why are shooter games considered the best pvp MMOS? lol
Planetside is an MMO.
And to answer your question, they are the only ones that are PLAYERVSPLAYER, not SKILL NUMBERVSSKILL NUMBERS.
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Planetside is one of the worst PVP games I have ever played. If I take the time to sneak up behind someone, and shoot/stab them in the head, it should do more damage than if I shoot them in the foot, but it doesn't. It only takes a little bit of skill(1 week and you can master it).
WoW's pvp is fun, but there's no reward for it.
Never played DAoC, or Lineage(1/2) and played UO for like 10 mins, so I can't comment on those. I played SWG for like 10 minutes, when it first came out, and hated it. Battle fatigue can suck my ass, I shouldn't be penalized for grinding.
Eve is...so mind numbingly boring I just don't even know where to start.
Shadowbane had amazing PvP, minus the whole intense lag thing. Looting, FFA after lvl 20 or so(which took like 2 days of playing).
CoH/CoV is too slow paced for me. I couldn't get through the PvE part, I lost interest.
I never liked Guild Wars enough to level up to 20.
Asheron's Call in my opinion is the best PvP game to date. You start off, cold, alone, and poor, then some schmuck comes and kills you. Two hours later, you're coming into town, to sell your loot, and there's the same guy, chasing you back into the newbie dungeon. Two days later, you've out leveled him, killed him so many times he has max VP(vitae points, death penalty in the game, you could lose up to 40% of your abilities), taken all of his gear and you're the city hero, the newbies love you. Then you kill the newbies. That game was so amazing, it took skill on the keyboard to do anything. You couldn't tank war spells, you had to break off and dodge them. Mages HAD to actively dodge archers. When I was level 7 I killed level 30's and 40's every once in a while( maybe they lagged out, maybe I used the tavern bug, who cares =P) When my buddy was level 70, he killed Khao, the highest level person at the time(estimated level 160). If it came down to it, you could even jump on a building to save yourself.
I guess what I'm saying is, PvP in Asheron's Call had meaning. You had to claim your territory, and strike sheer mortal terror into your enemies.
all you planet side lovers should learn how to read. The title is best pvp in an mmorpg planet side is not an mmorpg it is in fact an mmofps 1 of the first of its kind and done really well but it is not an mmorpg.
You guys can hate all you want on world of war craft but it does not change the fact that with the implementation of arena it has the best fast paced competitive pvp and its never ending you can continue to have great match ups until your team wants to stop. You also don't need any raiding gear anymore to be good in pvp since they added resilience. You get pvp gear to better yourself in pvp from pvp alone not pve blizz has done a good job of trying not to merge the 2 like it was pre-BC. So you should stop jumping on the lets hate wow bandwagon and actually look at how the arena works and how competitive the pvp is when your matches are auto found using the European chess ladder system same as in war craft 3. Find me 1 other game that offers you so much co-op pvp so easily? Where you don't eve have to think your just always matched up with teams around your rating. Where you are heavily rewarded for being successful with items / titles / special mounts. A game that has smoother / fluent combat controls. Knock the game all you want but the fact remains world of war craft is the most polished smooth feeling mmo you will ever find on the market ATM and with the introduction of the arena system it also has the most competitive pvp deal with it.
SWG before the GCW downgrade in january 2005. TEF, jedi/bh wars, base destruction. PVP skill mixed with player generated content and gear. Nothing in the genre compares to it even with all of it's inherent imbalances. EVE comes close, but it's status as a niche draw prevents it from holding the ground.
WoW, DAoC, and GW are all great fun, but arena combat doesn't have the edge of ffa pvp. Even the pvp and rppvp servers in WoW seem a litte to 'kid gloves' for my cold black griefers heart.
