't seen the PvP in AoC, and no one's played it outside of their company.
They come up and say "We're pushing the release date back because we're going to be going back through the Greenskin and Dwarf starting areas." And you know what I see just below that and hear from people that have played in the new starting areas? They say that the starting areas are awesome (the people that have played them). They show videos of these starting areas and what you can do in them.
If AoC had said "Look we have bar brawls. Look here are two guys fighting in a bar brawl." Then I would say, awesome. I can't wait to do that. But they haven't shown it. They've just given us walls of text.
Same with their classes. Let me show you how AoC describes a class and how WAR describes a class, so that you can see what I mean when I refer to "seeing" something.
Here's AoC's latest class description for the Guardian
Notice how there's a page of text, but the only screenshot is a tiny thumbnail in the corner.
Here's WAR's latest class description for the Marauder.
Notice that there is concept art and a screenshot included.
Now I have no idea what the various armor progressions of a Guardian look like, but I know what some armor options are from the low levels of a Marauder to the higher levels of the Marauder.
I wouldn't have even written this wall of text except that you put your foot in your mouth when comparing the amount of information that WAR has out there to the amount of information that AoC has out there.
I don't mind anyone defending the game that they're avidly following, but please don't make fun of another game (especially when you're incredibly wrong) in order to prove a point. You just wind up looking foolish.
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Just put it this way WAR is doing a very good job at advertising while AoC is not. We all want more info just so we dont fall into vanguard trap again thats why we complain, compare , and b1tch about the games.
Precisely. My only problem is that PvP is supposed to (or at least this is the impression I've received) be at the center of AoC. If this is the case, then they've shown us everything except what's supposed to be at the center.
This makes no sense to me. If I'm making a PvP game, I'm going to show PvP, PvP, PvP, and then a little PvE. Not the other way around. Which is why a lot of people are getting skeptical about the game's development. All we've seen is PvE, PvE, some scenery, some NPCs attacking a player built City, more PvE, a 24 man raid, more PvE. I mean when will the PvE stop?
If the answer is Leipzig I really hope they stick to that. The outcome of the game though is starting to lean towards a pushed back release.
I mean in one of the reviews that is linked to from the AoC community site, the reviewer said that they still hadn't figured out how they expect people to talk to one another when combat requires both hands. That seems to be a pretty huge problem. If the combat is supposed to be organized and in formations, how are people going to communicate if they aren't in a guild that has a Vent or TS server set up?
It's things like this that they obviously haven't figured out that make me wonder about a release in only 3 months.
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Man you have the nerve to call me a kid? I am not bashing AOC and if you read my post you will see that. Because you could not prove all the things you claim this game has, i must be insecure lol.
In future before you make such Claims, have the right info or vids to back it.I cant wait to see what VIDs they throw at you at Leipzig because so far they are not that impressive.
Girls lol i like Women not Girls Mr kiddo.
See you in 3 weeks time lol,it will be very interesting to see what excuse you come up with when these so called GVG-PVP-BK vids are not quite what you expected.
Like i said,so far AOC has shown nothing but PVE footage and for a game that is meant to be PVP as the main concept it is sadly lacking.Go back to the start of the production and early forum threads and you will see AOC was put over as PVE game which will have some form of PVP.Now bring in WAR and all of a sudden AOC is a PVP game with some PVE.
Seems like a desperate attempt to keep in line with WAR.FC know if they don't advertise AOC as PVP they have no hope against WAR.
Way to highjack my thread guys .....
I am truly sorry, but I will post one more jackin' post. I'll buy you coffee sometime.
Man you have the nerve to call me a kid? I am not bashing AOC and if you read my post you will see that. Because you could not prove all the things you claim this game has, i must be insecure lol.
In future before you make such Claims, have the right info or vids to back it.I cant wait to see what VIDs they throw at you at Leipzig because so far they are not that impressive.
Girls lol i like Women not Girls Mr kiddo.
See you in 3 weeks time lol,it will be very interesting to see what excuse you come up with when these so called GVG-PVP-BK vids are not quite what you expected.
Like i said,so far AOC has shown nothing but PVE footage and for a game that is meant to be PVP as the main concept it is sadly lacking.Go back to the start of the production and early forum threads and you will see AOC was put over as PVE game which will have some form of PVP.Now bring in WAR and all of a sudden AOC is a PVP game with some PVE.
Seems like a desperate attempt to keep in line with WAR.FC know if they don't advertise AOC as PVP they have no hope against WAR.
Hey, you might like women, for all I care, but the question is, do women like you? ... or is it just girls ...
AoC was always a PvP heavy title. That doesn't mean it lacks PvE. It is both. And FYI they didn't show much of the quests and branching dialogue choices either, they just showed off combat. Age of Conan is a mix, it is there to satisfy most needs, ranging from PvE to PvP, from casual to hardcore. But of course, since you are there from the beginning, you know this, don't you?