Hehe, 2 days for level 20 in Shadowbane? More like 2 days for 75 :P I LOVE ASHERON'S CALL DARKTIDE! Even with Godmoding in the game, it made the game that much better. For people who don't know what Godmode is, it's a much better version of the crappy "slide casting" that you people do these days hahaha. I can actually still Godmode heal and beneficial cast, so that's all good. You couldn't literally take over a town aside from claiming it and defending it and psychologically defeating your opponents into thinking you took a town, but it was AWESOME. Everything in that game was viable... Melee, ranged weapons, and caster. What a very nicely balanced game if you ask me once hollows came out for sure, but hollows weren't even needed
Anyways, yeah I started playing UO as my first MMO and I will always love and cherish that game, but as of right now, Shadowbane is too popular with the coordinated guilds and Chinese number masses. Too many people to continually struggle against and too many assets to destroy. If Shadowbane had been made back then with what they have now, it would be insane to see where games are today. But that's life right? Hahaha. I liked seeing the first or second person who replied saying they've only played WoW and GW PvP because that's just truth.
It's sad to me to see the WoW generation talking about PvP sometimes. Know what happened when I hit raiding gear and was rolling with guys who were 2400-2600 in Arena? I fell asleep in a fight because it was so boring, not from deprivation hahaha. Maybe it was the heat, but it's just crazy. Shadowbane is a really hard game to get into on your own and if you don't have the mentality of - I may go outside of this town and die, defend my life, or slaughter some people - then you probably can't hang in the game past the noob island. But if you can, it's an amazing game that is mostly based on skill until the Chinese come in, then you need to be within 75% of their numbers and then out skill them like we did last night! w00t! Their 5 full groups were nothin! AND we destroyed their city. How many people are playing games where you can destroy someone's actual assets? Maybe some EVE players will speak up, but that's about it hehe.
Mounts/Titles really aren't much of a reward. Everyone has a mount, and only Carebears care about titles 0.o.
As for the items, yeah, they're powerful, I'll admit that.
I want more for my pvp though. I need a reason to fight, I.E. not because I have something to gain, but because I have something to lose.
Strategy in that game compared to say....EVE or AC is just non existent.
I also like a challenge when I PvP, I don't want to run around with a group all the time killing other groups. In Asheron's Call, I could take on a group of 3/4 people if I got lucky. My 2 friends killed a guild of 12 people one time. All the levels were equal, and so was the gear.
WoW is a great game, it's just a little too casual for me.
Dark age of camelot has some good pvp invasions in frontiers and the lower scale attacks against bg keeps. EvE had good pvp, but lots and lots of downtime which was pretty dull, especially if you are on gate-camp duty or space territory patrol duty heh.. Zzzz
SWG has some fun pvp as far as the space game goes, all twitch based where player skill and knowhow make a big difference (all you space players in swg who don't pvp aren't even flying in the same league heh) - but mostly only happens when scheduled, on the server I am on (which is one of the most populated.. so meh - maybe if the pilots got some skill and tried to pvp instead of fighting against npc's who dont know how to fly a ship, there'd be more pvp up there)
Originally posted by Danhilderman without a doubt, AC1 Darktide.
No competition really. FFA, body loot, projectile spells (you can actually dodge spells and arrows...gasp!). Not to sound elitist, but it's almost humorous to see people vouching for these other games *cough* daoc *cough*. Besides UO, there really is no comparison. Anyone who has played all these pvp mmo's will tell you the same exact thing. Level based games just cant have good pvp. In AC, a skilled lvl 50 player can own a decent lvl 126+.
and OP, how can you not have AC DT listed?!?!!! Everyone in the mmo community knows Darktide is infamous for its FFA politics.
Wow...you delude yourself greatly. PVP is not about logging on and immediately kicking arse..all pvp means is the ability to kill other players. That being said..UO was no different than anything else out there with the exception of full loot and its really, really old.
In Uo it came down to the same thing as every other game..he who nukes best nukes last.
If you think mages were the end all be all in UO, you are sadly mistaken. Aside from the "plug" running around on SP (Siege Perilous for you non-old schoolers) when the shard first became live with his tamer mage with speed hacked e-bolts, mages are the least of concerns, especially now-a-days. Even with pre-casting, a caster is hard pressed to not get destroyed in two-three hits (2-4 seconds in UO time) hits by any large weapon, especially after Trammel and the inclusion of weapon styles.
But yes, masses of casters were strong but only if coordinated. AC was good, UO was good, Shadowbane is and was good... It's all good. DAoC had a somewhat revolutionary idea and was a great game every 15 minutes at end game RvR. Mordred/Andred was cool as well by being able to, like in AC, control towns by beating people out of them. No full loot, but you didn't really need end game equipment to win in that game with open field variables on the FFA servers. Regular servers are a different beast though.
I give WoW its props and I will always love Blizzard but I can never fathom why people pay $15 a month for WoW for PVP. I mean, I can do Arena and Battlegrounds in BF2142 / Lost Planet / Guild Wars for like free if you dont include costs of the game
i had some fun here and there in WoW in the open world PVP but then i was like bleh whats the point of world PVP when i cant change a damn thing. I keep killin' and they jsut keep rezzen'.
I want death penalties. I'd vote for any game that has a death penalty seriously. I loved the hell outta Starport for being so easy to jump into and kick ass too bad its community is so small most dont know it exists. so basically I just like voted randomly between EVE, UO, shadowbane, AC1 Darktide for at least trying to give us something real to fight over
I think I saw CoH/CoV on the list. that one was a weird animal. I stuck with CoX because it had the FFA zones and even for a bit it had death penalty on death lol it was a funny bug.
It had Arenas but this is the thing- you could team with anyone in the Arena. it was a bug ridden feature that sometimes crashed
They also had base raids given us pvpers something to fight over
alas CoX is one of the most imbalanced realm vs realm games ever. and many PVP features were left broken.
I thought it had so much potential cause no reliance on gear. it was all about you no raids really in that game. I'd probably go back if they put an FFA zone for max lvl pvpers instead of the lvl 40. it will always have sucky balance but they made movement so important in PVP ppl zip around at the speed of light. was a fresh breath of fresh air
RIP City of Heroes you rocked my shorts for a few months. not my best pvp but one of my best PVP fun in a current 'mainstream' game. was nothing like playing a gimped EM/ELA Brute and then somehow get your rage to 100%. Then start one shotting everyone around you I went on mass 1 vs 6 killing sprees no lie lol it was hella funny.
all you planet side lovers should learn how to read. The title is best pvp in an mmorpg planet side is not an mmorpg it is in fact an mmofps 1 of the first of its kind and done really well but it is not an mmorpg. You guys can hate all you want on world of war craft but it does not change the fact that with the implementation of arena it has the best fast paced competitive pvp and its never ending you can continue to have great match ups until your team wants to stop. You also don't need any raiding gear anymore to be good in pvp since they added resilience. You get pvp gear to better yourself in pvp from pvp alone not pve blizz has done a good job of trying not to merge the 2 like it was pre-BC. So you should stop jumping on the lets hate wow bandwagon and actually look at how the arena works and how competitive the pvp is when your matches are auto found using the European chess ladder system same as in war craft 3. Find me 1 other game that offers you so much co-op pvp so easily? Where you don't eve have to think your just always matched up with teams around your rating. Where you are heavily rewarded for being successful with items / titles / special mounts. A game that has smoother / fluent combat controls. Knock the game all you want but the fact remains world of war craft is the most polished smooth feeling mmo you will ever find on the market ATM and with the introduction of the arena system it also has the most competitive pvp deal with it.
Oh, the arena system sounds so exciting - kinda like...hmm...guild wars perhaps?
Oh look, no meaningful death penalty = how exciting!
Repetitive arenas kinda like a FPS ? = ohhhhh goodie!
Sorry, but if I wanted to play a 'laddered auto matching arena styled game' then I would be playing an FPS, and saving myself $'s while I'm at it.
I'm glad you enjoyed WOW, but just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean they are wrong. Infact, IMO WOW PVP is one of the worst PVP setups I have EVER experienced.
I PvP a little in CoV, where I don't PvP in any other MMO.
Thereby, for me, as a PvE player, CoV has the best PvP; not EQ. See, in EQ the PvP is absent from the game, it is dead. In CoV, it is avoidable, but I can, try it and mess around a little for the fun of it, if I want to.
All the peoples saying other games, I dunno...in CoV, I do PvP. In DAoC for example, I don't play the game cause it is lame. I don't see any difference in CoV and DAoC PvP, both are imbalanced and 1 side is pwning the other in 95% of the fights. But in CoV, there are no PvE consequences to this...while in DAoC, the PvE consequences are heavy enough for me to avoid the game completely, totally, and without considering it at any later point.