And about the claim that PvP gained accent only after WAR was advertised as the be all end all of PvP: you claim they did this, cause otherwise they could not have stood against WAR. Well, this might all sound new to you, but here goes economics: the basics. It's all about subscriptions, that's what companies hunt. Long term it can only be gained by quality. A company takes a look at the surroundings, and tries to offer something in their product that is somewhat unique, cause the product then has a larger take at the target audience. It would be stupid to go up against another product on a realm that is already occupied (this was PvP in WAR's case), cause there would be less chance of success, putting the accent on the same thing. Furthermore the online player's large majority play PvE, so in this case it would be doubly stupid to go fight on a realm that is not only occupied, but little as well.
Unless ... unless you had very solid PvP. A very solid and somewhat unique take at PvP. Sound familiar? yeah, AoC.
And in AoC's case roughly the same could be said about it's PvE part. I completely agree with their philosophy here.
And back to your insecurity, cause that is the root of this newest theory of yours (the one where AoC slaps on PvP just to be competitive in the market to surely be dominated by WAR). This is already more than insecurity, this is paranoia already. Is the atmosphere on the WAR forums so discomforting, that you must come here and bash another game to feel ok?
Man you have the nerve to call me a kid? I am not bashing AOC and if you read my post you will see that. Because you could not prove all the things you claim this game has, i must be insecure lol.
In future before you make such Claims, have the right info or vids to back it.I cant wait to see what VIDs they throw at you at Leipzig because so far they are not that impressive.
Girls lol i like Women not Girls Mr kiddo.
See you in 3 weeks time lol,it will be very interesting to see what excuse you come up with when these so called GVG-PVP-BK vids are not quite what you expected.
Like i said,so far AOC has shown nothing but PVE footage and for a game that is meant to be PVP as the main concept it is sadly lacking.Go back to the start of the production and early forum threads and you will see AOC was put over as PVE game which will have some form of PVP.Now bring in WAR and all of a sudden AOC is a PVP game with some PVE.
Seems like a desperate attempt to keep in line with WAR.FC know if they don't advertise AOC as PVP they have no hope against WAR.
Maybe they want it to be the best it can be before they show it off? Funcom does Beta different, its focused closed beta right now. Ever read this? http://mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/1349 beta style is changing.
anubisss are you generally interested in the game? Alot of your posts here do read as negative on AoC boards. The fact is GvG/ Seiges and BK fights are all on the way, I suspect you already know this, so I wonder why you start ranting for claims to see this things now. (esp. as you say you have seen lots of AoC stuff)
It is not suprising to see fans of "other" games posting here trying to milk the lack of info about some points of the game. You see I am content in knowing these elements are being polished / fine tuned, Funcom's 4th technical beta test is scheduled soon. I have the capacity to understand this, and that its not Open Beta yet.
There is no desperate attempts to keep in line with warhammer. I know for a fact (imo) looking for information about both games there is overall more on AoC, but there is more hands on with the public playing with warhammer.
Am I worried that one company does things different to the other? no.
Do I go rant on the war boards the lack of free actual content that is playable by hands on means at these game days? no.
Why should I? I could go post things, but I don't get a kick outta doing that kind of thing.
Im not posting here for yet another comparison but let me just say because war has or is having a more visual theme to its beta doesn't neccessarily mean Funcom is doing nothing. I don't feel then either you or I or anyone on these boards can comment to contrary. I don't think that you are in a position to critize something that hasn't been shown yet, you don't have the credentials sorry. You can have your opinion and have a guess, sure. But your already of the opinion that "See you in 3 weeks time lol,it will be very interesting to see what excuse you come up with when these so called GVG-PVP-BK vids are not quite what you expected." Please don't act all high and mighty or take stabs at people because of your presumption and opinion that things are not what you and a select few expected.
I am of the opinion I would like too see more info about these things too, but I will say since the start of the year I always thought I'd see them around the time of E3 or hopefully at E3 this year because in my mind it was about right with the time left until release. I can wait 4 more weeks for this info to come.
Yea I do get a bit impatient at times, but I also to get to speak to developers on IRC and have guild leaders who can jump on ICQ and have free flowing conversations with those that make the game (even at awkward hours of the day) You see being in a large guild (over 300 members) and even smaller ones, Funcom has always been supportive of guilds and the pre game community. They know its the guilds who will be occupying the BK. We ask and 90% of the time we get an answer. Its because of this relantionship over time throughout the developement of the game and the supportiveness FC shows, I don't think at all that guilds/ guild battles, sieges, or whatever, will be gimped. If it is not satisfactory upon release then I would expect FC to listen to the community and start on measures to get it better. It's not blind following either, or been spoon fed info, just because FC doesn't have a some guy visually waving his arms around relating info in a "its kids playtime reading session" with lots of "OOoos" and "Ahhh's" doesn't mean we don't get the info we don't want.
Best thing to do is sit back and wait for August to come, and for those generally interested in the game, lets hope the features they say are al there, and maybe there's more - who knows Im sure Gameplay videos in the aspect of the border kingdoms will be around then.