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Eve of course :-) Pvp like in no other game, honestly the only game to make heart race and my palms sweat when I get in a good fight.
haha thank you
why does it make your heart race? because there is a risk like no other in eve, you get shot down and you lose millions of dollars, perhaps even billions if your an experienced player! Unlike games like world of warcraft where you simply lose a bit of experience time.
The risks make eve so much more exciting, and it keeps experienced players where experienced players should be, and new players where new players should be.
edit: lol i reread my post and it sounds like im trying to sell the game... whatever... just trying to get the point across that its pvp is unique
all you planet side lovers should learn how to read. The title is best pvp in an mmorpg planet side is not an mmorpg it is in fact an mmofps 1 of the first of its kind and done really well but it is not an mmorpg.
Guess what? The OP put in the Poll. And technically, Planetside is more of an RPG than any other MMO out, as you really do have to accept the Role, and Play accordingly. Instead of having a class, and a Role forced upon you. In PS, there is more Role playing than most other RPG's. Everything from your background, to your character is Role-played, not granted by a skill description or class restrictions. Its more in the vain of triditional roleplayeing games than anything elese. Top that off with the requirements of real skill, not dice rolls and Granted to you numbers. It is the best RPG, and PvP game there is. Problem is, to many people here are to young to know what RPG realy stands for, and think its means EQ, WoW, or a system of combat.
Thanks.
"Planetside is one of the worst PVP games I have ever played. If I take the time to sneak up behind someone, and shoot/stab them in the head, it should do more damage than if I shoot them in the foot, but it doesn't. It only takes a little bit of skill(1 week and you can master it). "
Planetside has no Head shots, sorry, but its combat takes more than simply just getting the jump on someone, or hiding with your sniper rifle (Sniping also happens to be one of the most diffuicult, and efective skills to master in PS, its more challanging than any One shot game); you must be a better shot, mover, and player than your open to become victorious.
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DAOC is my clear top choice. Nothing has come close in terms of organized pvp.
Now my question as a long time DAOC player is whether or not Warhammer will be as good. The graphics will certainly be better, and it will most likely be alot more attractive to casual players(which is both a plus and minus), but I have my doubts about whether the core gameplay of Warhammer will match DAOC. DAOC never had instanced battles as part of sieges, and that made it very dynamic and exciting at times. I just think for long time DAOC players, Warhammer is going to have alot to prove. ALthough if WAR manages 1 million+ subs out of the gate, and ex-DAOC players are the only ones disappointed, I doubt it would spoil Mythic's mood any.
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planetside wins hands down your so wrong.
www.planetside.com best pvp game ever
your right we are so stupid and dumb and wrong.
ww2online and eve
best mmofps = planetside
best mmorpg = DAoC
easy question for me......now pray for WAR
To date, the best I've played is WWII online, but that will soon probably be replaced by WoW.
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And to answer your question, they are the only ones that are PLAYER VS PLAYER, not SKILL NUMBER VS SKILL NUMBERS.
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Planetside is one of the worst PVP games I have ever played. If I take the time to sneak up behind someone, and shoot/stab them in the head, it should do more damage than if I shoot them in the foot, but it doesn't. It only takes a little bit of skill(1 week and you can master it).
WoW's pvp is fun, but there's no reward for it.
Never played DAoC, or Lineage(1/2) and played UO for like 10 mins, so I can't comment on those. I played SWG for like 10 minutes, when it first came out, and hated it. Battle fatigue can suck my ass, I shouldn't be penalized for grinding.
Eve is...so mind numbingly boring I just don't even know where to start.
Shadowbane had amazing PvP, minus the whole intense lag thing. Looting, FFA after lvl 20 or so(which took like 2 days of playing).
CoH/CoV is too slow paced for me. I couldn't get through the PvE part, I lost interest.
I never liked Guild Wars enough to level up to 20.
Asheron's Call in my opinion is the best PvP game to date. You start off, cold, alone, and poor, then some schmuck comes and kills you. Two hours later, you're coming into town, to sell your loot, and there's the same guy, chasing you back into the newbie dungeon. Two days later, you've out leveled him, killed him so many times he has max VP(vitae points, death penalty in the game, you could lose up to 40% of your abilities), taken all of his gear and you're the city hero, the newbies love you. Then you kill the newbies. That game was so amazing, it took skill on the keyboard to do anything. You couldn't tank war spells, you had to break off and dodge them. Mages HAD to actively dodge archers. When I was level 7 I killed level 30's and 40's every once in a while( maybe they lagged out, maybe I used the tavern bug, who cares =P) When my buddy was level 70, he killed Khao, the highest level person at the time(estimated level 160). If it came down to it, you could even jump on a building to save yourself.
I guess what I'm saying is, PvP in Asheron's Call had meaning. You had to claim your territory, and strike sheer mortal terror into your enemies.
all you planet side lovers should learn how to read. The title is best pvp in an mmorpg planet side is not an mmorpg it is in fact an mmofps 1 of the first of its kind and done really well but it is not an mmorpg.
You guys can hate all you want on world of war craft but it does not change the fact that with the implementation of arena it has the best fast paced competitive pvp and its never ending you can continue to have great match ups until your team wants to stop. You also don't need any raiding gear anymore to be good in pvp since they added resilience. You get pvp gear to better yourself in pvp from pvp alone not pve blizz has done a good job of trying not to merge the 2 like it was pre-BC. So you should stop jumping on the lets hate wow bandwagon and actually look at how the arena works and how competitive the pvp is when your matches are auto found using the European chess ladder system same as in war craft 3. Find me 1 other game that offers you so much co-op pvp so easily? Where you don't eve have to think your just always matched up with teams around your rating. Where you are heavily rewarded for being successful with items / titles / special mounts. A game that has smoother / fluent combat controls. Knock the game all you want but the fact remains world of war craft is the most polished smooth feeling mmo you will ever find on the market ATM and with the introduction of the arena system it also has the most competitive pvp deal with it.
SWG before the GCW downgrade in january 2005. TEF, jedi/bh wars, base destruction. PVP skill mixed with player generated content and gear. Nothing in the genre compares to it even with all of it's inherent imbalances. EVE comes close, but it's status as a niche draw prevents it from holding the ground.
WoW, DAoC, and GW are all great fun, but arena combat doesn't have the edge of ffa pvp. Even the pvp and rppvp servers in WoW seem a litte to 'kid gloves' for my cold black griefers heart.
Hehe, 2 days for level 20 in Shadowbane? More like 2 days for 75 :P I LOVE ASHERON'S CALL DARKTIDE! Even with Godmoding in the game, it made the game that much better. For people who don't know what Godmode is, it's a much better version of the crappy "slide casting" that you people do these days hahaha. I can actually still Godmode heal and beneficial cast, so that's all good. You couldn't literally take over a town aside from claiming it and defending it and psychologically defeating your opponents into thinking you took a town, but it was AWESOME. Everything in that game was viable... Melee, ranged weapons, and caster. What a very nicely balanced game if you ask me once hollows came out for sure, but hollows weren't even needed
Anyways, yeah I started playing UO as my first MMO and I will always love and cherish that game, but as of right now, Shadowbane is too popular with the coordinated guilds and Chinese number masses. Too many people to continually struggle against and too many assets to destroy. If Shadowbane had been made back then with what they have now, it would be insane to see where games are today. But that's life right? Hahaha. I liked seeing the first or second person who replied saying they've only played WoW and GW PvP because that's just truth.
It's sad to me to see the WoW generation talking about PvP sometimes. Know what happened when I hit raiding gear and was rolling with guys who were 2400-2600 in Arena? I fell asleep in a fight because it was so boring, not from deprivation hahaha. Maybe it was the heat, but it's just crazy. Shadowbane is a really hard game to get into on your own and if you don't have the mentality of - I may go outside of this town and die, defend my life, or slaughter some people - then you probably can't hang in the game past the noob island. But if you can, it's an amazing game that is mostly based on skill until the Chinese come in, then you need to be within 75% of their numbers and then out skill them like we did last night! w00t! Their 5 full groups were nothin! AND we destroyed their city. How many people are playing games where you can destroy someone's actual assets? Maybe some EVE players will speak up, but that's about it hehe.
Mounts/Titles really aren't much of a reward. Everyone has a mount, and only Carebears care about titles 0.o.
As for the items, yeah, they're powerful, I'll admit that.
I want more for my pvp though. I need a reason to fight, I.E. not because I have something to gain, but because I have something to lose.
Strategy in that game compared to say....EVE or AC is just non existent.
I also like a challenge when I PvP, I don't want to run around with a group all the time killing other groups. In Asheron's Call, I could take on a group of 3/4 people if I got lucky. My 2 friends killed a guild of 12 people one time. All the levels were equal, and so was the gear.
WoW is a great game, it's just a little too casual for me.
Dark age of camelot has some good pvp invasions in frontiers and the lower scale attacks against bg keeps. EvE had good pvp, but lots and lots of downtime which was pretty dull, especially if you are on gate-camp duty or space territory patrol duty heh.. Zzzz
SWG has some fun pvp as far as the space game goes, all twitch based where player skill and knowhow make a big difference (all you space players in swg who don't pvp aren't even flying in the same league heh) - but mostly only happens when scheduled, on the server I am on (which is one of the most populated.. so meh - maybe if the pilots got some skill and tried to pvp instead of fighting against npc's who dont know how to fly a ship, there'd be more pvp up there)
Wow...you delude yourself greatly. PVP is not about logging on and immediately kicking arse..all pvp means is the ability to kill other players. That being said..UO was no different than anything else out there with the exception of full loot and its really, really old.
In Uo it came down to the same thing as every other game..he who nukes best nukes last.
That is all.
D.
If you think mages were the end all be all in UO, you are sadly mistaken. Aside from the "plug" running around on SP (Siege Perilous for you non-old schoolers) when the shard first became live with his tamer mage with speed hacked e-bolts, mages are the least of concerns, especially now-a-days. Even with pre-casting, a caster is hard pressed to not get destroyed in two-three hits (2-4 seconds in UO time) hits by any large weapon, especially after Trammel and the inclusion of weapon styles.
But yes, masses of casters were strong but only if coordinated. AC was good, UO was good, Shadowbane is and was good... It's all good. DAoC had a somewhat revolutionary idea and was a great game every 15 minutes at end game RvR. Mordred/Andred was cool as well by being able to, like in AC, control towns by beating people out of them. No full loot, but you didn't really need end game equipment to win in that game with open field variables on the FFA servers. Regular servers are a different beast though.
I give WoW its props and I will always love Blizzard but I can never fathom why people pay $15 a month for WoW for PVP. I mean, I can do Arena and Battlegrounds in BF2142 / Lost Planet / Guild Wars for like free if you dont include costs of the game
i had some fun here and there in WoW in the open world PVP but then i was like bleh whats the point of world PVP when i cant change a damn thing. I keep killin' and they jsut keep rezzen'.
I want death penalties. I'd vote for any game that has a death penalty seriously. I loved the hell outta Starport for being so easy to jump into and kick ass too bad its community is so small most dont know it exists. so basically I just like voted randomly between EVE, UO, shadowbane, AC1 Darktide for at least trying to give us something real to fight over
I think I saw CoH/CoV on the list. that one was a weird animal. I stuck with CoX because it had the FFA zones and even for a bit it had death penalty on death lol it was a funny bug.
It had Arenas but this is the thing- you could team with anyone in the Arena. it was a bug ridden feature that sometimes crashed
They also had base raids given us pvpers something to fight over
alas CoX is one of the most imbalanced realm vs realm games ever. and many PVP features were left broken.
I thought it had so much potential cause no reliance on gear. it was all about you no raids really in that game. I'd probably go back if they put an FFA zone for max lvl pvpers instead of the lvl 40. it will always have sucky balance but they made movement so important in PVP ppl zip around at the speed of light. was a fresh breath of fresh air
RIP City of Heroes you rocked my shorts for a few months. not my best pvp but one of my best PVP fun in a current 'mainstream' game. was nothing like playing a gimped EM/ELA Brute and then somehow get your rage to 100%. Then start one shotting everyone around you I went on mass 1 vs 6 killing sprees no lie lol it was hella funny.
Oh, the arena system sounds so exciting - kinda like...hmm...guild wars perhaps?
Oh look, no meaningful death penalty = how exciting!
Repetitive arenas kinda like a FPS ? = ohhhhh goodie!
Sorry, but if I wanted to play a 'laddered auto matching arena styled game' then I would be playing an FPS, and saving myself $'s while I'm at it.
I'm glad you enjoyed WOW, but just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean they are wrong. Infact, IMO WOW PVP is one of the worst PVP setups I have EVER experienced.
Deal with it.
I PvP a little in CoV, where I don't PvP in any other MMO.
Thereby, for me, as a PvE player, CoV has the best PvP; not EQ. See, in EQ the PvP is absent from the game, it is dead. In CoV, it is avoidable, but I can, try it and mess around a little for the fun of it, if I want to.
All the peoples saying other games, I dunno...in CoV, I do PvP. In DAoC for example, I don't play the game cause it is lame. I don't see any difference in CoV and DAoC PvP, both are imbalanced and 1 side is pwning the other in 95% of the fights. But in CoV, there are no PvE consequences to this...while in DAoC, the PvE consequences are heavy enough for me to avoid the game completely, totally, and without considering it at any later point.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
the question was what are the best mmoRPG's, not the best FPS. read the question next time?
and to everyone else who has been saying planetside, SAME THING. Planetside is an FPS, not RPG.
Eve of course :-)
Pvp like in no other game, honestly the only game to make heart race and my palms sweat when I get in a good fight.
Dark Age of Camelot
that is all that need to be said GW is god as well
WOW is not even close
but DAoC wins
haha thank you
why does it make your heart race? because there is a risk like no other in eve, you get shot down and you lose millions of dollars, perhaps even billions if your an experienced player! Unlike games like world of warcraft where you simply lose a bit of experience time.
The risks make eve so much more exciting, and it keeps experienced players where experienced players should be, and new players where new players should be.
edit: lol i reread my post and it sounds like im trying to sell the game... whatever... just trying to get the point across that its pvp is unique
Guess what? The OP put in the Poll. And technically, Planetside is more of an RPG than any other MMO out, as you really do have to accept the Role, and Play accordingly. Instead of having a class, and a Role forced upon you. In PS, there is more Role playing than most other RPG's. Everything from your background, to your character is Role-played, not granted by a skill description or class restrictions. Its more in the vain of triditional roleplayeing games than anything elese. Top that off with the requirements of real skill, not dice rolls and Granted to you numbers. It is the best RPG, and PvP game there is. Problem is, to many people here are to young to know what RPG realy stands for, and think its means EQ, WoW, or a system of combat.
Thanks.
"Planetside is one of the worst PVP games I have ever played. If I take the time to sneak up behind someone, and shoot/stab them in the head, it should do more damage than if I shoot them in the foot, but it doesn't. It only takes a little bit of skill(1 week and you can master it). "
Planetside has no Head shots, sorry, but its combat takes more than simply just getting the jump on someone, or hiding with your sniper rifle (Sniping also happens to be one of the most diffuicult, and efective skills to master in PS, its more challanging than any One shot game); you must be a better shot, mover, and player than your open to become victorious.
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DAOC is my clear top choice. Nothing has come close in terms of organized pvp.
Now my question as a long time DAOC player is whether or not Warhammer will be as good. The graphics will certainly be better, and it will most likely be alot more attractive to casual players(which is both a plus and minus), but I have my doubts about whether the core gameplay of Warhammer will match DAOC. DAOC never had instanced battles as part of sieges, and that made it very dynamic and exciting at times. I just think for long time DAOC players, Warhammer is going to have alot to prove. ALthough if WAR manages 1 million+ subs out of the gate, and ex-DAOC players are the only ones disappointed, I doubt it would spoil Mythic's mood any.
AC1 was without a doubt the most fun and stratagy for PvP. Darktide was strait up scary!